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Link Posted: 9/5/2022 9:38:27 PM EST
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Bro, Ukraine is the money laundering capital of the world.  All of these shitstains launder their illegal funds through Ukraine.   That's what our "elected" officials are doing right now.
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We're sending it to DC and Russia?
Bro, Ukraine is the money laundering capital of the world.  All of these shitstains launder their illegal funds through Ukraine.   That's what our "elected" officials are doing right now.


Really? Proof?

Regardless, allowing people to get murdered and a nation to be subjugated is not cool.

I don’t know how you launder a himars, but hey. I’m all ears
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 9:39:40 PM EST
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So no source for the #1 corruption.
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For what? Have you never heard of these things?
So no source for the #1 corruption.


You’ll have to take that up with the guy that posted it.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 9:44:41 PM EST
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its fucking life. Life goes on during war, how many thots were getting wasted and laid in London and Paris while the battle of the Bulge transpired?  Even during the darkest days of WW2 the Soviets were able to find resources to support Art and celebration, why you lot think Ukraine is somehow different I will not understand. You know as well I do that people still get married, have birthdays and celebrate life while in a war zone. Did you refuse to call your kids on their birthday from Iraq, because it was taking away your focus on the war?
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This literal city was fucking shelled and attacked by the Russian fuck army a few months ago.

I don’t think anyone on this site knows how they feel. How emotionally tired and exhausted they are knowing that they are literally being invaded by a superpower.

Saigon was probably a hell of party town in 1970. So was London in 1943.  

No lack of friends of mine who were doing hash inside the wire to wind down in Astan(I never served but I work with those who did for clarity) or doing hash on patrol outside the wire.

Drugs, music, lady friends, and Joe on break go together like peanut butter and jelly.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 9:56:07 PM EST
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Really? Proof?

Regardless, allowing people to get murdered and a nation to be subjugated is not cool.

I don’t know how you launder a himars, but hey. I’m all ears
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Bro, Ukraine is the money laundering capital of the world.  All of these shitstains launder their illegal funds through Ukraine.   That's what our "elected" officials are doing right now.


Really? Proof?

Regardless, allowing people to get murdered and a nation to be subjugated is not cool.

I don’t know how you launder a himars, but hey. I’m all ears

I too am open to such a proposition.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:00:34 PM EST
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Those bastards!! Dancing and being entertained during a war and all...


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Mickey Rooney
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Bob Hope performs for service men at Munda Airstrip in the Solomon Islands in October 1944.
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Lol, that isn’t the USO in Kviv.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:04:53 PM EST
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I too am open to such a proposition.
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We're sending it to DC and Russia?
Bro, Ukraine is the money laundering capital of the world.  All of these shitstains launder their illegal funds through Ukraine.   That's what our "elected" officials are doing right now.


Really? Proof?

Regardless, allowing people to get murdered and a nation to be subjugated is not cool.

I don’t know how you launder a himars, but hey. I’m all ears

I too am open to such a proposition.


You’ve never heard of kickbacks?

Pay 120%+ and get 20%+ kicked back. It’s not difficult to conceal…
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:05:25 PM EST
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:07:24 PM EST
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.
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This X all the billions we sent Ukraine.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:07:38 PM EST
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Lol, that isn’t the USO in Kviv.
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It’s America during ww2.

Or were we not at war?

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Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:10:34 PM EST
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You’ve never heard of kickbacks?

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So the US government is buying HIMARS at 120%, then getting 20% back from Lockheed? That means they are just buying it at regular price, AKA 100%.

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I should add- I know how kickbacks work, but I seriously doubt US support for Ukraine is yet another leftist plot. Stopping Russia is something that needs to be done, regardless of who is in the White House.

Trump sent military support there as well, and you didn’t start a single thread about T$ getting kickbacks for Javelins.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:13:37 PM EST
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Funny how those accusations started in 2014 after Russia lost much of their influence in Ukraine.
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Funny.  I've been there and paid off some of their government officials.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:15:11 PM EST
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This is true.

Ukraine will join the EU.  The Euro will soon be their national currency.
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Poland still hasn’t adopted the Euro, so I don’t think Ukraine will anytime soon.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:17:16 PM EST
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Funny.  I've been there and paid off some of their government officials.
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Funny how those accusations started in 2014 after Russia lost much of their influence in Ukraine.
Funny.  I've been there and paid off some of their government officials.

In what capacity? Business?
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:19:45 PM EST
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So the US government is buying HIMARS at 120%, then getting 20% back from Lockheed? That means they are just buying it at regular price, AKA 100%.

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So the US government is buying HIMARS at 120%, then getting 20% back from Lockheed? That means they are just buying it at regular price, AKA 100%.

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He missed a joke. fadedsun and I are both of the military vehicle enthusiast variety.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:20:31 PM EST
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So the US government is buying HIMARS at 120%, then getting 20% back from Lockheed? That means they are just buying it at regular price, AKA 100%.

