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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:22:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So is Charles Darwin. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: God is an amazing dude! So is Charles Darwin. Nah, he's dead and his theories are out of date and mostly laughed at. God is alive. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:29:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently you’ve never met a scientist with an agenda. On the contrary, agendas are human nature. I'm well aware of the replication problem, the junk journal problem, and the perverse incentives that plague the scientific world as they do everything else. The right isn't at war against junk journals and perverse incentives, it's at war with the scientific method itself, and even the notion that reason is the arbiter of truth. The left has it's own issues with dogma too, doesn't change the reality that the right is dying of it. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:29:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unlike religion science seeks answers. It doesn't pretend to possess them. Scientists actually get excited when presented with new information. When that information doesn't fit the previous paradigm the paradigm shifts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Follow the Science!* *Except when it's obvious that the science doesn't have all the answers, and is populated with arrogant assholes that are willing to fake data for grant money or push an agenda. Luckily there are a few true geniuses that actually advance the field. Unlike religion science seeks answers. It doesn't pretend to possess them. Scientists actually get excited when presented with new information. When that information doesn't fit the previous paradigm the paradigm shifts. Lol. I wasn't commenting on the parallel religious theme running through this thread, although I think more than a few of the posters would take issue with you positing that religion doesn't seek answers. I was mocking the arrogance displayed in the title by claiming that "Life...shouldn't be there", which along with "The Science is Settled", pretty much shoots holes in your theory that science doesn't pretend to possess the answers. Science pretends it has the final answer all the time; fortunately, the entire field isn't corrupt and results and conclusions can still be questioned by peers in the field. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:32:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where in Genesis does it state "and on the nth day God created sponges and bizarre barnacle like creatures under the Antarctic ice"? Well, I'm poking fun at the science nuts in regards to the vaccines and the Chinese coof. But since you missed that point and asked another question; It's literally on the first page of The Word. In literally the first chapter. I know reading is hard, but don't be lazy. 20 And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds[g] fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.” 21 So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23 And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day. 24 And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds—livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:36:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. I wasn't commenting on the parallel religious theme running through this thread, although I think more than a few of the posters would take issue with you positing that religion doesn't seek answers. I was mocking the arrogance displayed in the title by claiming that "Life...shouldn't be there", which along with "The Science is Settled", pretty much shoots holes in your theory that science doesn't pretend to possess the answers. Science pretends it has the final answer all the time; fortunately, the entire field isn't corrupt and results and conclusions can still be questioned by peers in the field. People say that life shouldn't be there and that the science is settled. Science does not. Science is a process for pursuing information and answers. People are flawed. Fortunately science checks those flaws by having other people verify. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:37:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, I'm poking fun at the science nuts in regards to the vaccines and the Chinese coof. But since you missed that point and asked another question; It's literally on the first page of The Word. In literally the first chapter. I know reading is hard, but don't be lazy. 20 And God said, “Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds[g] fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens.” 21 So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23 And there was evening and there was morning, the fifth day. 24 And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds—livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. "Living creatures", lol, does that cover dinosaurs too? |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:40:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Charles Darwin left this world not accepting Christ, then he is in unimaginable torment this very instant. Not my rules, I wish Hell didn't exist but it does. You'd be wise not to follow him there. Please. You either chose those beliefs or you never seriously questioned the first ideas you were presented with. Either way have the balls to own them or the wit not to make threats in the Almighty's name. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:41:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's with all the nutty religious people popping up lately? Consider reading Karl Popper's Conjectures and Refutations. He posits that the key demarcation between science and nonscience is the ability to predict. He used three examples: Freudianism, Marxism and relativity. In condensed form: Freudianism and Marxism rarely if ever made exact predictions--certainly never on the level of refutability. I.e.: Marxism never said, 'If a certain type of revolution doesn't start in x-country in x-time frame, Marxism is false.' Freudianism and Marxism 'explained,' everything after the fact. Everything that happened was presented as 'proof,' after it had been 'explained,' (as exactly what would happen if Marxism or Freudianism were true). Relativity was different. It made predictions. For example, relativity states that under certain circumstances, light bends. This was testable. Scientists traveled to Africa to the spot where a total eclipse would occur with cameras and test/measurement equipment. They were prepared to confirm or refute Relativity. Light bent. In at least a limited context, Relativity stood the test. Pseudoscience, otoh, is constantly 'explaining' after the fact. 'We didn't expect to find life but having found it, we discovered that it confirms our 'scientific,' theories.' 'We didn't come remotely close to predicting that intact red blood cells and soft tissue would be found in a T-rex leg bone, but having found those things we affirm that they fit the 'scientific,' theory perfectly.' |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:43:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Living creatures", lol, does that cover dinosaurs too? Ah yes, moving the goal posts. I remember my first internet arguement. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:44:00 PM EST
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Andddd, this thread has spun out of control. Not surprised. What if God was one of us? Just a slob like one of us. Just a stranger on the bus. Tryin' to make his way home?
