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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:31:51 PM EST
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There are people on here who think that is what cops should always do. I would have shot him after the first 5-10 seconds of non compliance.
Those cops were lucky as shit, and I can't really bash them, they didn't want to kill someone. Even after shots were fired they tried to tase him which is commendable, but fucking retarded. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:32:57 PM EST
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That's insane. Pretty clear the guy wanted to die.
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:33:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He only had a knife. Why didn't you shoot it out of his hands? Why didn't you shoot him in the leg? What about using a Taser? Why didn't they back up another 10.7 miles? Cops are trained to kill because they shoot center mass of available target. ............ as a taxpayer and citizen i want LEO's to not take unnecessary chances for themselves and the public. if people want to act like dangerous mental patients.. chlorox the gene pool with lead and copper. we have catered to an unstable population too long and their defenders have made society unsafe on many levels. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:34:20 PM EST
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If you just tried to use deadly force don't go back to using non lethal force. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:34:21 PM EST
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I fully expected him to get in their car and drive off
Or try to run them over |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:34:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He only had a knife. Why didn't you shoot it out of his hands? Why didn't you shoot him in the leg? What about using a Taser? Why didn't they back up another 10.7 miles? Cops are trained to kill because they shoot center mass of available target. ............ It's the mind that remains elusive. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:34:38 PM EST
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Dude was the fucking terminator. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:36:14 PM EST
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He only had a knife. Why didn't you shoot it out of his hands? Why didn't you shoot him in the leg? What about using a Taser? Why didn't they back up another 10.7 miles? Cops are trained to kill because they shoot center mass of available target. ............ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do not understand the total hesitation and assuming a reserved and subservient response to a person with a weapon by LEO's. it endangers the public and all emergency responders Why didn't you shoot it out of his hands? Why didn't you shoot him in the leg? What about using a Taser? Why didn't they back up another 10.7 miles? Cops are trained to kill because they shoot center mass of available target. ............ |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:37:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: certain socio-dynamics are gonna bitch and moan regardless. as a taxpayer and citizen i want LEO's to not take unnecessary chances for themselves and the public. if people want to act like dangerous mental patients.. chlorox the gene pool with lead and copper. we have catered to an unstable population too long and their defenders have made society unsafe on many levels. Mystery is will it stop in the middle or will it go full on TEOTWAWKI. My bet is TEOTWAWKI. I hope I'm wrong. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:38:34 PM EST
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9mm? |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:38:40 PM EST
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Retreating only reinforces dominance in the mind of the suspect.
Maintain a safe distance and give ultimatum. Comply or get shot. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:41:00 PM EST
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Retirement can’t come quick enough |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:41:15 PM EST
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Why did you handcuff him after your shot him? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do not understand the total hesitation and assuming a reserved and subservient response to a person with a weapon by LEO's. it endangers the public and all emergency responders Why didn't you shoot it out of his hands? Why didn't you shoot him in the leg? What about using a Taser? Why didn't they back up another 10.7 miles? Cops are trained to kill because they shoot center mass of available target. ............ Coward cops are afraid to go hands on All they had to do was stay away from him, but they just wanted a CONUS kill I would have executed a osoto-garae banzai and choked him out. That was a little guy, cops are chickenshits If your only tool is a hammer... |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:42:27 PM EST
[#14]
Stop, plant, Shoot
Getting close to highway you have to isolate and contain |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:42:55 PM EST
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I fully expected him to get in their car and drive off Or try to run them over a proven performer on a few occasions. you cannot however hang out a moving cruiser shooting a shotgun at a fleeing car anymore though. that was deemed unacceptable. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:43:31 PM EST
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fuck that. thats not what the taxpayers are paying for. if someone is acting lethally disturbed, we really don't want them in or out of society. now or later. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But, in the deescalation class I went to they showed us a video of like 18 cops that just kept backing up while some dude with a knife walked along the street. It was lauded a great example of patience and restraint because eventually the guy got talked out of his weapons and into handcuffs. I wonder if this officer had seen that video? |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:47:30 PM EST
