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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 7:50:29 AM EST
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I am anxiously awaiting the return of my K from Dead Air. I had to send it in after discovering a pretty severe alignment issue. Fucker was throwing my shots high and left about 4” at something like 10 yards.

In the meantime, I ordered a jig to dimple my FN CHF 8.5” 300 barrel that came with my PSA upper so I can install a Geissele gas block and a DDC MK4 I just snagged on the EE for a good price. I have a Surefire scout mini that will reside on it.

My plan is to have it in a Hornady wall safe in my closet. My 2 year old sleeps with my every night so it’s realistically the only way to store it nearby. It’s built on a PSA Approval-15 lower with an SBA3 brace.

If it ever gets used, the media might have a field day over the rollmark what with its implication of the shameless disregard this individual has demonstrated toward the NFA process for possessing a short barrel rifle by making use of a loophole in the language!


I’ll be excited when it is up and running.
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I can't wait for mine. This is also a 300BO and I think some 110 VMax's will be perfect
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 7:53:20 AM EST
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Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips.
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Worshiper of Ayoob?
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 7:54:14 AM EST
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AR 9, SBR, Suppressed, 32 rounds of Federal HST goodness, Light and red dot on a Display Tactical stand by my bed for easy access.

Why?

Because I’m not missing 32 times.

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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 7:55:59 AM EST
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12 gauge with custom hand loads that consist of #4 shot and dragons breath shot material this way when I shoot intruders not only does it neutralize them it cauterizes the wound making cleanup minimal.
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Smart. That way you can tell the jury you were trying to provide medical attention ASAP.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 7:56:48 AM EST
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10.3 DD MK18 upper with some improvements.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 7:59:52 AM EST
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Who convinced you of this nonsense?
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:01:09 AM EST
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For home defense distances a traditional stock offers no advantages. Being charged and going in front of a jury in a self defense shooting defending you and your family's lives on your property would be extremely unlikely.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:02:02 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:03:37 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:04:09 AM EST
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KSG shotgun and 25 mini-shells.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:06:41 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:07:02 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:08:37 AM EST
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KSG shotgun and 25 mini-shells.
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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:14:15 AM EST
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So you want your hd gun to be a mini14?
Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips.
Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:19:43 AM EST
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"traditional stocks are better for cqb". Said by noone that has actually done cqb.
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Wrong. SWAT and military guys are pretty much fully converted from ARs to Mini 14s now. Even HRT has been convinced that the pistol grip is detrimental and switched over to Remington 700s in 30-06 for CQB.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:21:05 AM EST
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My honest answer is :

AR
Shotgun
Pistol

The pistol is mainly for answering the door at night. Answering the door with a rifle or shotgun in hand sees like a good way to get shot by an anxious police officer.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:23:55 AM EST
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That's a myth. Kind of like the old gun store rumour of if you reload you a premeditated murder all of a sudden.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:27:33 AM EST
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My honest answer is :

AR
Shotgun
Pistol

The pistol is mainly for answering the door at night. Answering the door with a rifle or shotgun in hand sees like a good way to get shot by an anxious police officer.
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We’ve seen that you don’t even have to answer the door or actually have a firearm to be shot by an anxious police officer.

Getting shot through a window while standing in your home has been an issue in the last year, discussed here on arfcom and had some arfcops defending it as a legitimate use of force.

So, YMMV.  I’m bringing firepower.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:36:34 AM EST
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You never go full retard.

Except just then.

and probably other times

ETA:

aaaaand you did it again.



https://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-1-the-original-box-o-truth/
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Probably.
I'm not known to be real smart.
HD gun is loaded with Hornady TAP 55gr, not FMJ.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:39:29 AM EST
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For non-tier-1 amateurs, they are easier to support one-handed and retain if grabbed.
At least that's been my experience working with amateurs and being one myself.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:39:30 AM EST
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If a jury is your primary concern for a HD gun, you should be looking at pump shotguns.
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Until you shoot them in the head, and blow their face off. Jury in a civil trial sees pics, you are screwed.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:41:42 AM EST
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For non-tier-1 amateurs, they are easier to support one-handed and retain if grabbed.
At least that's been my experience working with amateurs and being one myself.
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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:42:37 AM EST
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We've seen that you don't even have to answer the door or actually have a firearm to be shot by an anxious police officer.

Getting shot through a window while standing in your home has been an issue in the last year, discussed here on arfcom and had some arfcops defending it as a legitimate use of force.

