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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:19:34 AM EST
[#1]
Did anyone see a lady with a sword by the lake?
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:23:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn’t bother me. Finding a way to fuck the system is 100% American. Indeed. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:54:49 AM EST
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:03:45 AM EST
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Corruption. Fake cops and a crooked police chief who wanted to hang out with the rich and famous. People who should know better even defended it. All fell apart after a couple negligent shootings by the fake cops. most of them didn’t even live in the state.
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Posted: 4/15/2022 11:47:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @kozaki 18Z5O is the MOS designator for a Special Forces Senior NCO in the paygrade of E8 (Master Sergeant or First Sergeant). Okay, thank-you. Seems like an odd and unrelated thing to insert into the middle of your post. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 12:06:56 PM EST
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Posted: 4/15/2022 12:09:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think calling them badge bunnies may not be correct. More likely they wanted the perceived ability to carry (almost) anywhere. If you were a surgeon practicing out of Henry Ford in Detroit, you'd probably want the ability to carry concealed in hospitals, which requires a badge. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 3:57:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Boone County, Indiana Sheriffs Department will hook you up. A guy in the training industry of M4C fame has one and openly told everybody he was "commissioned" during a class I attended. Gotta love it when a guy from Virginia has a fake badge in Indiana so he can carry and attend FLETC classes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hardly an uncommon practice IM me contact info for a, uh, friend?  Boone County, Indiana Sheriffs Department will hook you up. A guy in the training industry of M4C fame has one and openly told everybody he was "commissioned" during a class I attended. Gotta love it when a guy from Virginia has a fake badge in Indiana so he can carry and attend FLETC classes. My uh, friend, doesn't want to go to any LE classes, just quietly Constitutionally Carry about the country, which apparently requires a rented badge. 
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Posted: 4/15/2022 4:16:23 PM EST
[#9]
Ahh, the good ole Roland special
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Posted: 4/15/2022 4:19:21 PM EST
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NameState
1-David AdivNJ 2-Mario ArmijoCA 3-Andrew ArrabitoCA 4-James AssadCA 5-Louie III BanksNC 6-Dan BilzerianCA 7-Kevin Boland 8-David BolgianoDE 9-Nicolaas BoschKS 10-Oliver BrooksNM 11-Allan BrooksTX 12-Truman BrooksCT 13-Jonathan CanipeCO 14Bryan CarpenterMS 15Toshiro CarringtonCA 16Craig CastellanosCA 17Come ChantrelCA 18Adam ChavezNM 19Hunt CollinsCA 20Christopher ConnorsMD 21Brian CookCA 22Charles Cotey 23Akshara CritesNM 24Keith DarisCA 25Cameron DieterleVA 26Mark DietzNM 27Skip Drish 28Nicholas EsayianCA 29Warren EvertKS 30Art FabelaNM 31Jason Falla 32Ralph FisherMI 33Burns ForsytheNM 34Tej Gill 35Chris GivvinesMD 36Jose Gordon 37Jonathan GourleyCO 38Royler GracieCA 39Royce GracieCA 40Michael GreenVA 41Tyler Grey 42Chase HamiltonNM 43Andrew HaywoodUT 44Sean Hergerger 45Ronald HillFL 46Stephen HodnettTX 47Daniel HutsonNM 48AJ James 49Mark JohnsonAZ 50Jerod JohnsonAZ 51Charles KauffmanNM 52Kevin KentCA 53John KlierCA 54David Kuang 55Simon KubiakNM 56Charles LaffertyPA 57Raymond Jr. Lallo 58Mark LaRueTX 59Charles LaskyWI 60Charles III LawCA 61Duane LiptakTX 62Marcus Luttrell 63Brian Mackey 64Daniel McClelland 65Robert MercerNY 66Frank MetholaNM 67James Miller 68Dustin MohacsiCA 69Andrew Mullins 70Piya NavanugrahaCA 71Terry NelsonNM 72Jordan NighbertNM 73Donald OchoaCA 74Micah OlsenAZ 75Robert O’Neil 