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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:22:15 PM EST
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Why did we get the m4 after the m16? US Rifle Caliber 5.56mm M16 US Carbine Caliber 5.56mm M4 Nomenclature in type series. The carbine and rifle are different types and thus have different sequences to follow based on predicate models. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:22:17 PM EST
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. Hey mister, do you work for NBC news???? 
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:22:30 PM EST
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You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Yeah, that's because the bullet tumbles in the air which not only gives it more "knock down" power, it also causes more wounding too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Yeah, that's because the bullet tumbles in the air which not only gives it more "knock down" power, it also causes more wounding too. The slower the twist rate the more lethal , that's why liberals had the barrel twist changed from 1/14 to 1/12 to now 1/7 . More tumbling the more wounding damage . |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:23:28 PM EST
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? M3 carbine The M3 carbine was an M2 equipped with infrared night sighting equipment. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:23:42 PM EST
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. Glad I didn't tl:dr, and instead took a minute to read that. I needed the rofl. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:23:56 PM EST
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. 
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:27:19 PM EST
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M1A1 Gunners Quadrant
M16A2 40mm links M9 50 cal Links The military likes to make things confusing. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:28:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You missed one point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Yeah, that's because the bullet tumbles in the air which not only gives it more "knock down" power, it also causes more wounding too. True. But the real lethality is that it follows bone. You get hit in the chest but the round come out of your foot. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:51:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: M1 garand rifle M1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? M5 survival rifle by Armalite in .22 Hornet |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:52:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle M24 rifle anyone want to add? Also M21 sniper rifle (modified M14) |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:55:28 PM EST
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M2 carbine, look it up. 
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So M2 rifle to M13 rifle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:57:32 PM EST
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You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Close. It stands for "Abrasion Resistant". They used to be built to resist scuffs from rubbing against driveways. That mil-spec designation went away some time ago... |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:58:33 PM EST
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There have been times that the military used the civilian designation, such as the M15 pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M3 carbine M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M15 rifle/LMG M15 pistol M16 rifle M21 rifle M24 rifle anyone want to add? There have been times that the military used the civilian designation, such as the M15 pistol. M40 M45 What about the Marks (Mk)? |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 6:02:05 PM EST
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AR is not "assault rifle". It means anal rape. I tell liberals it stands for "Americas rifle" just to watch their heads explode. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 6:03:07 PM EST
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M3 carbine The M3 carbine was an M2 equipped with infrared night sighting equipment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? M3 carbine The M3 carbine was an M2 equipped with infrared night sighting equipment. M1 submachine gun (Thompson). Don't know what the M2 subgun was. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 6:08:26 PM EST
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AR was Airforce Rifle
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Posted: 7/31/2013 6:44:26 PM EST
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M3 carbine M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M15 rifle/LMG M15 pistol M16 rifle M21 rifle M24 rifle anyone want to add? There have been times that the military used the civilian designation, such as the M15 pistol. M40 M45 What about the Marks (Mk)? I believe the MK designation is a Navy thing. Meaning the Navy developed it so they got to name it. Like torpedoes and shit. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 8:17:23 PM EST
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Lot of crazy answers in this thread, I guess folks don't pay any attention to history.
"AR" is Armalite, all of Gene Stoner's lightweight firearms creations were given "AR" prefix model numbers. Shotguns, .22lr rifles, all got "AR" prefix numbers. Unless Stoner had something else in mind when he started naming his designs. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 8:48:57 PM EST
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Lot of crazy answers in this thread, I guess folks don't pay any attention to history. "AR" is Armalite, all of Gene Stoner's lightweight firearms creations were given "AR" prefix model numbers. Shotguns, .22lr rifles, all got "AR" prefix numbers. Unless Stoner had something else in mind when he started naming his designs. Nonsense |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 9:04:47 PM EST
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AR was Airforce Rifle so the AR-15 was the Air force's 15th brand of rifle Yup Yup Yipper.
