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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:10:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's something awesome about a super-long bayo on an already long rifle. "Hey you! Yeah, you over there." ** STAB **  IIRC the old old mosins had a ridiculously long bayonet - the damn thing was like a spear. The bosses clearly hadn't forgotten the muzzle loader era. Always though there was intimidation value and in an HD weapon that can't hurt. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:11:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:12:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK Boomer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I honestly do not remember any twisting. It was just about stabbing really hard .. sometimes combined with a good buttstroke. Modern stocks make this almost impossible. Yeah - these were Garands. OK Boomer. I’m a Gen X’er but was slightly annoyed by that comment until I noticed your screen name. 
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:13:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't say I follow your reasoning 100%, but as the saying goes, "It couldn't hurt." (Unless you accidently stick yourself with it).  I did order an M7 bayo for my pinned and welded 14.5" BCM. Whether it's necessary or not, it is way cool to have the pig sticker dangling off the HD rifle.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Our brains seem to be trained on an instinctual level to fear knives. A criminal might well think that you won't pull the trigger if he rushes at you, but it's entirely different to run at a man holding a spear pointed straight at him. A 14.5" barreled AR with a bayonet doesn't lose much mobility rounding corners, and can in fact hinder Lootie's attempt to grab your barrel as it comes around the corner. At the very least, I recommend you have one available. More options are better than fewer. Can't say I follow your reasoning 100%, but as the saying goes, "It couldn't hurt." (Unless you accidently stick yourself with it). I did order an M7 bayo for my pinned and welded 14.5" BCM. Whether it's necessary or not, it is way cool to have the pig sticker dangling off the HD rifle. Recommend a good source on the M7 ? ETA: daaaamg.. an M9 is $200 on eBay!? What in the world. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:19:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the perfect social distancing tool for when times are tough enough you take a rifle with you but still not quite time for "shoot anyone I don't know." Hmmm! Maybe I should carry a Garand with a fixed bayonet while shopping during this COVID epidemic. It WOULD do the trick. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:21:49 PM EDT
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Turning your rifle into a shitty spear, while dramatically increasing your chances of getting snagged on something?
Brilliant!!! |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:22:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: Our brains seem to be trained on an instinctual level to fear knives. A criminal might well think that you won't pull the trigger if he rushes at you, but it's entirely different to run at a man holding a spear pointed straight at him. A 14.5" barreled AR with a bayonet doesn't lose much mobility rounding corners, and can in fact hinder Lootie's attempt to grab your barrel as it comes around the corner. At the very least, I recommend you have one available. More options are better than fewer. Never, ever looked at it that way before...But I think you might be on to something. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:22:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:22:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:24:56 PM EDT
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As I am not a very good shot perhaps I can use the bayonet to ensure my point of aim.
Stick. Boom. Boom. Boom. Ect... |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:26:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There isn't much a burglar fears more than a naked bayonet charge. Avatar is appropriate. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:28:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As I am not a very good shot perhaps I can use the bayonet to ensure my point of aim. Stick. Boom. Boom. Boom. Ect... #SharpPointShooting |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:29:06 PM EDT
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 Even better when it is a shotgun! |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:31:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:33:08 PM EDT
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Pity there aren't much in the way of bayonets available for 16" carbines.
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:34:15 PM EDT
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Not my vid but man is it fun....
Now you see it...  Attached FileNow you don’t!  Attached File Mossberg 590 12 Gauge Shotgun With Bayonet |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:34:17 PM EDT
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OP, you carry a spear.
I'll carry a rifle. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:36:13 PM EDT
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I am surprised nobody has posted this yet... (GD is prob too drunk
  How to KILL with a Bayonet! |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:36:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same but different: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/240/3394254B-404B-4963-92FA-DE69FBF0934D_jpe-1336956.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My Mossberg 500 ATP Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang!Bang! Click. Stab, stab stab. Same but different: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/240/3394254B-404B-4963-92FA-DE69FBF0934D_jpe-1336956.JPG Sigh. Had I known about those I would have bought one. They disappeared like a fart in the wind. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:38:08 PM EDT
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It's also hard to grab the business end and wrestle a long arm from the owner if its got a sharp cutting instrument on the end.
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:39:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:39:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:42:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: #SharpPointShooting Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As I am not a very good shot perhaps I can use the bayonet to ensure my point of aim. Stick. Boom. Boom. Boom. Ect... #SharpPointShooting It would make a great selling video. Most folk are concerned where the bullets land. Sharp Point Shooting cures all. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:42:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pity there aren't much in the way of bayonets available for 16" carbines. A standard bayonet fits well enough. Rattles a touch more than a properly designed one, but will function perfectly well. 
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:42:32 PM EDT
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The bullet is a fool, the bayonet is a fine chap.
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:44:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: Our brains seem to be trained on an instinctual level to fear knives. A criminal might well think that you won't pull the trigger if he rushes at you, but it's entirely different to run at a man holding a spear pointed straight at him. A 14.5" barreled AR with a bayonet doesn't lose much mobility rounding corners, and can in fact hinder Lootie's attempt to grab your barrel as it comes around the corner. At the very least, I recommend you have one available. More options are better than fewer. What he/she thinks isn't part of the equation. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:44:57 PM EDT
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There are a number of dead Zulus that would agree with that bayonet statement.
