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Posted: 11/7/2012 9:53:10 AM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:
What a backwards thing to do. Fucking over the American economy because of politics just makes the Chinese ROFL.

I'd rather the Chinese get to raff than give any money to a union. Fuck unions.

Posted: 11/7/2012 9:54:51 AM EDT

[#2]

the union should start building high quality cars now that their master has been re-elected....

Posted: 11/7/2012 10:00:39 AM EDT

[#3]

I can't afford a new car, and probably never will now. They'll still get my money, just via the government.

Posted: 11/7/2012 10:02:17 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
I only buy used cars. The Union can kiss my ass.

Same here. Have an Accord now, Mazda 6 before that. Wanted a K-5 Blazer to goof around in but I'll probably be going 4-runner now.

Fuck 'em one and all.

Posted: 11/7/2012 10:07:13 AM EDT

[#5]

They overproduced a few years ago, and they are on their way to doing it again.
Unlike any other product, 100% of vehicles wil be sold eventually; but who's holding the money, in the mean time, while they are on the dealer lots, and at what point are they losing money rather than making it.
When you bail people out who are doing wrong, they are never going to learn.
If they always know they have a gov't funded parachute, there is no incentive for them to change a thing.
Still overpaid UAW line workers, and overpaid salaried "white shirts" at their air-conditioned desks at GM, all bought and paid for by President Obama's borrowing of money, adding to the national debt.

Posted: 11/7/2012 10:09:23 AM EDT

[#6]

Bingo.

Quoted:

I've been screaming this shit to you rubes for years.

No UAW

No Hollywood

No concerts

No pro sports

Vote with your wallet because we sure hell can't vote ideology anymore...

Posted: 11/7/2012 10:09:59 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What a backwards thing to do. Fucking over the American economy because of politics just makes the Chinese ROFL.

Good to hear a voice of reason from WI.

What Local do you belong to?

That's a false conundrum.

It's the unions who have fucked over the American Economy; what's good for the unions is NOT good for America.

The unions whose purpose is to wipeout competition, are part and parcel of a false, parasitic, price controlling, economy and refusing to buy their products is the right thing to do.

Posted: 11/7/2012 11:00:30 AM EDT

[#8]

Lots of UAW guys , like most of the Tradesmen I worked with, voted Republican in every election. How do you think Reagan carried the state back then? But the Republicans got the bright idea to make us the enemy,calling us thugs and commies. What did you expect these guys to do then? Maybe you and your Party might gain some wisdom as you cry in the wilderness for the next four years or so, and think about trying to once again attract people with similar interests, instead of trying to make everything an "us versus them" situation.

Posted: 11/7/2012 11:07:44 AM EDT

[#9]

Buying anything UAW is suppoting the communist takeover of this cdountry. It is that simple.

Posted: 11/7/2012 3:41:13 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What a backwards thing to do. Fucking over the American economy because of politics just makes the Chinese ROFL.

I'd rather the Chinese get to raff than give any money to a union. Fuck unions.

Totally agree.

I very much would rather support the innocuous Japan, than the currently killing my country unions.

My truck was shipped over in a crate.

If enough people started doing this, and explaining why, companies would move to right to work states and the unions would wither on the vine. This could apply to lots of things beyond unions as well. And would be our most effective tool.

But, as with most things productive to those of us who love America, there are always forces who pretend to be on our side that undermine any effort that might fucking work.

Posted: 11/7/2012 3:47:38 PM EDT

[#11]

Totally agree. My next two vehicles will be a Tundra and Highlander.

Posted: 11/7/2012 3:57:34 PM EDT

[#12]

I believe you got the cart before the horse.

The union bosses "Big Union" started overtly supporting Democrats over everything else...Often over the objections and/or best interests of their members (United Mine Workers Union bosses supporting Obama in 2008 is but one example).

Note that I said "Union BOSSES, often over the objections and/or best interests of their members".

So, the attack really should have been against union bosses. Unfortunately, that is impossible for an outsider to do, so the only weapon/recourse people outside the union have is to boycott the product and/or verbally attack the union and it's members.

Until now, the majority of the people just cast aspersions towards the members. Now, based upon what I'm see here, they have seen that the only way to break the power of unions in this country is to boycott the products and put the union members out of jobs.

