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The sheer amount of ash would be so great that it would encircle the entire atmosphere within a few weeks. Global temps would drop by at least 10 degrees. This would last for at least a few years. Combines with the immediate fallout of fire and brimstone, it would be a extinction level event. Most life will not survive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When it blows I hope theres a cat 5 hurricane headed for the Texas coast to turn the ash cloud northwest The sheer amount of ash would be so great that it would encircle the entire atmosphere within a few weeks. Global temps would drop by at least 10 degrees. This would last for at least a few years. Combines with the immediate fallout of fire and brimstone, it would be a extinction level event. Most life will not survive. Not even close to that. This happens every few 100k-1000k years. There are a few super volcanoes, one even bigger than Yellow Stone, Toba most likely the most recent "big" one she spat out 74k years ago. |
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You might want to wait on eating the cat until after the volcano blows and you will have something to eat besides birds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is it happening? It might be... 2,000,000 - 1,200,000 = 800,000 years 1,200,000 - 640,000 = 560,000 years 640,000 - 0 = 640,000 years Could be any day now. I'm going to go ahead and eat my neighbor's cat just to be on the safe side. You might want to wait on eating the cat until after the volcano blows and you will have something to eat besides birds. I am being proactive. |
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Gotta admit this thought crossed my mind as well View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why don't they just drill to the chamber and lance it? (Only half-joking) Gotta admit this thought crossed my mind as well That would have to be one hell of a BOP on that rig. |
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This is long known info...
Super Volcanos are a bitch. If that plug lets go, it is SHTF time. Keep em dry! |
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2,000,000 - 1,200,000 = 800,000 years 1,200,000 - 640,000 = 560,000 years 640,000 - 0 = 640,000 years Could be any day now. I'm going to go ahead and eat my neighbor's cat just to be on the safe side. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is it happening? It might be... 2,000,000 - 1,200,000 = 800,000 years 1,200,000 - 640,000 = 560,000 years 640,000 - 0 = 640,000 years Could be any day now. I'm going to go ahead and eat my neighbor's cat just to be on the safe side. When should we start drinking our own urine. |
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And there's not a damn thing we can do about it, so who cares? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Super volcano's are no joke. If that one blew we would be screwed. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it, so who cares? Exactly. If God wants me home for dinner, whether it be by super-volcano, bullet, or freak nerf gun accident, He knows where to find me. |
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The sheer amount of ash would be so great that it would encircle the entire atmosphere within a few weeks. Global temps would drop by at least 10 degrees. This would last for at least a few years. Combines with the immediate fallout of fire and brimstone, it would be a extinction level event. Most life will not survive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When it blows I hope theres a cat 5 hurricane headed for the Texas coast to turn the ash cloud northwest The sheer amount of ash would be so great that it would encircle the entire atmosphere within a few weeks. Global temps would drop by at least 10 degrees. This would last for at least a few years. Combines with the immediate fallout of fire and brimstone, it would be a extinction level event. Most life will not survive. You cheery Devil, You! It's like living here with the missiles: the living will envy the dead. The Ol' Crew Chief |
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Cockroaches and Keith Richards will survive View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When it blows I hope theres a cat 5 hurricane headed for the Texas coast to turn the ash cloud northwest The sheer amount of ash would be so great that it would encircle the entire atmosphere within a few weeks. Global temps would drop by at least 10 degrees. This would last for at least a few years. Combines with the immediate fallout of fire and brimstone, it would be a extinction level event. Most life will not survive. Ya made hork a beer up my nose. Need someone to morph Keith and a roach, is why I laughed, I had an instant Mental Picture. And, have been hearing about this event for awhile, that's a Lot of Magma. |
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The number of arfcommers who can't tell the difference between SQUARED "X^2" and CUBED "X^3" is much more alarming than the prospect of a Yellowstone Basin super-volcano eruption in the near future.
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This is something new? I have seen news reports about this before the internet was born.
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Quoted: To anyone thinking Volcano's are not one of the most destructive, if not the most destructive forces on earth, I present Chile, 2015. http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/AP_chile_volcano_3_jtm_150303_4x3_992.jpg View Quote |
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If Yellowstone goes, I'm probably close enough to momentarily surf the pyroclastic flow assuming my ashes aren't already airborne.
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I got 3 pmags for the 1st out-of-work fracker to set up shop near D.C. and aim for this thing.