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You’ve never heard of kickbacks?

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So the US government is buying HIMARS at 120%, then getting 20% back from Lockheed? That means they are just buying it at regular price, AKA 100%.

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20% or whatever it is to the “big guy”… wow.. how do you think Hunter did all his deals? He practically gave everyone the fucking blueprint for how to make courrupt deals


Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:21:47 PM EST
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.
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I really wish I knew how to word things as nicely as you do, because I agree with you.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:21:53 PM EST
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Lol, I see alot of comments about military age males in the pics.. why?  Are alot of those posters kids? Do they not understand life in a war? Never been? Don't give a shit? Or just ignorant?  Or think blowing off steam doesn't actually happen in war zones? City's not under occupation are supposed to shutter? No stores open? City and private employees that do work to keep the economy going not allowed out at night?  These comments have to be some of the lowest IQ thoughts ever.. ??

Or alot of these posters here are way up past there bed time.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:24:48 PM EST
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I really wish I knew how to word things as nicely as you do, because I agree with you.
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.

I really wish I knew how to word things as nicely as you do, because I agree with you.

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So I guess you guys weren't fans of Trump sending lethal aid to Ukraine?

Trump to seek $250M in new lethal aid to Ukraine - December 4, 2019
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:26:45 PM EST
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.

I really wish I knew how to word things as nicely as you do, because I agree with you.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/nhkbwyqpjto81_jpg-2516084.JPG

So I guess you guys weren't fans of Trump sending lethal aid to Ukraine?

Trump to seek $250M in new lethal aid to Ukraine - December 4, 2019


I hate facts. Q predicted this.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:27:51 PM EST
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In what capacity? Business?
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Business in their way of thinking.  Yes, but not really.  It's their government's system.  The police wave you over for nothing illegal and take a payoff.  A judge agreed to a financial "settlement" but the berates you for coming to Ukraine and decrees that you must pay for his new office furniture.  I'm not going further up the food chain but I could.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:28:29 PM EST
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I hate facts. Q predicted this.
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.

I really wish I knew how to word things as nicely as you do, because I agree with you.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/nhkbwyqpjto81_jpg-2516084.JPG

So I guess you guys weren't fans of Trump sending lethal aid to Ukraine?

Trump to seek $250M in new lethal aid to Ukraine - December 4, 2019


I hate facts. Q predicted this.


Yup, sure did.

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Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:28:34 PM EST
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20% or whatever it is to the “big guy”… wow.. how do you think Hunter did all his deals? He practically gave everyone the fucking blueprint for how to make courrupt deals


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I do not believe he has any role in US military support or financial aid to Ukraine.  

The best I can tell, he was involved in laundering money from the Chinese and in peddling influence, or attempts to do so.  Smoked crack, too.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:29:03 PM EST
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Business in their way of thinking.  Yes, but not really.  It's their government's system.  The police wave you over for nothing illegal and take a payoff.  A judge agreed to a financial "settlement" but the berates you for coming to Ukraine and decrees that you must pay for his new office furniture.  I'm not going further up the food chain but I could.
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In what capacity? Business?
Business in their way of thinking.  Yes, but not really.  It's their government's system.  The police wave you over for nothing illegal and take a payoff.  A judge agreed to a financial "settlement" but the berates you for coming to Ukraine and decrees that you must pay for his new office furniture.  I'm not going further up the food chain but I could.

Was going to suggest avoiding admitted to any potential FCPA violations on a public forum known to be monitored by Feds.

ETA: My former employer was fined a lot of money for violating FCPA by bribing officials in Russia, China, and Indonesia and I had to sit through the training sessions because of it.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:30:50 PM EST
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It’s America during ww2.

Or were we not at war?

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That still isn’t the USO.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:31:28 PM EST
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Q Predicted that Trump would sell arms to Ukraine?
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:31:32 PM EST
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.

I really wish I knew how to word things as nicely as you do, because I agree with you.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/nhkbwyqpjto81_jpg-2516084.JPG

So I guess you guys weren't fans of Trump sending lethal aid to Ukraine?

Trump to seek $250M in new lethal aid to Ukraine - December 4, 2019


I hate facts. Q predicted this.


Yup, sure did.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/AC228633-209E-450C-A5A0-139FD75D855B_jpe-2516088.JPG




i can’t breathe. Stop it.

Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:31:56 PM EST
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If Trump was still President he would be sending way more than Biden is, he would be calling out the other NATO countries for not sending enough, and he would be working behind the scenes to depose Putin and replace him with someone more agreeable.

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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.


If Trump was still President he would be sending way more than Biden is, he would be calling out the other NATO countries for not sending enough, and he would be working behind the scenes to depose Putin and replace him with someone more agreeable.


