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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:38:09 PM EST
[#1]
Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions.
Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:41:11 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve already fought my war. My step son is in the Air Force, my daughter is currently in Navy boot camp, and my other step son is joining the Army when he gets old enough. If you aren’t a leech, you serve. Give back to the country that gives you what you have. Or hide under a stairwell and let others fight for you. Fucking left-wing drivel. Many in Europe would be happy to hide under a stairwell and let Americans fight for them. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:41:34 PM EST
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Good grief at the idiocy in this thread. Anyone who would be on the side of sending Americans or American aid to Ukraine just boggles my mind on so many levels. Fuck any involvement there at any level. Fuck any draft at any level. Wake the fuck up rubes.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:48:11 PM EST
[#4]
Until the Hollywood, Washington DC, and NBA divisions are exhausted, don't even think about asking for my boys.
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:48:19 PM EST
[#5]
what a clown world this place has become
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Posted: 3/17/2022 11:55:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. Quoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. I am no fan of Nixon but do you have a source for that? Quoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. Quoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 12:09:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am no fan of Nixon but do you have a source for that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. Quoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. I am no fan of Nixon but do you have a source for that? Quoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. Quoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. prolly that vancouver news that you like. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 12:15:49 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. First they told me if I don’t get vaccinated I’ll die on a ventilator. Now they tell me I need to punish and fear Russia. I’m not buying it. Putin won’t do shit. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 12:23:12 AM EST
[#9]
I hope you're right, but do you have a source for Putin's sanity?
New York Times article on July 22, 1985. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 12:30:05 AM EST
[#10]
I was a battleship sailor in the 80's. Being young and dumb, we eagerly looked forward to taking on the commie bastards on the high seas and stomping their ass. That was an enemy that appeared to want world conquest and we had a commander in chief that we trusted and knew had our backs in President Reagan. After seeing what's happened over the last few years I have absolutely zero faith or trust in the clowns in charge to do what's right for America and our service members. Ukraine is absolutely not the hill for my sons to be sent to die on and anyone who demands they give their lives and futures so our corrupt elites can benefit from wars that are not existential for the survival of America can seriously fuck off and die. There are alot of absolutely stupid mother fucking shit birds on social media and even here who are brainwashed morons with no skin in the game (their own family) who would be gleeful to see our best sent into the meat grinder of an eastern European war between two corrupt shit stain countries.
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Posted: 3/18/2022 12:49:24 AM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As I have gotten older and seen just how corrupt the worlds politicians are and how much they benefit from war, my son will not be going to fight for them. Trust no one but yourself as only you know what is true to you. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 7:50:54 AM EST
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None of my kids will ever go off to support some pedo politician or left wing whacko. My brother and several other relatives were injured or killed in the VN and the ME conflict. Those that survived wound up getting shit on by the government. They suffered from lack of care and attention in the VA system. They were just medicated and warehoused until they left or expired.
Later the VA tried to shove them off into permanent civilian facilities so they could empty out their wards and reduce their patient count. When my brother was in the VA hospital for a long stretch the VA would stop his disability check (100% disabled). All his expenses were left to him to cope with…in other words they dropped in my lap since he had no other income. He eventually died and is at peace. None of my children will ever go in the military. I will send them to Canada or Europe first. It was a big joke during VN and later how the sons and daughters of politicians didn’t have any problem getting a military exemption. Nope, I am not sacrificing a child to protect/support Hillary or Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, or any other politician. I don’t view our young people as heros. I sadly see them as pawns and cannon fodder. Nobody you vote for really gives a shit if your children live or die, but they do care if they continue to suck from the govt tit. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 7:53:00 AM EST
[#13]
Everyone clamoring for a war with Russia, isn't going.
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Posted: 3/18/2022 8:00:37 AM EST
[#14]
Served for a lot of years. I enjoyed the work. 8/10 would do again.
However I have a problem with the US's foreign policy and war hawk elitests. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 8:52:39 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone clamoring for a war with Russia, isn't going. This, so far there's only been a handful of Arfcommers that went or are trying to go join the Ukrainian foreign legion. But there are way more "I'm too old, but we need to fight Russia", or "this site/members are pathetic cause they don't want to fight the commies" comments from arfcommers that want a right with Russia to stop the big bad bully, but won't even join the UFL. This guy is serving in Ukraine, what's their real excuse. 