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:45:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The religious fanaticism here is pretty fucking gross  |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:48:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Consider reading Karl Popper's Conjectures and Refutations. He posits that the key demarcation between science and nonscience is the ability to predict. He used three examples: Freudianism, Marxism and relativity. In condensed form: Freudianism and Marxism rarely if ever made exact predictions--certainly never on the level of refutability. I.e.: Marxism never said, 'If a certain type of revolution doesn't start in x-country in x-time frame, Marxism is false.' Freudianism and Marxism 'explained,' everything after the fact. Everything that happened was presented as 'proof,' after it had been 'explained,' (as exactly what would happen if Marxism or Freudianism were true). Relativity was different. It made predictions. For example, relativity states that under certain circumstances, light bends. This was testable. Scientists traveled to Africa to the spot where a total eclipse would occur with cameras and test/measurement equipment. They were prepared to confirm or refute Relativity. Light bent. In at least a limited context, Relativity stood the test. Pseudoscience, otoh, is constantly 'explaining' after the fact. 'We didn't expect to find life but having found it, we discovered that it confirms our 'scientific,' theories.' 'We didn't come remotely close to predicting that intact red blood cells and soft tissue would be found in a T-rex leg bone, but having found those things we affirm that they fit the 'scientific,' theory perfectly.' Or.... and folllow me here, people could get a topic on fucking topic and just discuss the subject at hand. Babbling on about marxism or relgious stories of noah are both completely irrelevant and ruin any conversation around the topic from the OP. Your post has as much to do with my statement as bible verses do with crystaline sea sponges under the arctic. This forum has turned into places where people just bring the worst behaviors from all across the internet together and kill any regular conversation that may happen. Making the forum less inviting to new users and further dividing it up. Why not discuss other things found under the arctic ice? Why not discuss other extremophile life around underwater vents, why not discuss mutations and adaptations and learn a little from each other? Oh, because we can't because this forum is filled with cunts just babbling on and refusing to just step out of a conversation if they have nothing useful to add. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:48:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’ve found caves at the highest peaks with graveyards full of dinosaur bones as if they were trying to escape being slaughtered en masse. @Bale2011 - got a source? That would be interesting to read about. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:49:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL so Christians have killed more people than: Hitler, Moa, Stalin, Pol Pot, Ho Ho Ho Chiemen? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: the only thing thats caused more people to die than socialists is religious justifications. seems reasonable, pretty much every time we make a statement of "life can't just survive in ABC" we get proven wrong at some point. LOL so Christians have killed more people than: Hitler, Moa, Stalin, Pol Pot, Ho Ho Ho Chiemen? Is the definition of religion confusing to you? to directly answer your question, yes. you know pretty much every one of hilters SS officers was a good god fearing christian when they killed all those people right? Russian orthodox ring a bell? How about Roman catholic? Heard of Islam? Or the holy wars? maos a more interesting example, while he discouraged religious beliefs all those people carrying out their orders still widely identified as religious. at least in that case the atrocities were not committed directly because of religious justification. I could go on but the fact that you think everyone you listed is a socialist is pretty telling. yelling trump is literally hitler doesn't make it so. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:51:02 PM EST
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Are they sure the organisms weren't already on the drill?
