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I looked at 1986 Trans AMs that had just been dropped off at a dealership. All of them had trim pieces falling off and the one I drove ran very rough. Salesman told me it was normal for their service department to have to "fine tune" vehicles fresh from the factory. I lost interest in these cars very quickly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The 1989 Trans Am's also had some of the worst quality control in a new car that I have seen. I worked at a Pontiac dealer back then and we received two of them, one had the hood stuck closed because of the paint on the underside of the hood and when they finally got it open big chunks of paint were stuck to all the rubber bumpers. It had to be like that when it left the company that final assembly was outsourced to. The other one ran like crap, spent tons of time in the service dept even after it was sold. |
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That's $10.34 more than my mortgage every month. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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The 1967 Shelby Mustangs utilized Mercury Cougar tail lights, while the 1968 models used lights from the ’66 Thunderbird. View Quote All '70 Shelby's were left over '69's that didn't sell. Black strips were added to the hood. The "ultra rare" (well, at one time it was) ashtray in the '69-'70 Shelby console was out of an earlier model Corvette. The guy that started NPD Mustang parts got his start selling arm rests for Mustangs with a built in ashtray. And here's where it gets fun. His son that now runs the business today had no idea it was a rear arm rest out of a '65 Fairlane. I had to tell him this one day on a forum were members of. |
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I didn't know they leased used cars now that's crazy View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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My best friend at the time purchased a 1980 or 81 Trans Am turbo back in 1984 with about 10K miles on it. That car never ran right, I think he went through 2 turbos on it before something finally broke in the engine. He replaced it with a 400 small block, THEN it actually ran right. View Quote |
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This is true, I've had way more interest in my Hellcat from men than women. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Awd is great for launching. Much easier to put the power to the ground. View Quote |
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I'm not sure the hellcats will be classics. The demons might if they keep the production down. View Quote |
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A friend of mine had one of the first LS1 Z-28s in Houston. I bought one about a year later. It was a trip to pull up next to bolt on modded 5.0 and 4.6 Mustangs, or modded LT1 cars, and them have no idea what just happened. It was a completely new animal. The first race I caught in mine, the dude had a 4.6 he'd spent a lot of time on. I missed a shift and still crushed him. He was so pissed he was yelling and throwing things. That was my first time on the "bought" side of the built vs bought argument. Felt good. Felt real good. I added some shit later. IIRC, the vette got the LS a year or so before the F body? View Quote Now I have a base Stingray. Already been 11.6 in it. Weather has sucked this season so I haven't had a good chance to make a hero run, but it's probably an 11 flat car with drag radials (which I have now) and good air. |
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1997 was the first year for the LS1. In a Corvette. Had one. Then a 2001 Z06 with the LS6. Legit 12 second car. Now I have a base Stingray. Already been 11.6 in it. Weather has sucked this season so I haven't had a good chance to make a hero run, but it's probably an 11 flat car with drag radials (which I have now) and good air. View Quote |
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1997 was the first year for the LS1. In a Corvette. Had one. Then a 2001 Z06 with the LS6. Legit 12 second car. Now I have a base Stingray. Already been 11.6 in it. Weather has sucked this season so I haven't had a good chance to make a hero run, but it's probably an 11 flat car with drag radials (which I have now) and good air. View Quote |
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I'm just waiting for Army75th to come back and tell us more about the few magic bolt ons that can make a Civic beat everything else on the road.
