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Link Posted: 8/11/2017 3:53:54 PM EST
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Yea the assholes who did this were not part of any cause. They must've been in pack mode... shame they weren't put down like dogs. Except I like dogs.
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Not saying they need put down, but don't be surprised when someone functioning in "normal traffic" mode isn't paying enough attention and plows into half a dozen red-light runners.
Link Posted: 8/11/2017 3:55:03 PM EST
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If you're purposely blocking a green light so others can run a red, you should be plowed. And preferably not live through it.
Link Posted: 8/11/2017 4:17:55 PM EST
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If you're purposely blocking a green light so others can run a red, you should be plowed. And preferably not live through it.
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Does that include funeral processions ?
Link Posted: 8/11/2017 4:19:56 PM EST
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I used to love riding but now that I'm older. Screw it I value my life to much. I've run way to many calls of motorcycle vs car.  These stupid ass northern transplants from up North moving down here drive like fools and have increased Florida's population so much compared back to when I use to ride.
People drive like absolute idiot's and do not pay attention to who or what's going on around them.
Link Posted: 8/11/2017 4:20:35 PM EST
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Does that include funeral processions ?
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No, we were talking about the "pack" mentality.
Link Posted: 8/12/2017 4:38:31 PM EST
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So you suggest stopping on an exit ramp so you can all get rear-ended by the next guy not paying attention?

What kind of Harley do you ride?
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I have no idea of the situation but feel like it was made up.  Motorcycles don't even take up much space and off ramps usually have shoulders on them.  The entire thing sounded like BS.  But nice job white knighting Harley haters.  You even say you are not a Harley hater and then ask me what kind I ride.

I ride an adventure bike and a dual sport.  I wish it had louder pipes but they are expensive.

You don't understand how to drive safely?  You don't know what following distances are?  There is always a safe speed and sometimes it's 0 MPH.  Or maybe I'm just a bit cautious being a utility worker and holding a CDL.  Having to constantly avoid dangerous situations that other drivers cause.  Almost being killing too many times to count while working on the side of the road.

Have fun bashing Harley riders over and over again I guess.
Link Posted: 8/13/2017 1:45:23 PM EST
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Some big groups are riding for a "cause" which must mean traffic laws don't apply to them, else they get separated on their way from one place to another to raise awareness for something somewhere.

Granted, some groups do some real good, but what you're talking about is usually more about staying with the pack.
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Why do some of the large groups do the thing where they will block a green-light intersection to let the rest of their group make it through a (now red) light?
That happened to someone I know a few week back.
Some big groups are riding for a "cause" which must mean traffic laws don't apply to them, else they get separated on their way from one place to another to raise awareness for something somewhere.

Granted, some groups do some real good, but what you're talking about is usually more about staying with the pack.
Unless the State has a law on the books allowing a group to do so, or they are being escorted by the police (who will block the intersection), it is illegal for one or two of them to block the intersection so that the entire group can get through the light. The few times that i have ridden with a large group, this was addressed as "stop at the fucking light, the person up front assumes the lead, catch up with the rest of the group as traffic permits". The smart thing to do is scatter sub-lead riders throughout the group for such an occurrence.
Link Posted: 8/13/2017 6:04:16 PM EST
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I have no idea of the situation but feel like it was made up.  Motorcycles don't even take up much space and off ramps usually have shoulders on them.  The entire thing sounded like BS.  But nice job white knighting Harley haters.  You even say you are not a Harley hater and then ask me what kind I ride.

I ride an adventure bike and a dual sport.  I wish it had louder pipes but they are expensive.

You don't understand how to drive safely?  You don't know what following distances are?  There is always a safe speed and sometimes it's 0 MPH.  Or maybe I'm just a bit cautious being a utility worker and holding a CDL.  Having to constantly avoid dangerous situations that other drivers cause.  Almost being killing too many times to count while working on the side of the road.

