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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:36:49 AM EST
[#1]
Sounds like he needed a hickory shampoo.
I couldn’t be a cop and deal with shitbags every day. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:37:00 AM EST
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this was built/licensed for ALEA and is more or less still in testing. it's only distro to LE. it's not a publicly available app. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:37:06 AM EST
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That has been happening for a long time. You got a DL, Govt. ID, passport? You're already in the system. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:37:39 AM EST
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Why not just use a fingerprint scanner? Seems like it would be more accurate. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:39:28 AM EST
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Proliferation of facial scanning has made me wonder about picking up some small IR emitting LEDs and doing some experiments with a ballcap to see how hard it would be to blind said cameras.
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:39:42 AM EST
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Probably can't force prints on a traffic stop, do they even have portable ones? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why not just use a fingerprint scanner? Seems like it would be more accurate. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:41:44 AM EST
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Not being a dick and only read the OP but what does an obviously suspicious vehicle look like?
I’m genuinely curious what makes it obvious. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:42:34 AM EST
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What does an obviously suspicious vehicle look like? |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:43:00 AM EST
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Not being a dick and only read the OP but what does an obviously suspicious vehicle look like? I’m genuinely curious what makes it obvious. 
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:55:01 AM EST
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Kinda cool, kinda scary. We have some amazing software and hardware right now. Things that would make locating almost anyone in a very short period of time. Also imagine being able to roll back a camera reel of your last six years worth movement and associates. It’s a brave new world out there boys. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:57:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You ain’t seen nothing yet. We have some amazing software and hardware right now. Things that would make locating almost anyone in a very short period of time. Also imagine being able to roll back a camera reel of your last six years worth movement and associates. It’s a brave new world out there boys. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:57:42 AM EST
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In 10 years, you won't be able to walk in public in any major city without having your face scanned. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 8:59:50 AM EST
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If the app is Suspect.id, it seems suspiciously vague.
A privacy policy that just links back to their homepage. “Other apps” includes one other entry for a Used Car Dealer ‘Mangment’ Software. Misspelling and all. I don’t think I’d care to install this on my phone. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:00:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You ain’t seen nothing yet. We have some amazing software and hardware right now. Things that would make locating almost anyone in a very short period of time. Also imagine being able to roll back a camera reel of your last six years worth movement and associates. It’s a brave new world out there boys. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:02:18 AM EST
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Well.....no shit!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You ain’t seen nothing yet. We have some amazing software and hardware right now. Things that would make locating almost anyone in a very short period of time. Also imagine being able to roll back a camera reel of your last six years worth movement and associates. It’s a brave new world out there boys. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:04:22 AM EST
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That reply tells me that you have no idea.... what the future holds for us. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: You ain’t seen nothing yet. We have some amazing software and hardware right now. Things that would make locating almost anyone in a very short period of time. Also imagine being able to roll back a camera reel of your last six years worth movement and associates. It’s a brave new world out there boys. But NO DOUBT there will be developments that I cannot imagine right now. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:04:53 AM EST
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And it will never be used to control political opposition and dissidents. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You ain’t seen nothing yet. We have some amazing software and hardware right now. Things that would make locating almost anyone in a very short period of time. Also imagine being able to roll back a camera reel of your last six years worth movement and associates. It’s a brave new world out there boys. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:06:47 AM EST
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I’m safe until penis recognition software becomes a thing.  
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:08:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And it will never be used to control political opposition and dissidents.  MICRO DRONES KILLER ARMS ROBOTS - AUTONOMOUS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE - WARNING !! |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:09:47 AM EST
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LE only. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what’s the app? 