76James Patterson 77Danielle PinkstonCA 78Matthew PowellNM 79Kevin PowerNM 80Charles PressburgNC 81Peter Pukish 82Harrison RakesNM 83Timothy ReamsTX 84Evan ReesNM 85David Rhoden 86Glenn RiccioVA 87Freddie RichardCA 88Xavier RiesID 89William RiveraTX 90William RodriguezTX 91Thomas SamplesDE 92Damon Schaefer 93Matthew SchamrothNY 94Richard SchulzeFL 95Arthur SchulzeFL 96James SmithVA 97Tyrone SmithCA 98Timothy St HilaireTX 99Christopher StoehnerNM 100Michael SzotRI 101David Paul ThomasKS 102Lewis ThomasKS 103Alexander TraftonCA 104Christopher Wear 105George Wells 106Harlan Williamson 107Scott WolffNV 108Bryan YarbroCA 109Trent ZimmerLA (Table of Lake Arthur Reserve Police Officer Roster)  |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 4:20:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahh, the good ole Roland special What round for brother in law? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 4:45:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NameState 1-David AdivNJ 2-Mario ArmijoCA 3-Andrew ArrabitoCA 4-James AssadCA 5-Louie III BanksNC 6-Dan BilzerianCA 7-Kevin Boland 8-David BolgianoDE 9-Nicolaas BoschKS 10-Oliver BrooksNM 11-Allan BrooksTX 12-Truman BrooksCT 13-Jonathan CanipeCO 14Bryan CarpenterMS 15Toshiro CarringtonCA 16Craig CastellanosCA 17Come ChantrelCA 18Adam ChavezNM 19Hunt CollinsCA 20Christopher ConnorsMD 21Brian CookCA 22Charles Cotey 23Akshara CritesNM 24Keith DarisCA 25Cameron DieterleVA 26Mark DietzNM 27Skip Drish 28Nicholas EsayianCA 29Warren EvertKS 30Art FabelaNM 31Jason Falla 32Ralph FisherMI 33Burns ForsytheNM 34Tej Gill 35Chris GivvinesMD 36Jose Gordon 37Jonathan GourleyCO 38Royler GracieCA 39Royce GracieCA 40Michael GreenVA 41Tyler Grey 42Chase HamiltonNM 43Andrew HaywoodUT 44Sean Hergerger 45Ronald HillFL 46Stephen HodnettTX 47Daniel HutsonNM 48AJ James 49Mark JohnsonAZ 50Jerod JohnsonAZ 51Charles KauffmanNM 52Kevin KentCA 53John KlierCA 54David Kuang 55Simon KubiakNM 56Charles LaffertyPA 57Raymond Jr. Lallo 58Mark LaRueTX 59Charles LaskyWI 60Charles III LawCA 61Duane LiptakTX 62Marcus Luttrell 63Brian Mackey 64Daniel McClelland 65Robert MercerNY 66Frank MetholaNM 67James Miller 68Dustin MohacsiCA 69Andrew Mullins 70Piya NavanugrahaCA 71Terry NelsonNM 72Jordan NighbertNM 73Donald OchoaCA 74Micah OlsenAZ 75Robert O’Neil 76James Patterson 77Danielle PinkstonCA 78Matthew PowellNM 79Kevin PowerNM 80Charles PressburgNC 81Peter Pukish 82Harrison RakesNM 83Timothy ReamsTX 84Evan ReesNM 85David Rhoden 86Glenn RiccioVA 87Freddie RichardCA 88Xavier RiesID 89William RiveraTX 90William RodriguezTX 91Thomas SamplesDE 92Damon Schaefer 93Matthew SchamrothNY 94Richard SchulzeFL 95Arthur SchulzeFL 96James SmithVA 97Tyrone SmithCA 98Timothy St HilaireTX 99Christopher StoehnerNM 100Michael SzotRI 101David Paul ThomasKS 102Lewis ThomasKS 103Alexander TraftonCA 104Christopher Wear 105George Wells 106Harlan Williamson 107Scott WolffNV 108Bryan YarbroCA 109Trent ZimmerLA (Table of Lake Arthur Reserve Police Officer Roster) Why did you single out one ARFCOM member and not the other famous industry partner? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 4:53:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reserve Deputy program....I don't remember the details, the commissions were legit, however it stretched the ethical boundaries to the outer edges of what is permissible. 18Z50... Damn, I just looked up the membership roster...Lot's of SEALS and a few GB's that were secretly badge bunnies! Actually not so legit. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 4:56:20 PM EST
[#14]
The Larue haters came out in full force when this story broke
