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Posted: 9/27/2017 3:46:10 PM EST
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Did you want me to fill the thread up with examples? I didn't. So I gave one. That is my reason. Please watch it an give an opinion. And what cards did you play? You have cited nothing. Just opinion.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 3:48:05 PM EST
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Did I say that?
You love to turn words around. That is the second time you have used that tactic. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 3:52:52 PM EST
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Did I say that? You love to turn words around. The reality is that is a minority position, this there are even ore opposing examples. These things being lost on you demonstrates you are incapable of having this conversation. Your ability is limited to displaying a poor understanding of how you feel. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 3:53:01 PM EST
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This is you, trying to drive home a point. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/379846/EF692A69-2479-4025-B7E8-1E59EC90A597-318851.JPG 
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Posted: 9/27/2017 3:54:14 PM EST
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Let me respond to that. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157130/socrates-pinterest-318859.jpg |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 3:56:29 PM EST
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No, I made a very clear and blunt statement. You played the consensus card. "Here are some opposing views and there are endless such examples." The reality is that is a minority position, this there are even ore opposing examples. These things being lost on you demonstrates you are incapable of having this conversation. Your ability is limited to displaying a poor understanding of how you feel. Please state your specific stance on this issue. For clarity. Mine is. I am Christian. An American. I love my country. I respect all religions and creeds, even though I might not agree with them. I do not support the killing and displacement of innocent people for no more reason than a land grab and for resources. And yes I am very aware of how this country started and what we did to the native Americans. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 3:57:39 PM EST
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EvanWilliams, Please cite your source for this copy and paste article of obvious propaganda. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You hate success. Jews make up 0.2 percent of the world's population yet about 20 percent of the Nobel prize winners. I won't even go into other fields of endeavor. Compare that with the Arab or even Muslim world. The contrast will be stark. Why? Culture matters. Jews have a long tradition of the men being literate. Judaism has a focus on learning and questioning. Societal influences played a role as well. Restrictions on Jews as land owners, soldiers and other endeavors pushed them into finance and academics. That pushed them into urban areas. Where was literacy higher in the bad old days? In cities. Ghettos were in cities, not in the country. While Jews were enduring that and getting better, the Muslim world was on the top of its game. Slaves and booty, and slave booty kept them awash in luxury. They had some scientific advances but much of it overstated and taken from the work of Christians and Jews who were subservient Dhimmis in muslim society. But culture works for any group willing to change. It would be hard to find a more backwards, stupid and unlettered bunch than the Scots prior to the 1700s. Dirty, poor and unlettered. What changed? They embraced English and education. Once the culture changed to one where education was valued, one could argue that the Scots surpassed England in scientific and engineering achievement. They closed that gap in astonishingly fast time. The largest Arab country, Egypt, was granted 30 patents in 2015. Israel alone 3000 plus. Puerto Rico with a population of 3.5 mil vs Egypt's 93 million was granted 40. Iran, also checked in around 30. Another thing I once read. Spain supposedly has more books and articles translated into Spanish in one year than the entire muslim world has had into Arabic in it's entire history. Keep in mind that half of Muslims are illiterate. IQ matters but culture and hard work matter much more over the long haul. Islam is not a religion of learning, it's a religion based on ritual. That spreads into the culture. Please cite your source for this copy and paste article of obvious propaganda. Read do. You can start with the Muslim slave Trade. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 3:57:44 PM EST
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Buddy this hasn’t even been a debate. You’re just espousing conspiracy theories at your designated boogie man. Or just insults. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 3:58:18 PM EST
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Go spend years reading history and maybe you will understand what people who are well Read do. You can start with the Muslim slave Trade. I didn't see any books on Google that came back with that title. And thank you for assuming I am not part of the "well read." Some day I guess I can be part of that club. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:01:17 PM EST