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He only had a knife. Why didn't you shoot it out of his hands? Why didn't you shoot him in the leg? What about using a Taser? Why didn't they back up another 10.7 miles? Cops are trained to kill because they shoot center mass of available target. ............ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do not understand the total hesitation and assuming a reserved and subservient response to a person with a weapon by LEO's. it endangers the public and all emergency responders Why didn't you shoot it out of his hands? Why didn't you shoot him in the leg? What about using a Taser? Why didn't they back up another 10.7 miles? Cops are trained to kill because they shoot center mass of available target. ............ That whole situation gave me a MAJOR new found respect for law enforcement, and also has shown to me how REALLY stupid the public is with regard to lethal force. I've written off two family members because of stupid remarks like above. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:50:59 PM EST
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This, I've heard just about all that shit with regard to my self defense shooting, and I'm not a cop. That whole situation gave me a MAJOR new found respect for law enforcement, and also has shown to me how REALLY stupid the public is with regard to lethal force. I've written off two family members because of stupid remarks like above. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:54:07 PM EST
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Crazy.
Dude was clearly still a threat, why go less lethal after you put rounds in him? |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:54:57 PM EST
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In todays world, I could see why he may have. The suspect was shot multiple times, went to the ground and dropped the knife. He then gets back up and charges the officer without the knife. Can't say that the shooting of him at that point would have been ruled good in the court of law or much worse the court of public opinion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Welcome to the new breed of police officer. Technically proficient, but ill prepared to us those skills or too worried about the consequences if they do. I'd call it a good shot all day long but like you said today's world who knows. 
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:59:27 PM EST
[#21]
Too bad he can't get commission every time this is shown in an Officer Survival class.
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:01:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He only had a knife. Knives are sharp and they can kill. I've see what Chuckie did Why didn't you shoot it out of his hands? I tried but wound up hitting him center mass a few times Why didn't you shoot him in the leg? Same as above What about using a Taser? I don't have one Why didn't they back up another 10.7 miles? My cardio aint good enough for that distance Cops are trained to kill because they shoot center mass of available target. Well I tried the hands and legs and missed ............ IMO CIT is putting LE in a bad situation. Now that type of response is expected in every scenario and it's just not possible |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:09:16 PM EST
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Guess I would just have to see if those SPBA dues pay off. I'd call it a good shot all day long but like you said today's world who knows. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:10:34 PM EST
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He was lucky.
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:18:15 PM EST
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I wouldn't make it as a cop, I'd shot that fucker a long time ago. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I wouldn't make it as a cop, I'd shot that fucker a long time ago. Quoted:
Blood ran cold is right. Holy shit. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:26:44 PM EST
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they need bigger boolits....
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:26:45 PM EST
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During my 47.5 year career as a LEO, I came within ounces of trigger pull of killing someone twice. By the grace of God I did not have to shoot either time, but had the hammer back on my model 19 Smith in the midst of a double action pull one time when the kid (16 years old) threw down. The second time was a drunk we had a misdemeanor assault warrant on come out the door with a rifle in his hands. After an intense back and forth he finally lowered the rifle from port arms and laid it down on the trunk of a car. In todays anti-law enforcement climate, I do not tell anyone to seek a career in policing. It is too easy to get thrown under the bus even when a shooting is totally, legally justified. You can lose everything you own and have your life ruined defending yourself in court.
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:32:06 PM EST
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Some searching results in the county being described as a "Democratic stronghold" and Athens is described as being "dominated by a pervasive student culture". I get where your coming from Daps, but I'm glad I work in a very conservative area. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guess I would just have to see if those SPBA dues pay off. I'd call it a good shot all day long but like you said today's world who knows. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:38:30 PM EST
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WTF, why don't they just back up until they are in the next damn state.