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Posted: 4/15/2022 4:59:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reserve Deputy program....I don't remember the details, the commissions were legit, however it stretched the ethical boundaries to the outer edges of what is permissible. 18Z50... Damn, I just looked up the membership roster...Lot's of SEALS and a few GB's that were secretly badge bunnies! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How? Reserve Deputy program....I don't remember the details, the commissions were legit, however it stretched the ethical boundaries to the outer edges of what is permissible. 18Z50... Damn, I just looked up the membership roster...Lot's of SEALS and a few GB's that were secretly badge bunnies! Badge bunnies, or just dudes who would be stupid to pass up an opportunity for LEOSA-enabled nationwide carry? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:00:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they have fake judges hear those fake speeding tickets described in the article posted near the top of the thread? Here's a goofball Louisiana Sheriff that figured he'd give creds to his family and he feels it's not unusual in his State to do so... and hell the only issue raised was the nepotism angle. Lots of States have pretty high POST requirements, others evidently not so much https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nola.com/article_8599b63c-c450-5b39-8c8d-7b3121c1c6bb.amp.html While I agree that the Louisiana Sheriff is a goofball, that is a completely different unethical issue. Is there another article you can post about a Police Department running a totally illegitimate program to buy police credentials? As the article at the top points out, the program was a complete sham. The participants had to be idiots if they truly thought they could pay a few hundred dollars to become a real police officer in some small New Mexico City. There was nothing suggesting or stating the program was simply honorary, fraternal, non sworn, etc. It was clearly pay a fee and become a cop with full powers. That is not common. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:13:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hardly an uncommon practice How common is it to have a ffull time chief and maybe a few full time officers, but have 70 or more "reserve" officers, mostly from out of state, paying a couple hundred bucks a year to be "reserves"? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:15:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The politically connected getting reserve creds is not a new practice. These guys werent connected so much as paying the reserve association to be on their rolls. Where did that money go? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:19:48 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they have fake judges hear those fake speeding tickets described in the article posted near the top of the thread? Here's a goofball Louisiana Sheriff that figured he'd give creds to his family and he feels it's not unusual in his State to do so... and hell the only issue raised was the nepotism angle. Lots of States have pretty high POST requirements, others evidently not so much https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nola.com/article_8599b63c-c450-5b39-8c8d-7b3121c1c6bb.amp.html One of the Lake Arthur guys was on a task force an involved in a fatal shooting. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:26:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's this? Tier 1 version of: Aloha, Mark. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:33:03 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where else is it happening? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hardly an uncommon practice Where else is it happening? Almost every county in Colorado has volunteer SO... Was a time in the early late 80's and early 90's when it was the literal ONLY way to be permitted. -edit- Also Wyoming IIRC both places require you to do patrol with serving full time deputies a certain number of hours each year. Also, you continually get called out for big events and sometimes funerals. If you don't show... *poof* you're out. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:33:23 PM EST
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Newport Beach millionaire Don Haidl testified Friday that badges were for sale under the administration of former Orange County Sheriff Michael S. Carona, and that the shields for volunteer reserves were purposely changed to look exactly like those carried by sworn deputies because “that’s what campaign contributors would like to have in their pocket.”
