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Posted: 1/22/2017 9:58:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2017 10:26:55 AM EDT
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I always thought herpes was like the sexual boogeyman until my girlfriend's coworker got it and it fucked her up.
She was dating a guy, he had it, they decided to bone anyway and it really messed her up. Dumbass. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 11:15:34 AM EDT
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Before about 1965, everybody mouth-pipetted. Labs started to switch over from mouth-pipetting to bulbs and later, to pumps precisely because of idiots like me swallowing stuff. I wouldn't have swallowed the brain sample homogenate, though, if I were paying attention. The brain sample was from a guy that died of herpes encephalitis. But I used to be good at mouth-pipetting. It's faster and you have much more control, but I did learn to use those pumps (and motorized pumps). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had to look up "mouth pipetting". WTF 
Who the hell ever thought that was a good idea in any way, for any reason? Before about 1965, everybody mouth-pipetted. Labs started to switch over from mouth-pipetting to bulbs and later, to pumps precisely because of idiots like me swallowing stuff. I wouldn't have swallowed the brain sample homogenate, though, if I were paying attention. The brain sample was from a guy that died of herpes encephalitis. But I used to be good at mouth-pipetting. It's faster and you have much more control, but I did learn to use those pumps (and motorized pumps). I had a patient last year who had it. Came into the hospital for a different reason and was put on high dose steroids. Talking on the phone apparently normally to his family, then two hours later starts having seizures and spiking fevers. I did a spinal tap and > 200 white blood cells, all lymphocytes. Start him on anti-virals and anti-seizure drugs. Herpes PCR on the spinal fluid comes back negative. 
Despite everything we threw at him, he never completely stopped having seizures. Eight days after admission, and five days after he started with seizures, he died. I asked the family for an autopsy and we sent the brain out. Three months later, results came back HSV-2. Apparently the spinal fluid HSV PCR is only 94% sensitive so he was a false negative. We had still continued anti-virals anyway because we knew clinically nothing behaves like this except herpes. This was during the winter and he rarely left the house so we didn't think it was EEE or some other virus. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:28:21 PM EDT
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Doctors don't even really distinguish between HSV-1 and 2 anymore as both can cause sores both downstairs and upstairs. HSV-1 is easily transmitted to genitals. The key difference between the two is that most people have already been exposed and have antibodies to HSV-1 by the time they become sexually active, so genital infections with that virus tend to be much milder and much less likely to recur than those with HSV-2. HSV-2 is the virus which causes the infections that require you to take Valtrex before you can walk on the beach again. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:32:12 PM EDT
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Chicken Pox is a form of herpes. Also HPV. HPV belongs to a different virus family, Papillomaviridae. But there is just as much misunderstanding about HPV as there is about Herpes viruses. There are over 140 known strains of HPV; only 40 or so cause genital infections, and only a few of those are associated with genital warts or cancer. As with herpes viruses, virtually everyone on earth has been infected with at least one strain of HPV. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:33:31 PM EDT
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 Why are you posting a picture of my cat?Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why are you posting a picture of my cat?Had it in my "cool dog pics" folder right next to the one I meant to post, my bad: 
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:33:53 PM EDT
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I have shingles. It sucks. It sucks worse when there's a hot chick at the pharmacy and I need to get a refill on my valtrex/valcyclovir.
I refer to it now as my ChickenHerpeShinglePox. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:35:21 PM EDT
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Had it in my "cool dog pics" folder right next to the one I meant to post, my bad: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d2/cc/6d/d2cc6d7513117d1403e96115a98fa218.jpg Your pussy has herpes? Sorry, I just couldn't resist. 
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:36:51 PM EDT
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I have shingles. It sucks. It sucks worse when there's a hot chick at the pharmacy and I need to get a refill on my valtrex/valcyclovir.
I refer to it now as my ChickenHerpeShinglePox. Just for giggles, if you take Viagra or Cialis ask for a refill of that prescription the same time you get your Valtrex. 