You do all that you can to talk the guy down, after that is your life or his and they were way past that point. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:40:30 PM EST
[#30]
That would give you some serious pucker factor.
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:42:43 PM EST
[#31]
Fucking cocksucker.
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:45:35 PM EST
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ncZfgmOJFc
Look man, I know you don't want to shoot the dude.. I've been there, but at a certain point, you have to shoot. This one made my blood run cold, thank God his partner was a good shot. That was a cluster!! |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:47:06 PM EST
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Apparently one of the cops was in a shooting a few months ago. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:47:40 PM EST
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Should have shot him more once he got up, already showed intent and ability |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:48:38 PM EST
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If he had shot him again when he first got back up without the knife I guarantee there'd be a line of people here declaring it a bad shoot.
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:49:03 PM EST
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That was intense Did the officer get stabbed? |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:52:15 PM EST
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Only to get worse. A quick search for Athens Clarke County Police Department pay is 36k starting and topping out at 57k  It’s also in GA so 99% sure they don’t have a union.
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:58:00 PM EST
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Edgy but irrelevant. Wouldn’t matter if 9 or 40 or 45. Shot placement all day long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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9mm? |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:00:06 PM EST
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I'm surprised that it hasn't been mentioned yet, but what about the fact that they had a perp wandering around waving a knife that would not listen...?
Sure, cops need to defend themselves, but I would hope they'd also think about taking action to prevent others who might be around from harm. What if the perp grabbed a passerby? Shitty situation all 'round, but I agree with whoever suggested... three steps back... ultimatum... shoot if non compliant.... file report... go home. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:06:59 PM EST
[#40]
Glad I’m not a cop. He’d have been shot when he first started charging and shot some more when he rushed the 2nd time.
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:09:34 PM EST
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I wouldn't make it as a cop, I'd shot that fucker a long time ago. I blame the democrats on the left, and the anarchist/cop blockers on the right. Many of the latter are members here. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:12:49 PM EST
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If you just tried to use deadly force don't go back to using non lethal force. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:14:01 PM EST
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Their retreat, because that what it was, did nothing but embolden the perp. I used to tell my martial art students, kids, to back up three steps, thinking this was enough to show defense rather than offense and then defend themselves if the aggressor advanced on them. The LEOs here all failed the Teuller Drill. Who was the guy, in the late 60's, that warned about letting civilian groups set LE policy? ETA: Found it "More Deadly than War" by G. Edward Griffin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOa1foc5IXI |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:14:32 PM EST
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Their retreat, because that what it was, did nothing but embolden the perp. I used to tell my martial art students, kids, to back up three steps, thinking this was enough to show defense rather than offense and then defend themselves if the aggressor advanced on them. The LEOs here all failed the Teuller Drill. Who was the guy, in the late 60's, that warned about letting civilian groups set LE policy? https://media1.tenor.com/images/e6728cb2cb64dcc1d6e263ba34ef9b2b/tenor.gif?itemid=9283051 
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:18:26 PM EST
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They shot him and then decided to go less than lethal? Dumb |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:18:56 PM EST
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Tell us Paul Blart. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you just tried to use deadly force don't go back to using non lethal force. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:20:20 PM EST
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Welcome to the new breed of police officer. Technically proficient, but ill prepared to us those skills or too worried about the consequences if they do. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:21:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He only had a knife. Why didn't you shoot it out of his hands? Why didn't you shoot him in the leg? What about using a Taser? Why didn't they back up another 10.7 miles? Cops are trained to kill because they shoot center mass of available target. ............ |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:21:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now imagine its 3am and hes in your living room |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 7:24:25 PM EST
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Society has been shitting on cops for quite some time now. The younger cops are afraid to defend themselves. I blame the democrats on the left, and the anarchist/cop blockers on the right. Many of the latter are members here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wouldn't make it as a cop, I'd shot that fucker a long time ago. I blame the democrats on the left, and the anarchist/cop blockers on the right. Many of the latter are members here. |
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