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:47:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In all seriousness. How often does hand to hand happen on the modern battlefield? Is it still prevalent? Just wondering as I'm just joe civy and was under the impression that its a rarity outside of potentially super-secret squirrel stuff now days. There were three or four hth combat situations in Afghanistan. If memory serves, this man also used a khurkri. Task and Purpose article on HTH. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:47:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What he/she thinks isn't part of the equation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Our brains seem to be trained on an instinctual level to fear knives. A criminal might well think that you won't pull the trigger if he rushes at you, but it's entirely different to run at a man holding a spear pointed straight at him. A 14.5" barreled AR with a bayonet doesn't lose much mobility rounding corners, and can in fact hinder Lootie's attempt to grab your barrel as it comes around the corner. At the very least, I recommend you have one available. More options are better than fewer. What he/she thinks isn't part of the equation. His thought processes are a huge part of the situation. Almost half, one might day. As the attacker, he gets to choose the time and place of the encounter. He has the luxury of pumping himself up and preparing for a fight in the minutes before. All I can do is have versatile equipment available, and as much practice as I can muster. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:47:26 PM EDT
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Thank fully, I went to Army Basic Training back in 1999, when everyone still got bayonet training. 3 days of bayonet and obstacle courses, complete with tons of blanks and practice grenades. I thought it was pathetic when they eliminated bayonet training. It was days of long training and really getting you into a combat spirit.
I personally like having a bayonet, it says "even if I run out of ammo, I will still skewer you" |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:48:59 PM EDT
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Been working on something like this.
The 11.5 barrel was just a tad short so I found a little longer FH. Works perfectly. (SB4 brace should be here Monday ) Attached File |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:50:38 PM EDT
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I can understand the argument, but think a weapon light is generally more useful.
That said, it would be fun to have on a pig gun. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:50:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not my vid but man is it fun.... Now you see it... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/170028/876487CD-606F-4E28-9348-B843AF3001B2_jpe-1337035.JPG Now you don’t! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/170028/599EED4F-E51B-4CFB-9A20-B249C1E5B39A_jpe-1337037.JPG  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt3lHr6CMIoWho made the salad? |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:51:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:52:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can understand the argument, but think a weapon light is generally more useful. That said, it would be fun to have on a pig gun. Get both. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:52:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySkip that, and just use the Dane axe I see in the background!!
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:52:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to develop a bayonet with a reciprocating blade. Maybe wire a small solenoid to my Surefire's battery? |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:52:59 PM EDT
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If you are using a bayo - you screwed up.
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:53:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: Modern stocks make this almost impossible. Quoted: In all seriousness. How often does hand to hand happen on the modern battlefield? Is it still prevalent? Just wondering as I'm just joe civy and was under the impression that its a rarity outside of potentially super-secret squirrel stuff now days. Is 15 years ago modern enough? Modern guns buttstroke just fine |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:53:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are using a bayo - you screwed up. I’m prone to screwing up under stress. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:54:25 PM EDT
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A 20” with a bayonet is pretty handy in CQB
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:55:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A 20” with a bayonet is pretty handy in CQB They also fit on 14.5” barrels. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:57:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Skip that, and just use the Dane axe I see in the background!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Skip that, and just use the Dane axe I see in the background!! Good to have options. My namesake was king of Denmark from 1018-1035 |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:58:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: Our brains seem to be trained on an instinctual level to fear knives. A criminal might well think that you won't pull the trigger if he rushes at you, but it's entirely different to run at a man holding a spear pointed straight at him. A 14.5" barreled AR with a bayonet doesn't lose much mobility rounding corners, and can in fact hinder Lootie's attempt to grab your barrel as it comes around the corner. At the very least, I recommend you have one available. More options are better than fewer. So what is the recommended bayonet for an AR15? I have an FN-15 M4 clone with the bayo lug and I'm interested in participating. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:59:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is important to remember that owning a guitar doesn't make you a musician. I'd say if you really intend to use that bayonet maybe some training is in order? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My Uncle jumped out of airplanes in WW2 and stabbed Germans. A real tough man he was. "German was a good tough soldier" " Skin is a LOT tougher than you think" "Indecision will get you killed". It is important to remember that owning a guitar doesn't make you a musician. I'd say if you really intend to use that bayonet maybe some training is in order? See the pointy end? You stick that in the other bastard. There. Now you've had training. 
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Posted: 3/27/2020 8:00:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what is the recommended bayonet for an AR15? I have an FN-15 M4 clone with the bayo lug and I'm interested in participating. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Our brains seem to be trained on an instinctual level to fear knives. A criminal might well think that you won't pull the trigger if he rushes at you, but it's entirely different to run at a man holding a spear pointed straight at him. A 14.5" barreled AR with a bayonet doesn't lose much mobility rounding corners, and can in fact hinder Lootie's attempt to grab your barrel as it comes around the corner. At the very least, I recommend you have one available. More options are better than fewer. So what is the recommended bayonet for an AR15? I have an FN-15 M4 clone with the bayo lug and I'm interested in participating. Surplus M7 should function fine as a bayonet and general utility knife. I wouldn’t use it to butcher a deer or shave though. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 8:01:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm prone to screwing up under stress. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you are using a bayo - you screwed up. I'm prone to screwing up under stress. Just pop some flares and be sure to flip the wire safeties on the Fougasse Claymores....bang on 'em three times. Then just let 'em burn. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 8:03:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just pop some flares and be sure to flip the wire safeties on the Fougasse Claymores....bang on 'em three times. Then just let 'em burn. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you are using a bayo - you screwed up. I'm prone to screwing up under stress. Just pop some flares and be sure to flip the wire safeties on the Fougasse Claymores....bang on 'em three times. Then just let 'em burn. I preprogrammed Claymore Roomba to do that for me. |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 8:05:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is 15 years ago modern enough? Modern guns buttstroke just fine I just think these are going to less impactful due to design and mass  Attached File Attached FileThan  Attached FileOr this  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 8:05:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ew. Shotguns are for poors. |
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