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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:27:58 PM EST
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Some idiot tried to tell me the parties flipped in the 50's.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:32:16 PM EST
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Tell them we are the breakers of chains. The freedom givers that championed civil rights. And we have sat by watching the dems steal our valor. But no more.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:32:41 PM EST
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It's only because the leftists have been trying like hell to disavow their history as slavers, KKK organizers, Jim Crow law passers, and basically the party of racism and bigotry, and they want to blame all their own sordid history on the Republicans.
And the main reason why the leftists hate Candace Owens-Farmer with the passion of a thousand burning suns, is because she's a black woman who has the audacity to call them on it. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:34:15 PM EST
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I JUST had this conversation with a coworker a few days ago and almost posted a thread asking about it.
Can someone give a level headed explanation? |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:38:00 PM EST
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Party of today. Now I'm no political scholar and I've had a few beers but that just don't sound right. Is that a correct statement? I apologize for my ignorance if it is.... |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:41:02 PM EST
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I JUST had this conversation with a coworker a few days ago and almost posted a thread asking about it. Can someone give a level headed explanation? |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:41:41 PM EST
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Watch the movie Death of a Nation by Dinesh D'Souza. It will answer all of your questions and arm you for arguments with idiots.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:43:54 PM EST
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Watch the movie Death of a Nation by Dinesh D'Souza. It will answer all of your questions and arm you for arguments with idiots. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:46:30 PM EST
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People who say such things have no idea what the platforms actually are of each party.
By that definition FDR was a Republican. Which would make any Republican do a spit take. The following link is the Republican platform of 1952. I bet the vast majority of modern Republicans will still agree with it: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/republican-party-platform-1952 |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:46:40 PM EST
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ask them why the democrats in the kkk all died in the democrat party and didn't switch? how come democrats filibustered and voted against the 1964 civil rights act? how come the first black democrat senator didn't come till 1993???
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:48:00 PM EST
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There’s all sorts of claims about this, but zero record (including congressional record) of it ever happening. Let alone that votes have been very consistently matching. Almost as if nothing swapped.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:48:07 PM EST
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Lincoln was a what?
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:48:34 PM EST
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Some idiot tried to tell me the parties flipped in the 50's. It's bullshit. The election results don't bear that theory out. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:49:13 PM EST
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Watch the movie Death of a Nation by Dinesh D'Souza. It will answer all of your questions and arm you for arguments with idiots. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:52:43 PM EST
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Tell them we are the breakers of chains. The freedom givers that championed civil rights. And we have sat by watching the dems steal our valor. But no more. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:55:10 PM EST
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Dinesh desusa has a great bit explaining how that’s a load of bullshit. Party policy’s and party has absolutely not swapped.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 10:57:09 PM EST
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:01:40 PM EST
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:02:46 PM EST
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One need only start a Civil War thread in GD to see that many of today’s Confederate sympathizers and supporters are on “our” side. One need only see how ugly those threads get to see that this in no way means anyone else flipped the other way. Are the types of people fighting to keep Confederate monuments up more likely to vote for Republicans or Democrats? How about those who want to take them down?
Good luck finding many Confederate Flag waving apologists for the Confederacy voting for Democrats these days. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:03:03 PM EST
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Orwellian doublespeak, plain and simple
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:04:01 PM EST
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:06:31 PM EST
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We were taught about the "realignment" in Political Science classes, as though sometime in the early '70's all the racists suddenly left the Democratic Party and decided to become Republican, and vise-versa. It's bullshit. The election results don't bear that theory out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some idiot tried to tell me the parties flipped in the 50's. It's bullshit. The election results don't bear that theory out. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:07:56 PM EST
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I believe only 1 politician at the national level switched sides during the period that the Democrats claim that the parties switched ideologies.
It's a pants on the head stupid claim. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:08:07 PM EST
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The Nazi party was disbanded after WW2, but the Democrat party was allowed to continue existing after the War of Southern Submission.