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Posted: 3/18/2022 9:08:58 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking left-wing drivel. Many in Europe would be happy to hide under a stairwell and let Americans fight for them. Good, then it makes it easier to take over their country and drain it of resources. I don’t agree with what our government does. I do not agree with all of the fighting overseas. I do realize it is all about the money and control. I still believe. I will always believe. And I may need the skills my kids bring back from their military service one day. I still believe it is a good place to get started, even with all of the bullshit regulations and diversity crap. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 9:16:52 AM EST
[#17]
As someone who thinks for themselves.
Blind patriotism is exactly that. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 9:19:10 AM EST
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Posted: 3/18/2022 10:42:04 AM EST
[#19]
We don't draft.
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Posted: 3/18/2022 11:35:26 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't worry about going overseas to fight. If Vladimir Putin is feels totally cornered by our sanctions. Your guys future will be: 1. Incinerated in your house or work location 2. Die days or weeks later of radiation sickness due to fallout exposure 3. Die months later from starvation maybe wandering helplessly blinded by radiation flash. 4. Die from self inflicted gunshot below the chin because you miss gaming and the internet When Nixon was on the edge and commented that he could order the world destroyed, the Secretary of Defense ordered SAC and the Navy to refuse orders directly from the President for now. Hope the Russian commanders do the same. Maybe General Milley will call Putin and warn him the Biden is ready to launch. |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 1:25:31 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We don't draft. Yet... |
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Posted: 3/18/2022 1:46:19 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These threads went very differently 19-20 years ago. There's been a lot of shit brought to light in that time span. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:29:12 AM EST
[#23]
Containing this conflict using all elements of national power and alliances ought to be the top priority.
Support Ukrainian resistance against the Russians- I’m for that too. Make the Russians bleed for this. Direct intervention/die in some Eastern European apocalypse, no thanks. That would be a colossal mistake. Dudes who want to help/didn’t get enough in the last two wars should go to Poland and volunteer to assist with the humanitarian crisis. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:42:46 AM EST
[#24]
I will consider going right after all the politicians and their loved ones go
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:48:00 AM EST
[#25]
We'll never have another draft. They could try but nearly no one would go. We don't have the resources to put 60 million people in prison for not going, either.
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Posted: 3/20/2022 8:15:40 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As I have gotten older and seen just how corrupt the worlds politicians are and how much they benefit from war, my son will not be going to fight for them. I feel the same way. I've told my son that he won't die because stupid people put an unqualified moron in the Oval Office. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 10:15:26 PM EST
[#27]
All I want to see is full combat divisions of feminist women showing us men how it's done.
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Posted: 3/20/2022 10:43:59 PM EST
[#28]
My kids won't be going anywhere. The enemy is on our own soil.
Y'all gung ho warhawks need to lay off the Dubya-Emm-Dees, and start acting like American patriots. |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 10:48:16 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've already fought my war. My step son is in the Air Force, my daughter is currently in Navy boot camp, and my other step son is joining the Army when he gets old enough. If you aren't a leech, you serve. Give back to the country that gives you what you have. Or hide under a stairwell and let others fight for you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:  Go join the foreign legion. Don't volunteer other peoples blood. Good luck.I've already fought my war. My step son is in the Air Force, my daughter is currently in Navy boot camp, and my other step son is joining the Army when he gets old enough. If you aren't a leech, you serve. Give back to the country that gives you what you have. Or hide under a stairwell and let others fight for you. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 1:05:48 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, a man with two step kids giving life advice. Dude, that's a low blow. 
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:48:24 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what a clown world this place has become Always has been. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:50:10 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let the politicians kids be first ones leading the charge out of the trenches. No deferment cuz daddy is connected. Let the Equity battle start with them. This. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:50:45 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As I have gotten older and seen just how corrupt the worlds politicians are and how much they benefit from war, my son will not be going to fight for them. Yup. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:54:36 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As I have gotten older and seen just how corrupt the worlds politicians are and how much they benefit from war, my son will not be going to fight for them. Yup. In my 20s' I was dumber than dick. Now I have seen the sheer ignorance of our politicians and their greed for power and money. No way in hell would I send an Offspring to War for these Fuckers, Republican or Democrat. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 11:53:32 AM EST
[#35]
Pretty cowardly.
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Posted: 3/21/2022 12:10:32 PM EST
[#36]
As true heroes, not capitalist, brainwashed stooges.