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:37:28 PM EDT
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Just for giggles, if you take Viagra or Cialis ask for a refill of that prescription the same time you get your Valtrex.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:38:27 PM EDT
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What a morbid thing to wonder. Besides you gotta get laid to get an STD. So probably not too many are at risk here. Not for the mouth herpes (cold sores) |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:46:28 PM EDT
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Up to 80% of the population have been exposed to HSV-1 sometime in their life, and around 1/3 experience the symptoms of it.
And it is not contracted through sexual contact in many instances. You can get it by sharing utensils like cups and forks, and basic skin to skin contact. HSV-1 |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:48:27 PM EDT
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HPV belongs to a different virus family, Papillomaviridae. But there is just as much misunderstanding about HPV as there is about Herpes viruses. There are over 140 known strains of HPV; only 40 or so cause genital infections, and only a few of those are associated with genital warts or cancer. As with herpes viruses, virtually everyone on earth has been infected with at least one strain of HPV. 80% FOR HPV-1 .. when you start throwing in the other strains it is approaching 90% of the population with one strain or another. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:49:36 PM EDT
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This dog has the hair piece.
Poor doggie. 
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:50:50 PM EDT
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Technically speaking we all do in some form.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:53:34 PM EDT
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80% FOR HPV-1 .. when you start throwing in the other strains it is approaching 90% of the population with one strain or another. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HPV belongs to a different virus family, Papillomaviridae. But there is just as much misunderstanding about HPV as there is about Herpes viruses. There are over 140 known strains of HPV; only 40 or so cause genital infections, and only a few of those are associated with genital warts or cancer. As with herpes viruses, virtually everyone on earth has been infected with at least one strain of HPV. 80% FOR HPV-1 .. when you start throwing in the other strains it is approaching 90% of the population with one strain or another. Yep. If you've had warts, then you've had HPV. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:54:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:54:28 PM EDT
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I had a patient last year who had it. Came into the hospital for a different reason and was put on high dose steroids. Talking on the phone apparently normally to his family, then two hours later starts having seizures and spiking fevers. I did a spinal tap and > 200 white blood cells, all lymphocytes. Start him on anti-virals and anti-seizure drugs. Herpes PCR on the spinal fluid comes back negative.
Despite everything we threw at him, he never completely stopped having seizures. Eight days after admission, and five days after he started with seizures, he died. I asked the family for an autopsy and we sent the brain out. Three months later, results came back HSV-2. Apparently the spinal fluid HSV PCR is only 94% sensitive so he was a false negative. We had still continued anti-virals anyway because we knew clinically nothing behaves like this except herpes. This was during the winter and he rarely left the house so we didn't think it was EEE or some other virus. When I dealt with those viruses, there was no such thing as PCR. We cultured samples using cell lines (immortal and diploid; WI-38, HeLa, FTE ouch... this hurts my brain remembering), and usually had results within weeks. We did drug studies (cytosine arabinoside was our main interest... I guess much better drugs have been developed since then). |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:54:38 PM EDT
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Looks like near 64% of people who voted don't know what herpes is.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 1:54:51 PM EDT
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I had a patient last year who had it. Came into the hospital for a different reason and was put on high dose steroids. Talking on the phone apparently normally to his family, then two hours later starts having seizures and spiking fevers. I did a spinal tap and > 200 white blood cells, all lymphocytes. Start him on anti-virals and anti-seizure drugs. Herpes PCR on the spinal fluid comes back negative.
Despite everything we threw at him, he never completely stopped having seizures. Eight days after admission, and five days after he started with seizures, he died. I asked the family for an autopsy and we sent the brain out. Three months later, results came back HSV-2. Apparently the spinal fluid HSV PCR is only 94% sensitive so he was a false negative. We had still continued anti-virals anyway because we knew clinically nothing behaves like this except herpes. This was during the winter and he rarely left the house so we didn't think it was EEE or some other virus. Dr G did an episode where she did an autopsy on a woman who died after a kiss. She had lesions suggestive of AIDS/kaposi sarcoma. She actually found this woman died from HSV1. She even had lesions on her internal organs. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:03:07 PM EDT
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lol at those trying to justify having the herp. Stay away from skanks.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:07:34 PM EDT
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lol at those trying to justify having the herp. Stay away from skanks. lol at those who think all herpes viruses are sexually transmitted. 
