Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
User Panel

Site Notices
Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Posted: 2/17/2014 9:49:36 AM EST
I applied to a local manufacturing shop for an ad they posted about a trainee, I would love to get into machining but I have no experience in the field. I guess I answered all their questions correctly and today I was told they wanted me to come in for a blueprint and math assessment. This is all new to me, any info on what I should expect for the math and blueprints? What should I wear, my whole family are electricians and they said wearing a suit would be too much for this type of job?

I was very upfront about having no experience but mentioned how I am very eager to learn and everything in this field is completely new to me, I just don't want to walk in lost.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 10:01:31 AM EST
[#1]
Little bit of Trig
Calculating Angles
Ability to identify features and dimensions on a print...
Simple stuff really.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 10:05:31 AM EST
[#2]
If their math skill assessment tests are anything like the one I use for prospects it will contain basic geometry, some trigonometry, fraction to decimal conversions and metrics. Blueprint reading is different altogether and is not as standardized as it used to be and should be IMHO. If you have had any technical drawing classes you should be able to stumble through a blueprint reading assessment but that does not mean you will be proficient at their particular type of drawings until you become accustomed to their interpretation. My business is a job shop and we get drawings and models in from a lot of different customers and few of them follow the same format; commercial aviation drawing are vastly different from automotive for example. New hires, usually even experienced ones, always need supplemental training on correct drawing interpretation and geometric dimensioning.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 10:05:51 AM EST
[#3]
Most of the math (Should be) basic math with algebra and geometry. Understanding units (Inch/Metric conversion) and scale. Blueprint reading is exactly that, someone should show you some basics, but who knows how much they expect. Understanding a orthographic layout I'm sure is a must, along with understanding view call-outs, like detail and section views.

I'm sure you could Google and learn some of this online on your own.

Understanding the difference between a distance versus an offset versus scale would be of some help. Since dealing with offsets is basically what you will be dealing with all the time.

Just a fyi that they would expect you to understand is "machinists" lingo is everything is based on a "Thou" or thousandths of an inch

1 thou  = 0.001
10 thou = 0.010
100 thou = 0.100
1 tenth = 0.0001

Just about the opposite of what you learned in regular math classes from a lingo standpoint.


Link Posted: 2/17/2014 10:07:11 AM EST
[#4]


Also google ANSI hole callouts


http://academic.kellogg.edu/cad/pdf/Hole_callouts.pdf

Link Posted: 2/17/2014 10:12:32 AM EST
[#5]
Hello,
Wear closed toe shoes (steel toe boots preferably) and clean jeans with a button down collared shirt. Bring your own eye protection and put it on without being prompted if you go in to the shop. Don't wear any jewelry or a watch. Don't check your phone during the formal interview or informal shop tour. Don't have long hair or baggy sleeves.

Math: previous poster covered the basics. Know your inch fractions and their corresponding decimal values to an eighth if you can. Perhaps go by a pawn shop and buy an inexpensive dial caliper and an 0-1 mic and familiarize yourself with their use.

Good luck. A lot of it is just showing up on time, peeing clean, and demonstrating an ability and drive to learn.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 10:40:39 AM EST
[#6]
You guys are great, I really appreciate it. I'll make sure to brush up on everything mentioned.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 10:47:23 AM EST
[#7]
This is really just an old style tag because I'm an amateur machinist, but jvhuse's post is packed to the gills with wisdom.

Link Posted: 2/17/2014 10:51:53 AM EST
[#8]
what the shop manufactures will greatly influence what their blueprint assessment involves
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:01:51 AM EST
[#9]
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:03:08 AM EST
[#10]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
what the shop manufactures will greatly influence what their blueprint assessment involves
View Quote


Yup.    

Drill pipe?   Shit might be in Crayon.

Helical gears?   Prints will have quite a bit of data.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:03:19 AM EST
[#11]
Tell the owner you have primo pawn shop connections and you can hook him up.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:04:33 AM EST
[#12]
Am I the only person who pays attention to how everyone else dresses when I go to a company?
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:09:49 AM EST
[#13]
A math and print test could run the gamut.