Have fun bashing Harley riders over and over again I guess.  
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All I'll say to that is stereotypes exist for a reason.
Link Posted: 8/13/2017 6:12:03 PM EST
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Good thing you never see idiot's in cars do stupid shit, hey.
Link Posted: 8/13/2017 11:19:53 PM EST
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Good thing you never see idiot's in cars do stupid shit, hey.
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Well said.
Link Posted: 8/13/2017 11:34:54 PM EST
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Does that include funeral processions ?
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The dead guy is not in a hurry to be put in the ground,  why the rush?
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 6:21:26 AM EST
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All I'll say to that is stereotypes exist for a reason.
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Yep, they do. Except there's no need to stereotype you as you do it all on your own already.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 6:31:58 AM EST
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Yep, they do. Except there's no need to stereotype you as you do it all on your own already.
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Please elaborate.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 7:42:52 AM EST
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Take your flaces gentlemen.
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I have a flace hoodie that I use when layering for bad weather.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 8:14:11 AM EST
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I believe (correct me if wrong) that if the opposing light is red, it is legal to block/hold traffic for the rest of the group to get through.
    It keeps the group together, moving, and not constantly breaking formation to keep up and have cars in between them.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 8:50:26 AM EST
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I used to love riding but now that I'm older. Screw it I value my life to much. I've run way to many calls of motorcycle vs car.  These stupid ass northern transplants from up North moving down here drive like fools and have increased Florida's population so much compared back to when I use to ride.
People drive like absolute idiot's and do not pay attention to who or what's going on around them.
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Fellow Tampon here. With all the blue hairs and jitterbuggers texting we have down here you must have a death wish to ride in an urban environment here.

My solution, Along with the vision acuity test have sit in video driving simulators at the DMV. A test you have to pass whenever you renew your licenses after 70 years old. Check their reaction times, depth perception, tailgating, turn signal use, stop sign, red light reaction time and how many buildings they crash into when they forget what pedal does what.

Hell, test first time drivers as well.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 8:59:11 AM EST
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I believe (correct me if wrong) that if the opposing light is red, it is legal to block/hold traffic for the rest of the group to get through.
It keeps the group together, moving, and not constantly breaking formation to keep up and have cars in between them.
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I believe (correct me if wrong) that if the opposing light is red, it is legal to block/hold traffic for the rest of the group to get through.
It keeps the group together, moving, and not constantly breaking formation to keep up and have cars in between them.
Depends on the state. In most it is not legal, and in the ones where it is, you must be a "certified road guard"
Enforcement may or may not be strict depending on the area.

Minnesota for example:
Passed in 2012, this program allows motorcyclists to be certified as traffic controllers, trained in flagging operations, intersection traffic control, the rules of the road and group ride instruction.
There are other requirements, including qualification standards, a clear driving record, valid driver’s license, individual liability insurance and proper high visibility apparel. Classroom study is two hours long followed by one hour of practical training at a live intersection near one of several colleges that offer the course. The cost is $30. Not a bad investment for organizations, motorcycle clubs, riding clubs, etc. At Road Guardians, we feel the basic Accident Scene Management course should be considered as part of the curriculum for traffic controllers also, as part of the certification requirements.
If you are not in one of these states, and certified, (or have LEO consenting and present) and you are blocking an intersection, you can be held personally liable for any accidents resulting from your actions.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 9:29:58 AM EST
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So much sand , so many vaginas lol
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 10:05:09 AM EST
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Please elaborate.
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Elaborate on your hate for harley riders and how you're stereotyping them in this thread, lol, no need to elaborate, one only needs to read your replies, I'm not the only one that has noticed it from you either.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 10:58:08 AM EST
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This weekend's episode was me doing 35 in a 35 and a blue hair lady passes me in the center turning lane.  Then 100 yards later makes a right tun into a ( her ? ) subdivision.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 10:59:40 AM EST
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I like the faux bikers who stand on the side of the road with signs that read "watch out for motorcycles", waving them at drivers. Hey! I can't watch for motorcycles if I'm reading your sign genius.
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I have never seen this. Is it a common occurrence?
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 11:03:15 AM EST
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This weekend's episode was me doing 35 in a 35 and a blue hair lady passes me in the center turning lane.  Then 100 yards later makes a right tun into a ( her ? ) subdivision.
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She was upset at you for riding your motorcycle within the speed limit.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 11:14:22 AM EST
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Take your flaces gentlemen.
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I think he's shitflaced.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 11:19:02 AM EST
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She was upset at you for riding your motorcycle within the speed limit.
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This weekend's episode was me doing 35 in a 35 and a blue hair lady passes me in the center turning lane.  Then 100 yards later makes a right tun into a ( her ? ) subdivision.
She was upset at you for riding your motorcycle within the speed limit.
Who knows ?

Surprised the hell out of me when she was coming up on my left.  Then damn near immediately turning....

Like she was trying to mess with me.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 11:20:26 AM EST
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Who knows ?

Surprised the hell out of me when she was coming up on my left.  Then damn near immediately turning....

Like she was trying to mess with me.
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I swear they do.  People with handicap plates are pretty bad about doing stuff like that too.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 11:52:38 AM EST
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Elaborate on your hate for harley riders and how you're stereotyping them in this thread, lol, no need to elaborate, one only needs to read your replies, I'm not the only one that has noticed it from you either.
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Hey, I didn't create the stereotype, the portion of riders that we've all been referencing did.  Every group has a few bad apples, it's just been my personal experience that some groups have more bad apples than others.  Read each of my posts and tell me you haven't encountered a similar event/attitude at some point during your riding/driving career.  

