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Posted: 8/5/2017 8:14:20 AM EST
http://freebeacon.com/issues/dea-20-percent-cut-opioid-2018/


HEADQUARTERS NEWS
August 04, 2017
Contact: DEA Public Affairs
(202) 307-7977

DEA proposes reduction to amount of controlled substances to be manufactured in 2018
AUG 04 (WASHINGTON, D.C.) – The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration is proposing a reduction for controlled substances that may be manufactured in the U.S. next year by 20 percent as compared to 2017, per the proposed notice being published in the Federal Register on August 7, 2017 and available for public inspection today.

The DEA has proposed to reduce more commonly prescribed schedule II opioid painkillers, including oxycodone, hydrocodone, oxymorphone, hydromorphone, morphine, codeine, meperidine and fentanyl.  Demand for these opioid medicines has dropped, according to sales data obtained by DEA from IMS Health, a company that provides insurance companies with data on prescriptions written and prescription medications sold in America.
“Physicians, pharmacists, and patients must recognize the inherent risks of these powerful medications, especially for long-term use,” said Acting Administrator Chuck Rosenberg. “More states are mandating use of prescription drug monitoring programs, which is good, and that has prompted a decrease in opioid prescriptions.”

The Proposed Aggregate Production Quotas (APQ) for Schedule I and II controlled substances that is being published in the Federal Register reflects the total amount of controlled substances needed to meet the country’s legitimate medical, scientific, research, industrial, and export needs for the year and for the maintenance of reserve stocks.  
In 2016, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued guidelines to practitioners recommending a reduction in prescribing opioid medications for chronic pain. DEA and its federal partners have increased efforts in the last several years to educate practitioners, pharmacists, manufacturers, and the public about the dangers associated with the misuse of opioid medications and the importance of properly prescribing.

When Congress passed the Controlled Substances Act, the quota system was intended to reduce or eliminate diversion from “legitimate channels of trade” by controlling the quantities of the basic ingredients needed for the manufacture of controlled substances. The purpose of quotas is to provide for an adequate and uninterrupted supply for legitimate medical need of schedule I and schedule II controlled substances, which have a high potential for abuse, while limiting the amounts available to prevent diversion.
DEA must balance the production of what is needed for legitimate use against the production of an excessive amount of these potentially harmful substances. DEA establishes an APQ for more than 250 schedule I and II controlled substances annually.
In setting the APQ, DEA considers data from many sources, including estimates of the legitimate medical need from the Food and Drug Administration; estimates of retail consumption based on prescriptions dispensed; manufacturers’ disposition history and forecasts; data from DEA’s own internal system for tracking controlled substance transactions; and past quota histories.

Once the aggregate quota is set, DEA allocates individual manufacturing and procurement quotas to those manufacturers that apply for them. DEA may revise a company’s quota at any time during the year if change is warranted due to increased sales or exports; new manufacturers entering the market; new product development; or product recalls.

The Federal Register notice is available here:
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:15:45 AM EST
[#1]
The state controlling production. Awesome.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:22:23 AM EST
[#2]
That's fucking outrageous.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:24:16 AM EST
[#3]
Pure 'tardery that will only hurt people who have legitimate needs for the drugs.

Addicts will find the stuff one way or another.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:25:36 AM EST
[#4]
Pharma companies should just say forget it and quit producing any. Let the US deal 
with that. In fact, move overseas and produce and sell nothing in the US. The US
would soon change its tune.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:25:54 AM EST
[#5]
And the cartels will get to sell 20% more heroin.

Genius.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:25:59 AM EST
[#6]
Didn't the Deep State Obama Holder Over just open his cock-holster talking about President Trump encourage LE Abuse of Authority in the last week or so?
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:28:57 AM EST
[#7]
No problem, the cartels will quickly fill that gap with cheaply produced fentanyl which is approx. 1000 times stronger than heroin.

Another smart move by the Feds.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:29:36 AM EST
[#8]
So people won't get high from pills, they will be back to dealers and Heroin.

I went to the drs office this week. Walk-in clinic. I needed a yearly check-up for work.

Told to wait for 15 minutes.

Kids getting their school/sports check ups fill the waiting room with their parents.

I am in and out, so not worried about the wait.

In walks a 20-something girl, hunched-over, crying. Boy same age is with her. They see the receptionist. Then sit across from me.