Could be as simple as knowing decimal/fractions and reading a scale, mics, calipers.

Could be applied trig so you have to figure a dimension over rolls given a sharp corner dimension of a tapered part. Or, finding tangent points of intersecting arcs.

Print reading could be as simple as "find the OAL of this part".

It could be "Explain the difference between first and third projections", "Explain geometric tolerance"

Basically (and it sounds like you have done it right) Don't try to bull shit your way through a machine shop. You won't.

An assessment could be just a tool for them to know where/how to place you.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:09:51 AM EST
[#14]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Am I the only person who pays attention to how everyone else dresses when I go to a company?
View Quote

In a machine shop?
Probably.    

Last two interviews I did were in steel toes and work clothes.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:11:48 AM EST
[#15]
Sneak up on a dimension or you killed the part.
How to hold a part so you don't have a, " Oh Shit when you flop
or do the other end."
Shimming a part on the surface grinder so its flat when your done.
The list goes on and on.
You wont never learn it all. If you think you have, load your roll away on
your truck and go home. Your done and wont be much help to anyone else.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:12:23 AM EST
[#16]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:13:15 AM EST
[#17]
Dial calipers are pretty simple.  

Here is a quick video on how to read a micrometer.

Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:18:24 AM EST
[#18]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:26:07 AM EST
[#19]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.


flat head screwdriver
spider fucker'upper
when applied right, bottle cap remover
back scratcher
with the right gauge pin, improvised compass
bookmark
when used with sin bars, very shallow angles
can be used as a rough 0.750"  or 0.0468" gauge

Shit, with enough time they should be able to at least fill two pages.  

Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:31:12 AM EST
[#20]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


flat head screwdriver
spider fucker'upper
when applied right, bottle cap remover
back scratcher
with the right gauge pin, improvised compass
bookmark
when used with sin bars, very shallow angles
can be used as a rough 0.750"  or 0.0468" gauge

Shit, with enough time they should be able to at least fill two pages.  

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.


flat head screwdriver
spider fucker'upper
when applied right, bottle cap remover
back scratcher
with the right gauge pin, improvised compass
bookmark
when used with sin bars, very shallow angles
can be used as a rough 0.750"  or 0.0468" gauge

Shit, with enough time they should be able to at least fill two pages.  



I have yet to see someone use it for a good short cut my little old English mentor showed me.

Place scale on mag chuck. Place angle plate "upside down" next to scale and turn on magnet. Place workpiece on plate and let it slide down to rest on scale, making sure one end is shy of edge of plate. C-clamp in place. Undo chuck. You now have a workpiece that is about .02 proud of the angle plate and true, ready to grind the first edge. (Side against and side parallel the plate are already ground).

When they get to "finger nail cleaner and coffee stirrer", you know you have a seasoned veteran of a tool maker.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:33:43 AM EST
[#21]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.


does the interview end right then and there if the first answer is NOT coffee stirrer?

speed
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:33:53 AM EST
[#22]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


flat head screwdriver
spider fucker'upper
when applied right, bottle cap remover
back scratcher
with the right gauge pin, improvised compass
bookmark
when used with sin bars, very shallow angles
can be used as a rough 0.750"  or 0.0468" gauge

Shit, with enough time they should be able to at least fill two pages.  

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.


flat head screwdriver
spider fucker'upper
when applied right, bottle cap remover
back scratcher
with the right gauge pin, improvised compass
bookmark
when used with sin bars, very shallow angles
can be used as a rough 0.750"  or 0.0468" gauge

Shit, with enough time they should be able to at least fill two pages.  



Coffee stir stick.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:34:30 AM EST
[#23]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

In a machine shop?
Probably.    

Last two interviews I did were in steel toes and work clothes.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Am I the only person who pays attention to how everyone else dresses when I go to a company?

In a machine shop?
Probably.    

Last two interviews I did were in steel toes and work clothes.