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:51:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the only thing thats caused more people to die than socialist is religious justifications. . Not close to true. A historical analysis of all recorded wars was done a few years back that laid that pop culture assumption solidly to rest. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:52:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's with all the nutty religious people popping up lately? Ya this is just getting weird. And they're in GD at that 
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:54:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or.... and folllow me here, people could get a topic on fucking topic and just discuss the subject at hand. Babbling on about marxism or relgious stories of noah are both completely irrelevant and ruin any conversation around the topic from the OP. Your post has as much to do with my statement as bible verses do with crystaline sea sponges under the arctic. This forum has turned into places where people just bring the worst behaviors from all across the internet together and kill any regular conversation that may happen. Making the forum less inviting to new users and further dividing it up. Why not discuss other things found under the arctic ice? Why not discuss other extremophile life around underwater vents, why not discuss mutations and adaptations and learn a little from each other? Oh, because we can't because this forum is filled with cunts just babbling on and refusing to just step out of a conversation if they have nothing useful to add. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Consider reading Karl Popper's Conjectures and Refutations. He posits that the key demarcation between science and nonscience is the ability to predict. He used three examples: Freudianism, Marxism and relativity. In condensed form: Freudianism and Marxism rarely if ever made exact predictions--certainly never on the level of refutability. I.e.: Marxism never said, 'If a certain type of revolution doesn't start in x-country in x-time frame, Marxism is false.' Freudianism and Marxism 'explained,' everything after the fact. Everything that happened was presented as 'proof,' after it had been 'explained,' (as exactly what would happen if Marxism or Freudianism were true). Relativity was different. It made predictions. For example, relativity states that under certain circumstances, light bends. This was testable. Scientists traveled to Africa to the spot where a total eclipse would occur with cameras and test/measurement equipment. They were prepared to confirm or refute Relativity. Light bent. In at least a limited context, Relativity stood the test. Pseudoscience, otoh, is constantly 'explaining' after the fact. 'We didn't expect to find life but having found it, we discovered that it confirms our 'scientific,' theories.' 'We didn't come remotely close to predicting that intact red blood cells and soft tissue would be found in a T-rex leg bone, but having found those things we affirm that they fit the 'scientific,' theory perfectly.' Or.... and folllow me here, people could get a topic on fucking topic and just discuss the subject at hand. Babbling on about marxism or relgious stories of noah are both completely irrelevant and ruin any conversation around the topic from the OP. Your post has as much to do with my statement as bible verses do with crystaline sea sponges under the arctic. This forum has turned into places where people just bring the worst behaviors from all across the internet together and kill any regular conversation that may happen. Making the forum less inviting to new users and further dividing it up. Why not discuss other things found under the arctic ice? Why not discuss other extremophile life around underwater vents, why not discuss mutations and adaptations and learn a little from each other? Oh, because we can't because this forum is filled with cunts just babbling on and refusing to just step out of a conversation if they have nothing useful to add. I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:55:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or.... and folllow me here, people could get a topic on fucking topic and just discuss the subject at hand. Babbling on about marxism or relgious stories of noah are both completely irrelevant and ruin any conversation around the topic from the OP. Your post has as much to do with my statement as bible verses do with crystaline sea sponges under the arctic. This forum has turned into places where people just bring the worst behaviors from all across the internet together and kill any regular conversation that may happen. Making the forum less inviting to new users and further dividing it up. Why not discuss other things found under the arctic ice? Why not discuss other extremophile life around underwater vents, why not discuss mutations and adaptations and learn a little from each other? Oh, because we can't because this forum is filled with cunts just babbling on and refusing to just step out of a conversation if they have nothing useful to add. Disagree. When a particular brand of'science,' predicts nothing but 'explains,' everything, it is useful to point out that it's pseudoscience at best. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:55:29 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our Creator is awesome, His creation is mind boggling. Yeah, sure do love that childhood cancer he created. I’m sure he did it to teach us a lesson. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:56:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Consider reading Karl Popper's Conjectures and Refutations. He posits that the key demarcation between science and nonscience is the ability to predict. He used three examples: Freudianism, Marxism and relativity. In condensed form: Freudianism and Marxism rarely if ever made exact predictions--certainly never on the level of refutability. I.e.: Marxism never said, 'If a certain type of revolution doesn't start in x-country in x-time frame, Marxism is false.' Freudianism and Marxism 'explained,' everything after the fact. Everything that happened was presented as 'proof,' after it had been 'explained,' (as exactly what would happen if Marxism or Freudianism were true). Relativity was different. It made predictions. For example, relativity states that under certain circumstances, light bends. This was testable. Scientists traveled to Africa to the spot where a total eclipse would occur with cameras and test/measurement equipment. They were prepared to confirm or refute Relativity. Light bent. In at least a limited context, Relativity stood the test. Pseudoscience, otoh, is constantly 'explaining' after the fact. 