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:16:59 AM EST
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Is there a restricted LE appstore with all sorts of cool shit in it that we can't see? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what’s the app?  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:23:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Take pics, gather as much info as possible, issue cites in name given, release. Seek warrants later when it is all figured out. ETA: Impound your ride, etc...since you don't have a DL |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:28:12 AM EST
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I think you explained it fairly well in the paragraph I bolded and colored in your post. But NO DOUBT there will be developments that I cannot imagine right now. Many groups in US and EU have well founded concerns about privacy issues that this type of technology brings to the table. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:29:16 AM EST
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Proliferation of facial scanning has made me wonder about picking up some small IR emitting LEDs and doing some experiments with a ballcap to see how hard it would be to blind said cameras. Hats, glasses etc. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:30:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Camera hardware has finally started to catch up to the software. Distributed computing and edge analytics will bring a world where your data (ie your life) will be monitored, analyzed and archived at almost real-time speeds. Many groups in US and EU have well founded concerns about privacy issues that this type of technology brings to the table. 
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:30:49 AM EST
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LE only. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what’s the app? |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:31:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Depends on how you define portable. They are wired into the car and laptop. Some models can be a completely separate laptop. there are handheld models out there, but very few agencies are going to drop that coin. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:32:36 AM EST
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I thought it was a dating app for cops though
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:32:49 AM EST
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Is this available for iOS so you can run the background on questionable women you encounter, before bringing them home? Asking for a friend.
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:35:42 AM EST
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Is there a restricted LE appstore with all sorts of cool shit in it that we can't see? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what’s the app? |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 9:56:24 AM EST
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No shit. What could possibly go wrong? 
ETA: I'm just here to learn what a blatantly suspicious vehicle looks like. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I sure feel safer 
ETA: I'm just here to learn what a blatantly suspicious vehicle looks like. 
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:04:09 AM EST
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Wonderful. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Camera hardware has finally started to catch up to the software. Distributed computing and edge analytics will bring a world where your data (ie your life) will be monitored, analyzed and archived at almost real-time speeds. Many groups in US and EU have well founded concerns about privacy issues that this type of technology brings to the table. Routinely you see discussions about gun registration and how that leads to confiscation. No lists has always been our stance as a group, for the most part. No lists of owners. No lists of transactions. No giant list of guns, well except those scary NFA items. Which very much would make confiscation harder. Now that we have discussed ancient history let’s talk modern world. We live in a world where companies collect and store data on everything from bearing temps to occupancy levels to how often you log into your email, FOREVER. Now with that data comes all kinds of metadata. Time place reliability origin path etc. The government of the US has been actively collecting and archiving yours mine and everyone else’s metadata for quite a while now. Think NDAA. Now using that data it wouldn’t be hard to put some analytics together and then use some additional machine learning to polish your list. And we have “how you say? A bingo”. This list would be more accurate than a list produced from any record keeping system that the Democrats could dream up. Every time some one here makes a reference to the “hive” or GD mindset or the “average” ARFCOMER I think about this very thing. It’s not just us it could also be used to produce a list of just about anything given enough time and data. EDIT TO ADD: “But, it’s ok we promise to only use it on the “bad” guys.” |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:07:14 AM EST
[#33]
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We have quite a few of the portable fingerprint scanners. I don’t recall them being very expensive and they work great. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Depends on how you define portable. They are wired into the car and laptop. Some models can be a completely separate laptop. there are handheld models out there, but very few agencies are going to drop that coin. 
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:08:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which brings up another point to be made about data privacy....A 2a point. Routinely you see discussions about gun registration and how that leads to confiscation. No lists has always been our stance as a group, for the most part. No lists of owners. No lists of transactions. No giant list of guns, well except those scary NFA items. Which very much would make confiscation harder. Now that we have discussed ancient history let’s talk modern world. We live in a world where companies collect and store data on everything from bearing temps to occupancy levels to how often you log into your email, FOREVER. Now with that data comes all kinds of metadata. Time place reliability origin path etc. The government of the US has been actively collecting and archiving yours mine and everyone else’s metadata for quite a while now. Think NDAA. Now using that data it wouldn’t be hard to put some analytics together and then use some additional machine learning to polish your list. And we have “how you say? A bingo”. This list would be more accurate than a list produced from any record keeping system that the Democrats could dream up. Every time some one here makes a reference to the “hive” or GD mindset or the “average” ARFCOMER I think about this very thing. It’s not just us it could also be used to produce a list of just about anything given enough time and data. EDIT TO ADD: “But, it’s ok we promise to only use it on the “bad” guys.” I have been saying as much, in a much more imprecise way, for MANY, MANY years. I simply cannot disagree with anything you postulate......ALL OF THAT IS VERY POSSIBLE. Some will call us tinfoilers…….they would have a point but look how quickly our intelligence agencies were usurped to carry out draconian and nefarious political activities. I say quickly because it really has not been that long since the "computer revolution" started. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:15:40 AM EST
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We used a department phone, we don't have fingerprint scanners in the field, it gave us 3 possible matches.