Which tells you want you need to know... Are they business casual? Work wear (Flannels, jeans)? Ts and Carharts (Which I put a bit below workwear)..l Do they do their milling in full Tux and Tails? (Because I would seriously consider paying extra for that kind of service. Especially if they talked with english accents and treated everyone like they were butlers).
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:34:38 AM EST
[#24]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


flat head screwdriver
spider fucker'upper
when applied right, bottle cap remover
back scratcher
with the right gauge pin, improvised compass
bookmark
when used with sin bars, very shallow angles
can be used as a rough 0.750"  or 0.0468" gauge

Shit, with enough time they should be able to at least fill two pages.  

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.


flat head screwdriver
spider fucker'upper
when applied right, bottle cap remover
back scratcher
with the right gauge pin, improvised compass
bookmark
when used with sin bars, very shallow angles
can be used as a rough 0.750"  or 0.0468" gauge

Shit, with enough time they should be able to at least fill two pages.  



Manicure tool
Plastic deburring tool
Decision making tool (We made the "Lunch Spinner™" to to decide where we were ordering lunch from)
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:35:07 AM EST
[#25]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


I have yet to see someone use it for a good short cut my little old English mentor showed me.

Place scale on mag chuck. Place angle plate "upside down" next to scale and turn on magnet. Place workpiece on plate and let it slide down to rest on scale, making sure one end is shy of edge of plate. C-clamp in place. Undo chuck. You now have a workpiece that is about .02 proud of the angle plate and true, ready to grind the first edge. (Side against and side parallel the plate are already ground).

When they get to "finger nail cleaner and coffee stirrer", you know you have a seasoned veteran of a tool maker.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.


flat head screwdriver
spider fucker'upper
when applied right, bottle cap remover
back scratcher
with the right gauge pin, improvised compass
bookmark
when used with sin bars, very shallow angles
can be used as a rough 0.750"  or 0.0468" gauge

Shit, with enough time they should be able to at least fill two pages.  



I have yet to see someone use it for a good short cut my little old English mentor showed me.

Place scale on mag chuck. Place angle plate "upside down" next to scale and turn on magnet. Place workpiece on plate and let it slide down to rest on scale, making sure one end is shy of edge of plate. C-clamp in place. Undo chuck. You now have a workpiece that is about .02 proud of the angle plate and true, ready to grind the first edge. (Side against and side parallel the plate are already ground).

When they get to "finger nail cleaner and coffee stirrer", you know you have a seasoned veteran of a tool maker.


we destroyed three scales by using them to hold a piece in place on a blanchard grinder.    everything just kinda exploded.  
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:36:19 AM EST
[#26]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


Coffee stir stick.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.


flat head screwdriver
spider fucker'upper
when applied right, bottle cap remover
back scratcher
with the right gauge pin, improvised compass
bookmark
when used with sin bars, very shallow angles
can be used as a rough 0.750"  or 0.0468" gauge

Shit, with enough time they should be able to at least fill two pages.  



Coffee stir stick.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


Then WTF do I do with my 3" standard?  

Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:37:30 AM EST
[#27]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale
When they get to "finger nail cleaner and coffee stirrer", you know you have a seasoned veteran of a tool maker.


C'mon, I'm a rookie and I know the coffee stir stick... I don't even drink coffee!

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:40:12 AM EST
[#28]
You can make a bad ass siren out of a TNMG insert, Rod type ID mic, and a blow gun.  
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:44:12 AM EST
[#29]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

C'mon, I'm a rookie and I know the coffee stir stick... I don't even drink coffee!

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale
When they get to "finger nail cleaner and coffee stirrer", you know you have a seasoned veteran of a tool maker.


C'mon, I'm a rookie and I know the coffee stir stick... I don't even drink coffee!

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile



It's the combo, man. The combo.

Actually, I observe with suspicion, anyone who puts shit in perfectly black coffee. I like my coffee like my women.

































Bitter.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:45:36 AM EST
[#30]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
You can make a bad ass siren out of a TNMG insert, Rod type ID mic, and a blow gun.  
View Quote



Yeah, only I use a little Allen wrench. They can throw sparks if they slip off the wrench onto a piece of steel. I bet they get up to 30 or 40k rpm.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:45:57 AM EST
[#31]
3" standard? Now I'll show my rookie stripes... Never heard of one of those. (At least not by that name)

I told a new guy to ask the supervisor what drawer he kept the hole shrinker in. He thought about it.  :)

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:47:51 AM EST
[#32]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



It's the combo, man. The combo.