My instinct was to say, "did you hit your girlfriend, punk?"

But, I myob, every few minutes, the nurse calls back a couple kids and their parents.

Meanwhile, this lady is in the waiting room openly rocking back and forth crying.

Then after ~15 minutes, they call my name.

I almost say, "take *that* lady."

But I wait till they get me back behind the door, then I say it.

The nurse says, "she just wants drugs. She is putting on a show."

Prescription drug abuse is an epidemic...

Don't ask me for a solution...
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:30:55 AM EST
[#9]
I'm sure that'll work
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:32:14 AM EST
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Pure 'tardery that will only hurt people who have legitimate needs for the drugs.

Addicts will find the stuff one way or another.
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We would all be better off if addicts had easy access to cheaper medical grade drugs.  It's not like they are going to stop being addicts unless they want to.

Even if they did steal to get what they wanted, they'd have to steal less to pay for it.  All driving up the cost does is drive up the amount of crime they have to do to get what they seek.

Then, we put them in prison....at taxpayer expense........which again picks my pocket both on spending on the WOD and on prison.  
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:33:58 AM EST
[#11]
Everything the government touches turns to shit.

Opioid abuse prompted the government to jump in and limit their availability.  Guess what?  We now have a heroin problem to fill the vacuum.  Cut production via government mandate?  The free market will find a way to compensate.  

The heroin problem is about to get even worse.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:35:16 AM EST
[#12]
I vote increase by 200% and hand it out like candy.....let Darwin sort this shit out
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:35:34 AM EST
[#13]
I don't get the outrage. Did anyone read the article? It said there is a decline in the demand spurred by laws/regs over the past few years and docs not prescribing as much. Makes sense to me to reduce the amount of surplus manufactured.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:35:59 AM EST
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And the cartels will get to sell 20% more heroin.

Genius.
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Almost like .gov is working with the cartels.  Surely it's just tinfoil torqued too tightly.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:40:36 AM EST
[#15]
Maybe they should reduce the production of cars to reduce vehicular deaths while they're at it
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:40:59 AM EST
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The market will figure it out- and narcotics have a good shelf life.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:41:29 AM EST
[#17]
1. I see posters did not read the article.
2. I want the gov out of my business, but I want them to subsidize my shitty choices.  Pick one.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:41:47 AM EST
[#18]
This is nothing new
The precursors have been controlled for years.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:44:00 AM EST
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The state controlling production. Awesome.
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The deep state needs more demand for the poppy products being shipped in from overseas to continue their resistance to Trump

Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:47:09 AM EST
[#20]
bad news for junkies, they'll have to do with 20% less
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:47:14 AM EST
[#21]
Fuck the DEA. They're the reason patients in tremendous chronic pain get told to fuck off and don't get the pain relief they need. They've got doctors afraid to actually treat patients in the most effective and compassionate manner. DEA should be disbanded.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:49:23 AM EST
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That's fucking outrageous.
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Link Posted: 8/5/2017 8:52:58 AM EST
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And the cartels will get to sell 20% more heroin.

Genius.
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This

You blam Pharma because you can sue them and get moneybut you cant sue the Cartel.

Just like cigarettes. Its for the children(LAWYERS).
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:00:45 AM EST
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Of course, thats what they are best at doing, regulating themselves in a circle until something becomes completely illegal. They're sticking their noses in matters that they have no business in. 
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:00:51 AM EST
[#25]
In before the for the childreners? 
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:03:05 AM EST
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bad news for junkies, they'll have to do with 20% less
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Ha.  Heroin has never been easier since it's all synthetic these days.  More fence sitters will just be moved to heroin full time.  That's been underway for many years now. 
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:04:20 AM EST
[#27]
Next up: "Government puzzled by spike in fentanyl-laced heroin overdoses."
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:04:24 AM EST
[#28]
Um, how about no.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:05:41 AM EST
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Ha.  Heroin has never been easier since it's all synthetic these days.  More fence sitters will just be moved to heroin full time.  That's been underway for many years now. 
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Yup
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:20:02 AM EST
[#30]
Narcan sales must be lagging.

Manufactured crisis, manufactured critical response intended for sale to the taxpayers.