It is really too bad because if it weren't for the politics of the "Union bosses", I would have little to nothing against unions.

Here's a thought for you: If Democrats were truly for the working man, they would not be FOR amnesty for illegals and FOR large amounts of legal immigration...Both create excess labor in this country and cause your labor rates to fall.

Quoted:

Lots of UAW guys , like most of the Tradesmen I worked with, voted Republican in every election. How do you think Reagan carried the state back then? But the Republicans got the bright idea to make us the enemy,calling us thugs and commies. What did you expect these guys to do then? Maybe you and your Party might gain some wisdom as you cry in the wilderness for the next four years or so, and think about trying to once again attract people with similar interests, instead of trying to make everything an "us versus them" situation.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:02:03 PM EDT

[#13]

We dumped our Jeep

Bought a Nissan

FUCK UNIONS and UNION Members

and to all the union members here....thanks for Obama...your contributions helped buy Pro Obama ads

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:11:21 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
The union types were a huge part of what happened last night. Seriously, other than heavy duty pickups, there is nothing that cannot be bought elsewhere. We need to hit those pampered, overpaid bastards where it hurts!

I love the outright stupidity of this thread. Hey A**hat, 11.9% of Americans are Unionized. Thats right 11.9%. And all the Union guys I know voted Romney.So then just who did vote in the messiah? Grow up, this is way beyond unions.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:12:02 PM EDT

[#15]

Fuck the unions.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:19:44 PM EDT

[#16]

Greate boycott lists from the unions themselves

2012 UAW Union-Built Vehicle Buying List

More than just cars

Auto Parts/Tires

UAW made parts/equipment
http://www.uaw.org/products/93

IBEW made automotive parts
http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/products/index2.asp?ProductHdr=Automotive

UAW made automotive batteries
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/automobile-batteries.html

USW made tires
http://www.usw.org/media_center/news_articles?id=0409

Banking/Credit Cards/Checks

Amalgamated Bank
https://www.amalgamatedbank.com

Union Privilege Credit Cards (personalized by union)
http://www.unionplus.org/money-credit/credit-card

Bookstores/Videos/Music

UAW made Yamaha musical instruments
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/music.html

Building Materials

UAW made building/home repair products
http://www.uaw.org/products/86

UAW made plumbing products
http://www.uaw.org/products/80

Clothing/Accessories

UFCW made brands
http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/index.cfm?psc_ID=46

Cars/Trucks/Vans/RVs

UAW/CAW/IEU Buying Guide
http://www.uaw.org/cars

Electronics/Electrical

IBEW makes all kinds of electrical equipment
http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/products/index.asp

Entertainment/Sports

Live union musicians for events
http://www.gopromusic.com/

Music lessons from a union musician
http://www.goprolessons.com/

Food/Beverage/Grocery

UFCW made and packaged food/beverage/medicine/personal products/baby care and other items
http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/

UAW made consumer food products
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/food.html

Teamster food workers
http://www.teamster.org/content/food-processing-division

UAW made beer/rum/groceries
http://www.uaw.org/products/90

Fairly complete list of union made beers
http://www.unionplus.org/union-made/beers

Home/Appliances/Heat/AC

UFCW made household cleaners/products
http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/index.cfm?psc_ID=40

IBEW made Alarms & Detection Devices
http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/products/index2.asp?ProductHdr=Alarms+%26+Detection+Devices

IBEW made appliances/vacuums/humidfiers
http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/products/index2.asp?ProductHdr=Appliances+%26+Household+Products

UAW made appliances
http://www.uaw.org/products/94

UAW made home products (hvac systems, security systems, windows & doors, laders, and much more)
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/home-repair.html

UAW made housewares (lamps, drapes, embroidery, cookware products)
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/housewares.html

UAW made lawn care products
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/lawn-care.html

UAW made tools
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/tools.html

UAW heat/AC equip.
http://www.uaw.org/products/89

HVAC service
http://www.hvacexpertise.com/residential/AM/Template.cfm?Search=2§ion=login&Template=Directory/ProductSearch.cfm&TERMS=StateCountry

