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Posted: 4/22/2019 9:42:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/15596/say_when_jpg-920529.JPG I figure I can take at least 3-4 with me. Of course, I'm 60 years old now & not as good a shooter as I once was. But that's 3-4 who won't be going to the next guy.  And I feel the same way. They'll get me sure, but there'll be one less on the bus on their way home too. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 9:46:17 AM EDT
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To all of those wondering how that sort of transformation happens I highly recommend you read this book.
It’s highly relevant to the times today 
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Posted: 4/22/2019 9:52:37 AM EDT
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We all have the illusion of freedom , but that's all it is.
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:04:31 AM EDT
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It took less than 3 years for the Nazis to subvert a coalition government and turn it into a totalitarian dictatorshipship that put people in camps... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:06:42 AM EDT
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We all have the illusion of freedom , but that's all it is. What disturbs me the most, is how westerners have just sort of accepted it. The story about the kid in New Zealand that was arrested for downloading the shooter's manifesto, and various people in the UK being arrested for speech violations, those really bother me. I guess when it comes to free speech I'm somewhat of a radical. I don't even believe in the censorship of ugly or mean words, or distasteful, or racist ideas. Words and ideas shouldn't be restricted. Also the New Zealand's government refusing to release the name of the shooter bothered me. On this forum many supported that. I don't EVER think the government should be able to "disappear" someone. I don't care what they are accused of, or did. That's getting damn near black bagging people. I also don't like secret courts, and "special prisons". People accept them because they believe they'll only be used for bad people, and terrorists. Once people get use to governments black bagging bad people, holding them in special prisons, trying them in secret courts, it's just a small step away form very bad things happening. One day someone you know is black bagged, and everyone just assumes he must have done something "bad", and accepts it. People in government shouldn't be trusted with that kind of power. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:08:53 AM EDT
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"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward." Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 19181956 |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:11:55 AM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:12:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:13:05 AM EDT
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I’d say we’re more in a full blown state of Weimar
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:14:32 AM EDT
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Lol. Fascists eschewed religion, sexism and were the labor party, seizing control of production. More than half of that sign is bullshit revision history. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Lol. Fascists eschewed religion, sexism and were the labor party, seizing control of production. More than half of that sign is bullshit revision history. 
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:14:35 AM EDT
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I’d say we’re more in a full blown state of Weimar |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:16:27 AM EDT
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Shit can all be traced back to a single man.
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:18:13 AM EDT
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Who says it will be the Jews this time? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:19:44 AM EDT
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Something that many ITT ignore or do not realize is that many Germans wanted a single strong leader. They got more than they bargained for .
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:19:54 AM EDT
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Anyone who has read 20 or so books about Europe at war 1914-1945, knows that we are repeating that shit here in USA. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:22:40 AM EDT
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And that's not real.
where's the "Book Burning". There's no book burning. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:23:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess when it comes to free speech I'm somewhat of a radical. I don't even believe in the censorship of ugly or mean words, or distasteful, or racist ideas. Words and ideas shouldn't be restricted. 
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:25:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The point was that we aren't anywhere close to that yet. We seem to be gaining gun rights lately. CA got truckloads of mags recently, and NY just got tasers. Small steps in the right direction. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:27:06 AM EDT
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And that's not real. where's the "Book Burning". There's no book burning. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:28:13 AM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? The Yellow Star was to identify the Jews to the government. The government today doesn't need you to wear a star, they know who you are and where you are. The state of surveillance in today's world is so vast and powerful, it would make the NAZIs and Soviets jealous. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:29:01 AM EDT
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First they came for the standard capacity mags in NY, NJ, California and Maryland but I did not live in NY, NJ, California and Maryland so I did not speak up.
Then they came for the bumpstocks but I did not speak up because I did not own a bump stock. Then they came for the binary triggers but I did not speak up because I did not own a binary trigger. Then they came for those who were Red Flagged but I did not speak up because I was not Red Flagged. Then they came for me and nobody was left to speak up. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:33:14 AM EDT
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"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward." Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 19181956 |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:35:49 AM EDT
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That's not radical. That's basic 1st Amendment stuff. Of course the sarcasm may have gone over my head.
