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We normally do our grocery shopping on Friday, but decided to go this afternoon instead just to beat part of the rush.
Holy crap. You'd think the world is ending Monday. Packed with people losing their shit over the smallest things. Berating the Publix staff because the water was all gone, etc. This is in Seminole, well away from the beach. It really won't be that bad here. |
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ft pierce home depot just got in a trailer load of osb, and a trailer load of plywood. propane still plentiful on oleander, at amerigas, citgo at virginia & okeechobee and tractor supply. tractor supply will be getting a truckload shipment of generators in the morning. lines were pretty small at walmart, and home depot as well. still plenty of food, water, batteries, etc, on the shelves. gas stations all had normal amounts of traffic. i'm doing shutters today, so i can "coast" the rest of the waiting time. haven't observed a single place doing shutters yet. in this area, people typically wait until the first bands of the storm are hitting.
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I seriously can't understand how people who live in Florida, or really anywhere there can be a natural disaster, aren't prepared. My house in Florida has a 10,000w Honda generator, a 2000w Honda generator and 1500w Honda generator. We always have multiple cases of water on hand, a 25 gallon tank of gas (for the boats anyways) on hand, plus gas cans. It all gets cycled through the boats. Let alone 3 tanks of propane for the grill, charcoal of the Big green egg, etc. Like this isn't a surprise people. View Quote |
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I filled my generator's 7 gallon tank this morning, then stumbled on an old, unused 5 gallon gas can in a dark corner of the garage. Picked up 12 more gallons of gas this morning, giving me 27 gallons total. I was out of power for 13 days after Irma, I supposes this one is likely to be even worse View Quote |
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ft pierce home depot just got in a trailer load of osb, and a trailer load of plywood. propane still plentiful on oleander, at amerigas, citgo at virginia & okeechobee and tractor supply. tractor supply will be getting a truckload shipment of generators in the morning. lines were pretty small at walmart, and home depot as well. still plenty of food, water, batteries, etc, on the shelves. gas stations all had normal amounts of traffic. i'm doing shutters today, so i can "coast" the rest of the waiting time. haven't observed a single place doing shutters yet. in this area, people typically wait until the first bands of the storm are hitting. View Quote |
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So the dual-fuel generator I ordered from Home Depot is being shipped, should be at the store between tomorrow and Tuesday.
Place your bets as to whether some dipshit manager receives it, doesn't see that it's a ship-to-store for a customer, and places it on the floor where it gets sold. |
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We normally do our grocery shopping on Friday, but decided to go this afternoon instead just to beat part of the rush. Holy crap. You'd think the world is ending Monday. Packed with people losing their shit over the smallest things. Berating the Publix staff because the water was all gone, etc. This is in Seminole, well away from the beach. It really won't be that bad here. View Quote |
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I'm in Seminole. Was this the Publix on 113th? Try the Publix hidden away on Oakhurst, near Seminole High/Middle Schools. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We normally do our grocery shopping on Friday, but decided to go this afternoon instead just to beat part of the rush. Holy crap. You'd think the world is ending Monday. Packed with people losing their shit over the smallest things. Berating the Publix staff because the water was all gone, etc. This is in Seminole, well away from the beach. It really won't be that bad here. |
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I seriously can't understand how people who live in Florida, or really anywhere there can be a natural disaster, aren't prepared. My house in Florida has a 10,000w Honda generator, a 2000w Honda generator and 1500w Honda generator. We always have multiple cases of water on hand, a 25 gallon tank of gas (for the boats anyways) on hand, plus gas cans. It all gets cycled through the boats. Let alone 3 tanks of propane for the grill, charcoal of the Big green egg, etc. Like this isn't a surprise people. View Quote Why doesn't everyone in FL have this? It's a mystery... |
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I seriously can't understand how people who live in Florida, or really anywhere there can be a natural disaster, aren't prepared. My house in Florida has a 10,000w Honda generator, a 2000w Honda generator and 1500w Honda generator. We always have multiple cases of water on hand, a 25 gallon tank of gas (for the boats anyways) on hand, plus gas cans. It all gets cycled through the boats. Let alone 3 tanks of propane for the grill, charcoal of the Big green egg, etc. Like this isn't a surprise people. View Quote Dude. 87% of our population is constantly turning over. The state went almost 10 years with out a major storm. There was folks who moved here in 07' that didnt get there cherry popped until 2016 more or less. The mass exodus from south Florida when they got a scare proves that. But yeah , being prepared is basic commonsense. Few flats of water, 20$ in can goods, a gas grill, and a 400$ generator puts you light years ahead of everything. Part of the mass hysteria is information is instant. 20+ years ago..unless you had a tv at work or radio. You crossed your fingers waiting for the 6 o'clock news. |