Does that seem right to you? |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:08:56 PM EST
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The only way I’ve had it remotely explained to me is that before a certain time, The Dem party was for less gov control and the repubs were for more gov control. As far as I understand that is basically the only difference. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I JUST had this conversation with a coworker a few days ago and almost posted a thread asking about it. Can someone give a level headed explanation? |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:09:55 PM EST
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This is so easily disprovable that it is laughable.
You can trace the Southern Democrats in a clear lineage from the Confederacy, to Jim Crowe, to the losers of the Reconstruction "Bloody Shirt" Era, to the party that adopted the Populist Party's agricultural principles, straight through to FDR, LBJ's social reforms, and today. This would be the unmistakable historical lineage. The easier way to disprove them is to draw on the geographical lineage of the Democrats, until their liberal shift of the late 60s. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:10:16 PM EST
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One need only start a Civil War thread in GD to see that many of today’s Confederate sympathizers and supporters are on “our” side. One need only see how ugly those threads get to see that this in no way means anyone else flipped the other way. Are the types of people fighting to keep Confederate monuments up more likely to vote for Republicans or Democrats? How about those who want to take them down? Good luck finding many Confederate Flag waving apologists for the Confederacy voting for Democrats these days. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:14:36 PM EST
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 US Politics 101 - History of the Left | 5 Minute Video |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:16:03 PM EST
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The Democrats may have modified their ideology, the Republicans did not. Nice try though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One need only start a Civil War thread in GD to see that many of today’s Confederate sympathizers and supporters are on “our” side. One need only see how ugly those threads get to see that this in no way means anyone else flipped the other way. Are the types of people fighting to keep Confederate monuments up more likely to vote for Republicans or Democrats? How about those who want to take them down? Good luck finding many Confederate Flag waving apologists for the Confederacy voting for Democrats these days. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:16:06 PM EST
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Holy tardnation
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:24:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is so easily disprovable that it is laughable. You can trace the Southern Democrats in a clear lineage from the Confederacy, to Jim Crowe, to the losers of the Reconstruction "Bloody Shirt" Era, to the party that adopted the Populist Party's agricultural principles, straight through to FDR, LBJ's social reforms, and today. This would be the unmistakable historical lineage. The easier way to disprove them is to draw on the geographical lineage of the Democrats, until their liberal shift of the late 60s. The modern service economy has necessarily concentrated an enormous share of the US economy into urban areas...surprise-surprise, those are the only areas the DNC gives a damn about, anymore. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:27:47 PM EST
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Communist operatives started shaping policy in the 1930s under Roosevelt. Now the communists are firmly in control of the democrat leadership positions. One even had his honeymoon in Moscow and made trips to Venezuela to praise Chavez. #breadlinebernie
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:27:56 PM EST
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The Democrats will do anything to keep their slaves.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:29:06 PM EST
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I JUST had this conversation with a coworker a few days ago and almost posted a thread asking about it. Can someone give a level headed explanation? |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:31:44 PM EST
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At one time the democrats were liberal, not progressive. Liberalism is a great thing. Progressivism is not. The party of FDR adopted the term liberal since progressive at the time was seen as liberal is today. The parties did eventually flip when it comes to ideology. However, the argument is when it ocurred and how it ultimately took place.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:31:57 PM EST
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Watch the movie Death of a Nation by Dinesh D'Souza. It will answer all of your questions and arm you for arguments with idiots. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:32:23 PM EST
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Some idiot tried to tell me the parties flipped in the 50's. The democrats flipped to communism, and the Republicans flipped to globalism. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:35:40 PM EST
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If there is an honest to god civil war, I really think that the vast, VAST majority of politicians would be scared shitless to pull the shit democrats are pulling today.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:36:59 PM EST
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I JUST had this conversation with a coworker a few days ago and almost posted a thread asking about it. Can someone give a level headed explanation? You can look at the Federal reserve as a big jumping off point point, but it likely goes back to the very founding of this country if you look hard enough. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:39:22 PM EST
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The Republican Party was the party that freed slaves and championed civil rights.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:41:50 PM EST
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The parties "switched" (political realignment) in the 60's.