I've helped just as many Harley riders out of the ditch as I have supermotos over the years, and I'm not even usually riding with Harleys...
Too bad I never have my helmet camera with me for the entertaining ones...

Some of my favorites, the first one is mine.









Link Posted: 8/14/2017 12:14:52 PM EST
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Harleys don't piss me off.  It's just a motorcycle.
Stereotypical (not all) Harley riders do annoy the crap out of me, when there's not a good way to avoid them.

-BRUB!...BRUB!...BRUB! at every redlight like it won't idle if you don't rev it ever 2 seconds.

-"why don't you sell that rice burner and get a real bike?"

-Stagger or side by side riding taking all of every available lane where you can't get around the pirate parade
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Link Posted: 8/14/2017 12:20:32 PM EST
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Hey, I didn't create the stereotype, the portion of riders that we've all been referencing did.  Every group has a few bad apples, it's just been my personal experience that some groups have more bad apples than others.  Read each of my posts and tell me you haven't encountered a similar event/attitude at some point during your riding/driving career.  

I've helped just as many Harley riders out of the ditch as I have supermotos over the years, and I'm not even usually riding with Harleys...
Too bad I never have my helmet camera with me for the entertaining ones...

Some of my favorites, the first one is mine.

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/988731_10101074567180678_1553154127_n.jpg?oh=46d29e65c92a931e286da7db437d2809&oe=5A2CAB56

http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12116&stc=1&d=1184962982

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aEeUHGoBh-M/TbFtEaWP97I/AAAAAAAAA8w/_kHEIpfKmEI/s400/crash-hands3-killboy-com.jpg

http://bamarides.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/2.jpg

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/sites/motorcyclistonline.com/files/styles/large_1x_/public/import/page_element_images/146_0706_08_z%2Brandom_crashes%2Brear_view.jpg?itok=nllMwWA7
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You are the worse kind of hypocrite.  If only everyone was as talented and awesome as you.  

Did a Harley rider not wave at you and put that huge chip on your shoulder?

Usually the people who don't understand what riding is about spend all their time bad mouthing other brands of motorcycles.  Too stupid to see what it's all about and too stubborn to learn.

I'm sure there are zero pictures all over the internet of every other type of motorcycle doing the exact same thing on those exact same corners.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 12:22:14 PM EST
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You are the worse kind of hypocrite.  If only everyone was as talented and awesome as you.  
Did a Harley rider not wave at you and put that huge chip on your shoulder?
Usually the people who don't understand what riding is about spend all their time bad mouthing other brands of motorcycles.  Too stupid to see what it's all about and too stubborn to learn.
I'm sure there are zero pictures all over the internet of every other type of motorcycle doing the exact same thing on those exact same corners.
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You are the worse kind of hypocrite.  If only everyone was as talented and awesome as you.  
Did a Harley rider not wave at you and put that huge chip on your shoulder?
Usually the people who don't understand what riding is about spend all their time bad mouthing other brands of motorcycles.  Too stupid to see what it's all about and too stubborn to learn.
I'm sure there are zero pictures all over the internet of every other type of motorcycle doing the exact same thing on those exact same corners.
You obviously haven't read the rest of my replies...

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Harleys don't piss me off.  It's just a motorcycle.
Stereotypical (not all) Harley riders do annoy the crap out of me, when there's not a good way to avoid them.

-BRUB!...BRUB!...BRUB! at every redlight like it won't idle if you don't rev it ever 2 seconds.

-"why don't you sell that rice burner and get a real bike?"

-Stagger or side by side riding taking all of every available lane where you can't get around the pirate parade
Ride your ride, let others ride theirs, but once you start taking yourself too seriously after watching too many seasons of SOA, it's all downhill from there.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 12:30:25 PM EST
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He's more leaning, rather than weaving, and the speed is not shown.  Geez, do we have any real riders on AFRCOM that immediately know what gyrscopic effect is, and counter-steering?  One cannot pass the MSF class without being trained and demonstrating it.