They should triple opiate production and cut narcan production 95%.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:29:06 AM EST
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I don't get the outrage. Did anyone read the article? It said there is a decline in the demand spurred by laws/regs over the past few years and docs not prescribing as much. Makes sense to me to reduce the amount of surplus manufactured.
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Demand decreased because the DEA is prosecuting doctors for prescribing more painkillers than the government thinks is "necessary."

Let *that* sink in a moment.

The government bureaucrats decided that in order to stop opiate abuse it had to tell medical professionals to stop doing their jobs, then, in order to combat the growing black market for opiates (caused by the first encroachment) it has to tell the manufacturers to stop doing their jobs.

Where, exactly, does it end?
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:34:53 AM EST
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Demand decreased because the DEA is prosecuting doctors for prescribing more painkillers than the government thinks is "necessary."

Let *that* sink in a moment.

The government bureaucrats decided that in order to stop opiate abuse it had to tell medical professionals to stop doing their jobs, then, in order to combat the growing black market for opiates (caused by the first encroachment) it has to tell the manufacturers to stop doing their jobs.

Where, exactly, does it end?
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I don't get the outrage. Did anyone read the article? It said there is a decline in the demand spurred by laws/regs over the past few years and docs not prescribing as much. Makes sense to me to reduce the amount of surplus manufactured.
Demand decreased because the DEA is prosecuting doctors for prescribing more painkillers than the government thinks is "necessary."

Let *that* sink in a moment.

The government bureaucrats decided that in order to stop opiate abuse it had to tell medical professionals to stop doing their jobs, then, in order to combat the growing black market for opiates (caused by the first encroachment) it has to tell the manufacturers to stop doing their jobs.

Where, exactly, does it end?
It ends when you have to get on your knees to kiss the kings feet and beg him to make your pain go away. 
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:35:26 AM EST
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Demand decreased because the DEA is prosecuting doctors for prescribing more painkillers than the government thinks is "necessary."

Let *that* sink in a moment.

The government bureaucrats decided that in order to stop opiate abuse it had to tell medical professionals to stop doing their jobs, then, in order to combat the growing black market for opiates (caused by the first encroachment) it has to tell the manufacturers to stop doing their jobs.

Where, exactly, does it end?
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Well, I drive through the area of WV regularly that made the news for the number of rx filled. Something like millions of doses there isn't 1000 people living in the immediate area. I would imagine that maybe the DEA might be right that there was a problem with that pharmacy and the doctors writing the rxs. At a certain point even the local county cops knew they had a serious problem with that pharmacy.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:35:31 AM EST
[#34]
I don't get allure of opioids.  The few times they have been prescribed to me I have always had leftovers.  I say let the dopers buy them cause they are going to anyway.  Legalize weed also.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:43:23 AM EST
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Of course, thats what they are best at doing, regulating themselves in a circle until something becomes completely illegal. They're sticking their noses in matters that they have no business in. 
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I don't get the outrage. Did anyone read the article? It said there is a decline in the demand spurred by laws/regs over the past few years and docs not prescribing as much. Makes sense to me to reduce the amount of surplus manufactured.
Of course, thats what they are best at doing, regulating themselves in a circle until something becomes completely illegal. They're sticking their noses in matters that they have no business in. 
Exactly. Demand is down because they've scared doctors from prescribing. now go after supply, then rinse and repeat
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:44:19 AM EST
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I don't get allure of opioids.  The few times they have been prescribed to me I have always had leftovers.  I say let the dopers buy them cause they are going to anyway.  Legalize weed also.
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Same here. Any time I get some prescribed, I try to ration them so that if something happened to me in the future and I actually NEED one that I have one. Saved me a couple times when I had migraines.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:48:55 AM EST
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The allure is...they work. If you've got a bad back or other chronic pain, they are magical.

I make no excuses for the tards that just wanna get high. They make it harder for legitimate users to get the medicine that lets them function mostly normally.

You can't even get hydrocodone or anything like that here, unless you get it illegally and risk running afoul of a Duterte death squad.

Strongest you can get here is tramadol, which works if you take enough of it.
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I don't get allure of opioids.  The few times they have been prescribed to me I have always had leftovers.  I say let the dopers buy them cause they are going to anyway.  Legalize weed also.
The allure is...they work. If you've got a bad back or other chronic pain, they are magical.

I make no excuses for the tards that just wanna get high. They make it harder for legitimate users to get the medicine that lets them function mostly normally.