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Posted: 7/31/2013 9:06:59 PM EST
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I think we should have stuck with the pre-WW2 system of using the year of adoption in a weapon's name: M1911, M1903, M1918, etc. So the M16 should have been the M1964. I agree its a much simpler system. Or use the last 2 numbers of the year. So instead of a m1 rifle. It would be a m-36 rifle or m-42 carbine. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 9:11:05 PM EST
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So that explains the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine 
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And not. Mil So that explains the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine
In the Army, everything is M-fucking-1. Rifles, carbines, tanks, grenades, etc. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 9:16:22 PM EST
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I believe the MK designation is a Navy thing. Meaning the Navy developed it so they got to name it. Like torpedoes and shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M3 carbine M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M15 rifle/LMG M15 pistol M16 rifle M21 rifle M24 rifle anyone want to add? There have been times that the military used the civilian designation, such as the M15 pistol. M40 M45 What about the Marks (Mk)? I believe the MK designation is a Navy thing. Meaning the Navy developed it so they got to name it. Like torpedoes and shit. M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle (IAR) The new Marine toy. I wanna kewpie doll!
BLU Bomb Live Unit BDU Bomb Dummy Unit Mk82 General Purpose Bomb |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 5:41:28 AM EST
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M2 Carbine. M3 Carbine. M4 Carbine? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why did we get the m4 after the m16? This. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 5:45:00 AM EST
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Because it's not a military weapon.
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Posted: 8/1/2013 5:45:17 AM EST
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You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.)
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Posted: 8/1/2013 5:48:15 AM EST
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US Rifle Caliber 5.56mm M16 US Carbine Caliber 5.56mm M4 Nomenclature in type series. The carbine and rifle are different types and thus have different sequences to follow based on predicate models. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why did we get the m4 after the m16? US Rifle Caliber 5.56mm M16 US Carbine Caliber 5.56mm M4 Nomenclature in type series. The carbine and rifle are different types and thus have different sequences to follow based on predicate models. This. This is why you have a M1 rifle, and M1 carbine, and a M1 tank. It's a pretty simple system. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 5:52:32 AM EST
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Lot of crazy answers in this thread, I guess folks don't pay any attention to history. "AR" is Armalite, all of Gene Stoner's lightweight firearms creations were given "AR" prefix model numbers. Shotguns, .22lr rifles, all got "AR" prefix numbers. Unless Stoner had something else in mind when he started naming his designs. You are incorrect. Eugene Stoner was a partially dyslexic Catholic and rabid football fan, and the AR actually stands for Ave Maria, as he was watching a football game where a "hail Mary" pass was thrown while he was designing it. Since he didn't want to use "HM" and have people think he was secretely a royalist, he went with the Latin, but screwed up the spelling. Now you know the real story. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 6:00:37 AM EST
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AR is not "assault rifle". It means anal rape. "It's an AR-15" "What does the AR stand for?" "Anal Rape. It's my Anal Rape-15. It's a sexual assault rifle." |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 6:06:01 AM EST
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M1 submachine gun (Thompson). Don't know what the M2 subgun was. Quote HistoryQuoted:
M1 submachine gun (Thompson). Don't know what the M2 subgun was. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Hyde The design was designated U.S. Submachinegun, Caliber .45, M2 as a substitute standard for the M1 submachine gun in April, 1942. As Inland's manufacturing capacity became focused on M1 carbine production, the US Army contracted M2 production to Marlin Firearms in July, 1942.[1] Marlin began production in May 1943; but Marlin's original contract for 164,450 M2s was canceled in 1943 upon adoption of the M3 submachine gun.[2] The M2 is chambered for the .45 ACP cartridge and used the same 20 or 30 round magazine as the Thompson. Its cyclic rate of fire is 525 rounds per minute. Only 400 at the most were manufactured and none were issued by any branches of the United States military. 