Haidl, who was appointed by Carona to be the assistant sheriff and put in charge of the reserve division, told jurors that the initial group of reserve officers they recruited shortly after Carona’s election were made up of 86 friends, relatives and business associates tied to the campaign. Haidl said he and the sheriff eventually created a special category of reserve officers and filled it with wealthy executives who were issued badges but not required to complete the hundreds of hours in training that reserves needed to meet state guidelines for volunteer peace officers. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:37:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Almost every county in Colorado has volunteer SO... Was a time in the early late 80's and early 90's when it was the literal ONLY way to be permitted. There are legitimate reserve and volunteer programs. They shouldn’t be confused with Lake Arthur’s sham. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:46:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I agree that the Louisiana Sheriff is a goofball, that is a completely different unethical issue. Is there another article you can post about a Police Department running a totally illegitimate program to buy police credentials? As the article at the top points out, the program was a complete sham. The participants had to be idiots if they truly thought they could pay a few hundred dollars to become a real police officer in some small New Mexico City. There was nothing suggesting or stating the program was simply honorary, fraternal, non sworn, etc. It was clearly pay a fee and become a cop with full powers. That is not common. Some here were apparently unaware that in more than one location in the country Sherrif Departments and Police departments in EVEN the tiniest incorporated areas have the ability to issue credentials as long as they're following whatever guidelines their State issue on the matter. Historically it is NOT uncommon for the politically connected to be issued some manner of credentials. You can pick nits all day about how that "connection" was met. Political contribution, direct, or otherwise. I'm not at all saying I agree with what they were doing but the pearl clutching is out of hand on the matter. Apparently the State of New Mexico has tightened up their "Reserve" requirements. https://www.nmlegis.gov/Sessions/21%20Regular/bills/house/HB0061.pdf I'm hoping the board doesn't find out that Sherrifs in many States have the power to deputize mere Citizens as he or she see fit. Ain't enough pearls in the ocean for that one. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:47:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Newport Beach millionaire Don Haidl testified Friday that badges were for sale under the administration of former Orange County Sheriff Michael S. Carona, and that the shields for volunteer reserves were purposely changed to look exactly like those carried by sworn deputies because “that’s what campaign contributors would like to have in their pocket.” Haidl, who was appointed by Carona to be the assistant sheriff and put in charge of the reserve division, told jurors that the initial group of reserve officers they recruited shortly after Carona’s election were made up of 86 friends, relatives and business associates tied to the campaign. Haidl said he and the sheriff eventually created a special category of reserve officers and filled it with wealthy executives who were issued badges but not required to complete the hundreds of hours in training that reserves needed to meet state guidelines for volunteer peace officers. Shamtastic...  
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:48:38 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Reserve Deputy program....I don't remember the details, the commissions were legit, however it stretched the ethical boundaries to the outer edges of what is permissible. 18Z50... Damn, I just looked up the membership roster...Lot's of SEALS and a few GB's that were secretly badge bunnies! I had a line on something like it but it all imploded, maybe because of the Lake Arthur stuff. Never heard anything else about it. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:50:56 PM EST
[#27]
 Attached FileQuoted: And a few GDers who are openly critical of LE ended up being on that list, too I missed this part. Someone want to PM me? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:53:54 PM EST
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LEE COUNTY, Fla. -- Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott is known for his aggressive crime fighting. But the sheriff is facing tough questions for passing out special deputy badges to celebrities and many of his wealthy friends -- badges that have the power to influence the outcome of a traffic stop.