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Have anything to add. Any articles or facts that we can learn from? Or just insults. After wwii some of that land was given to the Jewish people to create a homeland for them. Within hours of its declaration Muslim nations surrounding it attacked Israel, and lost. As part of losing Israel claimed more territory under the laws of war. Now; the losers are bitching about the victors using the land as they see fit. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:12:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Duramaxman0909
Thank you Duramaxman0909! A man I can respect! Now. Let us debate. Without attacks on each other. Gentleman's handshake. 1. Fact. The area of the Middle East that now makes up Israel was once a British territory. True. But the British did not push out the people living there. Just occupied the region. Not good but it is what it is. 2. After wwii some of that land was given to the Jewish people to create a homeland for them. The area known a "Palestine" was taken from the indigenous people and given to the powerful zioinist movement using the atrocities of WWII as the catalyst. 3.Within hours of its declaration Muslim nations surrounding it attacked Israel, and lost. The people that live in this country had been being attacked for years before the Jewish State of Israel had been formed. Would you fight back if your land and home where suddenly not yours? I would. This is the genius in this narrative. Call the people of Palestine terrorists and war mongers for defending their home. Devious isn't it. 4. As part of losing Israel claimed more territory under the laws of war. Israel used terrorist attacks to fuel a military response and use this as a reason to take more land. 5. Now; the losers are bitching about the victors using the land as they see fit. They are not losers. They just want their homes, land and resources back. An article for your review from Wikipedia. " Zionist political violence refers to acts of violence committed by Zionists. Actions have been carried out by individuals and Jewish paramilitary groups such as the Irgun, the Lehi, the Haganah and the Palmach as part of a conflict between Jews, British authorities, and Palestinian Arabs, regarding land, immigration, and control over Palestine.[1] British soldiers and officials, United Nations personnel, Palestinian Arab fighters and civilians, and Jewish fighters and civilians have been targets or victims of these actions. Domestic, commercial, and government property, infrastructure, and material have also been attacked." Zionist political violence |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:17:29 PM EST
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Quote History drw1006:
Let us debate. Without attacks on each other. Gentleman's handshake. 
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:19:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Duramaxman0909 Thank you Duramaxman0909! A man I can respect! Now. Let us debate. Without attacks on each other. Gentleman's handshake. 1. Fact. The area of the Middle East that now makes up Israel was once a British territory. True. But the British did not push out the people living there. Just occupied the region. Not good but it is what it is. 2. After wwii some of that land was given to the Jewish people to create a homeland for them. The area known a "Palestine" was taken from the indigenous people and given to the powerful zioinist movement using the atrocities of WWII as the catalyst. 3.Within hours of its declaration Muslim nations surrounding it attacked Israel, and lost. The people that live in this country had been being attacked for years before the Jewish State of Israel had been formed. Would you fight back if your land and home where suddenly not yours? I would. This is the genius in this narrative. Call the people of Palestine terrorists and war mongers for defending their home. Devious isn't it. 4. As part of losing Israel claimed more territory under the laws of war. Israel used terrorist attacks to fuel a military response and use this as a reason to take more land. 5. Now; the losers are bitching about the victors using the land as they see fit. They are not losers. They just want their homes, land and resources back. I understand that’s not a very democratic view of things (I’m not a real big fan of representative government) but that’s life. To the victor goes the spoils. As it stands, Israel holds control over those lands. If a more powerful nation or people can wrest that control from them, they’re free to try. I don’t like their chances and personally would back Israel over any local nation or group. As to the area being called palestine, that was purely a Roman name for that province. There is no such thing as an ethnic Palestinian. They’re just Arabs no other Arab nation wants to claim. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:21:02 PM EST
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Do we have anyone on this board who studied the history of the Holocaust in-depth (NOT a hardcore denier or 88r)? I have a legit historical question.