But staying away from skanks is a good idea, and not just for preventing genital herpes. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 2:07:59 PM EDT
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lol at those trying to justify having the herp. Stay away from skanks. You probably have HSV-1. It is not only contracted through skanks. There's a higher chance you have one of the 8 other forms of herpes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epstein%E2%80%93Barr_virus (mono) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicella_zoster_virus (chicken pox) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpesviridae Even if you haven't had symptoms of it, that doesn't mean you don't have it. Many times you can have the viruses without symptoms. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:40:19 PM EDT
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Estimates for people with Herpes in the US range from 50% to 80%. So if you are ready this right now you probably have Herpes.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:41:25 PM EDT
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I had chickenpox. That's it.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:44:55 PM EDT
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I had chickenpox. That's it.  You have herpes!
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:44:56 PM EDT
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The sad thing about this thread is that it'll probably be back next month. And the month after that...
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:47:46 PM EDT
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The sad thing about this thread is that it'll probably be back next month. And the month after that... But you won't notice because it is asymptomatic. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:48:44 PM EDT
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lol at those trying to justify having the herp. Stay away from skanks. ...and shopping carts...and elevator buttons...and door knobs. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:49:58 PM EDT
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When I dealt with those viruses, there was no such thing as PCR. We cultured samples using cell lines (immortal and diploid; WI-38, HeLa, FTE ouch... this hurts my brain remembering), and usually had results within weeks. We did drug studies (cytosine arabinoside was our main interest... I guess much better drugs have been developed since then). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had a patient last year who had it. Came into the hospital for a different reason and was put on high dose steroids. Talking on the phone apparently normally to his family, then two hours later starts having seizures and spiking fevers. I did a spinal tap and > 200 white blood cells, all lymphocytes. Start him on anti-virals and anti-seizure drugs. Herpes PCR on the spinal fluid comes back negative.
Despite everything we threw at him, he never completely stopped having seizures. Eight days after admission, and five days after he started with seizures, he died. I asked the family for an autopsy and we sent the brain out. Three months later, results came back HSV-2. Apparently the spinal fluid HSV PCR is only 94% sensitive so he was a false negative. We had still continued anti-virals anyway because we knew clinically nothing behaves like this except herpes. This was during the winter and he rarely left the house so we didn't think it was EEE or some other virus. When I dealt with those viruses, there was no such thing as PCR. We cultured samples using cell lines (immortal and diploid; WI-38, HeLa, FTE ouch... this hurts my brain remembering), and usually had results within weeks. We did drug studies (cytosine arabinoside was our main interest... I guess much better drugs have been developed since then). Yeah, Acyclovir only hit the market in 1977-78. My dad (also MD) was telling me they really didn't have any treatments prior to then. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:52:25 PM EDT
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Dr G did an episode where she did an autopsy on a woman who died after a kiss. She had lesions suggestive of AIDS/kaposi sarcoma. She actually found this woman died from HSV1. She even had lesions on her internal organs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had a patient last year who had it. Came into the hospital for a different reason and was put on high dose steroids. Talking on the phone apparently normally to his family, then two hours later starts having seizures and spiking fevers. I did a spinal tap and > 200 white blood cells, all lymphocytes. Start him on anti-virals and anti-seizure drugs. Herpes PCR on the spinal fluid comes back negative.
Despite everything we threw at him, he never completely stopped having seizures. Eight days after admission, and five days after he started with seizures, he died. I asked the family for an autopsy and we sent the brain out. Three months later, results came back HSV-2. Apparently the spinal fluid HSV PCR is only 94% sensitive so he was a false negative. We had still continued anti-virals anyway because we knew clinically nothing behaves like this except herpes. This was during the winter and he rarely left the house so we didn't think it was EEE or some other virus. Dr G did an episode where she did an autopsy on a woman who died after a kiss. She had lesions suggestive of AIDS/kaposi sarcoma. She actually found this woman died from HSV1. She even had lesions on her internal organs. I wonder if she had HIV and HSV1. If you're immunocompromised, it can be a very nasty virus. It will go through the brain like a hot knife through butter. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 3:56:26 PM EDT
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From what I've read (from reputable sources) the minority population in the US has large amounts of the nasty kind. Thats why you see those commercials and statistics with "1 in (x) people have genital herpes". Before I know that I wondered for a while if I knew a whole bunch of people that were keeping their herps secret.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:02:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:03:02 PM EDT
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Man I would hate to get that again.