The badges, ID's, and the cases are issued by Sheriff Scott. Fox 4 obtained mailer-handouts showing Sheriff Scott actually promised during an election campaign to end the special deputy program. Our investigation shows Sheriff Scott never made good on that promise. Using the Freedom of Information Act, Sheriff Scott's office provided Fox 4 with a list of 129 names of those in possession of special deputy badges. Some of the names may surprise you. Rocker and former lead singer of Bad Company Brian Howe, who lives in Fort Myers Beach. Rocker and four-time Grammy winner Pat Benatar and her rocker husband Neil Giraldo. And several Robertson's from TV’s Duck Dynasty. But there are also dozens of local lawyers, business owners, restaurant owners and a Fort Myers heir to the Oakley sunglasses fortune. The sheriff's department likened the special badges to ceremonial gestures, like getting the keys to the city. It’s a problem from coat to coast and most places in between. What’s funny is when the son of a sheriff gets in a wreck with a seized-forfeited vehicle, and it will come out he’s a credentialed deputy. It’s usually a surprise to the working men and women who never saw the guy working. If the local media is aggressive enough, and there’s a law available they may try to file a lawsuit and force the agency to release names of all those commissioned, and the first clue that this type of mopey is going on, is the sheriff or chief will resist disclosing names by saying a lot of these special commissions are working, you know deep undercover and it will jeopardize their safety |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:54:32 PM EST
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Quoted: What was the story here? How come so many people in the gun industry were involved? How many accounts you have here and how many of those are you using to respond to your own troll thread ? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 5:58:20 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn’t bother me. Finding a way to fuck the system is 100% American. Somebody gets it. Everyone else seems to love cacti for butt plugs. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 6:12:07 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Problematic indeed... They may say these confer no real power but you can bet yer ass they're not handed out just so they can be framed and hung on a wall... Even as the article states this is not at all uncommon for the politically connected. https://www.nola.com/news/article_4aea3cb5-9622-51cb-a71d-15417f8b13d0.html "Honorary" or "special" credentials will often not include the statement that a full time or fully credentialed officer (like a reserve in my state) carry indicating the bearer is authorized to carry a firearm and has the certified authorty to make arrests as outlined or defined in (insert state law defining what a sworn police officer is) . |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 6:32:15 PM EST
[#32]
As I recall, the complete list of “Reserve Officers” was never released by Lake Arthur. Just the list that’s posted in the thread.
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Posted: 4/15/2022 6:38:41 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some here were apparently unaware that in more than one location in the country Sherrif Departments and Police departments in EVEN the tiniest incorporated areas have the ability to issue credentials as long as they're following whatever guidelines their State issue on the matter. Historically it is NOT uncommon for the politically connected to be issued some manner of credentials. You can pick nits all day about how that "connection" was met. Political contribution, direct, or otherwise. I'm not at all saying I agree with what they were doing but the pearl clutching is out of hand on the matter. Apparently the State of New Mexico has tightened up their "Reserve" requirements. https://www.nmlegis.gov/Sessions/21%20Regular/bills/house/HB0061.pdf I'm hoping the board doesn't find out that Sherrifs in many States have the power to deputize mere Citizens as he or she see fit. Ain't enough pearls in the ocean for that one. Conflating the unethical practice of honorary badges with an entirely fake police department isn’t proving the latter is common. Again, not the point, but when it does happen there is almost exclusively the caveat that they are without police powers. The Lake Arthur sham was illegitimately issuing police authority, creating fake cops. The purpose wasn’t to flash a badge to avoid a speeding ticket or get a discount at Burger King. The participants were pretending to be real cops. A discussion about the differences between an elected sheriff, not sherrif, and a police chief have nothing to do with this. However, in any modern sheriff’s department the sheriff isn’t going to get away with appointing deputies without meeting the state criteria for too long. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:09:31 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Conflating the unethical practice of honorary badges with an entirely fake police department isn’t proving the latter is common. Again, not the point, but when it does happen there is almost exclusively the caveat that they are without police powers. The Lake Arthur sham was illegitimately issuing police authority, creating fake cops. The purpose wasn’t to flash a badge to avoid a speeding ticket or get a discount at Burger King. The participants were pretending to be real cops. A discussion about the differences between an elected sheriff, not sherrif, and a police chief have nothing to do with this. However, in any modern sheriff’s department the sheriff isn’t going to get away with appointing deputies without meeting the state criteria for too long. Is/was LA NM an incorporated town/village? Does/did NM law allow them to have a police force? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:11:42 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Newport Beach millionaire Don Haidl testified Friday that badges were for sale under the administration of former Orange County Sheriff Michael S. Carona, and that the shields for volunteer reserves were purposely changed to look exactly like those carried by sworn deputies because “that’s what campaign contributors would like to have in their pocket.” Haidl, who was appointed by Carona to be the assistant sheriff and put in charge of the reserve division, told jurors that the initial group of reserve officers they recruited shortly after Carona’s election were made up of 86 friends, relatives and business associates tied to the campaign. Haidl said he and the sheriff eventually created a special category of reserve officers and filled it with wealthy executives who were issued badges but not required to complete the hundreds of hours in training that reserves needed to meet state guidelines for volunteer peace officers. And that Sheriff rightfully went to prison |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:18:19 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tier 1 version of: Aloha, Mark. lol, I remember that well! |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:26:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LEE COUNTY, Fla. -- Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott is known for his aggressive crime fighting. But the sheriff is facing tough questions for passing out special deputy badges to celebrities and many of his wealthy friends -- badges that have the power to influence the outcome of a traffic stop. The badges, ID's, and the cases are issued by Sheriff Scott. Fox 4 obtained mailer-handouts showing Sheriff Scott actually promised during an election campaign to end the special deputy program. Our investigation shows Sheriff Scott never made good on that promise. Using the Freedom of Information Act, Sheriff Scott's office provided Fox 4 with a list of 129 names of those in possession of special deputy badges. Some of the names may surprise you. Rocker and former lead singer of Bad Company Brian Howe, who lives in Fort Myers Beach. Rocker and four-time Grammy winner Pat Benatar and her rocker husband Neil Giraldo. And several Robertson's from TV’s Duck Dynasty. But there are also dozens of local lawyers, business owners, restaurant owners and a Fort Myers heir to the Oakley sunglasses fortune. The sheriff's department likened the special badges to ceremonial gestures, like getting the keys to the city. It’s a problem from coat to coast and most places in between. What’s funny is when the son of a sheriff gets in a wreck with a seized-forfeited vehicle, and it will come out he’s a credentialed deputy. It’s usually a surprise to the working men and women who never saw the guy working. If the local media is aggressive enough, and there’s a law available they may try to file a lawsuit and force the agency to release names of all those commissioned, and the first clue that this type of mopey is going on, is the sheriff or chief will resist disclosing names by saying a lot of these special commissions are working, you know deep undercover and it will jeopardize their safety I believe all those were “‘Honorary” not special. Special would be like reserve or auxiliary police, where honorary is ceremonial. Sean Hannitys badge.  |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:31:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The politically connected getting reserve creds is not a new practice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Where else is it happening? The politically connected getting reserve creds is not a new practice. Massed Ayoowhoob???? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:37:13 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Larue haters came out in full force when this story broke But Magpul are Tier 1 mags! I've met at least one of the ARFCOMers on that list, and I've never met Mark LaRue. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:50:44 PM EST
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My town has a reserve officer program. I've contemplated doing it. The problem is the reserve academy is 8 months long (1 to 2 nights a week). I can't get off work consistently enough to complete it
The did have an srt team I qualify for. They are talking about bringing it back. If they do, I'd jump on it. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:51:24 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As I recall, the complete list of “Reserve Officers” was never released by Lake Arthur. Just the list that’s posted in the thread. Correct. Whatever anyone wants to say about the department, what anyone’s motivations were for joining, etc. — fine. Various opinions exist. But my observations were that everyone that did shifts at that department provided real service for the community when they were helping out in Lake Arthur. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 7:51:46 PM EST
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Lake Arthur, NM
I about freaked out, I grew up in Lake Arthur, LA lol. I was about to start making phone calls. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:06:28 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is/was LA NM an incorporated town/village? Does/did NM law allow them to have a police force? What does that have to do with anything? Are you going to argue that because they are a city somehow the sham reserve program was real? You claimed the Lake Arthur fake reserve program was common. I asked for an example and you just keep posting tangents about the corruption of honorary badges. You haven’t posted a similar situation yet. I’m sure if you search hard enough you will find one or two, a few, but hardly enough to make them a common practice in law enforcement. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:12:46 PM EST
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i dont travel so the leosa creds wouldnt be worth it to me but if the "dept" could buy NFA new machine guns and i could keep them at home it would be worth the price of admission.