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:27:50 PM EST
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Do we have anyone on this board who studied the history of the Holocaust in-depth (NOT a hardcore denier or 88r)? I have a legit historical question. Eta @DonS probably did |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:29:09 PM EST
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I'll add a few things that Duramaxman0909 missed:
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The area known a "Palestine" was taken from the indigenous people and given to the powerful zioinist movement using the atrocities of WWII as the catalyst. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The area known a "Palestine" was taken from the indigenous people and given to the powerful zioinist movement using the atrocities of WWII as the catalyst. 1b) There were supposed to be two states in the area, Jewish and Arab one. The people that live in this country had been being attacked for years before the Jewish State of Israel had been formed. Would you fight back if your land and home where suddenly not yours? I would. This is the genius in this narrative. Call the people of Palestine terrorists and war mongers for defending their home. Devious isn't it. Israel used terrorist attacks to fuel a military response and use this as a reason to take more land. They are not losers. They just want their homes, land and resources back. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:32:50 PM EST
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I'll add a few things that Duramaxman0909 missed: 1a) Jews lived there for millenia together with the Arabs. More Jews moved in post-WWII for obvious fuckin reasons, but by and large, they BOUGHT the land they moved to. 1b) There were supposed to be two states in the area, Jewish and Arab one. The attacks were mutual. The Arabs, at best, were one of the two sides that started a war, and are now crying foul because they lost. Oh noes muh suicide bombers. They dindu nuffin. There was fuck-all in Palestine before Israel. The area has no oil, and without Jews it would be another Somalia. The Palestinians are professional victims chiefly "suffering" from obesity and inability to produce anything except more Palestinians. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The area known a "Palestine" was taken from the indigenous people and given to the powerful zioinist movement using the atrocities of WWII as the catalyst. 1b) There were supposed to be two states in the area, Jewish and Arab one. The people that live in this country had been being attacked for years before the Jewish State of Israel had been formed. Would you fight back if your land and home where suddenly not yours? I would. This is the genius in this narrative. Call the people of Palestine terrorists and war mongers for defending their home. Devious isn't it. Israel used terrorist attacks to fuel a military response and use this as a reason to take more land. They are not losers. They just want their homes, land and resources back. Sounds like Detroit. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:35:31 PM EST
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Being educated does not mean they should be overrepresented astronimically in governmental and academic and influencial media positions, with dual citizenship with Israel. Jews have their own ethnostate and their politicians push gor third-world and especially muslim immigration into white countries. Jews are also the healthiest, most educated best off ethnic group. They should be subject to the same affirmative action discrimination as whites. What I say may not apply to the average American citizen but also the racism and privilege arguments against whites fo not always apply to working class whites either. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:35:53 PM EST
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I'll add a few things that Duramaxman0909 missed: 1a) Jews lived there for millenia together with the Arabs. More Jews moved in post-WWII for obvious fuckin reasons, but by and large, they BOUGHT the land they moved to. 1b) There were supposed to be two states in the area, Jewish and Arab one. The attacks were mutual. The Arabs, at best, were one of the two sides that started a war, and are now crying foul because they lost. Oh noes muh suicide bombers. They dindu nuffin. There was fuck-all in Palestine before Israel. The area has no oil, and without Jews it would be another Somalia. The Palestinians are professional victims chiefly "suffering" from obesity and inability to produce anything except more Palestinians. Yes Jews, Arabs and Christians lived together for years before the zionists moved in. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:40:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Pose the question and see the answers
Eta @DonS probably did Now, I'm not a student of the Holocaust, but I did study history a lot. A quick study of several sources showed that it is relatively indisputable that the majority of Jews (several million) in areas under direct Nazi occupation were intentionally killed by various methods. However, the whole 6 million number just seems awfully specific. I mean, Axis military losses, or Red Army losses, are estimated plus or minus a million or two, depending on who counted and how. The deaths of Soviet civilians, or say Yugoslavian civilians, due to Nazi actions are usually estimated with an even greater degree of uncertainty. It just seems weird that the results of such an ad-hoc and intentionally poorly documented process as the Holocaust could be established so precisely. Is 6 million just a consensus middle-ground estimate that nobody wants to question to avoid encouraging the 88rs? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:45:25 PM EST