I suspect so. I disagreed with a lot of stuff Trump did, especially in terms of gun rights, fiscal responsibility, and actually draining the swamp, but taking a hard line against Russia (despite what the Dems say) was definitely one good thing he did.
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Q Predicted that Trump would sell arms to Ukraine?
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I know your not normally this dumb.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:35:56 PM EST
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.

I really wish I knew how to word things as nicely as you do, because I agree with you.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/nhkbwyqpjto81_jpg-2516084.JPG

So I guess you guys weren't fans of Trump sending lethal aid to Ukraine?

Trump to seek $250M in new lethal aid to Ukraine - December 4, 2019


No, I think we should take care of our own. When you support people, countries, etc, they become dependent. That’s why you don’t feed wild animals.
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Lol, Soros was bragging about buying Ukrainian politicians back in 1995..he was buying up Moscow at the same time and fucked that up. He stated about his influence in Ukraine,  “If this isn’t meddling in the affairs of a foreign country, I don’t know what is”.  Brzezinski called Ukraine “A banana republic without the bananas”. The Ukrainian government has been under alternating foreign influence since it’s “independence” in ‘91. puppeted back and forth.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/01/23/the-world-according-to-soros

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So you are pro corruption when it benefits you. You do the payoffs for what ever you do but when you don't get a cut its bad.
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If Trump was still President he would be sending way more than Biden is, he would be calling out the other NATO countries for not sending enough, and he would be working behind the scenes to depose Putin and replace him with someone more agreeable.

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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.


If Trump was still President he would be sending way more than Biden is, he would be calling out the other NATO countries for not sending enough, and he would be working behind the scenes to depose Putin and replace him with someone more agreeable.



Yep, and I’d be against it. I’m against a lot of what Trump did. Trump was a huge net gain for our country though.
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Lol. He told Putin in person that “Moscow will burn” if they pushed Ukraine.  Biden just puckered.
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Lol, Soros was bragging about buying Ukrainian politicians back in 1995..he was buying up Moscow at the same time and fucked that up. He stated about his influence in Ukraine,  "If this isn't meddling in the affairs of a foreign country, I don't know what is".  Brzezinski called Ukraine "A banana republic eithout the bananas". The Ukrainian government has been under alternating foreign influence since it's "independence" in '91. puppeted back and forth.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/01/23/the-world-according-to-soros

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Okay and years later the country started throwing out as many corrupt guys as they could.
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If Trump was still President he would be sending way more than Biden is, he would be calling out the other NATO countries for not sending enough, and he would be working behind the scenes to depose Putin and replace him with someone more agreeable.

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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.


If Trump was still President he would be sending way more than Biden is, he would be calling out the other NATO countries for not sending enough, and he would be working behind the scenes to depose Putin and replace him with someone more agreeable.



Facts say nope. Plus you’re missing the biggest takeaway. Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump was POTUS.

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/money-to-ukraine
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So you are pro corruption when it benefits you. You do the payoffs for what ever you do but when you don't get a cut its bad.
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LOL.  Nothing I did benefitted me.  I saved a life.

And I'm not sure why I'm even responding to you. The Ukrainian gov is crap, worse than ours.  That's why the Biden family went there to help themselves.  They weren't trying to help anyone but to enrich themselves.
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Okay and years later the country started throwing out as many corrupt guys as they could.
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No, they just shuffled oligarchs from side to side.  Zelensky just had a fire sale of state assets to western billionaires right before the invasion. Sold off 500 state owned assets and now there’s talk of another sale coming.  You guys don’t really get how embedded corruption is there, do you?  I lived near an Eastern European enclave in NYC for years, the Ukrainian and Russian mobsters scared the fuck out of the Jamaicans, Italians and the Irish.  The worst part was the human trafficking.  The Ukes tried to get my boss, a metal fabricator, to build locking cages.

Our politicians are there because they want something out of it.

I feel worst about the average citizen of Ukraine that thought they were getting a negotiator that would end the war when they voted.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:48:44 PM EST
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LOL.  Nothing I did benefitted me.  I saved a life.
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LOL.  Nothing I did benefitted me.  I saved a life.


He probably thinks you snuck away briefly for a meeting with uncle pooty to collect your handsome reward.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:50:36 PM EST
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No, I think we should take care of our own. When you support people, countries, etc, they become dependent. That’s why you don’t feed wild animals.
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here’s my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn’t participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They’re telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don’t need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can’t help ya.

I really wish I knew how to word things as nicely as you do, because I agree with you.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/nhkbwyqpjto81_jpg-2516084.JPG

So I guess you guys weren't fans of Trump sending lethal aid to Ukraine?

Trump to seek $250M in new lethal aid to Ukraine - December 4, 2019


No, I think we should take care of our own. When you support people, countries, etc, they become dependent. That’s why you don’t feed wild animals.