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:50:39 PM EST
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Because our education system is teaching lies. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:52:10 PM EST
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They did flip. The democrats flipped to communism, and the Republicans flipped to globalism. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some idiot tried to tell me the parties flipped in the 50's. The democrats flipped to communism, and the Republicans flipped to globalism. |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 11:59:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically, the DNC has worked to control wherever the money was since its Jacksonian inception; first the Southern plantations, then the Midwest industrial districts, then the coastal banking hubs, abandoning each as they lost their influence (or as DNC policies used up & destroyed them, depending on your view). Power-hungry tyrants won't waste their time on people of no consequence, "party of the little guy" notwithstanding. The modern service economy has necessarily concentrated an enormous share of the US economy into urban areas...surprise-surprise, those are the only areas the DNC gives a damn about, anymore. I have no idea where you heard this, but this is not correct. There existed no "DNC" during the Civil War. (at least not in the contemporary sense) Republicans controlled the industrial regions during the Industrial Revolution. Political Party stances on Tariffs are but one example that verify this. Banking was traditionally a NorthEastern, Republican mainstay until well into the 20th century. The last part is somewhat correct, but you are vastly understating the social realities that led to the urbanization of the parties. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 12:01:43 AM EST
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I JUST had this conversation with a coworker a few days ago and almost posted a thread asking about it. Can someone give a level headed explanation? There is a continuous line running through the Dems from start to finish; no "flipping" or other such bullshit. It's just that they hit up a lot of crazy and crooked along the way. They're in the state they're in today for two reasons: - A deliberate decision to ghettoize black populations in order to create a demographic they can pander to, which really took off under Johnson. - Progressivism evolving into a political ideology that really isn't about anything other than coming out on top. Raw power, no matter the reason - and they've turned their pants-on-head craziness and lack of consistency in everything else into a political weapon. I've explained this many times before - the leaders engage in dick-measuring against each other by seeing who can steer the followers into the most batshit positions, the true believers complete with each other by furiously denouncing each other as not batshit enough (or an outdated flavor of batshit), and the poor normals get a target painted on their back by virtue of not being batshit, and get coerced into compliance. Those two elements together led to minority urban interests becoming a large force in the party; first through simply voting demographics, and later as part of their ongoing internal SJW circular firing squad. Contrast this to the primary change in the GOP over its history - the spreading cancer of fake conservative shills financed by progressive opposition, using them to try to mold the party into a permanent opposition. If you want a stark data point from the post-war period, look at who was on what side for the Battle of Athens. (TN, not Greece) Same shit, same party, different days. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 12:03:28 AM EST
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At one time the democrats were liberal, not progressive. Liberalism is a great thing. Progressivism is not. The party of FDR adopted the term liberal since progressive at the time was seen as liberal is today. The parties did eventually flip when it comes to ideology. However, the argument is when it ocurred and how it ultimately took place. Initially, it was largely a very positive thing, one that benefited society and still does. The rise of EXCESSIVE government overreach finds its origins during the 1930s. While it was certainly increasing from the IR era until the 30s, its real origins as we know it today belong to FDR. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 12:05:20 AM EST
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Posted: 2/13/2020 12:49:40 AM EST
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"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they have something now that they've never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we have to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something,just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference." - Lyndon Baines Johnson
"I'll have those N****** voting democrat for the next 200 years." - Also Lyndon Baines Johnson Does anyone here still think slavery ended with the civil war? The dems have a "new" plantation. It's called WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS and SECTION 8 HOUSING. Like LBJ said in the first quote, Just enough to quiet them down and not enough to make a difference. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 1:13:52 AM EST
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Posted: 2/13/2020 1:18:35 AM EST
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 Attached FileRepublicans FORCED the democrats to change their evil ways. They had no choice but to use blacks in other ways. American blacks now pick ballots instead of cotton for the dems to retain power over other people. /thread. |
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