UAW factory built homes
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/factory-built-homes.html

Magazines/Newspapers/Printers

UAW made magazines and books
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/publications.html

Find a GCIU printer
http://www.gciu.org/ext/shop_search.asp

Medical Products

UAW made medical products (eye glasses, contacts, mail order drugs)
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/medical-items.html

Office Products

UAW made office products
http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/office-products.html

Pet

UFCW made pet food and other items
http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/index.cfm?psc_ID=43

Shoes/Boots

UFCW made brands of shoes and boots
http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/index.cfm?psc_ID=48

Sporting Goods

UAW made sporting goods
http://www.uaw.org/products/79

Tractors

UAW made tractors
http://www.uaw.org/products/95

Toys

UAW made games, puzzles, hobby kits, etc.
http://www.uaw.org/products/95

Travel/Vacation

Airlines with AFA union flight attendants
http://www.afanet.org/default.asp?id=517

Airlines with ALPA union pilots
http://www.alpa.org/Home/WhoWeAre/PilotGroups/tabid/2239/Default.aspx

Airlines with Teamster workers
http://teamsterair.org/who-we-represent

Airports
http://www.airportgroup.info/locations.html

Union hotel guide from UNITEHERE!
http://www.hotelworkersrising.org/HotelGuide/

Norwegian Cruises (discounts for union members)
http://www.unionplus.org/norwegian-cruise-lines-discounts

Wireless Phone Service

AT&T wireless (discounts for union members)
http://www.unionplus.org/cell-phone-wireless/att-wireless

Someone wanna print out the list of all those companies? I'm gettin finger cramps!

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:19:53 PM EDT

[#17]

Audi A6
I will never by another Amierican car for many reasons.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:20:44 PM EDT

[#18]

I don't buy American vehicles anymore. Period.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:20:54 PM EDT

[#19]

Subaru and Toyota

My Tacoma is a damn fine truck.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:22:08 PM EDT

[#20]

That won't hurt them; 0bama will just bail them out if they fail.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:23:55 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
The union types were a huge part of what happened last night. Seriously, other than heavy duty pickups, there is nothing that cannot be bought elsewhere. We need to hit those pampered, overpaid bastards where it hurts!

I never bought their shitbox cars in the first place. The problem is that they'll just bankrupt and re-fund via a government bailout, again, if they implode again.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:27:13 PM EDT

[#22]

all about doing away with unions.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:29:08 PM EDT

[#23]

Fun Car : Porsche 911 Carrera S
Daily Driver : Range Rover
Wife's Daily Driver: Range Rover
Motorcycle : BMW

Fuck the Unions and FBHO!

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:32:13 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
My entire family outlawed UAW cars from our garages years ago, but were starting to consider a big SUV (Tahoe, Escalade). Parents started the test drive process. Now, no more. Time to look at the Toyota Sequoia/Lexus LX.

I love my 4Runner and will NEVER consider a UAW vehicle.

Love our Sequoia

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:37:42 PM EDT

[#25]

Owned 8 vehicles in my young life. And purchased 4 vehicles with my wife (for her). My oldsmobile and Jeep were pieces of crap that had constant problems. The rest have been Infiniti, Honda and Toyota with the exception of a horrible VW purchase. The foreign cars/trucks have by far been the best investment. I drove and toyed with the idea of getting a Chevy right before the bailout. That cleared my wondering eye up real quick! I'll stick to my Toyotas and the unions can stick to sucking the Obama teat and building crap that breaks down all the time.

Funny thing is. My brother in law blasts me all the time for my vehicle purchases. In the last (I kid you not) 3 years the guy has bought a new Chevy truck (crapped out all the time), traded in for a new Ford (transmission problems and leaked oil), a Dodge Ram (has been in the shop more times than I can count) and lastly a Jeep Cherokee (looks great by the way but has been in the shop at least once for 6 of the 13 months he has owned it.)

