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Posted: 12/18/2020 9:46:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How long before TFB guy gets it and pulls "I never shot the p90 but this Keltec is better in every way" well both the P50 and P90 are useless but the P50 will be cheaper so it is better in every way. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 9:47:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I WANT to buy it, and try to have a couple dealers order it.... But on like the last 5 cool new things before this.... They only made a handful and aren't shipping more arrrrgggggg so you can never get one. DAMMIT. I still want a CP33 and a bunch of 50rd mags for it. To put a can, IR laser, IR red dot on and go have quit fun at night... It's perfect. But I swear they only made like 50 of them then moved on to something else.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Keltec is always making cool shit, but I never buy it, because it's made by Keltec...  I WANT to buy it, and try to have a couple dealers order it.... But on like the last 5 cool new things before this.... They only made a handful and aren't shipping more arrrrgggggg so you can never get one. DAMMIT. I still want a CP33 and a bunch of 50rd mags for it. To put a can, IR laser, IR red dot on and go have quit fun at night... It's perfect. But I swear they only made like 50 of them then moved on to something else.... I was at a gunshow last weekend and saw easily a half dozen CP33s. There are plenty out there. I have yet to see a P17 in person yet or I’d have bought it. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 9:49:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So god damn ugly that it becomes beautiful. Like a Suzuki Hayabusa or a Ford GT40 I read this 4 times trying to see if someone really called the GT40 ugly  The F-4 Phantom,ugly beautiful. The GT40 is just hot AF. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 9:49:15 PM EDT
[#4]
Perfect timing with 5.7 at $1.50 a round and the brace situation.
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Posted: 12/18/2020 9:49:57 PM EDT
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I like it. Have a P32 in my boot right now and a suppressed SUB-2000 w/ my Inforce on it for the house gun. I kinda miss the CMR-30.
Hope it's more forgiving of magazine variances than the AR 57 upper was. It looks hinged, like it breaks open to the front. Maybe it comes out the side, but if it does, looks like it would have to pop out on the right, doesn't look as if there's enough room for it to pop out to the left. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 9:50:18 PM EDT
[#6]
what the hell
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Posted: 12/18/2020 9:53:54 PM EDT
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I photoshopped this together a while back, maybe something like it would be a bit better?
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Posted: 12/18/2020 9:56:35 PM EDT
[#8]
What a disgusting abomination
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Posted: 12/18/2020 10:00:55 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What a disgusting abomination Glad you like it. Are you pre-ordering, or waiting till you see one on the shelf? |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 10:07:04 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad you like it. Are you pre-ordering, or waiting till you see one on the shelf? I know i am buying the first one i find available. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 10:19:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know i am buying the first one i find available. I've come to the conclusion it's better to get in on the 2nd or 3rd run when Keltec is involved. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 10:26:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Keltec is always making cool shit, but I never buy it, because it's made by Keltec... They're America's most innovative firearms company. They just also happen to have America's least reliable quality control. It's a brutal paradox. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 10:54:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're America's most innovative firearms company. They just also happen to have America's least reliable quality control. It's a brutal paradox. I think they're still ahead of Century. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 10:57:59 PM EDT
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Why isn’t keltec a design house that passes production on to other, more capable outfits?
Cool ideas and designs, horrible production resulting in shit-tier firearms. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:04:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you change the mag Does it pop out the side???It has 50 rds. Who needs reloading. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:10:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why isn’t keltec a design house that passes production on to other, more capable outfits? Cool ideas and designs, horrible production resulting in shit-tier firearms. Where do you think Ruger and Taurus got their .380 designs? |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:14:18 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why isn’t keltec a design house that passes production on to other, more capable outfits? Cool ideas and designs, horrible production resulting in shit-tier firearms. Why would they stop doing what's been so successful for them? In my experience the quality problems with Kel-Tecs are grossly over exaggerated. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:16:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perfect timing with 5.7 at $1.50 a round and the brace situation. If the reviews were decent, I'd absolutely buy one! |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:17:45 PM EDT
[#19]
I guess people can't try new things. It's either a new $1800 AR15 with some over-the-top cerakote with machined stupid gills or die.
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:24:16 PM EDT
[#20]
Love the Keltecs I have. No issues. Finally got this from my LGS last night. Now the wait begins.
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:44:10 PM EDT
[#21]
How do you reload it?
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:47:44 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryLooks like it pivots up at the rear. There appears to be a hinge at the front. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:49:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryStripper clips. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:52:48 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like it pivots up at the rear. There appears to be a hinge at the front. Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet it’s super awkward. |
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Posted: 12/18/2020 11:58:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly this. Used to shoot 2 gun against the Kel Tec assemblers when I worked for a gun company not far down the road. One weekend a guy showed up with his girlfriend dressed in boy shorts and a tube top. Ok, most ARF members would think this is a good thing, except this chick was covered in scabs from the meth use. This was common with most of the guys also, from what I could see. The guys thankfully didn't wear boy shorts and tube tops. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 12:01:42 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet it’s super awkward. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bet it’s super awkward. With 50 round mags speedy reloads probably aren't high on the priority list. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 12:05:11 AM EDT
[#27]
Keltec is the only business I know of making innovative guns so far.