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:10:49 PM EDT
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A girl in a rock band told me she had HSV2 (the genital kind) and that 1/4 people do and with Valtrex it's next to impossible to transmit. B.S.?
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:14:38 PM EDT
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A girl in a rock band told me she had HSV2 (the genital kind) and that 1/4 people do and with Valtrex it's next to impossible to transmit. B.S.? I read in an article while googling for info on this thread that with drugs and and condoms, the risk of transmission can be reduced to 1-2% chance per year of intercourse. There are a lot of variables of course. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 4:20:42 PM EDT
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And 50%-80% of Americans get cold sores. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are talking about the entire family of Herpesviridae, then virtually everyone here has had at least one of the following: HSV-1 (cold sores), HSV-2 (genital), VZV (chickenpox), EBV (mononucleosis), CMV (ditto), and HHV-6, a common childhood disease. If you are talking about the painful sores on the genitals, then based on the rate in the general population about 1 in 8. You're welcome. And 50%-80% of Americans get cold sores. Never had a cold sore, chicken pox (Which worries me a little but not enough to get the vax), HSV-2 (genital), or EBV (mononucleosis). Don't know about CMV or HHV-6. I did have measles, German measles and mumps, but I'm guessing none of them are herpes. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:05:18 PM EDT
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I wonder if she had HIV and HSV1. If you're immunocompromised, it can be a very nasty virus. It will go through the brain like a hot knife through butter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had a patient last year who had it. Came into the hospital for a different reason and was put on high dose steroids. Talking on the phone apparently normally to his family, then two hours later starts having seizures and spiking fevers. I did a spinal tap and > 200 white blood cells, all lymphocytes. Start him on anti-virals and anti-seizure drugs. Herpes PCR on the spinal fluid comes back negative.
Despite everything we threw at him, he never completely stopped having seizures. Eight days after admission, and five days after he started with seizures, he died. I asked the family for an autopsy and we sent the brain out. Three months later, results came back HSV-2. Apparently the spinal fluid HSV PCR is only 94% sensitive so he was a false negative. We had still continued anti-virals anyway because we knew clinically nothing behaves like this except herpes. This was during the winter and he rarely left the house so we didn't think it was EEE or some other virus. Dr G did an episode where she did an autopsy on a woman who died after a kiss. She had lesions suggestive of AIDS/kaposi sarcoma. She actually found this woman died from HSV1. She even had lesions on her internal organs. I wonder if she had HIV and HSV1. If you're immunocompromised, it can be a very nasty virus. It will go through the brain like a hot knife through butter. Negative. She had the body tested for that. It was negative. This woman died from HSV1 that infected her internal organs. She obviously had no previous exposure to the virus as a child and had no immunity. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:06:54 PM EDT
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I get a blood test for HSV1 and HSV2 antibodies every year. its not part of a standard STD panel, you have to request it. Still negative for both.