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I seriously can't understand how people who live in Florida, or really anywhere there can be a natural disaster, aren't prepared. My house in Florida has a 10,000w Honda generator, a 2000w Honda generator and 1500w Honda generator. We always have multiple cases of water on hand, a 25 gallon tank of gas (for the boats anyways) on hand, plus gas cans. It all gets cycled through the boats. Let alone 3 tanks of propane for the grill, charcoal of the Big green egg, etc. Like this isn't a surprise people. View Quote While I agree that it makes sense to have(and you really should) a couple cases of water- or at least a few 2.5gal jugs sitting in a closet, and a week's worth of food that won't spoil (oatmeal, soup, etc.) there are real limits to what most people can afford. Lots of folks can't tie up $500 in a generator to just have it sit in a box for years....just in case. Or they don't have a place to store it. I know.....they should just be poor somewhere else. |
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I agree with the being prepared part, but did you just humblebrag about having two homes, $7K in generators, and one or more boats? Why doesn't everyone in FL have this? It's a mystery... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I seriously can't understand how people who live in Florida, or really anywhere there can be a natural disaster, aren't prepared. My house in Florida has a 10,000w Honda generator, a 2000w Honda generator and 1500w Honda generator. We always have multiple cases of water on hand, a 25 gallon tank of gas (for the boats anyways) on hand, plus gas cans. It all gets cycled through the boats. Let alone 3 tanks of propane for the grill, charcoal of the Big green egg, etc. Like this isn't a surprise people. Why doesn't everyone in FL have this? It's a mystery... As for a humble brag, sure. I guess it is. A lot of people instantly hate me for simply who I am. It’s fine, I’m used to it. But those who know me and are around me know I go out of my way to help who I can. I’ve hauled my excavator to arfcommers houses to clean up after a storm, or help cut firewood. I’ve given money to help arfcommers and their family’s. Etc. But I’ll shut up and watch now. As the storm is going to be 400+ miles away from me. |
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We normally do our grocery shopping on Friday, but decided to go this afternoon instead just to beat part of the rush. Holy crap. You'd think the world is ending Monday. Packed with people losing their shit over the smallest things. Berating the Publix staff because the water was all gone, etc. This is in Seminole, well away from the beach. It really won't be that bad here. View Quote |
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Because most people can't afford to have a stack of 2-300 $100 bills laying around getting less and less valuable every year. While I agree that it makes sense to have(and you really should) a couple cases of water- or at least a few 2.5gal jugs sitting in a closet, and a week's worth of food that won't spoil (oatmeal, soup, etc.) there are real limits to what most people can afford. Lots of folks can't tie up $500 in a generator to just have it sit in a box for years....just in case. Or they don't have a place to store it. I know.....they should just be poor somewhere else. View Quote As far as water goes if you have enough for week that should about do it till FEMA gets cranked-up.....Hell, buy a few Life Straws for that matter. |
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For the life of me I don't understand why people don't stock up on water at the beginning of the season. View Quote |
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What do you locals recommend for someone vacationing in the Venice Florida area?
Was planning on driving back to MD on Tuesday, but that will likely change now. |
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What do you locals recommend for someone vacationing in the Venice Florida area? Was planning on driving back to MD on Tuesday, but that will likely change now. View Quote |
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Because most people can't afford to have a stack of 2-300 $100 bills laying around getting less and less valuable every year. While I agree that it makes sense to have(and you really should) a couple cases of water- or at least a few 2.5gal jugs sitting in a closet, and a week's worth of food that won't spoil (oatmeal, soup, etc.) there are real limits to what most people can afford. Lots of folks can't tie up $500 in a generator to just have it sit in a box for years....just in case. Or they don't have a place to store it. I know.....they should just be poor somewhere else. View Quote |
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ft pierce home depot just got in a trailer load of osb, and a trailer load of plywood. propane still plentiful on oleander, at amerigas, citgo at virginia & okeechobee and tractor supply. tractor supply will be getting a truckload shipment of generators in the morning. lines were pretty small at walmart, and home depot as well. still plenty of food, water, batteries, etc, on the shelves. gas stations all had normal amounts of traffic. i'm doing shutters today, so i can "coast" the rest of the waiting time. haven't observed a single place doing shutters yet. in this area, people typically wait until the first bands of the storm are hitting. View Quote |
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Just got the call, loading up some crews for FL, probably wait to see which way it swings before heading out though.
