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Pope is unscriptural. Nobody is between the individual and Jesus Christ.
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I'm an atheist, but Catholics are Christians. For 3/4 the time Christianity has existed, they've been the only Christians. That's like saying that people in England don't speak English. View Quote |
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Catholic here. I don't even bother when someone asks a question like this. Catholics worship Mary.
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I'll play.
Catholics have a religion-Christians have a relationship. |
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Followers of Christ and his Laws, or followers of mostly man made tradition?
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The chief difference is: surprise. Surprise and fear. Surprise and fear are the chief differences. Fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency. The THREE chief differences are: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope... AMONG the chief differences are...
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Yeah, I always viewed it as sacrilege to pray to Mary. God said only he is to be worshipped, so that should even preclude Mary. View Quote There is even a catholic church in Orlando called "Mary, Queen of the Universe" |
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I want GDs version on this. Thanks. View Quote Catholics are the original Christians until the reformation. Brit king wanted to kill his wives, massacre priests/nuns, destroy churches, and start a new religion called Protestantism and make his own Bible - King James version. |
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If you want to understand the fundamental differences between catholic christians and Protestant christians, you need to look at Martin Luther's Objections he nailed to the church house door.
I think there are Genuine catholics and Protestants who love Jesus and have a real relationship with him, and probably a fair number of each who do not. From my point of view, Catholics have developed many traditions that contradict the Bible. Using mary as a form of priest, asking her to intercede, for instance. 1 timothy 2:5 for there is one GOD and one mediator between GOD and men, the man Christ Jesus. Mary came to see Jesus with his brothers when he was preaching in a nearby town. One of the disciples learned she was outside desiring to see him. Matthew 12 46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.” Jesus never prayed to anyone but GOD. When men tried to worship peter or paul, those men stopped them from doing so. When John bowed before an angel in revelation, the angel also did not permit it. Why people would pray and ask mary for favors when we have the high priest himself ready to hear our petition makes no sense to me. I also reject the claim that the original church was catholic, it was jewish, as stated above. No where in the bible is the church referred to as catholic. the roman Catholic church has it roots in the church at rome tha Paul started, but he seeded many other churches throughout greece and asia as well. All christian denominations sprang forth out of what was originally called "the way." I think there are several things the modern catholic church does that contradict scripture, and to be fair, many protestant churches have some doctrinal issues as well. |
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Catholics don't "worship" Mary...they venerate her and pray to her (and all the saints) to intercede on their behalf.
"Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death" No different than any thread on this website where a member experiencing an illness or going through a tough time asks the other members to pray for him. |
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If you want to understand the fundamental differences between catholic christians and Protestant christians, you need to look at Martin Luther's Objections he nailed to the church house door. I think there are Genuine catholics and Protestants who love Jesus and have a real relationship with him, and probably a fair number of each who do not. From my point of view, Catholics have developed many traditions that contradict the Bible. Using mary as a form of priest, asking her to intercede, for instance. 1 timothy 2:5 for there is one GOD and one mediator between GOD and men, the man Christ Jesus. Mary came to see Jesus with his brothers when he was preaching in a nearby town. One of the disciples learned she was outside desiring to see him. Matthew 12 46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, "Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You." 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, "Who is My mother and who are My brothers?" 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, "Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother." Jesus never prayed to anyone but GOD. When men tried to worship peter or paul, those men stopped them from doing so. When John bowed before an angel in revelation, the angel also did not permit it. Why people would pray and ask mary for favors when we have the high priest himself ready to hear our petition makes no sense to me. I also reject the claim that the original church was catholic, it was jewish, as stated above. No where in the bible is the church referred to as catholic. the roman Catholic church has it roots in the church at rome tha Paul started, but he seeded many other churches throughout greece and asia as well. All christian denominations sprang forth out of what was originally called "the way." I think there are several things the modern catholic church does that contradict scripture, and to be fair, many protestant churches have some doctrinal issues as well. View Quote |
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Catholics don't "worship" Mary...they venerate her and pray to her (and all the saints) to intercede on their behalf. "Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death" No different than any thread on this website where a member experiencing an illness or going through a tough time asks the other members to pray for him. View Quote |
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Christians are more likely to troll and, even amongst themselves, show prejudice.
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All Catholics are Christians. Not all Christians are Catholic. View Quote There are many different sects of christianity, some are: Catholic, anglican, baptist, seventh day adventist, Lutheran, Mormon, and many others. All have their interpretations of the Bible, and many have added their own bits onto it. The two primary underlying beliefs are the Bible, and Jesus. |
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I want GDs version on this. Thanks. View Quote Last I checked Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity. On a personal note I find that I disagree with a number of points of their theology, but that's true of almost any organized church including the one I'm a member of. Disagreement is not a judgment of being 'not Christian.' |
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Catholics don't "worship" Mary...they venerate her and pray to her (and all the saints) to intercede on their behalf. "Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death" No different than any thread on this website where a member experiencing an illness or going through a tough time asks the other members to pray for him. View Quote |
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Quoted: No, I just see some Roman Catholics claiming "firsties" in these threads. That's just not historically accurate. Nor is the idea that the Church in Rome was founded by one of the original twelve apostles. It was not. It was founded by Paul. Just trying to keep the facts straight. View Quote |
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Quoted: Then why did you claim, incorrectly, that Peter visited Rome? View Quote So there is at least as much internal and external evidence for Peter making it to Rome as not. |
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Not so. There have been other Christian churches besides the Catholic Church from the very beginning. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm an atheist, but Catholics are Christians. For 3/4 the time Christianity has existed, they've been the only Christians. That's like saying that people in England don't speak English. The early Church predates Catholicism as we understand it in my view, so no, Catholicism was not the only game in town for the first 1500 years, but it was the largest. There was probably a period in the dark ages, after the fall of Rome, where it may have been the only real game in town outside of tiny splinter groups (many of which were deeply flawed theologically themselves. Gnostic groups come to mind, a theology that persists even to present day among some). That obviously ended with the schism that created the Eastern Orthodox Church. |
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Age...
Catholicism is the original Christian faith. The catholic church was founded by the Apostles, it's 2000 years old. The archaic doctrine comes from the middle ages, and it seems kind of foreign now I admit. The Lutherans have only been around for about 500 years... kind of a young fledgling religion in the scheme of things. The Eastern Church was the first to split away, that was for purely political reasons. |
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One sentence though to compare Catholics to Prots really would be: Catholics can be called a unified group in theology and belief, where the only unity in Protestants is basically in not being Catholic, what with there being so many denominations and sects and whatnot. View Quote |
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