@Qweevox The 2nd amendment was put in place to protect our individual rights if all else fails. That won't matter if we allow the bill of rights to be trampled over, and continue to allow the judicial end-arounds to happen. The 4th Amendment is already just a symbolic joke. At most it's a minor bureaucratic exercise to overcome. The slow creep of infringement has been moving forward since before the ink was dry on the Bill of Rights. People just accept it, in the name of security. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:37:57 AM EDT
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First they take your guns. Then they take the rest. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:39:55 AM EDT
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It’s already happening bro Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And that's not real. where's the "Book Burning". There's no book burning. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 10:40:36 AM EDT
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There was a documentry back in 1987. “Amerika”
How did the communist take over? We voted them in. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 11:07:03 AM EDT
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There was a documentry back in 1987. “Amerika” How did the communist take over? We voted them in. Amerika 01 (of 13) |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 11:17:52 AM EDT
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At least we have guns, Europe has some guns but they’re propper fucked if they can't even see that their representatives have sold them out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: BItching about it on American gun forums is all I got. You don't need guns, all you need is solidarity and a will to stand. Here in the US for example, if every single gun owner marched on WA DC, unarmed, and proclaimed they're not going to work, not paying their taxes, and not moving until our rights are affirmed, change would happen, and fast. Ghandi was the ultimate example of what can happen when people simply stand together. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 11:24:39 AM EDT
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It took less than 3 years for the Nazis to subvert a coalition government and turn it into a totalitarian dictatorshipship that put people in camps... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? She said it was wonderful at first. Everyone had jobs, everyone had beer money, everyone was happy and optimistic. Shit got real bad real fast. My mom ended up in Bergen-Belsen, but she escaped. Spent the rest of the war as a homeless refugee. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 11:29:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guns? You don't need guns, all you need is solidarity and a will to stand. Here in the US for example, if every single gun owner marched on WA DC, unarmed, and proclaimed they're not going to work, not paying their taxes, and not moving until our rights are affirmed, change would happen, and fast. Ghandi was the ultimate example of what can happen when people simply stand together.  TheTinyDot |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 11:34:23 AM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 11:40:23 AM EDT
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The point was that we aren't anywhere close to that yet. We seem to be gaining gun rights lately. CA got truckloads of mags recently, and NY just got tasers. Small steps in the right direction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? We seem to be gaining gun rights lately. CA got truckloads of mags recently, and NY just got tasers. Small steps in the right direction. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 11:44:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/15596/say_when_jpg-920529.JPG I figure I can take at least 3-4 with me. Of course, I'm 60 years old now & not as good a shooter as I once was. But that's 3-4 who won't be going to the next guy. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 11:45:39 AM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 12:48:48 PM EDT
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DOXing to the point where conservatives have lost their job is the equivalent of Kristalnacht. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? Just curious, what about when liberals have been "doxxed" and lost their jobs? Does this also signify that we are now living under the third reich with Trump as the fuehrer? Jesus, some of you guys and your hyperbolic bullshit is just as bad as the leftists. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 12:52:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who says it will be the Jews this time? |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 12:56:38 PM EDT
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First they take your guns. Then they take the rest. Next knives |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 12:58:09 PM EDT
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Economic censorship via payment processors and banks of conservatives, like Gavin McInnis and Chase Bank, the Proud Boys members or Milo. Patreon deplatforming. Google, Facebook, Twitter are all openly stifling anyone they can that's right of mao. The media openly calling for attacks of high school kids wearing the wrong hat at the wrong place. People being assaulted for wearing a hat or disagreeing politically. An open attack on our election system by the media, half the government itself as well. The demonization of people for their race, gender and sexual orientation. Sounds pretty damn close to kristallnacht to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The point was that we aren't anywhere close to that yet. We seem to be gaining gun rights lately. CA got truckloads of mags recently, and NY just got tasers. Small steps in the right direction. An open attack on our election system by the media, half the government itself as well. The demonization of people for their race, gender and sexual orientation. Sounds pretty damn close to kristallnacht to me. Operation Choke Point also. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:05:58 PM EDT
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It took Germany less than 10 years to go from struggling socialist government to mass murder. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:09:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What evidence do you have to the contrary? We don't have a dictator in office, or any SS taking orders from the non-existent dictator. Nor do we have any genocide currently occurring. Not that I'm a fan of the red flag laws becoming popular right now, but it's still quite a big jump from that to the the third reich. The noose has been and continues to be tightened every day and in every way - push back? Most either do not care, co not want to rock the boat or believe (like most in the past) that, '... it can't happen here or to me ...'. A sad and dangerous time we live in .............. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:13:50 PM EDT
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Economic censorship via payment processors and banks of conservatives, like Gavin McInnis and Chase Bank, the Proud Boys members or Milo. Patreon deplatforming. Google, Facebook, Twitter are all openly stifling anyone they can that's right of mao. The media openly calling for attacks of high school kids wearing the wrong hat at the wrong place. People being assaulted for wearing a hat or disagreeing politically. An open attack on our election system by the media, half the government itself as well. The demonization of people for their race, gender and sexual orientation. Sounds pretty damn close to kristallnacht to me. Don't forget the doxxing to affect your job or personal life that is becoming more and more common. Focusing on not being identified by a yellow star is short sighted, I don't see that ever happening. Doesn't need too it is all different, but same idea. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:23:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guns? You don't need guns, all you need is solidarity and a will to stand. Here in the US for example, if every single gun owner marched on WA DC, unarmed, and proclaimed they're not going to work, not paying their taxes, and not moving until our rights are affirmed, change would happen, and fast. Ghandi was the ultimate example of what can happen when people simply stand together. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:24:56 PM EDT
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It took Germany less than 10 years to go from struggling socialist government to mass murder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? In-country there were the ad-hoc deaths from abuse, overwork and starvation in the concentration camps and then the Kristallnacht was just setting the mob loose on the Jews. Collections in the ghettos in occupied territories, as well as in Germany, to ship them out to concentration/ extermination camps were bloody because they would just outright kill those who resisted, were too young, old or disabled to keep up with the collection marches. The T-4 eugenics program was a warmup to gassing people in the extermination camps. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:25:30 PM EDT
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We are a long way from that yet. Do you see any Jews wearing yellow stars yet? 