I can lean too, to the point where my floor boards scrap the pavement.  
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You keep posting like you know things... yet the things you post show you know nothing. It's weird.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 12:32:42 PM EST
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Unless the State has a law on the books allowing a group to do so, or they are being escorted by the police (who will block the intersection), it is illegal for one or two of them to block the intersection so that the entire group can get through the light. The few times that i have ridden with a large group, this was addressed as "stop at the fucking light, the person up front assumes the lead, catch up with the rest of the group as traffic permits". The smart thing to do is scatter sub-lead riders throughout the group for such an occurrence.
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Why do some of the large groups do the thing where they will block a green-light intersection to let the rest of their group make it through a (now red) light?
That happened to someone I know a few week back.
Some big groups are riding for a "cause" which must mean traffic laws don't apply to them, else they get separated on their way from one place to another to raise awareness for something somewhere.

Granted, some groups do some real good, but what you're talking about is usually more about staying with the pack.
Unless the State has a law on the books allowing a group to do so, or they are being escorted by the police (who will block the intersection), it is illegal for one or two of them to block the intersection so that the entire group can get through the light. The few times that i have ridden with a large group, this was addressed as "stop at the fucking light, the person up front assumes the lead, catch up with the rest of the group as traffic permits". The smart thing to do is scatter sub-lead riders throughout the group for such an occurrence.
Not if you have a city-issued parade permit.

Which is how it's done in my neck of the woods.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 1:23:13 PM EST
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You are the worse kind of hypocrite.  If only everyone was as talented and awesome as you.  

Did a Harley rider not wave at you and put that huge chip on your shoulder?

Usually the people who don't understand what riding is about spend all their time bad mouthing other brands of motorcycles.  Too stupid to see what it's all about and too stubborn to learn.

I'm sure there are zero pictures all over the internet of every other type of motorcycle doing the exact same thing on those exact same corners.
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I dunno about him, my Harley hate started when I was at Sturgis in the 90s as a kid. I was surrounded by HAs and Hangarounds, people constantly getting picked up for drugs or weapons charges. People who thought the law didn't apply to them. Intentionally trying to be anti-American while pretending it was patriotic to fight the police and abuse their spouses.

Now these "average" Harley riders seem to dress, ride, and behave as if to emulate the "biker" persona I grew up around. Except they're no outlaws, and they don't fight the police.

So they're weird posers, pretending to be criminals. Who wants to pretend to be a gang member who hates civil society? No one I want anything to do with. So yeah, I hate em. Because life experience has taught me that they're either bad people, or posers trying to use image of criminals as fake street cred.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 4:47:00 PM EST
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Not if you have a city-issued parade permit.

Which is how it's done in my neck of the woods.
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Why do some of the large groups do the thing where they will block a green-light intersection to let the rest of their group make it through a (now red) light?
That happened to someone I know a few week back.
Some big groups are riding for a "cause" which must mean traffic laws don't apply to them, else they get separated on their way from one place to another to raise awareness for something somewhere.

Granted, some groups do some real good, but what you're talking about is usually more about staying with the pack.
Unless the State has a law on the books allowing a group to do so, or they are being escorted by the police (who will block the intersection), it is illegal for one or two of them to block the intersection so that the entire group can get through the light. The few times that i have ridden with a large group, this was addressed as "stop at the fucking light, the person up front assumes the lead, catch up with the rest of the group as traffic permits". The smart thing to do is scatter sub-lead riders throughout the group for such an occurrence.
Not if you have a city-issued parade permit.

Which is how it's done in my neck of the woods.
That was the thing I was not sure of...but how many groups actually get a permit unless it is a charity ride or similar?
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 4:52:13 PM EST
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You obviously haven't read the rest of my replies...

Ride your ride, let others ride theirs, but once you start taking yourself too seriously after watching too many seasons of SOA, it's all downhill from there.
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You are the worse kind of hypocrite.  If only everyone was as talented and awesome as you.  
Did a Harley rider not wave at you and put that huge chip on your shoulder?
Usually the people who don't understand what riding is about spend all their time bad mouthing other brands of motorcycles.  Too stupid to see what it's all about and too stubborn to learn.
I'm sure there are zero pictures all over the internet of every other type of motorcycle doing the exact same thing on those exact same corners.
You obviously haven't read the rest of my replies...

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Harleys don't piss me off.  It's just a motorcycle.
Stereotypical (not all) Harley riders do annoy the crap out of me, when there's not a good way to avoid them.

-BRUB!...BRUB!...BRUB! at every redlight like it won't idle if you don't rev it ever 2 seconds.

-"why don't you sell that rice burner and get a real bike?"

-Stagger or side by side riding taking all of every available lane where you can't get around the pirate parade
Ride your ride, let others ride theirs, but once you start taking yourself too seriously after watching too many seasons of SOA, it's all downhill from there.
He doesn't get it man and he never will.
Link Posted: 8/14/2017 6:32:06 PM EST
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