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Seriously, could lava people defeat lizard people? I'm getting worried now.
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Quoted: Drill geothermal wells near the pocket. Pipe in salt water. Use the distilled water to power steam turbines and send the condensate to California. http://inside.edison.com/content/inside/2013/04-13/g413/_jcr_content/primaryContent/secondarytextimage_1/image.img.jpg/1381344579103.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A shame we can't tap all that energy somehow Might as well make it our nuclear waste repository, couldn't be much worse. Drill geothermal wells near the pocket. Pipe in salt water. Use the distilled water to power steam turbines and send the condensate to California. http://inside.edison.com/content/inside/2013/04-13/g413/_jcr_content/primaryContent/secondarytextimage_1/image.img.jpg/1381344579103.jpg |
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Uh... you need to go back to the library. When it comes to supervolcanic eruptions, and the release of such a large caldera, the geographic distribution of ash across 2/3rds of N. America is well understood. You can simply DIG down into the dirt and find the layers. And map out how far the ash got. http://www.mnh.si.edu/earth/text/images/4_0_0_0/4252-5.jpg And that's where it was thick enough to be found as a geologic layer to be compared and dated. The region where it was still enough to choke you, screw up your car, ruin all the lakes and rivers, and making farming nigh impossible for several years is roughly another 1-2 states wider than the regions shown on the map I linked to above. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm always annoyed by predictions of death and mayhem from stuff like this. The biggest eruptions in modern history, going back to Krakatoa and beyond, hardly resulted in mass kill-offs of civilization. Even if the Yellowstone eruption were 3 or 4 times as massive, it would still be a fairly localized event ... have you looked at how big the United States is lately? As far as blacking out the entire atmosphere with dust and 30% of the Earth's population starving, that's just goofy. The Earth is a big place, too, and that dust would dissipate to a large degree as it spread though out the atmosphere. Sure, it would have an effect, just as Mt. St. Helens did, but the dire predictions about that one didn't exactly pan out, either. Ten feet of ash over the whole U. S.? Are you kidding? It would be a messy event, and lots of folks in the states surrounding Yellowstone would be in trouble, but I somehow think the rest of us would survive. Uh... you need to go back to the library. When it comes to supervolcanic eruptions, and the release of such a large caldera, the geographic distribution of ash across 2/3rds of N. America is well understood. You can simply DIG down into the dirt and find the layers. And map out how far the ash got. http://www.mnh.si.edu/earth/text/images/4_0_0_0/4252-5.jpg And that's where it was thick enough to be found as a geologic layer to be compared and dated. The region where it was still enough to choke you, screw up your car, ruin all the lakes and rivers, and making farming nigh impossible for several years is roughly another 1-2 states wider than the regions shown on the map I linked to above. Meh. I've spent lots of time in the library and minored in Geology in college. The Earth is a very different place compared to a couple million years ago. In addition, there's no direct correlation between past eruptions at Yellowstone and the size of the current magma chamber (if they even measured it accurately). Every volcanic event is unique in intensity and volume/nature of ejecta, and just because one eruption spread shit for a thousand miles doesn't mean they all will. Last but not least, there's not been a wide-scale event in modern times like some are predicting to actually observe and see what the actual damage would be. Million-year-old geological evidence is compelling, but not convicting. Remember, many experts were predicting St. Helens would render the area sterile for decades, and were amazed when plants were found sprouting there within months of the eruption. These same experts love to paint pictures of massive devastation wrought by natural forces. |
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This makes you wonder how likely a catastrophic volcanic (?) event is there and whether it can be reliably predicted in times to prevent massive deaths.
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So you are saying, let's perforate the rock that holding the magma back. I don't see any problems with this plan..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A shame we can't tap all that energy somehow Might as well make it our nuclear waste repository, couldn't be much worse. Drill geothermal wells near the pocket. Pipe in salt water. Use the distilled water to power steam turbines and send the condensate to California. http://inside.edison.com/content/inside/2013/04-13/g413/_jcr_content/primaryContent/secondarytextimage_1/image.img.jpg/1381344579103.jpg No, dont perforate the lava dome. Just get near it. Thats how old faithful works. |
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eruptions 2 million, 1.2 million and 640,000 years ago View Quote Wonder which of these past 3 eruptions does this large reservoir represent, or is it larger? |
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I get a familiar tingle in my loin area when i read this thread title.
