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Posted: 12/11/2021 12:58:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: .30 carbine AR15 that takes M1 Carbine magazines. I think it would be a hot seller |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 12:58:28 PM EDT
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I always hoped HEZI would happen. Love 30 Carbine.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 12:58:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .30 carbine. Nuff said. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .30 carbine AR15 that takes M1 Carbine magazines. I think it would be a hot seller |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 12:59:01 PM EDT
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Because only one would be sold.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 12:59:59 PM EDT
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I want one in the venerable .357 magnum 125 gr Remington load. No other cartridge, including the .50 BMG has the same manstopping track record.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:00:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .30 carbine. Nuff said. But .30 carbines cost stupid money these days… 
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:00:20 PM EDT
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Why not an optics ready, double stack Luger?
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:00:22 PM EDT
[#8]
Why not just buy an m1 carbine? Mine's awesome.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:01:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always hoped HEZI would happen. Love 30 Carbine. 
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not an optics ready, double stack Luger? |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:02:45 PM EDT
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A .30 carbine that weighs 2 pounds more than an M1 carbine. It will sell like something that sells poorly.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:03:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWell we've been around a while. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:04:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not just buy an m1 carbine? Mine's awesome. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .30 carbine. Nuff said. This. Other cartridges do better for cheaper Hell were there any production rifles other the M1 carbines/clones chambered in it? I only know of a handful of pistols |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want one in the venerable .357 magnum 125 gr Remington load. No other cartridge, including the .50 BMG has the same manstopping track record. It's called .350 legend and actually works 
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:08:49 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted: .30 carbine AR15 that takes M1 Carbine magazines. I think it would be a hot seller It wouldn’t…. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:08:51 PM EDT
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AutoMag3 in .30 carbine for the handgun
Ruger Blackhawk in .30 carbine for the revolver Marlin Model 62 for the lever action |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:10:13 PM EDT
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In decades long past the M1 Carbine had 3 things going for it:
1- Cheap Surplus M1 Carbines (my dad tells stories of barrels full of them at gun stores in the 50's-60's) 2- Light handy Carbine, easy to carry 3- Cheap surplus Ammo. Now only one of these advantages remain for the M1 Carbine. When you put 30 Carbine in an AR you loose all the advantages. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:10:14 PM EDT
[#19]
Just use .350 Legend and squint a bit...
Kharn |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:10:58 PM EDT
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because .30 carbine ammo isnt really that easy to get like it used to be and 9mm.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:15:37 PM EDT
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I always wanted a mp5 in 30
Glock longslide in 30 would be the coolest glock ever made |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:17:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In decades long past the M1 Carbine had 3 things going for it: 1- Cheap Surplus M1 Carbines (my dad tells stories of barrels full of them at gun stores in the 50's-60's) 2- Light handy Carbine, easy to carry 3- Cheap surplus Ammo. Now only one of these advantages remain for the M1 Carbine. When you put 30 Carbine in an AR you loose all the advantages. And the AR is the new M1 anyway. Assuming you don't build it to be as heavy as possible. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:18:08 PM EDT
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The Israelis made one. I cannot recall what it was called though.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:18:25 PM EDT
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Why haven't you formed a company and started making them yourself, OP?
If it was actually a good idea, you would be doing that instead of posting about it on a gun forum. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:19:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because only one would be sold. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:21:15 PM EDT
[#26]
At this time, you'd be happier running a 300BO
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:21:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted: .30 carbine AR15 that takes M1 Carbine magazines. I think it would be a hot seller Two little dimples on the back is unworkable with a side mounted latch in a slot. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:21:41 PM EDT
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Pretty early for drinking, but I have been there.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:23:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Israelis made one. I cannot recall what it was called though. Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. 
