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Posted: 12/16/2013 3:05:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know it doesn't answer the question but at 42 years old, I can do 25 on a good day. http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/rock711/998590_10151660927887778_237174267_n_zps2d8ef7e4.jpg |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 4:44:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:ETA- my wife does ~20 deadhangs so she even beats most of you guys  What roids is she on? 
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Posted: 12/16/2013 4:49:35 PM EDT
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What roids is she on?
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Quoted:ETA- my wife does ~20 deadhangs so she even beats most of you guys What roids is she on?
That's seriously impressive. Just a good diet and hard work. A few years back she couldn't do any. Now shes well over 30 kipping and around 20 deadhangs. She also has a 300# deadlift 
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Posted: 12/16/2013 5:00:08 PM EDT
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You may be an exception, but in the fitness world, bodyweight exercises and weightlifting according to multiples of your bodyweight are not considered arbitrary because they scale with your body weight. Examples of what I consider a decent regular Joe baseline strength level - 10 pullups 40 pushups 1 rep 1x bodyweight bench press (meaning 1x your bodweight on the bar) 1 rep 1x bodyweight squat 1 rep 1.5x bodyweight deadlift 1 rep 0.5x bodyweight overhead press Quote HistoryQuoted:
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yes but it is not arbitrary...I am larger than most on hear in size... my experience level in physical confrontation is higher than most here (number of fights as a grown man due to job choices in my life)....I am not an MMA fighter, I am not a "weight lifter", I am not a bad ass but my ability to protect and provide for my family is above average. You may be an exception, but in the fitness world, bodyweight exercises and weightlifting according to multiples of your bodyweight are not considered arbitrary because they scale with your body weight. Examples of what I consider a decent regular Joe baseline strength level - 10 pullups 40 pushups 1 rep 1x bodyweight bench press (meaning 1x your bodweight on the bar) 1 rep 1x bodyweight squat 1 rep 1.5x bodyweight deadlift 1 rep 0.5x bodyweight overhead press All but the pull ups are easy for me, 5-6 at a time is my limit, less if I go wide arm. Watching barstarzz on YouTube is my motivation this year to help with pull ups and dips. |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 5:52:12 PM EDT
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Palms out is a lot harder for me. Palms in, a middle-aged man should be able to do about 5 or so without breaking something. Palms out is harder for everyone. <-- Pull ups Palms in is easier for everyone <-- Chin ups |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 5:54:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is a squat no longer a squat if you bring the weight down and do many reps? Is running no longer running if you run 400m instead of a marathon? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You folks bashing Crossfit-style kipping don't have a clue. It's a different exercise than dead-hang with different goals. The problem stems from them calling it a pull-up. If they called it a Cross Swing, no one would mention it. Is a squat no longer a squat if you bring the weight down and do many reps? Is running no longer running if you run 400m instead of a marathon? Apples to oranges. Lowering weight or distance doesn't change the definition of the exercise, only it's difficulty. A pull-up with a weight belt is still a pull-up, only more difficult. You aren't squatting if you don't lower the weight. You aren't running if you are walking. You aren't doing a pull-up if you are swinging in a circle. The Cross Swing may be a fantastic exercise, but it's not a pull-up. |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 5:57:44 PM EDT
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10 dead-hang pull-ups is a good baseline. I'd say 20+ would define a fit person. More impressive if they're wide grip as opposed to a narrow grip.
Kipping pull-ups are just flat-out stupid. Where in the real world would you ever flail like a dead fish to pull yourself up? |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 6:04:55 PM EDT
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Less than 10 and the individual is worthless.