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uh...thanks for that. Yes Jews, Arabs and Christians lived together for years before the zionists moved in. Forced conversion to Islam or death. The ones they didn’t kill they taxed or enslaved. Total diverse utopia. There is an ethnic-religious scourge that is overly problematic in this world. It’s not the Jews. It’s Arab Muslims. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:46:04 PM EST
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uh...thanks for that. Yes Jews, Arabs and Christians lived together for years before the zionists moved in. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:47:59 PM EST
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Well, recently I talked to someone who questioned the magic 6 million number. Now, I'm not a student of the Holocaust, but I did study history a lot. A quick study of several sources showed that it is relatively indisputable that the majority of Jews (several million) in areas under direct Nazi occupation were intentionally killed by various methods. However, the whole 6 million number just seems awfully specific. I mean, Axis military losses, or Red Army losses, are estimated plus or minus a million or two, depending on who counted and how. The deaths of Soviet civilians, or say Yugoslavian civilians, due to Nazi actions are usually estimated with an even greater degree of uncertainty. It just seems weird that the results of such an ad-hoc and intentionally poorly documented process as the Holocaust could be established so precisely. Is 6 million just a consensus middle-ground estimate that nobody wants to question to avoid encouraging the 88rs? All I know is, my grandfather liberated dachau. He saw the holocaust first hand. In all honesty he probably was part of the reprisal killings that took place. He fucking hated the Germans for what he saw there. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:48:17 PM EST
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History is always written by the victors.
The problem I have with the Holocaust is that it is the only thing talked about in the way of deaths is the Jewish people. The real Holocaust is EVERYONE that died in WWII. Jews, Germans, Americans, Canadians, Polish, French, Russian, Australian, etc to name a very short few. The propaganda is to drive forward the Jew only narrative and forget the rest. Well, not altogether but the Jewish deaths are first a foremost. This is for a reason and if you question the official narrative, then you are an anti-semite. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:49:42 PM EST
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I don't believe that Britain gave the Jews anything.
After the British took the area from the Turks by force in the First World War, they secretly divided the area up with France (Sykes-Picot Treaty) and four years later that occupation/civil administration was legitimized by the League of Nations, which created a "Palestine Mandate to facilitate the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine." They gave up and withdrew from that misruled mandate under pressure, the same way they gave up their claims to the misruled Thirteen Colonies. They gave them nothing! In July 1922, the League of Nations entrusted Great Britain with the Mandate for Palestine.
Recognizing "the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine," Great Britain was called upon to facilitate the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine-Eretz Israel (Land of Israel). Shortly afterwards, in September 1922, the League of Nations and Great Britain decided that the provisions for setting up a Jewish national home would not apply to the area east of the Jordan River, which constituted three-fourths of the territory included in the Mandate and which eventually became the Hashemite ingdom of Jordan. After the UN General Assembly adopted the resolution to partition Palestine on
November 29, 1947, Britain announced the termination of its Mandate over Palestine, to take effect on May 15, 1948. On May 14, 1948, the State of Israel was proclaimed. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:51:18 PM EST
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Since the "Zionists" moved in, those people still live together. Only now, in a wealthy first world nation. The only nation in the middle east that is a true western style democracy that grants citizenship to Jews, Arabs and Christians. Plus, if Israelis were defeated, I'm sure Palestine would now be a shining beacon of prosperity and freedom, just like other poor Arab countries without oil 
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:51:49 PM EST