So you do support my position of the wholesale elimination of Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid! Great!

That frees up a lot more money to kill Russians!

If you disagree with using out money to kill Russians, please explain how killing as many military aged males as possible from the country that has spent the last 100 years subverting the US and weaponizing the Democrat party without costing a drop of American blood isn't "taking care of our own". You're literally degrading/destroying the enemy that is literally the root cause of our internal rot without any risk to American lives.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:51:06 PM EST
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I'm sure you did
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:51:32 PM EST
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Twenty billion? I thought it was 19 billion. (Wink, wink, nudge, nudge)
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Well....18 billion. Ten percent is 2 billion.
*wink wink nudge nudge*
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:52:21 PM EST
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No, they just shuffled oligarchs from side to side.  Zelensky just had a fire sale of state assets to western billionaires right before the invasion. Sold off 500 state owned assets and now there’s talk of another sale coming.  You guys don’t really get how embedded corruption is there, do you?  I lived near an Eastern European enclave in NYC for years, the Ukrainian and Russian mobsters scared the fuck out of the Jamaicans, Italians and the Irish.  The worst part was the human trafficking.  The Ukes tried to get my boss, a metal fabricator, to build locking cages.
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Okay and years later the country started throwing out as many corrupt guys as they could.


No, they just shuffled oligarchs from side to side.  Zelensky just had a fire sale of state assets to western billionaires right before the invasion. Sold off 500 state owned assets and now there’s talk of another sale coming.  You guys don’t really get how embedded corruption is there, do you?  I lived near an Eastern European enclave in NYC for years, the Ukrainian and Russian mobsters scared the fuck out of the Jamaicans, Italians and the Irish.  The worst part was the human trafficking.  The Ukes tried to get my boss, a metal fabricator, to build locking cages.


Are there any good books that talk about how deep Ukrainian corruption goes? It’s fascinating and crazy at the same time. I bet you could write your own based on your experiences.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:52:35 PM EST
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I suppose there were no american dance halls or whatever with young people in the back in the 40s?  lol
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And confirmed
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Facts say nope. Plus you're missing the biggest takeaway. Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump was POTUS.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/379CAF13-8664-435E-A4AB-80553A52FFA5_jpe-2516095.JPG

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/money-to-ukraine
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No offense meant to anyone regarding my position on Ukraine.

Here's my position, I hope it makes sense.

The people that have ruined my country, and gone so far as to declare war on me. The people that threatened our livelihood if we didn't participate in their medical experiment. The people that are allowing a foreign country to invade. The people that killed Americans by making and releasing a bioweapon. The people that outlawed effective treatment for that bioweapon, and intentionally killed Americans with known dangerous treatments. The people that are sexualizing our children. The people promoting degeneracy over morals, and righteousness. The people that destroyed our booming economy.

They're telling me I should trust them on the Ukraine situation. I don't need data, citations, or sources.

Sorry, can't help ya.


If Trump was still President he would be sending way more than Biden is, he would be calling out the other NATO countries for not sending enough, and he would be working behind the scenes to depose Putin and replace him with someone more agreeable.



Facts say nope. Plus you're missing the biggest takeaway. Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump was POTUS.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/379CAF13-8664-435E-A4AB-80553A52FFA5_jpe-2516095.JPG

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/money-to-ukraine

"Well what I would do, we have tremendous military capability and what we can do without 44-year-old jets, what we can do is enormous, and we should be doing it and helping them to survive & they're doing an amazing job."

"Well, I think that drones are just as effective as anything nowadays. I mean, they make drones today, we make, we have drones that are just as effective as just about anything in the air, anything you can do in the air, and you can do drones, plus they give back tremendous amounts of information, and the information leads missiles right to whatever the hell target they are (inaudible), you'd have to shoot them from Ukraine so therefore you're being neutral."


Different, but not nothing.  Drones instead of HIMARS
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:54:20 PM EST
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Are you trolling so you can hit the report button?
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:55:43 PM EST
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I know your not normally this dumb.
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Q Predicted that Trump would sell arms to Ukraine?


I know your not normally this dumb.


If you look at the quote just above yours, you will see someone mention Trump selling arms to Ukraine- hence my response.

As for quoting Q - is that in jest? My sarcasm meter broken?
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:56:22 PM EST
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Are you trolling so you can hit the report button?
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Are you trolling so you can hit the report button?


Your accusing him of committing a, what, felony and you’re getting upset when called out about it?

Edit: I see now. You were saying you know he saved a life or something?
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 10:56:52 PM EST
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Yes, we did.  Lots of Americans have.  I don't brag about it but we know it.  I'm sorry now that I even mentioned it here.  It was just to illustrate how corrupt the Ukrainian government is.  I'm not saying the Russians are better.  I know Russians too and they're corrupt as well.  


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