Get tested. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:07:12 PM EDT
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And 50%-80% of Americans get cold sores. false. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:08:34 PM EDT
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I've been lucky, banged a few chicks with it and apparently didn't get any on me. Female to male transmission is pretty low risk. with condoms you can reduce risk. With her on antiviral daily medication you can reduce it further. Get tested. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:09:42 PM EDT
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The same 2/3 of the rest of the population that has it in one form or another. In this thread we learn who's a filthy liar. ignorance about herpes is real. Rate of herpes infection is exaggerated. Get tested. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:11:19 PM EDT
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You probably don't have HSV-2, the virus usually responsible for genital herpes. But I would bet my mortgage that you have antibodies to at least one other type of herpes virus. Probably chickenpox or HSV-1. If i send you my lab results showing I'm negative for HSV1 will you mail me your mortgage payment? I'll just need your address. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:13:54 PM EDT
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It's weird how the vote here is almost the exact opposite of infection rates in the US. I wonder how many are lying and how many just don't know. Most don't know. And its dangerous to say well everyone probably got it as a kid so its no big deal. thats how unaffected people get exposed unnecessarily. Get tested and share your results with potential partners before you even kiss them. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:16:16 PM EDT
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Up to 80% of the population have been exposed to HSV-1 ... Exposed doesn't mean infected. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 6:18:05 PM EDT
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I read in an article while googling for info on this thread that with drugs and and condoms, the risk of transmission can be reduced to 1-2% chance per year of intercourse. Yep, definitely single digit sis of transmission fro female to male. Male to female transmissions are much higher though. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 10:09:53 PM EDT
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Negative. She had the body tested for that. It was negative. This woman died from HSV1 that infected her internal organs. She obviously had no previous exposure to the virus as a child and had no immunity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had a patient last year who had it. Came into the hospital for a different reason and was put on high dose steroids. Talking on the phone apparently normally to his family, then two hours later starts having seizures and spiking fevers. I did a spinal tap and > 200 white blood cells, all lymphocytes. Start him on anti-virals and anti-seizure drugs. Herpes PCR on the spinal fluid comes back negative.
Despite everything we threw at him, he never completely stopped having seizures. Eight days after admission, and five days after he started with seizures, he died. I asked the family for an autopsy and we sent the brain out. Three months later, results came back HSV-2. Apparently the spinal fluid HSV PCR is only 94% sensitive so he was a false negative. We had still continued anti-virals anyway because we knew clinically nothing behaves like this except herpes. This was during the winter and he rarely left the house so we didn't think it was EEE or some other virus. Dr G did an episode where she did an autopsy on a woman who died after a kiss. She had lesions suggestive of AIDS/kaposi sarcoma. She actually found this woman died from HSV1. She even had lesions on her internal organs. I wonder if she had HIV and HSV1. If you're immunocompromised, it can be a very nasty virus. It will go through the brain like a hot knife through butter. Negative. She had the body tested for that. It was negative. This woman died from HSV1 that infected her internal organs. She obviously had no previous exposure to the virus as a child and had no immunity. Interesting. Definitely something you see with newborns, but less common to have a systemic infection like that in adults. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 10:19:18 PM EDT
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The majority of infected people are asymptomatic carriers for Type 1 and to a lesser extent Type 2. Unless antibody titers are drawn, there is no way to know outside of a clinical infection. You'd be better off asking how many have had an actual herpes sore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IBTL Why. Its a legitimate question about a real medical condition. I was wondering what percent of Arf is afflicted. The majority of infected people are asymptomatic carriers for Type 1 and to a lesser extent Type 2. Unless antibody titers are drawn, there is no way to know outside of a clinical infection. You'd be better off asking how many have had an actual herpes sore. I've had titers done, twice. I'm in the clear. Thank god. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 10:21:03 PM EDT
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Purely from a clinical standpoint, your mom can give you Type 1 by kissing you goodnight. Since 30% of oral herpes is actually Type 2 (thank you sexual revolution!), she can give you that too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What a morbid thing to wonder. Besides you gotta get laid to get an STD. So probably not too many are at risk here. True, true. Hard to catch anything from Mom's basement. Well... except for a case of acute loneliness.  Purely from a clinical standpoint, your mom can give you Type 1 by kissing you goodnight. Since 30% of oral herpes is actually Type 2 (thank you sexual revolution!), she can give you that too. HSV-2 has an extremely low oral transmission rate. Like ridiculously low. |
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Posted: 1/22/2017 10:22:43 PM EDT
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But you won't notice because it is asymptomatic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The sad thing about this thread is that it'll probably be back next month. And the month after that... But you won't notice because it is asymptomatic. <golfclap> |
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