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Actually Moline, Illinois. Just a couple miles away. Right across the river. View Quote Those cops over there were pricks and I had to drive that route for work dropping off coworkers and would go from on end to the other and cops would hassle us. We were way over hs age at the time too Dated a girl that lived off the Ave and it was a pain in the ass going to see her |
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All cars have gotten stupid fast. View Quote Good times. |
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It's crazy. Before this Stingray, I had a 2014 Silverado (GenV L83, 5.3L FlexFuel). With drag radials, headers and a tune I went a best 13.90 with a crappy 1.98 60'. That's as good as most of the hot muscle cars back in the day. In a truck that weighs almost 5,000 lbs. Good times. View Quote |
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All that power and cant out do a honda with a few thousand dollars of add ons. My brother purchased a old honda civic for $500. Swapped the motor with a accura motor and a few add ons. total price when done, $6000 and he has been beating lambos, hell cats and an str10. all that money and a hell cat cant beat a civic at 1/4 the cost. View Quote |
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Not a Hellcat but I kind of want one of these:
Attached File It's a Mercedes R63 AMG and they only made them for one year and only about 100 in the US. A 507 HP minivan! |
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Plane I use to fly burned 60 gal per min on takeoff per engine. Zero to 250 knots
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Not a Hellcat but I kind of want one of these: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164962/IMG_1548-292270.JPG It's a Mercedes R63 AMG and they only made them for one year and only about 100 in the US. A 507 HP minivan! View Quote Soccer mom stuff man |
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Yes, but fucking fast soccer mom stuff! 0-60 in 4.6 with 5 friends I have a deposit down for the first Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio my dealer gets in. A little quicker at what's supposed to be 3.9 but only 5 passenger and less cargo space. View Quote |
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Yes, but fucking fast soccer mom stuff! 0-60 in 4.6 with 5 friends I have a deposit down for the first Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio my dealer gets in. A little quicker at what's supposed to be 3.9 but only 5 passenger and less cargo space. |
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All that power and cant out do a honda with a few thousand dollars of add ons. My brother purchased a old honda civic for $500. Swapped the motor with a accura motor and a few add ons. total price when done, $6000 and he has been beating lambos, hell cats and an str10. all that money and a hell cat cant beat a civic at 1/4 the cost. View Quote |
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All that power and cant out do a honda with a few thousand dollars of add ons. My brother purchased a old honda civic for $500. Swapped the motor with a accura motor and a few add ons. total price when done, $6000 and he has been beating lambos, hell cats and an str10. all that money and a hell cat cant beat a civic at 1/4 the cost. View Quote |
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Those were complete pieces of shit. Right up there with the caddy V8-6-4. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My best friend at the time purchased a 1980 or 81 Trans Am turbo back in 1984 with about 10K miles on it. That car never ran right, I think he went through 2 turbos on it before something finally broke in the engine. He replaced it with a 400 small block, THEN it actually ran right. |
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That's the kind of useless information I like telling people at dealerships. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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All that power and cant out do a honda with a few thousand dollars of add ons. My brother purchased a old honda civic for $500. Swapped the motor with a accura motor and a few add ons. total price when done, $6000 and he has been beating lambos, hell cats and an str10. all that money and a hell cat cant beat a civic at 1/4 the cost. View Quote |
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Um, no. They haven't been racing him. They have been driving slowly as he beats on his car flying past them for a "win". See it all the time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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All that power and cant out do a honda with a few thousand dollars of add ons. My brother purchased a old honda civic for $500. Swapped the motor with a accura motor and a few add ons. total price when done, $6000 and he has been beating lambos, hell cats and an str10. all that money and a hell cat cant beat a civic at 1/4 the cost. |
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Fuel lines are half-inch ......... Wide open, it burns 1.5 gallons of fuel per minute on it's way to 199MPH ........ "Normal" driving gets you 20MPG. Anybody know any similar stats on other factory muscle/sports cars? View Quote I don't know about the fuel per minute, or fuel lines, but my LS1 Corvette got 29MPG on the highway, and around 22 overall. |
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That's pretty good mileage. My car only gets a whopping 19 on the highway and 4 in town. Granted I am lucky to get 150 miles from a full tank.
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Totally agree, I don't remember the car ever running on all 8 cylinders until he replaced the motor and turbo with a slightly built 400 small block with carburetor. I mean, at the time it looked cool as hell (1984), but holy shit it was a dog. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My best friend at the time purchased a 1980 or 81 Trans Am turbo back in 1984 with about 10K miles on it. That car never ran right, I think he went through 2 turbos on it before something finally broke in the engine. He replaced it with a 400 small block, THEN it actually ran right. |
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Say what you want about Dodge but the Hellcat Charger I rode in was totally insane. My buddy driving, his '69 Dart with a 408 stroker doesn't feel as fast anymore. It's an 11 second car.
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I rented this dodge R/T from National last Friday out of the Minneapolis St. Paul airport.