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:17:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you have probably cause to take his picture? Was he being detained? Did you detain him to long? Was he traveling as a boat captain and not driving a car and therefore not subject to United States law? Damn road pirates! :). Technology has done some pretty cool stuff for you guys, just another tool int he tool bag I guess. Stay safe.
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:18:13 AM EST
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Beards..... |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:19:32 AM EST
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I don't think there is ANY DOUBT that these things you suggest could come to fruition. I have been saying as much, in a much more imprecise way, for MANY, MANY years. I simply cannot disagree with anything you postulate......ALL OF THAT IS VERY POSSIBLE. Some will call us tinfoilers…….they would have a point but look how quickly our intelligence agencies were usurped to carry out draconian and nefarious political activities. I say quickly because it really has not been that long since the "computer revolution" started. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:20:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You did read the part where the driver had already broken the law, correct? Driving without proof of license is certainly probable cause for checking the identity of said driver to see if they are committing other crimes, such as driving on a suspended or revoked license, or in this case active warrants. Get your panties unbunched, OP wasn't stopping people randomly on the street and scanning their faces. I hope the OP articulated his RS/PC better in his arrest report than he did on the internet. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:21:07 AM EST
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https://media.giphy.com/media/10nMEclFWTPCp2/giphy.gif On a serious note, I'm serious about civil liberties and think a lot of shit has gone too far but a driver with no ID at a traffic stop has already broken a law. I'm ok with facial rec being run on him/her to verify identify. Now if it's used on the passengers because they don't have ID, just because they don't have ID, I'd have a problem with that. I'd also have a problem with something like mandatory fingerprinting and running prints, but using facial rec to match against warrants seems like a good compromise. OP, can you speak about what databases and sources the app pulls from? Only active warrants or all mugshots? So we took a picture of one of our officers who made the news. It found his picture. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:21:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL......he had "probably cause" when he pulled him over in the first place.
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:21:41 AM EST
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The pic it matched him with, no beard. The pic we took, he had a beard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Beards..... |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:21:50 AM EST
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It’s not could happen, sometime, in the future. It is happening, has been happening, and the analytics will only get better, daily. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think there is ANY DOUBT that these things you suggest could come to fruition. I have been saying as much, in a much more imprecise way, for MANY, MANY years. I simply cannot disagree with anything you postulate......ALL OF THAT IS VERY POSSIBLE. Some will call us tinfoilers…….they would have a point but look how quickly our intelligence agencies were usurped to carry out draconian and nefarious political activities. I say quickly because it really has not been that long since the "computer revolution" started. I would be VERY interested in someone explaining how you are wrong? |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:25:23 AM EST
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I agree ONE HUNDRED GUZILLION percent. I would be VERY interested in someone explaining how you are wrong? “You’ve got mail” |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:26:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They will be along any minute they are still waiting for their AOL to connect. “You’ve got mail”
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:27:30 AM EST
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You don't pull DL and booking pics up from your MDT? He was giving me a false name, DOB and SOC. So it was coming back with no matches. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:28:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm told it scan pictures from the internet. So we took a picture of one of our officers who made the news. It found his picture. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:28:30 AM EST
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Our first real disagreement in this thread...…..they will not be along at all......because no one really disagrees would be my guess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: They will be along any minute they are still waiting for their AOL to connect. “You’ve got mail”
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:28:59 AM EST
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What does an obviously suspicious vehicle look like? Run the plate and the plate did not match the vehicle. |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 10:30:31 AM EST
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from what i can tell it's basically a glorified google image search app. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I'm told it scan pictures from the internet. So we took a picture of one of our officers who made the news. It found his picture. |
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