20-40 for a decent man. |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 6:27:23 PM EDT
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The problem stems from them calling it a pull-up. If they called it a Cross Swing, no one would mention it. I'm not able to perform a hundred correct push-ups anymore. However, I can hold myself in the push-up position and rock back and forth one hundred times. I hereby declare correct push-ups to be called "dead hang push-ups", and the new push-ups I invented shall just be called push-ups. I can now perform one hundred push-ups again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You folks bashing Crossfit-style kipping don't have a clue. It's a different exercise than dead-hang with different goals. The problem stems from them calling it a pull-up. If they called it a Cross Swing, no one would mention it. I'm not able to perform a hundred correct push-ups anymore. However, I can hold myself in the push-up position and rock back and forth one hundred times. I hereby declare correct push-ups to be called "dead hang push-ups", and the new push-ups I invented shall just be called push-ups. I can now perform one hundred push-ups again. Bingo. That weird-looking Cross-fit thing might be a GREAT exercise, but it's not by any stretch of the definition a "pull up" |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 6:33:15 PM EDT
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What's funny is that I've known a lot of genuinely strong/fit people, and their pull up numbers are (on average) less than what most people here say should be average...
The joys of the internet. |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 6:34:11 PM EDT
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10 dead-hang pull-ups is a good baseline. I'd say 20+ would define a fit person. More impressive if they're wide grip as opposed to a narrow grip. Kipping pull-ups are just flat-out stupid. Where in the real world would you ever flail like a dead fish to pull yourself up? Where in the world do you ever have to strictly pull yourself up by your arms. 
I'm not going to defend the cross swing, but most applications that involve pulling yourself up, you could also use your feet to propel. |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 6:43:24 PM EDT
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Where in the world do you ever have to strictly pull yourself up by your arms.
I'm not going to defend the cross swing, but most applications that involve pulling yourself up, you could also use your feet to propel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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10 dead-hang pull-ups is a good baseline. I'd say 20+ would define a fit person. More impressive if they're wide grip as opposed to a narrow grip. Kipping pull-ups are just flat-out stupid. Where in the real world would you ever flail like a dead fish to pull yourself up? Where in the world do you ever have to strictly pull yourself up by your arms.
I'm not going to defend the cross swing, but most applications that involve pulling yourself up, you could also use your feet to propel. Scaling a wall? |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 6:52:59 PM EDT
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Apples to oranges. Lowering weight or distance doesn't change the definition of the exercise, only it's difficulty. A pull-up with a weight belt is still a pull-up, only more difficult. You aren't squatting if you don't lower the weight. You aren't running if you are walking. You aren't doing a pull-up if you are swinging in a circle. The Cross Swing may be a fantastic exercise, but it's not a pull-up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You folks bashing Crossfit-style kipping don't have a clue. It's a different exercise than dead-hang with different goals. The problem stems from them calling it a pull-up. If they called it a Cross Swing, no one would mention it. Is a squat no longer a squat if you bring the weight down and do many reps? Is running no longer running if you run 400m instead of a marathon? Apples to oranges. Lowering weight or distance doesn't change the definition of the exercise, only it's difficulty. A pull-up with a weight belt is still a pull-up, only more difficult. You aren't squatting if you don't lower the weight. You aren't running if you are walking. You aren't doing a pull-up if you are swinging in a circle. The Cross Swing may be a fantastic exercise, but it's not a pull-up. Wrong. The definition of a pull-up is nothing more than starting at full extension to chin over the bar.thats it. From there there are many variations. Weighted, dead hangs, kipping, L etc... Eta back before the usmc required dead hangs they used to allow kipping pull-ups. So your argument is that the usmc did not have pull-ups in the pft because kipping was allowed? |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 7:00:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2013 8:50:29 PM EDT
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Scaling a wall? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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10 dead-hang pull-ups is a good baseline. I'd say 20+ would define a fit person. More impressive if they're wide grip as opposed to a narrow grip. Kipping pull-ups are just flat-out stupid. Where in the real world would you ever flail like a dead fish to pull yourself up? Where in the world do you ever have to strictly pull yourself up by your arms.