So much fun! When you floor it and the gears change it makes the most satisfying ripping noise from the exhaust. I can only imagine what the Demon does. Attached File |
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Say what you want about Dodge but the Hellcat Charger I rode in was totally insane. My buddy driving, his '69 Dart with a 408 stroker doesn't feel as fast anymore. It's an 11 second car. View Quote |
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The SRT Hellcat's power to weight ratio is 6.19 pounds per HP. For a 67 MKIII 427 Shelby Cobra it was 4.85. The Cobra still beats it in the 1/4 mile and 0-60, the Hellcat has a much higher top speed.
An SRT Demon will beat the Cobra in either and at top speed, and it'll do a wheelie doing it. All three will absolutely murder your buddie's Honda Civic. |
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Reminds me of this post thats been going around a decade about TFD's some of this is old and probably more impressive now since they run faster now and iirc in excess of 10k hp...
* One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic-inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500. * Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1.25 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced. * A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to merely drive the dragster’s supercharger. * With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle. * At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F. * Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases. * Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder. * Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow. * If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half. * Dragsters reach over 300 MPH before you have completed reading this sentence. * In order to exceed 300 MPH in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4 G’s. In order to reach 200 MPH well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8 G’s. * Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! * Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load. * The redline is actually quite high at 9500 RPM. * THE BOTTOM LINE: Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, & for once, NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000 per second. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter-mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 MPH (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03, Doug Kalitta). Putting this all into perspective: Lets say the you are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged & ready to launch down a quarter-mile strip as you pass by it. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the ‘Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line & pass the dragster at an honest 200 MPH. Just as you pass the Top Fuel Dragster the ‘tree’ goes green for both of you. The dragster launches & starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums & within 3 seconds the dragster catches & passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it – from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 MPH & not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race! Here is a video of a fuel pump operation for one cylinder of 8 on a Top Fuel Dragster Top Fuel Dragster Fuel Pump Demo single cylinder |
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You can be ticketed here for "demonstration of power". Vague enough that there is a law for how quick you are. It was originally intended for squeeling tires when the light turned green. Brought to you by the same city that made it a crime for "unnecessary repetitive driving" because high school kids "cruised the avenue". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Remember, the speed limit is the speed limit, but there's no law against how fast you reach it! I have yet to be pulled over in mine, but that's probably because I spend more time watching for cops in the RVM than I do the road in front of me. |
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This is true, I've had way more interest in my Hellcat from men than women. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lambo driver went home and slayed loads of pussy. Old Honda civic driver just sucked dick If I wanted to pick up a guy I would have bought a miata. However my fiancee would get all sorts of crazy at the sound of it. Driving and even in the passenger seat. She knows real cars vs rice rockets, and I do own a rice rocket.... A series 5 RX7 Turbo. She knows good from bad. |
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The Demon is/will be overshadowing it, but Year one Hellcats have some good potential on account of the significance. In 30 years, Barrett-Jackson be talking about the shot across the industry bow, the 707hp factory warranted monster car that was surpassed by the Demon but it was the trailblazer, etc etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Reminds me of this post thats been going around a decade about TFD's some of this is old and probably more impressive now since they run faster now and iirc in excess of 10k hp... * One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic-inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500. * Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1.25 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced. * A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to merely drive the dragster’s supercharger. * With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle. * At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F. * Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases. * Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder. * Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow. * If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half. * Dragsters reach over 300 MPH before you have completed reading this sentence. * In order to exceed 300 MPH in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4 G’s. In order to reach 200 MPH well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8 G’s. * Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! * Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load. * The redline is actually quite high at 9500 RPM. * THE BOTTOM LINE: Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, & for once, NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000 per second. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter-mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 MPH (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03, Doug Kalitta). Putting this all into perspective: Lets say the you are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged & ready to launch down a quarter-mile strip as you pass by it. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the ‘Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line & pass the dragster at an honest 200 MPH. Just as you pass the Top Fuel Dragster the ‘tree’ goes green for both of you. The dragster launches & starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums & within 3 seconds the dragster catches & passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it – from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 MPH & not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race! Here is a video of a fuel pump operation for one cylinder of 8 on a Top Fuel Dragster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGTbQuhhluY View Quote Excellent post however there is a Honda out there that could do better than the Vette in your example |
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