You can't even get hydrocodone or anything like that here, unless you get it illegally and risk running afoul of a Duterte death squad.

Strongest you can get here is tramadol, which works if you take enough of it.
If it saves one child then your painful death is worth it! 
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:48:55 AM EST
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No problem, the cartels will quickly fill that gap with cheaply produced fentanyl which is approx. 1000 times stronger than heroin.

Another smart move by the Feds.
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Yep. That shit is already flooding the border.

Let the bodies hit the floor.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:50:05 AM EST
[#40]
They should cut the supply of narcan. That would fix the opioids problem in short order
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:52:04 AM EST
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Heroin use up by 20%

Big Gov is a fucking genius.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:55:48 AM EST
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Well, I drive through the area of WV regularly that made the news for the number of rx filled. Something like millions of doses there isn't 1000 people living in the immediate area. I would imagine that maybe the DEA might be right that there was a problem with that pharmacy and the doctors writing the rxs. At a certain point even the local county cops knew they had a serious problem with that pharmacy.
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Demand decreased because the DEA is prosecuting doctors for prescribing more painkillers than the government thinks is "necessary."

Let *that* sink in a moment.

The government bureaucrats decided that in order to stop opiate abuse it had to tell medical professionals to stop doing their jobs, then, in order to combat the growing black market for opiates (caused by the first encroachment) it has to tell the manufacturers to stop doing their jobs.

Where, exactly, does it end?
Well, I drive through the area of WV regularly that made the news for the number of rx filled. Something like millions of doses there isn't 1000 people living in the immediate area. I would imagine that maybe the DEA might be right that there was a problem with that pharmacy and the doctors writing the rxs. At a certain point even the local county cops knew they had a serious problem with that pharmacy.
Now they will get to deal with Heroin. Good luck.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 9:57:04 AM EST
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I don't get allure of opioids.  The few times they have been prescribed to me I have always had leftovers.  I say let the dopers buy them cause they are going to anyway.  Legalize weed also.
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Brain chemistry is one factor. Your brain is not wired for opioid addiction. There are people who can snort coke on Friday and Saturday and leave the powder alone for days, weeks, even years. They knock back some Jack and effectively climb into a bottle for a decade or so. Same with the Os, people can follow the dosing methods, then quit with no symptoms. Then there is my mom who was on them for a while for knee surgeries and when her Rx ran out got sick as a dog for several weeks...which was effectively withdrawl, she thought one of her students gave her the nastiest flu bugs ever.
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A bunch of the addicts are already dead from Os and everything else. It is one of the reasons the pharmacy made the national news.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 10:00:59 AM EST
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Cut Narcan production.....problem will solve it's self.
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No problem, the cartels will quickly fill that gap with cheaply produced fentanyl which is approx. 1000 times stronger than heroin.

Another smart move by the Feds.
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Of course.

How else will you justify increasing spending the war on drugs?
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 10:22:47 AM EST
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A few years back I had to go to the ER and was in the waiting room when some young girl clearly going through withdrawals walks in and sits next to me. She keeps shivering and says she is cold so I walk to my car and go give her my extra jacket. She looks at me stunned, like no one ever did something like that.

As my name was called I told her to keep it. The nurse in triage was like, "why did you do that? She's a junkie you know?"
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 10:28:53 AM EST
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Not enough IMO. Opioid epidemic is getting worse. Glad they are focusing on the source. Most Teens Who Abuse Opioids First Got Them From a Doctor.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 10:31:20 AM EST
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Well, I drive through the area of WV regularly that made the news for the number of rx filled. Something like millions of doses there isn't 1000 people living in the immediate area. I would imagine that maybe the DEA might be right that there was a problem with that pharmacy and the doctors writing the rxs. At a certain point even the local county cops knew they had a serious problem with that pharmacy.
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Sure. What could go wrong with having the federal government involved in healthcare?

I think they should go balls deep and make sure that every diagnoses meets federal guidelines. Hell, they should be able to tell you what doctors you're allowed to see, they should even get involved in pricing.

It will be a paradise.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 10:33:33 AM EST
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proving once again that the Federal Government can't do anything right.  Cutting production will only raise prices, and increase crime.   There is no known method to make folks stop wanting to get stoned.   Never has been, never will.   The desire to alter your reality is as old as mankind.  It has never been controlled.
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