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Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:42:25 PM EDT
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Oh it's 4 inches, alright...
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:42:38 PM EDT
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I must have missed it, why are they so caught up on if he had to clear a malfunction or not? I didn't see anything of the such in any of the videos I've seen.
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GG said he reracked the rifle to shoot him

KR said he did not

There is a kernel of intent for doing so

Establishes no unfired .223 at the scene so confirms KR testimony
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:42:49 PM EDT
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I can't believe someone said that in the lawtube chat... LOL!
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Priorities man, Priorities.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:42:54 PM EDT
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its not even guaranteed to would go click...
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:42:57 PM EDT
[#5]
not sure why she was used as a witness on clearing a malf
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:43:22 PM EDT
[#6]
All this talking about racks...
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:43:27 PM EDT
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Wait wait wait I wasn't done! Come back
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:43:33 PM EDT
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Monday Cop can see extraordinary detail in crappy drone video, with solid objects in the way.

But, in close up video of Kyle handling the firearm, nobody can point to video of him manipulating the charging handle in a manner that would clear a FTE?
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:43:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Female Officer looks tasty
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:43:38 PM EDT
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Grossarm claims Kyle cleared a malfunction in attempt to shoot him.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:43:44 PM EDT
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State did all that to save GG from a "lie".
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:43:58 PM EDT
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GG said he reracked the rifle to shoot him

KR said he did not

There is a kernel of intent for doing so

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Prosecutor is going for failure to eject and Kyle manual cycled the action to eject the case and load the next round
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:03 PM EDT
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Yeah that maroon with yellow and grey stripe is awful.

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We couldn't get the kid a better tie?
Yeah that maroon with yellow and grey stripe is awful.


I have a menswear store. If someone can make the connection, I’ll overnight enough ties  to get him through this trial.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:03 PM EDT
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It would go click, it wouldn't go bang - she says with a condescending face to LF. Nice
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:05 PM EDT
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Oh it's 4 inches, alright...
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Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:06 PM EDT
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it's becoming pretty apparent there was no malf.
looked like he turned the gun sideways and looked at it somewhere around getting kicked in the head
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:11 PM EDT
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Just acquit him now! Prosecutors are panicking and grasping at smoke! Acquit and move on to suing the motherfuck out of everyone against Kyle for hundreds of millions!
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:17 PM EDT
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Next witness commentator/reporter for Real America News
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:17 PM EDT
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not sure why she was used as a witness on clearing a malf
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They also used her because she collected a live .40 round from the Glock that wasn’t in the magazine
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:18 PM EDT
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GG said he reracked the rifle to shoot him

KR said he did not

There is a kernel of intent for doing so

Establishes no unfired .223 at the scene so confirms KR testimony
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I must have missed it, why are they so caught up on if he had to clear a malfunction or not? I didn't see anything of the such in any of the videos I've seen.


GG said he reracked the rifle to shoot him

KR said he did not

There is a kernel of intent for doing so

Establishes no unfired .223 at the scene so confirms KR testimony
To me, it bolsters the idea that GG is a fucking liar even further.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:39 PM EDT
[#21]
2020 riots!
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:39 PM EDT
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To tie to Grosstkruetz testimony claiming that kyle didn't accept his surrender, by cycling his rifle to make it ready to fire again.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:44 PM EDT
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FTR, Quarter second splits are very easy.
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Shot 1 to shot 2 - .263

Shot 2 to shot 3 - .247

Shot 3 to shot 4 - .229

Kyle's finger was warming up and getting faster as he went.

FTR, Quarter second splits are very easy.
Well sure...

But to be fair it was his first string of the night.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:50 PM EDT
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ANTIFA “journalist” on stand now or is he pro Kyle?
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:53 PM EDT
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Frank "Drew" Hernandez , commentator  ( very pro Kyle.)
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:44:55 PM EDT
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So this is the clarify whether KR has to "rerack" or not, for intent I suppose
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Prosecution is going to argue that KR tried to shoot GG, GG realized the misfire, and only then moved / resumed motion in a more threatening manner towards KR...
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:45:15 PM EDT
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Grosskreutz testified he saw Rittenhouse pull the charging handle and assumed that meant he'd tried to fire and got a click so Grosskreutz's "surrender" wasn't being accepted and he "had" to point his gun at Rittenhouse.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:45:51 PM EDT
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Common 'Tater Drew Hernandez is up.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:45:57 PM EDT
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ANTIFA "journalist" on stand now?
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Antifa?
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:46:02 PM EDT
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Not sure…he said rioters as opposed to protestors which might be a tell
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:46:03 PM EDT
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To tie to Grosstkruetz testimony claiming that kyle didn't accept his surrender, by cycling his rifle to make it ready to fire again.
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Yup.