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:39:36 PM EDT

[#26]

I came from a GM family. My mom and uncle retired after 30 years. Neither one of them could say anything good about the union.
We went and bought a Honda CR-V for the wife. I told my mother I couldn't buy a car from Government Motors. She understood.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:43:12 PM EDT

[#27]

Toyota Tundra ... non union

Toyota Avalon ... non union

Kia Optima ... non union

all made here in America by non union workers

see a trend going on here at my house? been that way for years and will continue to be for the rest of my life.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:45:44 PM EDT

[#28]

Look here for the union label.......

http://www.uaw.org/content/uaw-made-page

Link left cold.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:47:12 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
I believe you got the cart before the horse.

The union bosses "Big Union" started overtly supporting Democrats over everything else...Often over the objections and/or best interests of their members (United Mine Workers Union bosses supporting Obama in 2008 is but one example).

Note that I said "Union BOSSES, often over the objections and/or best interests of their members".

So, the attack really should have been against union bosses. Unfortunately, that is impossible for an outsider to do, so the only weapon/recourse people outside the union have is to boycott the product and/or verbally attack the union and it's members.

Until now, the majority of the people just cast aspersions towards the members. Now, based upon what I'm see here, they have seen that the only way to break the power of unions in this country is to boycott the products and put the union members out of jobs.

It is really too bad because if it weren't for the politics of the "Union bosses", I would have little to nothing against unions.

Here's a thought for you: If Democrats were truly for the working man, they would not be FOR amnesty for illegals and FOR large amounts of legal immigration...Both create excess labor in this country and cause your labor rates to fall.

Quoted:
Lots of UAW guys , like most of the Tradesmen I worked with, voted Republican in every election. How do you think Reagan carried the state back then? But the Republicans got the bright idea to make us the enemy,calling us thugs and commies. What did you expect these guys to do then? Maybe you and your Party might gain some wisdom as you cry in the wilderness for the next four years or so, and think about trying to once again attract people with similar interests, instead of trying to make everything an "us versus them" situation.

Exactly.

Union bosses are the field generals of the Free Shit Army.

Collective Bargaining is just a sanitized word for extortion.
- wants overtime pay to starts after 8 hrs of work in a day, even if you only work 1 day a week.....or we strike.
- wants minimum of 3 break periods during the day.....or we strike.
- requires 4 workers to be assigned to a job even if it only requires one.....or we strike.
- wants ALL weekends off ...or we strike
- wants double time and a half for every freakin' holiday including groundhog day....or we strike.
- wants full medical, dental, fully funded 401k , car/truck/bassboat ins ....or we strike.
- etc etc etc

Your "leaders" have done you no good. Your union dues have been used against you. They live like kings while you and your family starve to death on strike pay.

And you wonder why the public won't buy your products when the company has to raise the price so damn high to cover the cost of your free shit.

You wonder why companies say "fuck this noise" and move out-of -country to lower costs to stay competitive because your union bosses won't budge an inch on giving up your free shit.

You wonder why the customers never come back to the dealership garage for service after the warranty runs out,...because they don't want to be gouged paying for work AND your free shit.

When your Union Bosses say they are gonna "Stick it to the Man".....just remember, that Man is you.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:55:10 PM EDT

[#30]

You're preaching to the choir OP.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:55:44 PM EDT

[#31]

I buy what I need and what I like. If it fit's my expectations and budget, I could care less who built it.

Posted: 11/7/2012 4:56:24 PM EDT

[#32]

I did bought a toyota RAV4

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Posted: 11/7/2012 4:57:28 PM EDT

[#33]

I bought a new Jeep recently. I do like it, but have to say fuck the UAW. Their support no doubt threw Ohio into Obamas hands. It will be a long time before I buy another vehicle but will consider long and hard before I buy another UAW produced vehicle.

Posted: 11/7/2012 5:00:08 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
I've been screaming this shit to you rubes for years.
No UAW
No Hollywood
No concerts
No pro sports

Vote with your wallet because we sure hell can't vote ideology anymore...

Thank YOU!

+1 gazillion

Posted: 11/7/2012 5:03:30 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
I did. I said FUCK YOU and got a 2013 Nissan Altima instead of a Chevy Cruze or Ford Fusion.

I've been Chevy my entire life. My first truck was a '74 GMC. My last was a 2006 Duramax. No more GM for me. I just bought a new V6 crew cab Nissan Frontier.