Actually, I observe with suspicion, anyone who puts shit in perfectly black coffee. I like my coffee like my women.

Bitter.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale
When they get to "finger nail cleaner and coffee stirrer", you know you have a seasoned veteran of a tool maker.


C'mon, I'm a rookie and I know the coffee stir stick... I don't even drink coffee!

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile



It's the combo, man. The combo.

Actually, I observe with suspicion, anyone who puts shit in perfectly black coffee. I like my coffee like my women.

Bitter.


Haha!


Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 11:51:51 AM EST
[#33]
Place it between the tool bit and part to see if your machining close to center.
If its tilting one way or another move tool post up or down until scale is vertical to
the part.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 12:00:08 PM EST
[#34]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Yeah, only I use a little Allen wrench. They can throw sparks if they slip off the wrench onto a piece of steel. I bet they get up to 30 or 40k rpm.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
You can make a bad ass siren out of a TNMG insert, Rod type ID mic, and a blow gun.  



Yeah, only I use a little Allen wrench. They can throw sparks if they slip off the wrench onto a piece of steel. I bet they get up to 30 or 40k rpm.


We always used a coat hanger.     I was joking about the ID mic.    It would trash a mic rod in a hurry.  
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 12:01:18 PM EST
[#35]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Place it between the tool bit and part to see if your machining close to center.
If its tilting one way or another move tool post up or down until scale is vertical to
the part.
View Quote


Yup.  
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 12:31:12 PM EST
[#36]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



It's the combo, man. The combo.

Actually, I observe with suspicion, anyone who puts shit in perfectly black coffee. I like my coffee like my women.

































Bitter.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale
When they get to "finger nail cleaner and coffee stirrer", you know you have a seasoned veteran of a tool maker.


C'mon, I'm a rookie and I know the coffee stir stick... I don't even drink coffee!

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile



It's the combo, man. The combo.

Actually, I observe with suspicion, anyone who puts shit in perfectly black coffee. I like my coffee like my women.

































Bitter.


I will send my ex your way...........

speed

Link Posted: 2/17/2014 4:13:00 PM EST
[#37]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.


That's a good one.  Another is to hand them a 1" mic and piece of round bar.  See if they hold the mic properly or if they act like they wish they had three hands.

Moot point.  I rarely get applicants that claim experience any more.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 4:14:13 PM EST
[#38]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
You can make a bad ass siren out of a TNMG insert, Rod type ID mic, and a blow gun.  
View Quote


hahaha
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 4:56:56 PM EST
[#39]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



Yeah, only I use a little Allen wrench. They can throw sparks if they slip off the wrench onto a piece of steel. I bet they get up to 30 or 40k rpm.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
You can make a bad ass siren out of a TNMG insert, Rod type ID mic, and a blow gun.  



Yeah, only I use a little Allen wrench. They can throw sparks if they slip off the wrench onto a piece of steel. I bet they get up to 30 or 40k rpm.


Went and grabbed a TNMG insert and some wire earlier, been playing with it making noise.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 4:57:55 PM EST
[#40]
math math math
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 5:09:29 PM EST
[#41]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:


That's a good one.  Another is to hand them a 1" mic and piece of round bar.  See if they hold the mic properly or if they act like they wish they had three hands.

Moot point.  I rarely get applicants that claim experience any more.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:


The only time I quiz anyone on GD&T is when they're purporting experience.  I don't on entry level trainee types.

I didn't see it mentioned but I may have missed it.  Fractions will probably be on the math quiz.  By 64ths.



Why? You don't like to see folks squirm?

I've resorted to one test for an interview of someone who claims experience. Hand them a 6" scale and ask them to list all of the uses for this tool. I'll be able to tell how long they've been in a shop by how long the list is.


That's a good one.  Another is to hand them a 1" mic and piece of round bar.  See if they hold the mic properly or if they act like they wish they had three hands.