So, YMMV.  I'm bringing firepower.
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My honest answer is :

AR
Shotgun
Pistol

The pistol is mainly for answering the door at night. Answering the door with a rifle or shotgun in hand sees like a good way to get shot by an anxious police officer.
We've seen that you don't even have to answer the door or actually have a firearm to be shot by an anxious police officer.

Getting shot through a window while standing in your home has been an issue in the last year, discussed here on arfcom and had some arfcops defending it as a legitimate use of force.

So, YMMV.  I'm bringing firepower.
Not defending the shootings, but every one I know of the person was armed.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:45:14 AM EST
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pop smoke and exit out the back
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:46:18 AM EST
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Choice: 5.56 SBR AR, Suppressor, MRO, Sling, MAWL, WP DTNVGs

Reality: 5.56 SBR AR, Suppressor, MRO, Sling, Modlite
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:46:41 AM EST
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Do you have anything solid to back up this claim? I’m going with...false.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 8:48:15 AM EST
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Two shotgun blasts off the porch covers ALL scenarios.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:05:47 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:06:48 AM EST
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Do you have anything solid to back up this claim? I’m going with...false.
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Just my experience as an amateur and working with other amateurs. Conventional stock was easier to support gun one-handed and retain if grabbed.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:08:00 AM EST
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What color is the sun in your universe?
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White.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:10:32 AM EST
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So you want your hd gun to be a mini14?
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Lot easier to hit the broad side of a barn, when you're inside the barn

Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:12:22 AM EST
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They go bang when people tell them to, and across a residential structure they're plenty accurate.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:14:24 AM EST
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Got any citations?
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:15:34 AM EST
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Just my experience as an amateur and working with other amateurs. Conventional stock was easier to support gun one-handed and retain if grabbed.
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What did this “experience” consist of?
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:16:29 AM EST
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So you want your hd gun to be a mini14?
Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips.
Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury.
My arguments are simple, I'm going to use the safest and most effective tools I'm aware of and possess to defend myself and family.  I'll worry about what a jury thinks if we survive the home invasion.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:23:17 AM EST
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Sir, with all due respect, I would remove all firearms from your posession.

It would be best to call 911, then hide behind the door with a baseball bat while waiting for police.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:27:57 AM EST
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Two shotgun blasts off the porch covers ALL scenarios.
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Big Truth.

Even if you don’t happen to have a porch... Run around the neighborhood and find a porch to shoot off of.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:29:25 AM EST
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So you want your hd gun to be a mini14?
Traditional stocks are better for CQB vs pistol grips.
Fudd rifles are better in front of a jury.
You sure have a lot of confidence in things that aren't so.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:30:27 AM EST
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Choice and reality: Ratmil Draco 7.62x39mm 'pistol' with 75-rd drum. No stock, brace, or sling. Shoot from the hip and 'walk' the rounds towards the intruder.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:32:50 AM EST
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Ok, so the majority opinion  is that I'm tarded.
Educate me in the wise ways.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:35:36 AM EST
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Choice and reality: Ratmil Draco 7.62x39mm 'pistol' with 75-rd drum. No stock, brace, or sling. Shoot from the hip and 'walk' the rounds towards the intruder.
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Fellow draco owner checking in to say fuck that.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:37:02 AM EST
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Not defending the shootings, but every one I know of the person was armed.
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And why shouldn't someone be armed in their home?
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:37:47 AM EST
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Seems to me that pistols in pistol calibers, even braced ones, reign supreme for most people.  Easy to open doors, and similar.  Wont make you deaf.

For folks in the country with property and animal issues, the rifle and shotgun are the hand on favorites.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:37:51 AM EST
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This thread is aids

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Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:38:53 AM EST
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Ok, so the majority opinion  is that I'm tarded.
Educate me in the wise ways.
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Ignorance can be cured with education.

Stupid is forever.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:39:50 AM EST
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Reality for me is I have little kids and probably need a hand/arm free to help carry and usher them to safety. Although a rifle makes a lot of sense, I think honestly a pistol w/light serves my purposes better.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:44:47 AM EST
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Just my experience as an amateur and working with other amateurs. Conventional stock was easier to support gun one-handed and retain if grabbed.
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Your icon shows instructor, I just hope it’s bullseye pistol or skeet
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:46:07 AM EST
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Going to see about a bump in the night...Glock 19 with an X300U

Surefire 6p with a lanyard and Malkoff upgrade next to it.

Door kicked in and full on home invasion?  Colt 6921 with an Aimpoint T-1 and another Malkoff upgraded 6P.  Loaded up with 75 grain TAP
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 9:46:58 AM EST
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Your icon shows instructor, I just hope it’s bullseye pistol or skeet
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Those who can't do, teach.
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