I'm not going to defend the cross swing, but most applications that involve pulling yourself up, you could also use your feet to propel. Scaling a wall? I would still put my feet against wall and use my legs to help drive over. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 5:26:43 AM EDT
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This. A single set of a 10 unbroken is a good indicator of general fitness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At least 10. This. A single set of a 10 unbroken is a good indicator of general fitness. This. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 9:50:28 AM EDT
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10 dead-hang pull-ups is a good baseline. I'd say 20+ would define a fit person. More impressive if they're wide grip as opposed to a narrow grip. Kipping pull-ups are just flat-out stupid. Where in the real world would you ever flail like a dead fish to pull yourself up? Getting over an obstacle perhaps? When would you need to pull your self up unaided in the real world? Are you going to dead hang through an open window or over a fence? |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 9:51:44 AM EDT
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What's funny is that I've known a lot of genuinely strong/fit people, and their pull up numbers are (on average) less than what most people here say should be average... The joys of the internet. This. I'll bet there aren't more than 3 people posting in this thread than can do 10 dead hangs today. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 9:55:51 AM EDT
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I know it doesn't answer the question but at 42 years old, I can do 25 on a good day. <a href="http://s127.photobucket.com/user/rock711/media/998590_10151660927887778_237174267_n_zps2d8ef7e4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/rock711/998590_10151660927887778_237174267_n_zps2d8ef7e4.jpg</a> Friends don't let friends skip leg day... |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 9:59:54 AM EDT
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10 real ones. None of this bullshit bobbing up and down, or not fully extending.
Grab bar, pull up smoothly so chin is over bar, let down slowly until arms fully extended and the only muscles you use are your grip muscles (back relaxed/stretched). Then pull up. Repeat. So many fucking cheaters doing "pull-ups(ish)". These days my fat ass can do 0.
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Posted: 12/17/2013 10:10:29 AM EDT
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ill say at least 10, but ill also say most couldnt do more than 5
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Posted: 12/17/2013 10:14:21 AM EDT
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I would still put my feet against wall and use my legs to help drive over. And that would not be 'kipping' yourself up, but more of an assisted pull-up. Please illustrate how you would use the kipping motion against a wall. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 10:15:56 AM EDT
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Getting over an obstacle perhaps? When would you need to pull your self up unaided in the real world? Are you going to dead hang through an open window or over a fence? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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10 dead-hang pull-ups is a good baseline. I'd say 20+ would define a fit person. More impressive if they're wide grip as opposed to a narrow grip. Kipping pull-ups are just flat-out stupid. Where in the real world would you ever flail like a dead fish to pull yourself up? Getting over an obstacle perhaps? When would you need to pull your self up unaided in the real world? Are you going to dead hang through an open window or over a fence? Please explain how you will use the kipping motion while you are against a flat surface/wall? And yes, you can scale a wall by jumping up, grabbing the top, and pulling yourself up. 
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Posted: 12/17/2013 11:20:10 AM EDT
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Work a manual labor job in construction....I mean from footings to shingles and everything in between... everyday, 8 hrs, 5 days a week for 20+ years.
You do it if it's 90 degrees in sun to the -10 degrees with wind blowing snow up your ass. You get home, you're tired. As a builder you see endless projects around the house, so on your time off...you continue to build. Vacation is everyone else leaving...A day off consists of more building around the house or the Flu so bad you are a afraid to cough without shitting yourself. You get back to me after your elbows, shoulders, knees, ankles and wrists are all but destroyed and compare how much of a 'man' one is by what bullshit school yard exercises he can do. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 1:22:38 PM EDT
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Please explain how you will use the kipping motion while you are against a flat surface/wall? And yes, you can scale a wall by jumping up, grabbing the top, and pulling yourself up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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10 dead-hang pull-ups is a good baseline. I'd say 20+ would define a fit person. More impressive if they're wide grip as opposed to a narrow grip. Kipping pull-ups are just flat-out stupid. Where in the real world would you ever flail like a dead fish to pull yourself up? Getting over an obstacle perhaps? When would you need to pull your self up unaided in the real world? Are you going to dead hang through an open window or over a fence? Please explain how you will use the kipping motion while you are against a flat surface/wall? And yes, you can scale a wall by jumping up, grabbing the top, and pulling yourself up. Obviously you've never completed a Marine Corps obstacle course or scaled a wall.