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Quoted: All the birds will be gone. We will be drinking coffee made with snow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it happening? It might be... 2,000,000 - 1,200,000 = 800,000 years 1,200,000 - 640,000 = 560,000 years 640,000 - 0 = 640,000 years Could be any day now. I'm going to go ahead and eat my neighbor's cat just to be on the safe side. You might want to wait on eating the cat until after the volcano blows and you will have something to eat besides birds. All the birds will be gone. We will be drinking coffee made with snow. |
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The size of volume of the chamber is 11,500 cubic MILES. If I remember math right, that means that each side of the cube containing that material would be around 3800 miles. Thinking of a magma chamber that is roughly the size of most of this country is pretty staggering. If nature decides to blow up that one, there wouldn't be a damned thing anyone could do about it, and I imagine it would end most life on earth. View Quote Uh no. The cube root of 11,500 cubic miles is 22.6 miles |
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Quoted: Does this mean Anne Margeret's not coming? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Hot! Gigantic Magma Reservoir Found Under Yellowstone National Park Link Scientists have detected a gigantic reservoir of hot, partly molten rock deep beneath Yellowstone National Park. The newly discovered magma reservoir is big enough to fill up the Grand Canyon 11 times and is several times larger than the shallower, long-known magma chamber beneath Yellowstone. Researchers on Thursday said they used a technique called seismic tomography to a produce for the first time a complete picture of the volcanic "plumbing system" at Yellowstone, from the Earth's mantle up to the surface. Yellowstone, which straddles the borders of Wyoming, Idaho and Montana, boasts a remarkable array of geothermal features including geysers, mudpots, steam vents and hot springs. It sits atop a supervolcano that has had three calamitous past eruptions. Scientists already knew of a large magma chamber under Yellowstone that fed the eruptions 2 million, 1.2 million and 640,000 years ago. The new study, published in the journal Science, revealed a second, deeper reservoir 4.4 times larger. Does this mean Anne Margeret's not coming? Well played, sir. The 4077th approves of your message |
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Can't someone figure out a way that I can heat my home with all that
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If that thing blows, I want to be standing on top of it, riding the wave.
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Super volcano's are no joke. If that one blew we would be screwed. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it, so who cares? Al Gore can give some more speeches. That just makes it snow. |
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That mother fucker will probably explode soon. We are doing a very good job at pissing mother nature off and fucking this world up. Time for some cleansing.
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I just wonder if they can drill geothermal wells around it. Produce electricity and cool it off a little. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is that where all that steam comes from? I just wonder if they can drill geothermal wells around it. Produce electricity and cool it off a little. Maybe we can just help break Kalifornia off into the ocean, allowing the new Pacific coastline to cool it. I'm willing to try. |
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Scientists have detected a gigantic reservoir of hot, partly molten rock deep beneath Yellowstone National Park. View Quote What did they think was heating up the hot water? A coleman camp stove? |
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Like poking a small hole in the sidewall of a truck tire so the air will leak out? (Somebody post the video) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What keeps the chamber from emptying is the fact it is under pressure. Quoted:
If you release the pressure (eruption) the magma decompresses and dissolved gases start boiling/blasting out. So please refrain from poking the magma chamber. The idea would be to release the pressure at a slower rate. Rather then release it all at once. Like poking a small hole in the sidewall of a truck tire so the air will leak out? (Somebody post the video) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Or perhaps like sticking a pin into an inflated balloon? |
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And there's not a damn thing we can do about it, so who cares? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Super volcano's are no joke. If that one blew we would be screwed. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it, so who cares? Negatory. Never give up. I moved from WY to CO to Miami. If it blows, I'm gonna feel like a genius, It ain't a world ender, but all the Bahgdad Bobs are gonna lose a good portion of their 401K. |
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Yellowstone wouldn't be a species threatening event but it would mean a complete change in the world's demographic makeup. The U.S. would be finished as a world power. Probably a third of the world's population would starve in the first couple years. It would be turning the clock on human advancements back at least a hundred years. View Quote So.... it would be like four more years of Obama? |
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news flash, there's a giant pool of magma under ALL of us. HUGE.