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History is always written by the victors. The problem I have with the Holocaust is that it is the only thing talked about in the way of deaths is the Jewish people. The real Holocaust is EVERYONE that died in WWII. Jews, Germans, Americans, Canadians, Polish, French, Russian, Australian, etc to name a very short few. The propaganda is to drive forward the Jew only narrative and forget the rest. Well, not altogether but the Jewish deaths are first a foremost. This is for a reason and if you question the official narrative, then you are an anti-semite. But it was overwhelmingly Jewish, and they were the real hard core zeroed in targets of nazism. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:53:17 PM EST
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Since the "Zionists" moved in, those people still live together. Only now, in a wealthy first world nation. The only nation in the middle east that is a true western style democracy that grants citizenship to Jews, Arabs and Christians. Persons seeking citizenship per clause 5 must meet the following: 1. Residence in Israel for 3 out of the 5 years prior to the citizenship request under a permanent residence status. 2. Knowledge of the Hebrew language. 3. Willingness to waive other citizenships. Israeli Immigration |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:53:30 PM EST
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I don't believe that Britain gave the Jews anything. After the British took the area from the Turks by force in the First World War, they secretly divided the area up with France (Sykes-Picot Treaty) and four years later that occupation/civil administration was legitimized by the League of Nations, which created a "Palestine Mandate to facilitate the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine." They gave up and withdrew from that misruled mandate under pressure, the same way they gave up their claims to the misruled Thirteen Colonies. They gave them nothing! |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:54:14 PM EST
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"Israel, despite being a liberal democratic country, is not an immigration country. Therefore, Israel does not have laws and regulations enabling foreigners who wish to come and settle Israel the opportunity to do so. Persons seeking citizenship per clause 5 must meet the following: 1. Residence in Israel for 3 out of the 5 years prior to the citizenship request under a permanent residence status. 2. Knowledge of the Hebrew language. 3. Willingness to waive other citizenships. Israeli Immigration |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:54:37 PM EST
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But muh Free Palestine! Jews are racist for not surrendering to the mercy of the Arab armies, which as we all know is legendary. Plus, if Israelis were defeated, I'm sure Palestine would now be a shining beacon of prosperity and freedom, just like other poor Arab countries without oil Just asking? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:56:32 PM EST
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Are you a Jew? Just asking? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:56:43 PM EST
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So they’re smarter than us lol that’s not their fault. This is not the case. Israel only wants to allow Jewish people in. That does not sound like they are understanding of all religions including Christians and Muslims. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:57:40 PM EST
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"Israel, despite being a liberal democratic country, is not an immigration country. Therefore, Israel does not have laws and regulations enabling foreigners who wish to come and settle Israel the opportunity to do so. Persons seeking citizenship per clause 5 must meet the following: 1. Residence in Israel for 3 out of the 5 years prior to the citizenship request under a permanent residence status. 2. Knowledge of the Hebrew language. 3. Willingness to waive other citizenships. Israeli Immigration You do not even know how to argue. You are just shitting your feelings all over the place. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 4:59:56 PM EST
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But muh Free Palestine! Jews are racist for not surrendering to the mercy of the Arab armies, which as we all know is legendary. Plus, if Israelis were defeated, I'm sure Palestine would now be a shining beacon of prosperity and freedom, just like other poor Arab countries without oil |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:01:03 PM EST
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It’s everyone that died in the camps. Which yes, there Roma, poles, Slavs, gays, the retarded, etc. But it was overwhelmingly Jewish, and they were the real hard core zeroed in targets of nazism. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:01:03 PM EST
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I was making a point to the post about all religions living in peace in Israel. This is not the case. Israel only wants to allow Jewish people in. That does not sound like they are understanding of all religions including Christians and Muslims. The idea that all people are entitled to live wherever they want is stupid. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:02:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:It’s everyone that died in the camps. Which yes, there Roma, poles, Slavs, gays, the retarded, etc.