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Posted: 8/1/2013 6:27:42 AM EST
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After doing a little research, it appears that at least the M12 and M13 were commercially procured .22 rifles. Doesn't appear that either model designation referred to one specific rifle either as the M13 TM covers three different rifles, the Remington 513T, Stevens 416-2T, and Winchester 75T.
http://ia700607.us.archive.org/15/items/TM9-1005-206-12/TM%209-1005-206-12.pdf |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 6:32:05 AM EST
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Uhhhhh..........
I like turtles. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 6:38:11 AM EST
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Why did we go from the M79 to M203 to the M320? Were there that many grenade launchers in-between??? Look at the shotguns, make the those numbers look like nothing M500 M1014 |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 6:40:03 AM EST
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Look at the shotguns, make the those numbers look like nothing M500 M1014 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why did we go from the M79 to M203 to the M320? Were there that many grenade launchers in-between??? Look at the shotguns, make the those numbers look like nothing M500 M1014 Shotguns are easy, almost all of them use the civilian designation as the model number. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 6:43:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: M2 Carbine. M3 Carbine. M4 Carbine? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why did we get the m4 after the m16? The M16 is a carbine compared to the Garand.
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Posted: 8/1/2013 7:00:52 AM EST
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? And to really mess with the mind the M50 & M55 Reising Submachinegun used by USMC along with the M1941 Johnson Rifle and Light Machine Gun. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 7:06:46 AM EST
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M1 garand rifle M1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? M1 helmet 
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Posted: 8/1/2013 7:13:34 AM EST
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US Army designation system was less than rational at times. M1 could be Garand, Thompson or Carbine, M3 could be Lee tank or Greasegun.
The USN designation for AC was the best, giving application, manufacturer and sequence in manufacturer in application. F4F = Fourth Fighter from Grumman, A3J = Third Attack AC from North American. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 7:21:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryShoulder thing that goes up! |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 7:24:51 AM EST
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M1 garand rifle M1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? M1 helmet http://i44.tinypic.com/20pzk01.jpg M1 Abrams and military spec Thompson SMG as well. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 7:40:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. You realize that the above text is eventually going to end up on Wikipedia, right? |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 7:51:20 AM EST
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This thread is hilarious.
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Posted: 8/1/2013 7:56:21 AM EST
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You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Yeah, that's because the bullet tumbles in the air which not only gives it more "knock down" power, it also causes more wounding too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Yeah, that's because the bullet tumbles in the air which not only gives it more "knock down" power, it also causes more wounding too. I thought AR stood for "armor ripping"... |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 8:03:49 AM EST
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. I think you gave me an aneurysm. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 8:17:48 AM EST
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M2 Heavy Machine Gun M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? Ma Deuce! |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 8:30:27 AM EST
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? M40A1 Pulse-Rifle, 10MM. Caseless, Standard Light Armor-Piercing.... |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 8:35:16 AM EST
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I thought AR was from the latin, meaning many springs and small parts.
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I thought AR stood for "armor ripping"... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Yeah, that's because the bullet tumbles in the air which not only gives it more "knock down" power, it also causes more wounding too. I thought AR stood for "armor ripping"... |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 8:40:44 AM EST
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I want to know where the M5 through M13s went. Isn't anyone just a little concerned about that? They've gone missing and no one cares! Yeah. What he said. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 8:50:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: because the M-15 was essentially a LMG variant of the M14 that was never adopted Not exactly. It wasn't an LMG. It was a squad automatic rifle vriant to replace the M1918A2 Browning Automatic Rifle. The M-15 was the proposed nomenclature for fore heavy barrel M14 variant of the M-14 that became the M-14AE2 / M-14A1. Basically, testing showed the heavy barrel wasn't needed. And the M-14A1 with the pistol grip stock and bipod of the M-15 became the short-lived squad automatic rifle before the M-16A1 became standard. And then the squad's automatic riflemen just got the 'clothespin' bipods to use in their role. |
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Posted: 8/1/2013 8:52:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) I didn't think they became 'Abrasion Repeaters' until Mattel started making them. |
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