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Posted: 12/17/2013 1:29:08 PM EDT
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Work a manual labor job in construction....I mean from footings to shingles and everything in between... everyday, 8 hrs, 5 days a week for 20+ years. You do it if it's 90 degrees in sun to the -10 degrees with wind blowing snow up your ass. You get home, you're tired. As a builder you see endless projects around the house, so on your time off...you continue to build. Vacation is everyone else leaving...A day off consists of more building around the house or the Flu so bad you are a afraid to cough without shitting yourself. You get back to me after your elbows, shoulders, knees, ankles and wrists are all but destroyed and compare how much of a 'man' one is by what bullshit school yard exercises he can do. My father made that mistake, I'll keep my body strong on my off time and take my chances working with inmates. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 1:34:40 PM EDT
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Obviously you've never completed a Marine Corps obstacle course or scaled a wall.
http://i43.tinypic.com/fonptl.png http://i42.tinypic.com/2i7a1s7.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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10 dead-hang pull-ups is a good baseline. I'd say 20+ would define a fit person. More impressive if they're wide grip as opposed to a narrow grip. Kipping pull-ups are just flat-out stupid. Where in the real world would you ever flail like a dead fish to pull yourself up? Getting over an obstacle perhaps? When would you need to pull your self up unaided in the real world? Are you going to dead hang through an open window or over a fence? Please explain how you will use the kipping motion while you are against a flat surface/wall? And yes, you can scale a wall by jumping up, grabbing the top, and pulling yourself up. Obviously you've never completed a Marine Corps obstacle course or scaled a wall.
http://i43.tinypic.com/fonptl.png http://i42.tinypic.com/2i7a1s7.jpg You can also use it to pull yourself onto an elevated platform. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 1:36:42 PM EDT
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This. I'll bet there aren't more than 3 people posting in this thread than can do 10 dead hangs today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's funny is that I've known a lot of genuinely strong/fit people, and their pull up numbers are (on average) less than what most people here say should be average... The joys of the internet. This. I'll bet there aren't more than 3 people posting in this thread than can do 10 dead hangs today. 
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Posted: 12/17/2013 1:38:01 PM EDT
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Work a manual labor job in construction....I mean from footings to shingles and everything in between... everyday, 8 hrs, 5 days a week for 20+ years. You do it if it's 90 degrees in sun to the -10 degrees with wind blowing snow up your ass. You get home, you're tired. As a builder you see endless projects around the house, so on your time off...you continue to build. Vacation is everyone else leaving...A day off consists of more building around the house or the Flu so bad you are a afraid to cough without shitting yourself. You get back to me after your elbows, shoulders, knees, ankles and wrists are all but destroyed and compare how much of a 'man' one is by what bullshit school yard exercises he can do. you sound fat. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 1:38:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong. The definition of a pull-up is nothing more than starting at full extension to chin over the bar.thats it. From there there are many variations. Weighted, dead hangs, kipping, L etc... Eta back before the usmc required dead hangs they used to allow kipping pull-ups. So your argument is that the usmc did not have pull-ups in the pft because kipping was allowed? I wasn't aware that the USMC performed the Cross Swing. We did pull-ups in the Army. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 1:41:09 PM EDT
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Work a manual labor job in construction....I mean from footings to shingles and everything in between... everyday, 8 hrs, 5 days a week for 20+ years. You do it if it's 90 degrees in sun to the -10 degrees with wind blowing snow up your ass. You get home, you're tired. As a builder you see endless projects around the house, so on your time off...you continue to build. Vacation is everyone else leaving...A day off consists of more building around the house or the Flu so bad you are a afraid to cough without shitting yourself. You get back to me after your elbows, shoulders, knees, ankles and wrists are all but destroyed and compare how much of a 'man' one is by what bullshit school yard exercises he can do. Sounds more like a mental problem.