'We didn't expect to find life but having found it, we discovered that it confirms our 'scientific,' theories.' 'We didn't come remotely close to predicting that intact red blood cells and soft tissue would be found in a T-rex leg bone, but having found those things we affirm that they fit the 'scientific,' theory perfectly.' Or.... and folllow me here, people could get a topic on fucking topic and just discuss the subject at hand. Babbling on about marxism or relgious stories of noah are both completely irrelevant and ruin any conversation around the topic from the OP. Your post has as much to do with my statement as bible verses do with crystaline sea sponges under the arctic. This forum has turned into places where people just bring the worst behaviors from all across the internet together and kill any regular conversation that may happen. Making the forum less inviting to new users and further dividing it up. Why not discuss other things found under the arctic ice? Why not discuss other extremophile life around underwater vents, why not discuss mutations and adaptations and learn a little from each other? Oh, because we can't because this forum is filled with cunts just babbling on and refusing to just step out of a conversation if they have nothing useful to add. I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:58:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the definition of religion confusing to you? to directly answer your question, yes. you know pretty much every one of hilters SS officers was a good god fearing christian when they killed all those people right? Neither you nor the Nazis get to define who is a 'good...Christian.' You cannot break every command of Jesus and be a Christian. That's like saying you can eat veal three times a day and be a vegan. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:59:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All of your join dates did not disappoint. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's with all the nutty religious people popping up lately? The religious fanaticism here is pretty fucking gross https://i.imgur.com/1I6bsUi.gif All of your join dates did not disappoint. Unlike sky fairies.... |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:59:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As ice sheets collapse in a warming world, species such as those found on the boulder may prove to be unable to respond to rapid changes. Really?  Not a timely quote for sure... |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:00:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our Creator is awesome, His creation is mind boggling. Amen! |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:00:26 PM EST
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We should just make a sub-forum for people who interject religion into every conversation they have, that gets copies of every thread posted to it but doesn't post to the OP, so they can riff off on all the religious stuff they want without completely derailing threads.
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:00:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Consider reading Karl Popper's Conjectures and Refutations. He posits that the key demarcation between science and nonscience is the ability to predict. He used three examples: Freudianism, Marxism and relativity. In condensed form: Freudianism and Marxism rarely if ever made exact predictions--certainly never on the level of refutability. I.e.: Marxism never said, 'If a certain type of revolution doesn't start in x-country in x-time frame, Marxism is false.' Freudianism and Marxism 'explained,' everything after the fact. Everything that happened was presented as 'proof,' after it had been 'explained,' (as exactly what would happen if Marxism or Freudianism were true). Relativity was different. It made predictions. For example, relativity states that under certain circumstances, light bends. This was testable. Scientists traveled to Africa to the spot where a total eclipse would occur with cameras and test/measurement equipment. They were prepared to confirm or refute Relativity. Light bent. In at least a limited context, Relativity stood the test. Pseudoscience, otoh, is constantly 'explaining' after the fact. 'We didn't expect to find life but having found it, we discovered that it confirms our 'scientific,' theories.' 'We didn't come remotely close to predicting that intact red blood cells and soft tissue would be found in a T-rex leg bone, but having found those things we affirm that they fit the 'scientific,' theory perfectly.' Or.... and folllow me here, people could get a topic on fucking topic and just discuss the subject at hand. Babbling on about marxism or relgious stories of noah are both completely irrelevant and ruin any conversation around the topic from the OP. Your post has as much to do with my statement as bible verses do with crystaline sea sponges under the arctic. This forum has turned into places where people just bring the worst behaviors from all across the internet together and kill any regular conversation that may happen. Making the forum less inviting to new users and further dividing it up. Why not discuss other things found under the arctic ice? Why not discuss other extremophile life around underwater vents, why not discuss mutations and adaptations and learn a little from each other? Oh, because we can't because this forum is filled with cunts just babbling on and refusing to just step out of a conversation if they have nothing useful to add. I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/90FD735D-DCD9-450D-BC35-2F77ABD1935A_jpe-1826683.JPG Obviously. My point being is that GD is notorious for disregarding the topic at hand. There's almost no point to having thread topics anymore. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:01:28 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine what we might find under Ganymede and Callisto. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:02:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Life, it uh, finds a way. 