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:33:48 PM EDT
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While Germany was struggling into power Stalin was perfecting mass murder, that Hitler copied. Bolsheviks had it figured out way before Molotov agreement on Poland. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It took Germany less than 10 years to go from struggling socialist government to mass murder. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:34:18 PM EDT
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This is why I keep saying over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, that the discharge of of student loans in bankruptcy should be the right's #1 priority.
The cancer of cultural marxism is being cultured in academia and fed by overpriced tuition fees. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:40:44 PM EDT
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This is why I keep saying over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, that the discharge of of student loans in bankruptcy should be the right's #1 priority. The cancer of cultural marxism is being cultured in academia and fed by overpriced tuition fees. Too much money in the system is what's causing it to ramp out of control. |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:52:57 PM EDT
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It began with the rise of Bubba in the presidency and "political correctness" with respects to speech. Good book to read by an former Austrian soldier who was drafted in the Wehrmacht is Condemned To Live. The author saw the same thing happen in Germany and applied it to Colin Powell being shouted down during a commencement speech.
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Posted: 4/22/2019 1:53:37 PM EDT
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Pat Condell covered this, exceptionally well.
Well worth the time to listen to his take.  The Anti-American Dream |
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Posted: 4/22/2019 2:00:48 PM EDT
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I tend to agree with this. What disturbs me the most, is how westerners have just sort of accepted it. The story about the kid in New Zealand that was arrested for downloading the shooter's manifesto, and various people in the UK being arrested for speech violations, those really bother me. I guess when it comes to free speech I'm somewhat of a radical. I don't even believe in the censorship of ugly or mean words, or distasteful, or racist ideas. Words and ideas shouldn't be restricted. Also the New Zealand's government refusing to release the name of the shooter bothered me. On this forum many supported that. I don't EVER think the government should be able to "disappear" someone. I don't care what they are accused of, or did. That's getting damn near black bagging people. I also don't like secret courts, and "special prisons". People accept them because they believe they'll only be used for bad people, and terrorists. Once people get use to governments black bagging bad people, holding them in special prisons, trying them in secret courts, it's just a small step away form very bad things happening. One day someone you know is black bagged, and everyone just assumes he must have done something "bad", and accepts it. People in government shouldn't be trusted with that kind of power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We all have the illusion of freedom , but that's all it is. What disturbs me the most, is how westerners have just sort of accepted it. The story about the kid in New Zealand that was arrested for downloading the shooter's manifesto, and various people in the UK being arrested for speech violations, those really bother me. I guess when it comes to free speech I'm somewhat of a radical. I don't even believe in the censorship of ugly or mean words, or distasteful, or racist ideas. Words and ideas shouldn't be restricted. Also the New Zealand's government refusing to release the name of the shooter bothered me. On this forum many supported that. I don't EVER think the government should be able to "disappear" someone. I don't care what they are accused of, or did. That's getting damn near black bagging people. I also don't like secret courts, and "special prisons". People accept them because they believe they'll only be used for bad people, and terrorists. Once people get use to governments black bagging bad people, holding them in special prisons, trying them in secret courts, it's just a small step away form very bad things happening. One day someone you know is black bagged, and everyone just assumes he must have done something "bad", and accepts it. People in government shouldn't be trusted with that kind of power. |
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