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Posted: 3/21/2022 12:23:52 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My opinions and views of the country we live in, have completely overturned in the past few years. My views of the country remain the same. My views of the *government* have changed. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 12:37:10 PM EST
[#38]
if the selective service roster is used for a draft and someone avoids it, i'm fine with that
i just need them to get the fuck out of the USA and live somewhere else forever |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:48:24 PM EST
[#39]
Smart. There is no more fighting for this country unless we are attacked on our soil. I am a vet of 1 "war" and one police action
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:50:09 PM EST
[#40]
 When Ya Get Drafted Sometimes the ones that send you aren’t worth the sacrifice. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:01:36 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: if the selective service roster is used for a draft and someone avoids it, i'm fine with that i just need them to get the fuck out of the USA and live somewhere else forever Free people are not conscripted into servitude to the state, |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:08:32 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Conscientious objection is a valid reason to not fight. That said, unless you are in that category legitimately while serving in the military, refusing to fight in a declared war should be treated like it is- cowardice in face of the enemy. Notwithstanding the above, we need to keep our big noses OUT of foreign wars that do not directly affect American lives and the United States homeland, including US territories. Got two military sons. They are patriots. And they are intelligent and know WTF is going on in this messed up world right now. I don't want them being canon fodder for BULLSHIT wars designed to put money in some DC fucker's pockets. Fuck all of that horseshit. It is NOT patriotic to knowingly be used as a fucking tool by some POS politician to further enrich himself and further erode the standing of America in the world. The Founding Father's were intelligent... and they warned us about this military industrial complex bullshit. America is about to "rah rah patriot" itself right out of 1st and 2nd world status. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:10:10 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These threads went very differently 19-20 years ago. Many of us were gullible, naive, and stupid. [I sure as hell was] |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:14:04 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cowards and traitors. You mean the fucks in DC who send good men and women to their deaths to put $$$ in their pockets? I sure as fuck hope that's what you're saying. My boys aren't cowards or traitors. Anyone who would call them that sure as hell is. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:19:14 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: if the selective service roster is used for a draft and someone avoids it, i'm fine with that i just need them to get the fuck out of the USA and live somewhere else forever If you're still clueless enough to blindly rush good young men and women towards an effed-up plot to enrich some globalist POS, then you need to GTFO of this country. People who are still so blinded at this point are the problem. This ain't your grandfather's American military. It's a fucked-up rackets, run by DC mafia bosses. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:22:42 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty cowardly. Hmmm... user country checks out. Btw... I despise putin and want the Ukeranian people to repel that piece of shit. But there is so much bullshit coming from both sides right now, I would be a pretty horrible, ignorant father if I wanted my sons sent over there. If they WANTED to go there, then that would be their choice and I would respect that. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:25:49 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean the fucks in DC who send good men and women to their deaths to put $$$ in their pockets? I sure as fuck hope that's what you're saying. My boys aren't cowards or traitors. Anyone who would call them that sure as hell is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cowards and traitors. You mean the fucks in DC who send good men and women to their deaths to put $$$ in their pockets? I sure as fuck hope that's what you're saying. My boys aren't cowards or traitors. Anyone who would call them that sure as hell is. If they're called and don't go...despite your rationalizations...the description fits. It has always been so. No soldier has ever been asked for their opinion on any particular conflict. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:29:12 PM EST
[#48]
I won’t think anything of them.
I’ll be one of them. Won’t get me and you won’t get my family. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:33:27 PM EST
[#49]
Let's set aside all this morality based angst for a while and look long and hard at Ukraine.
What economic or military benefit does the U.S. derive from an independent Ukraine? Is it worth an investment of blood and treasure? I'm thinking the answer is "no" but but perhaps I'm missing something. I know it's terrible and Russians eat babies and stuff but does this make dollars and sense? |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:40:33 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they're called and don't go...despite your rationalizations...the description fits. It has always been so. No soldier has ever been asked for their opinion on any particular conflict. Get thine ass to Ukraine and fight for the Biden family fortune. Don't fucking lie to me and tell me that it's for America. Only a goddamned FOOL could still think that getting involved in something like this is in America's interest. If my sons are sent to war, I will be proud of them for standing tall (just like I was proud of them for enlisting). But I'll be damned if I would lie to them by trying to blow smoke up their asses and waving the flag. Shit is beyond fucked-up right now. They can put their lives on the line, repelling the invasion from the south. THAT is a patriotic war! But nah... let's send our sons to enrich corrupt politicians. |
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