But it was overwhelmingly Jewish, and they were the real hard core zeroed in targets of nazism. PS. Watch Come and See (1985) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091251/ |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:02:19 PM EST
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That has nothing to do with my statement. You do not even know how to argue. You are just shitting your feelings all over the place. So I guess you are the one "shitting your feelings all over the place." |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:03:00 PM EST
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But I think outside the "camps" look at all the young men on all sides that also died fighting. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:04:32 PM EST
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They are hated in modern times because of their success. Aimless is a portly Jewish underwear model who solves crimes In his spare time. No one hates him. In old times they were hated for religious reasons. "You killed Jesus" or "you disrespected the prophet" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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 okIn his spare time. No one hates him. In old times they were hated for religious reasons. "You killed Jesus" or "you disrespected the prophet" |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:05:03 PM EST
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If that’s the case good for them. Multi culturalism is goin to be the death of the west. The idea that all people are entitled to live wherever they want is stupid. It just strikes me as funny that a country that came into being due to "persecution" is committing it themselves. You would think Israel would be the beacon of inclusion and freedom for the world. no? |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:06:14 PM EST
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Whatever you say Larry.. Now be a good Lad and pull the shades.
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:07:30 PM EST
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All of those people died due to politics. Not one person died to end the holocaust or because of it outside of the people in the camps. WWII was fought because of German aggression, not to end any kind of atrocity. But what do you hear all the time in the media? Holocaust. Holocaust. Holocaust. I think you made reference to your Grandfather being in the war and what he saw. To talk only of the Holocaust would diminish the fellow soldiers he knew that died. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:07:31 PM EST
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I wasn't answering you. So I guess you are the one "shitting your feelings all over the place." We get understand how you feel. It is also obvious what you do not know or know how to do. You do more damage to your case than anyone else could. So I am going to go sign up for some of that Jew control. If you have a glitch in your finances this week or stub a toe.....Jews. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:09:23 PM EST
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A statement is a statement. Facts are facts. We get understand how you feel. It is also obvious what you do not know or know how to do. You do more damage to your case than anyone else could. So I am going to go sign up for some of that Jew control. If you have a glitch in your finances this week or stub a toe.....Jews. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:09:26 PM EST
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It's very helpful when people use words like "subservience" to help us understand their antisemitism. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh Oh... Evangelicals with their dogmatic subservience to Jews in order to get the Apocalypse and Jesus back vs. Alt-Right the Jews are behind Cultural Marxism/out to destroy the West. Leftist tactic of accusatorial labeling instead of factual rebuttal, you don't say... |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:09:41 PM EST
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Culture and religious beliefs are different. It just strikes me as funny that a country that came into being due to "persecution" is committing it themselves. You would think Israel would be the beacon of inclusion and freedom for the world. no? People with cultural, religious, ethnic, and traditional similarities form nations based on their shared customs and reject those who don’t. That was the norm for most of human history. Even the Roman Empire didn’t try and make everyone of one culture. You payed your taxes and followed the law and you were left alone. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:10:15 PM EST
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If that’s the case good for them. Multi culturalism is goin to be the death of the west. The idea that all people are entitled to live wherever they want is stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was making a point to the post about all religions living in peace in Israel. This is not the case. Israel only wants to allow Jewish people in. That does not sound like they are understanding of all religions including Christians and Muslims. The idea that all people are entitled to live wherever they want is stupid. Now some traditional Christian cities like Bethlehem that are ruled by the PLO have driven out just about all the Christians who traditionally lived there. In 1950, Bethlehem and the surrounding villages were 86 percent Christian. But by 2016, the Christian population dipped to just 12
percent, according Bethlehem mayor Vera Baboun. Across the West Bank, Christians now account for less than 2 percent of the population, though in the 1970s, Christians were 5 percent of the population. In Bethlehem, the traditional birthplace of Jesus, today there are just 11,000 Christians. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 5:10:31 PM EST
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Exactly!!!! But what do you hear all the time in the media? Holocaust. Holocaust. Holocaust. I think you made reference to your Grandfather being in the war and what he saw. To talk only of the Holocaust would diminish the fellow soldiers he knew that died. |
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