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Posted: 12/17/2013 2:16:52 PM EDT
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This. I'll bet there aren't more than 3 people posting in this thread than can do 10 dead hangs today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's funny is that I've known a lot of genuinely strong/fit people, and their pull up numbers are (on average) less than what most people here say should be average... The joys of the internet. This. I'll bet there aren't more than 3 people posting in this thread than can do 10 dead hangs today. No video of dead hangs, but I stand by my claims made in my earlier post. 1 down, 2 to go
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Posted: 12/17/2013 2:21:41 PM EDT
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I wasn't aware that the USMC performed the Cross Swing. We did pull-ups in the Army. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wrong. The definition of a pull-up is nothing more than starting at full extension to chin over the bar.thats it. From there there are many variations. Weighted, dead hangs, kipping, L etc... Eta back before the usmc required dead hangs they used to allow kipping pull-ups. So your argument is that the usmc did not have pull-ups in the pft because kipping was allowed? I wasn't aware that the USMC performed the Cross Swing. We did pull-ups in the Army. Way before crossfit was even invented. You also may be surprised to know that the hated "kip" is a gymnastics skill. Crossfit didn't invent it. Crossfit didn't invent any movements that I'm aware of. So naming a kipping pullup a "cross swing" is actually pretty retarded. That's like saying a push-press isn't a press because you use leg drive and "cheat". A kipping pullup is still a pullup, you are just using hip drive. ETA- The Army did pullups in their test? Never seen it. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 2:27:42 PM EDT
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Haven't done one in a while. Going to head downstairs when I can(watching the kiddo today) and see how many I can do nonstop....
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Posted: 12/17/2013 2:33:09 PM EDT
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I know it doesn't answer the question but at 42 years old, I can do 25 on a good day. <a href="http://s127.photobucket.com/user/rock711/media/998590_10151660927887778_237174267_n_zps2d8ef7e4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/rock711/998590_10151660927887778_237174267_n_zps2d8ef7e4.jpg</a> Friends don't let friends skip leg day... You mean the fat guys who wear the ballerina costumes in the gym and couldn't run a mile if a bear was chasing them?
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Posted: 12/17/2013 4:30:45 PM EDT
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3X8 deadhangs after military press day last Saturday. Probably can do 12 with a warmup and no lifting beforehand.
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Posted: 12/17/2013 4:38:50 PM EDT
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Obviously you've never completed a Marine Corps obstacle course or scaled a wall.
http://i43.tinypic.com/fonptl.png http://i42.tinypic.com/2i7a1s7.jpg So free standing horizontal poles == wall But no USMC for me, you got me on the pull-up thing then?
And yes I have scaled walls, roughly 12' tall. You know how I pull myself up and over? By jumping up and grabbing the top and then pulling myself up and over, not by flailing my body like an idiot. All of the hardcore crossfit guys do it the same exact way (while making it look much easier).
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Posted: 12/17/2013 4:57:12 PM EDT
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Way before crossfit was even invented. You also may be surprised to know that the hated "kip" is a gymnastics skill. Crossfit didn't invent it. Crossfit didn't invent any movements that I'm aware of. So naming a kipping pullup a "cross swing" is actually pretty retarded. That's like saying a push-press isn't a press because you use leg drive and "cheat". A kipping pullup is still a pullup, you are just using hip drive. ETA- The Army did pullups in their test? Never seen it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wrong. The definition of a pull-up is nothing more than starting at full extension to chin over the bar.thats it. From there there are many variations. Weighted, dead hangs, kipping, L etc... Eta back before the usmc required dead hangs they used to allow kipping pull-ups. So your argument is that the usmc did not have pull-ups in the pft because kipping was allowed? I wasn't aware that the USMC performed the Cross Swing. We did pull-ups in the Army. Way before crossfit was even invented. You also may be surprised to know that the hated "kip" is a gymnastics skill. Crossfit didn't invent it. Crossfit didn't invent any movements that I'm aware of. So naming a kipping pullup a "cross swing" is actually pretty retarded. That's like saying a push-press isn't a press because you use leg drive and "cheat". A kipping pullup is still a pullup, you are just using hip drive. ETA- The Army did pullups in their test? Never seen it. Army: CO "Can you do a pull-up?" Soldier -"yes Sir, I think so." CO- "Good enough for me."
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Posted: 12/17/2013 6:26:52 PM EDT
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I'll bet there aren't more than 3 people posting in this thread than can do 10 dead hangs today. I can name three in this thread I have zero doubt can do 10 dead hangs. |
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Posted: 12/17/2013 6:46:45 PM EDT
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I'll bet there aren't more than 3 people posting in this thread than can do 10 dead hangs today. I can name three in this thread I have zero doubt can do 10 dead hangs.