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:24:21 PM EDT
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We have enough AR shit. Most of it was “cool” at one time and just takes up wall space these days.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:25:56 PM EDT
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Come to think of it, Tromix back in the day could have been convinced to build one. He did an AR in 32 ACP.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:27:52 PM EDT
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AR15 mags were sorta kinda disposable consumable originally, but the Carbine magazine design really is disposable. The design is sort of unable to be otherwise. Even late production mags intended for re-use, the two little dimples that engage the weapon are just flimsy and weak. There isn't any room for enough metal to make them rugged. If you're careful, you can make them last, but just one time yu get rough, they'll get all all bunged up and never really work right again.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:28:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always wanted a mp5 in 30 Glock longslide in 30 would be the coolest glock ever made https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEAM_Mod%C3%A8le_1950 |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:30:12 PM EDT
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.30 carbine AR15 that takes M1 Carbine magazines. That would be kinda neat, especially if .30 carbine was plentiful and cheap. I think it would be a hot seller It wouldn't. Think to yourself, has .300BO taken over or did it just enjoy a flash of popularity that gained just a little more traction than other non-conventional rounds. A .30 carbine AR wouldn't really have anything going for it, more expensive ammo, less range, "cheap" mags that cost more than most AR mags. It doesn't exist because it's a solution that causes more problems than it solves. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:34:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be kinda neat, especially if .30 carbine was plentiful and cheap. It wouldn't. Think to yourself, has .300BO taken over or did it just enjoy a flash of popularity that gained just a little more traction than other non-conventional rounds. A .30 carbine AR wouldn't really have anything going for it, more expensive ammo, less range, "cheap" mags that cost more than most AR mags. It doesn't exist because it's a solution that causes more problems than it solves. I have four vintage carbines. Trust me, if you just bang the mag on a corner of the hallway, it will destroy the mag dimples and that mag will never be reliable again. I've fixed them with a quick weld and file, and made then range/plinking usable, but compared to the AR system, there is no comparison. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:40:20 PM EDT
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I think this would have been great in the '90s. Now? No point. 300 BLK pushes a bullet that is the same weight at the same speed from a barrel that is 9" shorter, and the BC is double so it holds velocity a lot better.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:41:43 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not just buy an m1 carbine? Mine's awesome. This. They are pretty great as-is. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:44:18 PM EDT
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They should make a new 30 cartridge that works with the existing lowers and mags for the 5.56/223, they could even make loads that work in shorter length barrels, maybe even can it. That would be cool to just be able to switch uppers.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:46:30 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's called .350 legend and actually works Do you have one? @Raider14 |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:48:35 PM EDT
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Why hasn't it been made? Because literally only one person wants it.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:48:55 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have four vintage carbines. Trust me, if you just bang the mag on a corner of the hallway, it will destroy the mag dimples and that mag will never be reliable again. I've fixed them with a quick weld and file, and made then range/plinking usable, but compared to the AR system, there is no comparison. "It would be kinda neat" was in no way a suggestion that it would do anything at all better than existing AR platforms. One could make the argument that an M-1 carbine in .223 would be a better direction to take, especially if it used AR/M16 mags, but the Mini-14 never came close to the AR greatness, and still wouldn't even if it used the same mags. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:49:04 PM EDT
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Many moons ago somebody made a metal stock to turn a m1 carbine into a Tompson machine gun looking gun. the M1 action hooked into the back of the frame and the barrel band held it in place in the front. I do not know if it had the cut out for the selector for a m2. I remember seeing them in the 1970`s
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:49:59 PM EDT
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Bradders made a straight pull in .30 carb for Britain gun laws.
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:50:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "It would be kinda neat" was in no way a suggestion that it would do anything at all better than existing AR platforms. One could make the argument that an M-1 carbine in .223 would be a better direction to take, especially if it used AR/M16 mags, but the Mini-14 never came close to the AR greatness, and still wouldn't even if it used the same mags. Winchester made one |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was actually going to start a thread asking about that cartridge today. It is the only ammo that is always in stock at walmart. Do you have one? @Raider14 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's called .350 legend and actually works Do you have one? @Raider14 Negatory but I talked a buddy into a 10.5" recently, its a sweet little rifle and has been reliable for him so far |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEAM_Mod%C3%A8le_1950 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I always wanted a mp5 in 30 Glock longslide in 30 would be the coolest glock ever made https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEAM_Mod%C3%A8le_1950 That would be a good start. Needs SBRed and it would be pretty sweet. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 1:54:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They should make a new 30 cartridge that works with the existing lowers and mags for the 5.56/223, they could even make loads that work in shorter length barrels, maybe even can it. That would be cool to just be able to switch uppers. I saw what you did there……slick. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 2:09:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/11/2021 2:11:57 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: .30 carbine. Nuff said. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .30 carbine AR15 that takes M1 Carbine magazines. I think it would be a hot seller People still buy .40 S&W. Sooo.... 
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Posted: 12/11/2021 2:15:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They should make a new 30 cartridge that works with the existing lowers and mags for the 5.56/223, they could even make loads that work in shorter length barrels, maybe even can it. That would be cool to just be able to switch uppers. They did years ago. Can't remember exact name, but, it was along the lines of 30 Caliber Herritt. Somebody made a rimless version of 30 Herritt that worked in AR's. I think it may have been based off of 6.8 Brass. I think somebody also did a 357 Harrett AR, but, it's been so many years I will have to look it up. If i remember correctly, both calibers perform better that 300blk. I may be mixing info on both calibers, and, there was an AR available for sale that took the Harrett Rimless Tactical cartridge, but, not sure how that really played out years ago. |
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