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I seem to remember someone here that had no gas and was in a panic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The media is really getting everyone in a frenzy over this one. Lots of new arrivals in Florida that arrived in the past couple years who never experienced a hurricane are in complete and utter hysteria. I'm sure all the people that offered to help won't. |
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I seriously can't understand how people who live in Florida, or really anywhere there can be a natural disaster, aren't prepared. My house in Florida has a 10,000w Honda generator, a 2000w Honda generator and 1500w Honda generator. We always have multiple cases of water on hand, a 25 gallon tank of gas (for the boats anyways) on hand, plus gas cans. It all gets cycled through the boats. Let alone 3 tanks of propane for the grill, charcoal of the Big green egg, etc. Like this isn't a surprise people. View Quote |
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Best of luck to you guys in Florida. Hurricane Ike taught me that windstorm codes work but water will tear stuff up. Harvey taught me how bad it sucks to get water in the house.
Our house is fortunate in one way: it is on the same power grid as the local field office for the power company, the National Weather service Doppler radar and the county emergency management office. |
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i realize i am crazy, but I am, in some way, oddly happy to not be in the generator scramble. I do have one, a small ryobi propane genny, for my CPAP and electric devices. I also have a few portable solar rigs. But aside from a portable AC (which i dont have room for, nor can afford), i am not sure what else i would need to run my genny on. Is it because i am prepared to do without fridge and AC for a short while?
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I understand that cases of water bottles are nice, but doesn't anyone else have 5gal jugs for water they can simply fill now? I have six of them and will fill them sometime in the next day or two.
I guess everyone used to have the jugs, but the cases of water are so easy. |
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Man the weather channel sure is making sure the hysteria is strong with this storm.
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08-29-2019 Ave Maria, Florida, Gas station out of gas and stores out of water |
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i realize i am crazy, but I am, in some way, oddly happy to not be in the generator scramble. I do have one, a small ryobi propane genny, for my CPAP and electric devices. I also have a few portable solar rigs. But aside from a portable AC (which i dont have room for, nor can afford), i am not sure what else i would need to run my genny on. Is it because i am prepared to do without fridge and AC for a short while? View Quote I throw several 10lb bags of ice into our freezer in advance, then move ice as necessary to a cooler filled with bottles of water so we can stay hydrated and cooled. I also freeze about 50 bottles of water in the freezer in advance so they can be used as giant ice cubes. During Irma, I could take a frozen bottle of water and thaw it in about 20 minutes just by rolling it on my forehead. It was hot as HELL here for that week after Irma. |
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i realize i am crazy, but I am, in some way, oddly happy to not be in the generator scramble. I do have one, a small ryobi propane genny, for my CPAP and electric devices. I also have a few portable solar rigs. But aside from a portable AC (which i dont have room for, nor can afford), i am not sure what else i would need to run my genny on. Is it because i am prepared to do without fridge and AC for a short while? View Quote |
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EdwardAvila - you need to ask and consider what the hurricane plans are if you have a cat 3 moving close or over the island you're on. if you are on the water with no elevation, I'd ask if you're likely to get wind blown surge and high waves and flooding View Quote We did just go rent a car in case we needed to move (while dropping off the rest of our guests at the airport), or so we can survey and move around afterwards. Sitting in the main path with no options is a bit of a gamble... will pack the car with redundant supplies and have it deadly to go if needed, though other than getting inland on a very narrow island is not any better than sitting inside the house. If water comes up, that’s another story. Hopefully it hits Sunday morning vs Saturday night so we can see. Most frustrating thing will be lack of power afterwards so I can update everyone, as I suspect that may be a few days and hopefully not longer. |
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the forecast discussions are easy to read, and give an idea of what is influencing the forecast and what might be coming.
'Aircraft and satellite fixes show that Dorian is moving northwestward, or 325 degrees at 11 kt. Dorian is forecast to continue moving northwestward during the next 24-36 hours between an upper-level low that will be dropping southwestward across the Florida Straits and a mid-level ridge to the northeast of the hurricane. After that time, a ridge is forecast to build to the north of Dorian, which should cause the track to bend back toward the west-northwest. The track guidance becomes more divergent beyond 72 hours, primarily due to model differences in the strength of the ridge and whether a weakness develops in the ridge late in the period.' upper level low - a cold, low pressure system that extends from the upper atmosphere, to the surface troughs and ridges - troughs are long areas of low pressure. on a surface pressure weather map, they eastern side is associated with weather fronts and rain. ridges are areas of high pressure. they are associated with good weather, and dry air. you can generally see where troughs and ridges are by looking at surface analysis pressure maps, such as found here https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/ but they can be cluttered and hard to interpret at times. an easier way to see where the troughs and ridges are, is by looking at a 500mb chart. 500mb is the considered half way up in the atmosphere, and the elevation where the jet stream is. on a 500mb chart, the lines will have a number, showing how high above sea level, up in the atmosphere a pressure of 500mb is found. a higher number means higher up in the atmosphere and an area of high pressure, a lower number means an area of lower pressure. you can see troughs as a u shape in the lines, and ridges as an upside down u, for example here Attached File a link to some forecast that extend out into the atlantic is https://ocean.weather.gov/Atl_tab.php hurricanes move into troughs, and if it feels the jet stream, get blown to the north and northeast ridges block the northward movement of hurricanes, and cause a movement to the west the strengthening of the ridge is what prevents any northward movement of the system, and resulting in a southward movement of the path in the hurricane discussion, it talks about a weakness in the ridge, influencing what the forecast of the path will be. you can see it as the trough that shows up in the day 3 and 4 image here Attached File |
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So the dual-fuel generator I ordered from Home Depot is being shipped, should be at the store between tomorrow and Tuesday. Place your bets as to whether some dipshit manager receives it, doesn't see that it's a ship-to-store for a customer, and places it View Quote |
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I've never understood this "buying bottled water" phenomena.