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The top of the magma chamber is a minimum of 80,000 feet deep, the method of seismic tomography is not designed for accurate depth measurements
From the Kola Superdeep borehole Wikipedia site "The hole reached 12,262 m (40,230 ft) in 1989. In that year, the hole depth was expected to reach 13,500 m (44,300 ft) by the end of 1990 and 15,000 m (49,000 ft) by 1993.[5][6] However, because of higher-than-expected temperatures at this depth and location, 180 °C (356 °F) instead of expected 100 °C (212 °F), drilling deeper was deemed unfeasible and the drilling was stopped in 1992.[4] With the projected further increase in temperature with increasing depth, drilling to 15,000 m (49,000 ft) would have meant working at a temperature of 300 °C (570 °F), where the drill bit would no longer work." Drilling in the caldera with the higher geothermal gradient I am guessing the temperatures would reach 300 C by less than 20000 feet so poking a hole in the chamber is only in the realm of bad movies. I think the enviros would get upset with a geothermal energy project that would likely affect the plumbing system that powers the geysers. The tiltmeter network in the area will tell us if the magma is moving upward. Then you can eat the neighbor's cat and dog. |
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The top of the magma chamber is a minimum of 80,000 feet deep, the method of seismic tomography is not designed for accurate depth measurements From the Kola Superdeep borehole Wikipedia site "The hole reached 12,262 m (40,230 ft) in 1989. In that year, the hole depth was expected to reach 13,500 m (44,300 ft) by the end of 1990 and 15,000 m (49,000 ft) by 1993.[5][6] However, because of higher-than-expected temperatures at this depth and location, 180 °C (356 °F) instead of expected 100 °C (212 °F), drilling deeper was deemed unfeasible and the drilling was stopped in 1992.[4] With the projected further increase in temperature with increasing depth, drilling to 15,000 m (49,000 ft) would have meant working at a temperature of 300 °C (570 °F), where the drill bit would no longer work." Drilling in the caldera with the higher geothermal gradient I am guessing the temperatures would reach 300 C by less than 20000 feet so poking a hole in the chamber is only in the realm of bad movies. I think the enviros would get upset with a geothermal energy project that would likely affect the plumbing system that powers the geysers. The tiltmeter network in the area will tell us if the magma is moving upward. Then you can eat the neighbor's cat and dog. View Quote Don't drill with mud. Drill with liquid nitrogen and foam. |
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2,000,000 - 1,200,000 = 800,000 years 1,200,000 - 640,000 = 560,000 years 640,000 - 0 = 640,000 years Could be any day now. I'm going to go ahead and eat my neighbor's cat just to be on the safe side. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is it happening? It might be... 2,000,000 - 1,200,000 = 800,000 years 1,200,000 - 640,000 = 560,000 years 640,000 - 0 = 640,000 years Could be any day now. I'm going to go ahead and eat my neighbor's cat just to be on the safe side. That's an euphemism, right? |
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If life is still here after the last 2 eruptions. Life will go on.
I'd head to Mexico illegally and with out papers. Armed to the teeth. Even with news of the larger deeper caldera, not all of the caldera would empty. Good news is hot climates would become more temperate. |
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If it blew the entire western Unites States would be under 10ft of toxic ash.
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So are we sure we can't just kill it with fire?
I mean that is typically the trusted arfcom solution to big scary things right? |
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If life is still here after the last 2 eruptions. Life will go on. I'd head to Mexico illegally and with out papers. Armed to the teeth. Even with news of the larger deeper caldera, not all of the caldera would empty. Good news is hot climates would become more temperate. View Quote Sure it would go on, just like it did 640,000 years ago, and with roughly the same number of people and same level of technology. |
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I'm always annoyed by predictions of death and mayhem from stuff like this. The biggest eruptions in modern history, going back to Krakatoa and beyond, hardly resulted in mass kill-offs of civilization. Even if the Yellowstone eruption were 3 or 4 times as massive, it would still be a fairly localized event ... have you looked at how big the United States is lately?
As far as blacking out the entire atmosphere with dust and 30% of the Earth's population starving, that's just goofy. The Earth is a big place, too, and that dust would dissipate to a large degree as it spread though out the atmosphere. Sure, it would have an effect, just as Mt. St. Helens did, but the dire predictions about that one didn't exactly pan out, either. Ten feet of ash over the whole U. S.? Are you kidding? It would be a messy event, and lots of folks in the states surrounding Yellowstone would be in trouble, but I somehow think the rest of us would survive. |
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All the birds will be gone. We will be drinking coffee made with snow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is it happening? It might be... 2,000,000 - 1,200,000 = 800,000 years 1,200,000 - 640,000 = 560,000 years 640,000 - 0 = 640,000 years Could be any day now. I'm going to go ahead and eat my neighbor's cat just to be on the safe side. You might want to wait on eating the cat until after the volcano blows and you will have something to eat besides birds. All the birds will be gone. We will be drinking coffee made with snow. There are two left. I can't wait 'til Tuesday. They are yummy. |
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This is one of those TEOTWAKI scenarios that we can't really prepare for or do anything about. No real point in worrying about it. It would darken the skies globally and result in a miniature ice age that would last for a few years. During that time probably 30-60% of humanity will die of starvation or war over resources. It isn't one of those things that would end our species(unless it caused a nuclear war to break out over resources), but it would definitely set us back a good 50+ years. I guess you could theoretically prepare for it by maintaining a stock of food that could last you for 3-5 years. You'd also want a stock of seeds and farming supplies so you could start growing more food once conditions permitted it. In addition to those requirements you'd need a way to get clean water because all of the rivers and such would be fouled by the ash fallout. Then there's the issue of the hungry mobs that would be roaming around searching for supplies and the fact that the govt might declare marshal law and 'confiscate' your supplies and guns for the greater good of public order. Good luck with that Personally I'd just sit by the caldera in a lawn chair and watch one of the greatest fireworks displays we could ever see The third option is to become the leader of the hungry roaming mobs and build your empire and harem of soccer moms like the Apex Predator you are. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_w61HI9ewCo/maxresdefault.jpg View Quote Food for 3-5 years. Check Seeds. Check Clean water. Check Hungrey mobs. Check I need to add 60 cords of wood to my list. And a moat. |