I have to say their ks7 looks really appealing |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 12:11:53 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You lost me at Kel-tec What, you don't like having to fluff & buff your weapon and do all sorts of other things to make it reliable? |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 12:23:46 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What, you don't like having to fluff & buff your weapon and do all sorts of other things to make it reliable? I have a (later model) PMR-30 and a CP33. The only problem I've ever had was a broken firing pin on the PMR. Dem aay are fifteens ain't so reliable as a good mini-14! |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 1:34:12 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a (later model) PMR-30 and a CP33. The only problem I've ever had was a broken firing pin on the PMR. Dem aay are fifteens ain't so reliable as a good mini-14! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What, you don't like having to fluff & buff your weapon and do all sorts of other things to make it reliable? I have a (later model) PMR-30 and a CP33. The only problem I've ever had was a broken firing pin on the PMR. Dem aay are fifteens ain't so reliable as a good mini-14! My CP33 and CMR30 have been bulletproof as well. Boringly reliable and accurate. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 1:37:19 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Last week, I got a box of AE for $29. They only allowed 1, so that's all I got, and at this store that is only about a $5 premium over 2019. If the reviews were decent, I'd absolutely buy one! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Perfect timing with 5.7 at $1.50 a round and the brace situation. If the reviews were decent, I'd absolutely buy one! Yeah, I'm sure it dribbles in occasionally at a good price but have not seen a drop in months. I wanted a PS90 and could buy one at a reasonable price but missed the boat on ammo so have pretty much given up.
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Posted: 12/19/2020 1:40:21 AM EDT
[#32]
I hate 5.7 but that thing fucks
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Posted: 12/19/2020 1:55:20 AM EDT
[#33]
Do want
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Posted: 12/19/2020 1:58:09 AM EDT
[#34]
Well shit, at the rate of 1 shipped a month it should only take a few hundred years to get hold of one.......
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:05:30 AM EDT
[#35]
At the current price of 5.7, one mag would probably be close to the price of the gun, and about as hard to find.
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:06:05 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You lost me at Kel-tec |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:14:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:20:17 AM EDT
[#38]
 Kel-Tec firearm designer admonishing a wayward production worker. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:31:54 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh that's fuckin cool |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:33:35 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: well both the P50 and P90 are useless but the P50 will be cheaper so it is better in every way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How long before TFB guy gets it and pulls "I never shot the p90 but this Keltec is better in every way" well both the P50 and P90 are useless but the P50 will be cheaper so it is better in every way. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:40:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: P90 is the opposite of useless, best subgun ever. Why do you say that? Why were they not used by many agencies? |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:47:51 AM EDT
[#42]
That's pretty cool, but with ammo priced like it is now, I'd rather just use it out of a PS90, which is 3/4 of the fun anyway.
I guess if you had a bunch of 5.7 collecting dust and wanted a carbine-type thing to shoot it through, yeah, sure. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:52:45 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Neva bin dunn befo... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399622/6CB495A2-533C-46A9-B613-5661302554E8-102-1737927.JPG If they could have gotten those helical drums to work better and had a better gun design (like a Bizon for example) they'd sell like crazy nowadays. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 2:58:21 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they could have gotten those helical drums to work better and had a better gun design (like a Bizon for example) they'd sell like crazy nowadays. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Neva bin dunn befo... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399622/6CB495A2-533C-46A9-B613-5661302554E8-102-1737927.JPG If they could have gotten those helical drums to work better and had a better gun design (like a Bizon for example) they'd sell like crazy nowadays. Bizon would be the shizzle. The calico having the sights on the magazine was stupid tho. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 3:13:16 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 2032 Same as the year it will be available locally. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's the msrp? 2032 Same as the year it will be available locally. We have a Bingo! |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 3:14:51 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you say that? Why were they not used by many agencies? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: P90 is the opposite of useless, best subgun ever. Why do you say that? Why were they not used by many agencies? I'm also pretty sure that while the standard secret service switched to AR's some of the presidential protection detail still carry p90's |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 3:15:18 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This man kel-tecs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's fucking stupid, I want 2 This man kel-tecs. Yes, he do. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 3:28:47 AM EDT
[#48]
I don't get it.
Plus it's still a keltec 
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Posted: 12/19/2020 3:30:57 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keltec is always making cool shit, but I never buy it, because it's made by Keltec... They are truly very innovative but their fit and finish and feel is pretty meh. |
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Posted: 12/19/2020 3:42:20 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you say that? Why were they not used by many agencies? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: P90 is the opposite of useless, best subgun ever. Why do you say that? Why were they not used by many agencies? Agencies are using long arms in an offensive capacity (serving of warrants, liquidation of lunatics.) For that the P90 does not offer any advantage. The P90/PS90's advantage is as a Personal Defense Weapon. Compact, great balance that can be used with one hand, low recoil, huge capacity. With a zero'd red dot, pretty much anyone could fire one easily - my grandma or a 10 year old child could fire one accurately. The primary advantage of it though is for a SHTF weapon where one is forced to leave their house. 5.7x28 weighs 6.5g, 1/2 the weight of 5.56 or 9mm. So you could carry 2x the amount of ammunition. The ammo is also very compact - not much larger then a 50rd pack of .22lr; 100rds can fit in the cargo pocket of a pair of pants; a jacket pocket could fit 200rds. PS90 with Red Dot = 6.6lbs 4x 50rd loaded magazines = 4lbs 500 brick of SS198 = 7.25lbs PS90 + 4x mags + 500rds (700rds total) = 17.85lbs |
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