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Posted: 12/17/2013 6:55:40 PM EDT
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I'll bet there aren't more than 3 people posting in this thread than can do 10 dead hangs today. I can name three in this thread I have zero doubt can do 10 dead hangs. I just did ten a few minutes ago. Do it every day. I'd like to get it to 15 or 20, but its 10-12 max at one time right now. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 3:54:27 AM EDT
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Bench press day to 195#. Did ten deadhangs after warmup.
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Posted: 12/18/2013 4:24:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/18/2013 4:28:25 AM EDT
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Girls do less than 20 and men do 20 and over
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Posted: 12/18/2013 4:36:06 AM EDT
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at least 87
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Posted: 12/18/2013 4:38:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Work a manual labor job in construction....I mean from footings to shingles and everything in between... everyday, 8 hrs, 5 days a week for 20+ years. You do it if it's 90 degrees in sun to the -10 degrees with wind blowing snow up your ass. You get home, you're tired. As a builder you see endless projects around the house, so on your time off...you continue to build. Vacation is everyone else leaving...A day off consists of more building around the house or the Flu so bad you are a afraid to cough without shitting yourself. You get back to me after your elbows, shoulders, knees, ankles and wrists are all but destroyed and compare how much of a 'man' one is by what bullshit school yard exercises he can do. You bristle at comparing strength as the measure of a man, then boast that you've ground your body down with shitty manual labor. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 4:40:20 AM EDT
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Well I would say you should be able to do at least 1 to pull yourself out of a life/death situation right? LOL, and an equestrian harness rigged for a sling load. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 5:32:16 AM EDT
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Way before crossfit was even invented. You also may be surprised to know that the hated "kip" is a gymnastics skill. Crossfit didn't invent it. Crossfit didn't invent any movements that I'm aware of. So naming a kipping pullup a "cross swing" is actually pretty retarded. That's like saying a push-press isn't a press because you use leg drive and "cheat". A kipping pullup is still a pullup, you are just using hip drive. ETA- The Army did pullups in their test? Never seen it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wrong. The definition of a pull-up is nothing more than starting at full extension to chin over the bar.thats it. From there there are many variations. Weighted, dead hangs, kipping, L etc... Eta back before the usmc required dead hangs they used to allow kipping pull-ups. So your argument is that the usmc did not have pull-ups in the pft because kipping was allowed? I wasn't aware that the USMC performed the Cross Swing. We did pull-ups in the Army. Way before crossfit was even invented. You also may be surprised to know that the hated "kip" is a gymnastics skill. Crossfit didn't invent it. Crossfit didn't invent any movements that I'm aware of. So naming a kipping pullup a "cross swing" is actually pretty retarded. That's like saying a push-press isn't a press because you use leg drive and "cheat". A kipping pullup is still a pullup, you are just using hip drive. ETA- The Army did pullups in their test? Never seen it. Well said. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 10:05:08 AM EDT
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So free standing horizontal poles == wall But no USMC for me, you got me on the pull-up thing then?
And yes I have scaled walls, roughly 12' tall. You know how I pull myself up and over? By jumping up and grabbing the top and then pulling myself up and over, not by flailing my body like an idiot. All of the hardcore crossfit guys do it the same exact way (while making it look much easier). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Obviously you've never completed a Marine Corps obstacle course or scaled a wall.
http://i43.tinypic.com/fonptl.png http://i42.tinypic.com/2i7a1s7.jpg So free standing horizontal poles == wall But no USMC for me, you got me on the pull-up thing then?
And yes I have scaled walls, roughly 12' tall. You know how I pull myself up and over? By jumping up and grabbing the top and then pulling myself up and over, not by flailing my body like an idiot. All of the hardcore crossfit guys do it the same exact way (while making it look much easier). Marines might climb obstacles on training courses which is fine, but in the real world with the US Army, I've scaled 12 foot security fence made of sharpened/barbed galvanized steel, while too drunk to walk, at night behind an ASDA store in Scotland to get back to my bunk 3 hours before work the next morning. True manly measure...
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Posted: 12/18/2013 10:13:30 AM EDT
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