Moot point.  I rarely get applicants that claim experience any more.

Also give them a piece of flat plate.
If they clamp the plate to the desk with the mic, give them a welding hood.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 5:26:51 PM EST
[#42]
hand them an vernier caliper and ask them to read it.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 5:41:34 PM EST
[#43]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
hand them an vernier caliper and ask them to read it.
View Quote


We had a guy with a claimed 25 years of experience.   He may have been telling the truth, he was damn good with a lathe.    He had to be shown how to read a vernier caliper.  
He said he had always used dial calipers.     Our shop only had dial calipers up to 24".
He knew how to read a mic so it only took a second, just thought it was strange he could not figure it out on his own.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 5:47:34 PM EST
[#44]
Depth mics are good too. The whole backward thing screws with a lot of lesser experienced people.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 5:54:12 PM EST
[#45]
Basically (and it sounds like you have done it right) Don't try to bull shit your way through a machine shop. You won't.

An assessment could be just a tool for them to know where/how to place you.
View Quote

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This above all.  Show a keen interest to learn on your own if certain prior-knowledge requirements are missing from your repetorie.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 6:13:13 PM EST
[#46]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This above all.  Show a keen interest to learn on your own if certain prior-knowledge requirements are missing from your repetorie.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Basically (and it sounds like you have done it right) Don't try to bull shit your way through a machine shop. You won't.

An assessment could be just a tool for them to know where/how to place you.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This above all.  Show a keen interest to learn on your own if certain prior-knowledge requirements are missing from your repetorie.


Yup.   Knowing more will help, but a LOT of machine shops will hire without any knowledge.   They can find a spot for you.   It might be shipping, cleaning machines, and sweeping until the other machinists have a couple minutes to show you something.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 6:48:13 PM EST
[#47]
I started off running a manual lathe, rotary broaching parts in 1000 piece lots.
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 7:09:11 PM EST
[#48]

Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:



That's a good one.  Another is to hand them a 1" mic and piece of round bar.  See if they hold the mic properly or if they act like they wish they had three hands.

View Quote


I'm currently teaching machine shop.  After observing some of the students, I confiscated everyone's digital calipers.  It was pretty obvious no one was going to actually learn how to read a mic as long as they could use a digital caliper.



 
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 7:13:08 PM EST
[#49]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

I'm currently teaching machine shop.  After observing some of the students, I confiscated everyone's digital calipers.  It was pretty obvious no one was going to actually learn how to read a mic as long as they could use a digital caliper.
 
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:

That's a good one.  Another is to hand them a 1" mic and piece of round bar.  See if they hold the mic properly or if they act like they wish they had three hands.

I'm currently teaching machine shop.  After observing some of the students, I confiscated everyone's digital calipers.  It was pretty obvious no one was going to actually learn how to read a mic as long as they could use a digital caliper.
 


That should be easy enough to handle.  Make everything +.001 -.000 and let them measure with whatever their little hearts desire
Link Posted: 2/17/2014 7:15:33 PM EST
[#50]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:

I'm currently teaching machine shop.  After observing some of the students, I confiscated everyone's digital calipers.  It was pretty obvious no one was going to actually learn how to read a mic as long as they could use a digital caliper.
 
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Quoted:

That's a good one.  Another is to hand them a 1" mic and piece of round bar.  See if they hold the mic properly or if they act like they wish they had three hands.

I'm currently teaching machine shop.  After observing some of the students, I confiscated everyone's digital calipers.  It was pretty obvious no one was going to actually learn how to read a mic as long as they could use a digital caliper.
 


We damn near had to confiscate them from the Industrial Engineer the company hired as an inspector (Owners son).   He was rejecting parts because he did not zero the damn things correctly.
When I left he was still trying to implement that lean manufacturing black belt shit.    He said we were wasting time by finishing all shafts on one side, then finishing them on the other side.  He said we needed to completely finish each shaft, one at a time.  
This was for manual AND CNC.
Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Close Join Our Mail List to Stay Up To Date! Win a FREE Membership!

Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!

You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.


By signing up you agree to our User Agreement. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win.
Top Top