And the video is pretty clear...as soon as Kyle turns his head, the dude moves in for the head shot. Kyle picks up on the movement and does work.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:46:20 PM EDT
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Defense has been outstanding.  Some of this stuff is very boring, but it must be put on the record.  Especially if they are going to push for a summary judgement.  Also, the closing argument is where this type of boring stuff can be summarized to make a point that may resonate with the Jury or even a single jurist.
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I fidget the actual percentage, but a huge percentage of jurors are decided after opening statements.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:46:31 PM EDT
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don't know who you are, but based on statistics alone, kind of doubt you'd be able to match his performance.
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Lol, he's a child that survived an incredibly dangerous situation due to excellent situational awareness and a lot of luck. Not taking anything away from him at all, but to present he's some master of firearms is laughable.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:46:52 PM EDT
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that part made sense.
i don't really care about her testimony on clearing a jam on an ar though other than it was kinda nice to have her on the stand a little longer
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:46:55 PM EDT
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Watch Live: WI v. Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Day 8 - On The Stand - James Armstrong - State Crime Lab
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:47:05 PM EDT
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ANTIFA "journalist" on stand now or is he pro Kyle?
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Drew Hernandez is very much not pro-Antifa.  He's pretty right-leaning, just go to his twitter to see.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:47:18 PM EDT
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He posted a very pro Kyle live stream last week that got "removed" on YouTube last week.
ETA: it was made private, probable because of his testimony.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:47:21 PM EDT
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No.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:47:29 PM EDT
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Antifa?
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My bad. Edited my post. Didn’t know if he was ANTIFA or pro Kyle
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:48:15 PM EDT
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Drew Hernandez is very much not pro-Antifa.  He's pretty right-leaning, just go to his twitter to see.
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Cool. Thanks for the clarification!
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:48:32 PM EDT
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Double tap

ETA: Oh yes, he is pro Kyle!
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:48:35 PM EDT
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They also used her because she collected a live .40 round from the Glock that wasn't in the magazine
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not sure why she was used as a witness on clearing a malf

They also used her because she collected a live .40 round from the Glock that wasn't in the magazine
State's witness Lackowksi had already testified that he cleared the glock, so not sure if that was all that relevant.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:48:46 PM EDT
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lol she was about to show him how
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That was painful watching him monkey it.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:48:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:48:52 PM EDT
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I think Prosecution (littlefinger) asserts he manually charged the AR after the first shot in the 2nd event. As in it was deliberate or something. I never got the point of that, why he thinks thats important..as if it would un-do the self defense argument or something. A gun cant be used for self defense if you know it had a jam and needs to be charged again, so even if KR did charge the AR whats the big deal?
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:48:59 PM EDT
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I must have missed it, why are they so caught up on if he had to clear a malfunction or not? I didn't see anything of the such in any of the videos I've seen.
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None of us have seen it in any of the video.  The prosecution doesn't allege it can be seen in a video, not even with iPhone superpinchzoom.  But GG claims this happened.  And this claim is kind of crucial to how GG made his second advance on KR.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:49:05 PM EDT
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ANITFA....

Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:49:29 PM EDT
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The defense it making very good points that the jury should know the overall timing of the events.

But, if the defense didn't pull an all nighter to modify their presentation to remove the text labels containing subjective observation ... that's poor form ... all of this could be for not.
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The prosecution showed numerous videos where prejudicial terms like "militia" were in the vids. The witness should be able to describe the points with reference to what is in the video to make it plain to the jury. This is just the DA generating confusion.
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:49:31 PM EDT
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I'm going with Kyle was focused on the pistol and that is why he shot GG in his arm. The AR went to where his eyes were pointed.
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Exactly
Link Posted: 11/11/2021 1:49:37 PM EDT
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Love that he's calling them out as ANTIFA and rioters.
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