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:04:54 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please. You either chose those beliefs or you never seriously questioned the first ideas you were presented with. Either way have the balls to own them or the wit not to make threats in the Almighty's name. Take it up with Jesus, He's the one that warned us and said, "Do not go there"! He used strong language about hell because it is real and unspeakably horrible. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:05:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest. GD may be dysfunctional but reddit is just pure unadulterated trash. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:07:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Life, it uh, finds a way. Edit: Fuck I’m too slow to find these threads today. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:10:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As ice sheets collapse in a warming world, species such as those found on the boulder may prove to be unable to respond to rapid changes. Really? 900+ meter ice sheets don't go away rapidly lol |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:10:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GD may be dysfunctional but reddit is just pure unadulterated trash. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest. GD may be dysfunctional but reddit is just pure unadulterated trash. For very niche topics, absolutely not. Reddit is vastly easier to crowdsource and "opinion-mine", if you need legit answers to specific questions. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:10:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/6578B03F-C6AB-44D2-9829-8851B7318BE5-478.gif Edit: Fuck I’m too slow to find these threads today. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Life, it uh, finds a way. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/6578B03F-C6AB-44D2-9829-8851B7318BE5-478.gif Edit: Fuck I’m too slow to find these threads today. Twas a noble effort good sir. Now say 87 hail Brownells and thou shalt be forgiven. 
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:11:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not close to true. A historical analysis of all recorded wars was done a few years back that laid that pop culture assumption solidly to rest. It depends on how you look at it. The bottom line is totalitarianism is bad. Industrialized warfare came about after the enlightenment, so we didn't have a lot of theocracies left when the population started to really climb and we got really efficient at reducing it. Still, when the Catholics were killing stray cats thought to be plague demon familiars half of Europe died. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:11:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Disagree. When a particular brand of'science,' predicts nothing but 'explains,' everything, it is useful to point out that it's pseudoscience at best. Except it is still completely irrelevant to this discussion and proves my point. The article in the op is an editorialized piece grabbing quotes from the scientist who were peforming a study. It clearly says the group was there to study the mud at the seafloor (could be for a million different reasons) and that the find was inadvertant. It is just a quick blurb about something seen during a different test. They don't assert that they were there to disprove life there, or if they were there doing an unrelated study on heavy metals in ancient water sources. Instead you are assuming and lumping in claims of unrelated qualms based on your beliefs, putting you in the same category as the people posting the religious comments. Vast amounts of scientific discovery throughout history has been little more than simple observation or pure acccident. So your entire rant is just meant to try and show some level of intellectual purism that you think is relevant that just isn't. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:12:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This makes no sense. They say they "shouldn't be there", yet science has known for quite some time about a variety of life forms that are born, live and die in darkness thousands of feet below the surface of the ocean. There are even terrestrial animals that live in caves underground their entire lives without ever seeing the sun. So it shouldn't be surprising they found some critters under an ice sheet that get by without sunlight Sensationalistic article written as a tabloid article to generate clicks. If real science thought there was no way in hell life was going to be there, they wouldn't have spent the money and time looking for it. The article's perspective was "life should can only be found in urban areas voting for democrats." Just kidding, but it's not too far off from that. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:13:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the definition of religion confusing to you? to directly answer your question, yes. you know pretty much every one of hilters SS officers was a good god fearing christian when they killed all those people right? Russian orthodox ring a bell? How about Roman catholic? Heard of Islam? Or the holy wars? maos a more interesting example, while he discouraged religious beliefs all those people carrying out their orders still widely identified as religious. at least in that case the atrocities were not committed directly because of religious justification. I could go on but the fact that you think everyone you listed is a socialist is pretty telling. yelling trump is literally hitler doesn't make it so. Permit me to fix your ignorance, for it is gross. The Nazi party, and especially the SS, was built around a belief in paganism. Hitler in his famous Munich rally speech (the one at night with all the torches often used in documentaries) openly urged Germans to "cast off their facade of Christianity" and thence return to their pagan roots. They created their own fake Aryan history and pseudo-religion. In over 5 millennia of wars, 7% of them were religious in nature. Take out Islam, which teaches conversion by war, and the number falls to 3%. You can go to the primary sources and read for yourself, or you can use this condensed explanation, but your ignorance is that of pop culture, there are no facts to support it. https://www.str.org/w/debunking-the-religious-wars-myth |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:13:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For very trash topics, absolutely not. Reddit is vastly easier to crowdsource trash and "trash-mine", if you need legit trash to specific trash. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest. GD may be dysfunctional but reddit is just pure unadulterated trash. For very trash topics, absolutely not. Reddit is vastly easier to crowdsource trash and "trash-mine", if you need legit trash to specific trash. Totally agree |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:15:58 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unlike religion science seeks answers. It doesn't pretend to possess them. Scientists actually get excited when presented with new information. When that information doesn't fit the previous paradigm the paradigm shifts. That's true, even if they have to discount things that they argued as fact for decades. They can change their arguments 180 degrees, and not understand why people don't blindly follow what they call facts *today*. Scientists sometimes sound like John Kerry/I was right before I was wrong. Things presented as "facts" should often be stated as *our best guess*. It's the same with Fauci regarding masks; he's taken both sides of the issue, yet people are still chastised for not believing his latest comments. His first comments were either wrong, or flat out lies to elicit a desired effect, yet his science is not to be questioned. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fauci-outdated-video-masks/fact-checkoutdated-video-of-fauci-saying-theres-no-reason-to-be-walking-around-with-a-mask-idUSKBN26T2TR |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:17:53 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Totally agree Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest. GD may be dysfunctional but reddit is just pure unadulterated trash. For very trash topics, absolutely not. Reddit is vastly easier to crowdsource trash and "trash-mine", if you need legit trash to specific trash. Totally agree The fact that you spend more time editing a quote in an effort to shitpost for unknown reasons makes my point for me. GD sucks for legit discussions. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:18:30 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, no shit, seems you can't have a single thread anymore regarding any type of scientific discovery without them popping in and polluting it from the get go. I'm agnostic, but so the fuck what? If delicate sensibilities can't handle differing opinions, then perhaps you'd be more comfortable in a site run by Bill Nye the "Science" Guy? |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:18:56 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Except it is still completely irrelevant to this discussion and proves my point. The article in the op is an editorialized piece grabbing quotes from the scientist who were peforming a study. It clearly says the group was there to study the mud at the seafloor (could be for a million different reasons) and that the find was inadvertant. It is just a quick blurb about something seen during a different test. They don't assert that they were there to disprove life there, or if they were there doing an unrelated study on heavy metals in ancient water sources. Instead you are assuming and lumping in claims of unrelated qualms based on your beliefs, putting you in the same category as the people posting the religious comments. Vast amounts of scientific discovery throughout history has been little more than simple observation or pure acccident. So your entire rant is just meant to try and show some level of intellectual purism that you think is relevant that just isn't. Or you could say, 'science,' failed to predict the life that was discovered. Or barring that, you could link me to a scientist/scientists who went on record saying if they went down to study this mud, they would find life. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:19:25 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh no. Someone quoted a bible verse. I’m triggered. Exactly. Snowflakes everywhere. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:19:55 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact that you spend more time editing a quote in an effort to shitpost for unknown reasons makes my point for me. GD sucks for legit discussions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest. GD may be dysfunctional but reddit is just pure unadulterated trash. For very trash topics, absolutely not. Reddit is vastly easier to crowdsource trash and "trash-mine", if you need legit trash to specific trash. Totally agree The fact that you spend more time editing a quote in an effort to shitpost for unknown reasons makes my point for me. GD sucks for legit discussions. It's not a shitpost if reddit sucks, which it does. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:21:10 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Or you could say, 'science,' failed to predict the life that was discovered. Or barring that, you could link me to a scientist/scientists who went on record saying if they went down to study this mud, they would find life. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Why won't you just discuss the subject? Why act like such a tool? They weren't there to study life. Just a fun find. Hey, neat article about an unexpected find. COOOOOOOL. Users like you are what have absolutely ruined this place. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:22:08 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess some people grow weary of it. It's the same as if your kid came home from school and said their math teacher taught the class that 2+2= ketchup. Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire History is rife with catastrophic examples. Atrocities have been committed in the name of "science" as well... and it's happening right now in this world. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:22:09 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not a shitpost if reddit sucks, which it does. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I stick with reddit for technical discussions. There's no topic out there that GD won't turn into a zomg teh commies/athiests/christians/rinos/blahblahblah shitfest. GD may be dysfunctional but reddit is just pure unadulterated trash. For very trash topics, absolutely not. Reddit is vastly easier to crowdsource trash and "trash-mine", if you need legit trash to specific trash. Totally agree The fact that you spend more time editing a quote in an effort to shitpost for unknown reasons makes my point for me. GD sucks for legit discussions. It's not a shitpost if reddit sucks, which it does. Okay dude. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:25:02 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Unlike religion science seeks answers. It doesn't pretend to possess them. Scientists actually get excited when presented with new information. When that information doesn't fit the previous paradigm the paradigm shifts. So you never read Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. Scientists react in predictable ways when confronted by anomalies; in fact, they react like religionists whose faith has been threatened. |
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