Posted: 11/7/2012 5:41:28 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What a backwards thing to do. Fucking over the American economy because of politics just makes the Chinese ROFL.

Good to hear a voice of reason from WI.

What Local do you belong to?

I belong to Local 72 UAW, 41 years active and retired in Wisconsin.

Posted: 11/7/2012 5:43:09 PM EDT

[#37]

I bought a Toyota, I already have..

Posted: 11/7/2012 5:44:40 PM EDT

[#38]

Doesn't a certain firearms manufacturer have employees under a UAW contract?

Posted: 11/7/2012 5:45:42 PM EDT

[#39]

I belong to Local 72 UAW, 41 years active and retired in Wisconsin

How old were you when you retired? 52?

Posted: 11/7/2012 5:49:06 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

I belong to Local 72 UAW, 41 years active and retired in Wisconsin

How old were you when you retired? 52?

33 years active, 8 retired now. I was 55 when I retired.

Posted: 11/7/2012 5:54:16 PM EDT

[#41]

I will never buy a Chevrolet or Dodge again for the rest of my life. I previously have owned both.

Ford is still a possibility but I'm very happy with my Toyota right now.

Posted: 11/7/2012 6:20:04 PM EDT

[#42]

I make a living in the automotive market. We sell automation equipment. When plants retool it's pretty lucrative. MRO business keeps the lights on. GM, Ford, and Chrysler buy almost all local engneering and products. The foriegn plants buy MUCH less from outfits like ours....they get thier "stuff" from thier homeland(s). I buy Big 3 vehicles because it's where I make my money.

All of that said, the UAW has fucked this industry up big time. I have no sympathy for them negotiating themselves out of a job.But keep in mind, they ALWAYS voted for the Democrats. It wasn't the bailouts.

Posted: 11/7/2012 6:21:13 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The union types were a huge part of what happened last night. Seriously, other than heavy duty pickups, there is nothing that cannot be bought elsewhere. We need to hit those pampered, overpaid bastards where it hurts!

It will never happen, union workers are a protected class in this country.

Protected class....funny you mention that. Today we had a "discrimination/sexual harassment class at work. I have worked here for quite a while and this was first time today I seen mention of "protected class". The first scenario was a under skilled white man promoted over a more qualified black man....

Posted: 11/7/2012 6:22:07 PM EDT

[#44]

my VW diesel is the best car ive ever owned for value and quality balance.

Posted: 11/7/2012 6:32:56 PM EDT

[#45]

Wife is buying a Toyota soon, first non-UAW for her.

Posted: 11/7/2012 6:44:58 PM EDT

[#46]

Have not owned a domestic auto in 20 years.

Wouldn't THAT be a marketing strategy - "Look for the NON-union label".

Liberal fuktards don't buy union cars anyhow. Imagine if their entire market dried up. Not to say you couldn't buy US made. KIA, Toyota, Nissan all build better non-union cars.

Anybody want to chip in for a full page USA Today ad?

Posted: 11/7/2012 6:58:05 PM EDT

[#47]

Why would I purchase the pieces of shit that almost bankrupt them in the first place?

Posted: 11/7/2012 6:59:57 PM EDT

[#48]

Just bought my first Toyota, no more UAW in my driveway. I hope GM and Dodge both close up shop.

Posted: 11/7/2012 7:01:37 PM EDT

[#49]

Been buying Honda my entire life. Don't see any reason to change now

Posted: 11/7/2012 7:23:12 PM EDT

[#50]

I'm in michigan.. surrounded by it.... these folks live in a bubble. They live in this huge fanatasy world where they believe their mostly mundane unskilled labor is worth $50+K a year, plus another $50 in benefits...

We had a prop on the ballot to give the unions even more power, and thank god, it was defeated.

The only real way to make these folks realize what they've supported, is to make their plants close. Come to flint michigan.. and you'll see what a former UAW town looks like. One plant left.. GM trucks.

Close their plants, even then.. they'll blame everyone but themselves. Just like the dem mantra... its always someone else's fault.

The days of american pride in american made vehicles is over.... if its a union shop, I dont spend money there. Period. I might as well be buying a Lada during the cold war.

We bought Kia's. Made in tennessee by americans... non union.

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