Do people not wash out and save some 1gal containers, which previously held OJ, during the year? I bet I've got about a dozen 1/2 gal ones too. Do people also not realize that gallon freezer bags also can be filled with water? I bet I can top off all of them in less than 1/2 an hour for a penny or two. Any of the above can also be frozen (only fill to 3/4 to allow for expansion) and used as block ice. |
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I've never understood this "buying bottled water" phenomena. Do people not wash out and save some 1gal containers, which previously held OJ, during the year? I bet I've got about a dozen 1/2 gal ones too. Do people also not realize that gallon freezer bags also can be filled with water? I bet I can top off all of them in less than 1/2 an hour for a penny or two. Any of the above can also be frozen (only fill to 3/4 to allow for expansion) and used as block ice. View Quote I'd rather have several large 4-gallon jugs, or several 6-packs of gallon jugs, than a shitload of 12-oz bottles. Plus it's generally cheaper to get a bunch of gallon jugs than to get the same amount of water in individual bottles. We do keep a couple of flats of 12oz bottles to freeze in advance. |
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Quoted: We are right on the water (actually on the very tip of a peninsula so we have water on all sides). Maybe 10-15 feet? from sea level. There are no high spots in the Bahamas. We are literally on the "point" at Treasure Cay. We did just go rent a car in case we needed to move (while dropping off the rest of our guests at the airport), or so we can survey and move around afterwards. Sitting in the main path with no options is a bit of a gamble... will pack the car with redundant supplies and have it deadly to go if needed, though other than getting inland on a very narrow island is not any better than sitting inside the house. If water comes up, that's another story. Hopefully it hits Sunday morning vs Saturday night so we can see. Most frustrating thing will be lack of power afterwards so I can update everyone, as I suspect that may be a few days and hopefully not longer. View Quote the image of the wind fields has been posted earlier. it's off the navy weather site which shows circles with the extent of 34,50, and 64 knot winds. it is here dorian forecast Attached File good luck |
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I understand that cases of water bottles are nice, but doesn't anyone else have 5gal jugs for water they can simply fill now? I have six of them and will fill them sometime in the next day or two. I guess everyone used to have the jugs, but the cases of water are so easy. View Quote |
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if anybody is out there looking for bottled water and cannot find it at Sams, Walmart, or the grocery stores, don't forget to check office supply stores like Staples and OfficeMax/OfficeDepot. They carry bottled and jugged water too, and most people might not think of those.
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I've never understood this "buying bottled water" phenomena. Do people not wash out and save some 1gal containers, which previously held OJ, during the year? I bet I've got about a dozen 1/2 gal ones too. Do people also not realize that gallon freezer bags also can be filled with water? I bet I can top off all of them in less than 1/2 an hour for a penny or two. Any of the above can also be frozen (only fill to 3/4 to allow for expansion) and used as block ice. View Quote The frozen bottles last longer, than cube ice. Plus cube ice is fir cocktails... |
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Quoted: My single room portable ac was maybe $150. I see them for $100-200 all the time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: My single room portable ac was maybe $150. I see them for $100-200 all the time. Quoted:
I've never understood this "buying bottled water" phenomena. Do people not wash out and save some 1gal containers, which previously held OJ, during the year? I bet I've got about a dozen 1/2 gal ones too. Do people also not realize that gallon freezer bags also can be filled with water? I bet I can top off all of them in less than 1/2 an hour for a penny or two. Any of the above can also be frozen (only fill to 3/4 to allow for expansion) and used as block ice. |
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Hot water heater tanks also contain 40 gallons of useable water.
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Quoted: Now you are going to cause a run on the OSB by all of those transplants that didn't remember that! View Quote at some point we'll replace them one at a time, with impact rated stuff. we'll keep the shutters anyways. today is a good day to take a lawn chair and a cooler of beverages to home depot (or lowes) and sit back and enjoy the show. (sort of like a boat ramp, on labor day) there will be people stacking 10 sheets of osb onto the roof of their prius, and using the home depot twine to secure it. |
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