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Krakatoa lowered global temps by about 3F for about 5 years. This would be an order of magnitude far greater than that eruption. Toba supposedly dropped temps by an estimated 21F. Then there's acid rain over much of the world that'll kill off most plant and animal life. I'm sure there'd be pockets of survivors but the large majority 95%+ would be dead in under a year. Kinda hard to prep for that
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Krakatoa lowered global temps by about 3F for about 5 years. This would be an order of magnitude far greater than that eruption. Toba supposedly dropped temps by an estimated 21F. Then there's acid rain over much of the world that'll kill off most plant and animal life. I'm sure there'd be pockets of survivors but the large majority 95%+ would be dead in under a year. Kinda hard to prep for that View Quote No. Just stop. The stupidity is going to rip the world asunder. |
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Krakatoa lowered global temps by about 3F for about 5 years. This would be an order of magnitude far greater than that eruption. Toba supposedly dropped temps by an estimated 21F. Then there's acid rain over much of the world that'll kill off most plant and animal life. I'm sure there'd be pockets of survivors but the large majority 95%+ would be dead in under a year. View Quote Or not. Predictions of disaster often have a way of not being so accurate, because we don't know as much as we think we know about exactly what the earth is going to do. |
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A list of Super Volcano eruptions. Note how Mount St. Helens only produced 1km of material and Super Volcano's produce 1000km+ material.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_volcanic_eruptions The most powerful eruption in recent history (1918) which produced 160km of material. People could hear the sound of explosions 1600 miles away (equilvilent to a 800MT bomb) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1815_eruption_of_Mount_Tambora Mount Tambora as today. A sketch from 1918 before it blew. |
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No. Just stop. The stupidity is going to rip the world asunder. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Krakatoa lowered global temps by about 3F for about 5 years. This would be an order of magnitude far greater than that eruption. Toba supposedly dropped temps by an estimated 21F. Then there's acid rain over much of the world that'll kill off most plant and animal life. I'm sure there'd be pockets of survivors but the large majority 95%+ would be dead in under a year. Kinda hard to prep for that No. Just stop. The stupidity is going to rip the world asunder. http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/364/1845/2073#sec-6 That's cool bro. These guys probably have no fucking clue either. Science and shit |
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When should we start drinking our own urine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is it happening? It might be... 2,000,000 - 1,200,000 = 800,000 years 1,200,000 - 640,000 = 560,000 years 640,000 - 0 = 640,000 years Could be any day now. I'm going to go ahead and eat my neighbor's cat just to be on the safe side. When should we start drinking our own urine. Wait, you don't? |
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Quoted: This is one of those TEOTWAKI scenarios that we can't really prepare for or do anything about. No real point in worrying about it. It would darken the skies globally and result in a miniature ice age that would last for a few years. During that time probably 30-60% of humanity will die of starvation or war over resources. It isn't one of those things that would end our species(unless it caused a nuclear war to break out over resources), but it would definitely set us back a good 50+ years. I guess you could theoretically prepare for it by maintaining a stock of food that could last you for 3-5 years. You'd also want a stock of seeds and farming supplies so you could start growing more food once conditions permitted it. In addition to those requirements you'd need a way to get clean water because all of the rivers and such would be fouled by the ash fallout. Then there's the issue of the hungry mobs that would be roaming around searching for supplies and the fact that the govt might declare marshal law and 'confiscate' your supplies and guns for the greater good of public order. Good luck with that Personally I'd just sit by the caldera in a lawn chair and watch one of the greatest fireworks displays we could ever see The third option is to become the leader of the hungry roaming mobs and build your empire and harem of soccer moms like the Apex Predator you are. http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_w61HI9ewCo/maxresdefault.jpg View Quote |
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Looking at the model, I guess we can't quite blame Canada. ... Montana's fault for sure.
I really need to stock up on my dust masks. |
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I saw many documentaries on if a super volcano were to erupt. GG guys
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