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:16:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i dont travel so the leosa creds wouldnt be worth it to me but if the "dept" could buy NFA new machine guns and i could keep them at home it would be worth the price of admission. LEOSA is over rated with constitutional carry and non resident permits. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:34:46 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LEOSA is over rated with constitutional carry and non resident permits. California & NYC don't grant non-resident permits, nor Hawaii, nor Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands. The states that do have endless restrictions such as neighboring states only, or you have to sue them to get them to follow their own written laws. I'd like to get an Oregon permit & a permit good in Washington to visit my in-laws, but LEOSA would be the golden ticket. Hollowpoints in NJ, normal capacity mags everywhere. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:43:21 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: California & NYC don't grant non-resident permits, nor Hawaii, nor Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands. The states that do have endless restrictions such as neighboring states only, or you have to sue them to get them to follow their own written laws. I'd like to get an Oregon permit & a permit good in Washington to visit my in-laws, but LEOSA would be the golden ticket. Hollowpoints in NJ, normal capacity mags everywhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LEOSA is over rated with constitutional carry and non resident permits. California & NYC don't grant non-resident permits, nor Hawaii, nor Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands. The states that do have endless restrictions such as neighboring states only, or you have to sue them to get them to follow their own written laws. I'd like to get an Oregon permit & a permit good in Washington to visit my in-laws, but LEOSA would be the golden ticket. Hollowpoints in NJ, normal capacity mags everywhere. With my California, New Hampshire, Utah & Arizona permits, plus constitutional carry, there are very few places I cannot legally carry. LEOSA does not exempt you from California’s mag capacity restrictions BTW. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:44:44 PM EST
[#48]
Didn't anyone figure this was gonna implode?
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:55:37 PM EST
[#49]
I get constitutional carry in some states and all that but I'd guess that a dude in a situation or not, pulling out a LEO cred would get a teensy weesny different response than a Joe Bob carrying, you know wht I mean
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:58:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How common is it to have a ffull time chief and maybe a few full time officers, but have 70 or more "reserve" officers, mostly from out of state, paying a couple hundred bucks a year to be "reserves"? That is the thing that stands out to me. It works different in each state, but most STATES have a training requirement, ranging from "some, but not much" to, "All cops in this state are graduates of the full Police Academy." When we drill down to the local level, there are usually political people that limit/notice/pay attention to the number of reserves. Personal Tangent: I am a cop in Texas. In Texas, all cops must go through the same "Full" Police Academy. I was able to stop working in my mid 20's....and I did. Its a long story, but I decided that one of the things I wanted to do with a "free to do anything life" was to go through the full Police Academy and be a Reserve cop. I did that. I succeeded. And then it turned into a full time job, because I really loved it. After several years, it turned back into a reserve job. Then...after all that insanity and weirdness, I ended up an an actor in film and TV. with a few starring credits...and I moved away from where I reserved for a City. Now, I am interviewing with cities where I live. My cop resume is good. My life is insane. I am discovering some agencies are not interested because of my hollywood life. I respect them. Their admin are more concerned about the realities of their mission than what I could invite into their world. Some dont care. If i have the cop creds (I do) and can do the job (I can), they need me. Some are interested in me bringing "celeb" cred to their world. It is an interesting journey. Personally, I just want to keep doing cop stuff. But it is becoming harder and harder. Not often, but I do ger recognized, and the local press does like to write stories about the "cop that is an actor." I am not bitching, but it is an intersting process to navigate. It isnt the same, because he was many times the man I will ever be and many time the actor, but I wish I could talk with Jimmy Stewart and hear his wisdom right now. |
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