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I'm always annoyed by predictions of death and mayhem from stuff like this. The biggest eruptions in modern history, going back to Krakatoa and beyond, hardly resulted in mass kill-offs of civilization. Even if the Yellowstone eruption were 3 or 4 times as massive, it would still be a fairly localized event ... have you looked at how big the United States is lately? As far as blacking out the entire atmosphere with dust and 30% of the Earth's population starving, that's just goofy. The Earth is a big place, too, and that dust would dissipate to a large degree as it spread though out the atmosphere. Sure, it would have an effect, just as Mt. St. Helens did, but the dire predictions about that one didn't exactly pan out, either. Ten feet of ash over the whole U. S.? Are you kidding? It would be a messy event, and lots of folks in the states surrounding Yellowstone would be in trouble, but I somehow think the rest of us would survive. View Quote Uh... you need to go back to the library. When it comes to supervolcanic eruptions, and the release of such a large caldera, the geographic distribution of ash across 2/3rds of N. America is well understood. You can simply DIG down into the dirt and find the layers. And map out how far the ash got. http://www.mnh.si.edu/earth/text/images/4_0_0_0/4252-5.jpg And that's where it was thick enough to be found as a geologic layer to be compared and dated. The region where it was still enough to choke you, screw up your car, ruin all the lakes and rivers, and making farming nigh impossible for several years is roughly another 1-2 states wider than the regions shown on the map I linked to above. |
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This is good news. That much magma guarantees that we will not have to rely on foreign imports of magma for decades to come.
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Yellowstone wouldn't be a species threatening event but it would mean a complete change in the world's demographic makeup. The U.S. would be finished as a world power. Probably a third of the world's population would starve in the first couple years. It would be turning the clock on human advancements back at least a hundred years. View Quote Yeah, but would we finally be able to get some .22? |
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I'm always annoyed by predictions of death and mayhem from stuff like this. The biggest eruptions in modern history, going back to Krakatoa and beyond, hardly resulted in mass kill-offs of civilization. Even if the Yellowstone eruption were 3 or 4 times as massive, it would still be a fairly localized event ... have you looked at how big the United States is lately? View Quote The biggest eruptions in modern history are rather small in comparison to what supervolancoes are capable of. It is estimated that the last of the Yellowstone eruptions - which was by no means the largest - ejected about 1000 cubic kilometers of material. By comparison, Krakatoa was only around 25 cubic kilometers. We aren't talking four times as powerful. We're talking forty times - or even more. |
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should I sell my place in Jackson Hole for what I can get, right now?
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Well, they could open it up and toss in a virgin or two, to appease the Fire Gods
There's just one problem. Where are you going to find a virgin in Wyoming? |
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The size of volume of the chamber is 11,500 cubic MILES. If I remember math right, that means that each side of the cube containing that material would be around 3800 miles. Thinking of a magma chamber that is roughly the size of most of this country is pretty staggering. If nature decides to blow up that one, there wouldn't be a damned thing anyone could do about it, and I imagine it would end most life on earth. View Quote Lol. You don't remember math right. |
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The size of volume of the chamber is 11,500 cubic MILES. If I remember math right, that means that each side of the cube containing that material would be around 3800 miles. Thinking of a magma chamber that is roughly the size of most of this country is pretty staggering. If nature decides to blow up that one, there wouldn't be a damned thing anyone could do about it, and I imagine it would end most life on earth. View Quote More like 23 miles per side. |
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The size of volume of the chamber is 11,500 cubic MILES. If I remember math right, that means that each side of the cube containing that material would be around 3800 miles. Thinking of a magma chamber that is roughly the size of most of this country is pretty staggering. If nature decides to blow up that one, there wouldn't be a damned thing anyone could do about it, and I imagine it would end most life on earth. Lol. You don't remember math right. When you can't find out how to get your calculator to do cube root, just divide by three :) |
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... in other news, magma is believed to exist below the entire surface of the earth at some depth or another
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Don't worry because an environmental impact study has not been filed or approved by the Federal Government so an eruption can not take place.
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When should we start drinking our own urine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is it happening? It might be... 2,000,000 - 1,200,000 = 800,000 years 1,200,000 - 640,000 = 560,000 years 640,000 - 0 = 640,000 years Could be any day now. I'm going to go ahead and eat my neighbor's cat just to be on the safe side. When should we start drinking our own urine. I drink a half a cup a day just so I get accustomed to it. Easiest way to prep. Start off with a shot glass a day...trust me. |
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