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Posted: 11/15/2019 4:06:38 AM EST
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Mal pups fear nothing, until corrected...and then they figure out another plan to dominate the planet.
They just gotta push all the buttons. That poor GSD is in for no end of torment. Mals Rule! |
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looking at the camera like " can i do it mom, can i? alright screw it little b*tch, woof"
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I'm curious what is up with that immediate laying down, head down move the older dog did once the pup fell over. Was it being submissive or apologizing? I don't know these things. We have two pugs and they're retarded most of the time.
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It appears obvious that dog owner wants the dogs to fight, and it will happen. The GSD is quite obviously stressed and the idiot owner is just laughing.
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It appears obvious that dog owner wants the dogs to fight, and it will happen. The GSD is quite obviously stressed and the idiot owner is just laughing. View Quote Most people don't know shit about dog behavior. This video is why I keep my mouth shut when people say, "oh my dog/kid got bit by a dog and he wasn't doing anything to the dog...." These idiots probably think this puppy wasn't really doing anything either... The adult GSD is very well mannered, smart understanding. That's a game the owner needs to immediately stop! That isn't funny at all, they needed to immediately correct the pup before the adult feels it needs to correct the pup. That pup will get emboldened as it gets older and the adult doesn't see that as a game or as cute or funny. What happens when the pup is old enough that it doesn't feel it needs to back down and these two dogs work it out themselves? Will this behavior be funny then? |
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Just the pack leader teaching the younger one their place in the pack; no blood, no foul.
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Shouldn't the pack leader be the human? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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It appears obvious that dog owner wants the dogs to fight, and it will happen. The GSD is quite obviously stressed and the idiot owner is just laughing. View Quote This is an effective safe way to teach young dogs boundaries in a controlled atmosphere with an even tempered adult dog. Trainers often use adult dogs with the right temperament to teach young dogs. I was asked more than a few times to "borrow " one of my dogs for this reason. You have to know the temperament of the adult dog and not use any dog willy nilly. I highly doubt this was a game and the humans in the room wanted to see the pup savaged. You would have to be mentally handicapped to do that. It's best to teach these young pups boundaries in a controlled atmosphere. The pup got his correction with no harm. Best to teach boundaries this way than out on the street with strange dogs that won't stop at a mild correction and will actually attack the pup. Most people don't realize that for some dogs it only takes one bad experience with another dog ( as a puppy ) to turn that pup into a dog aggressive adult. Things aren't always as the seem. The owners of these to dogs did the pup a favor. |
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This! Most people don't know shit about dog behavior. OR training . This video is why I keep my mouth shut when people say, "oh my dog/kid got bit by a dog and he wasn't doing anything to the dog...." These idiots probably think this puppy wasn't really doing anything either... The adult GSD is very well mannered, smart understanding. Yes, he possess the right temperament for this exercise. That's a game the owner needs to immediately stop! That isn't funny at all, they needed to immediately correct the pup before the adult feels it needs to correct the pup. It wasn't a game. The pup was being safely trained and learned about boundaries. See, best to do it with a known adult dog with the right temperament then have it done on the street when the pup ...... who doesn't realize the potential repercussions of his actions..... pulls that shit on some dog that will just attack it without a correction. That pup will get emboldened as it gets older and the adult doesn't see that as a game or as cute or funny. This training is meant to do the exact opposite of embolden the pup. He got his correction and realized it was time to stop his horse shit. It worked out perfectly. What happens when the pup is old enough that it doesn't feel it needs to back down and these two dogs work it out themselves? Will this behavior be funny then? The training was meant to teach him the consequences of this type behavior. He wasn't emboldened he was shut down without injury. He got the point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It appears obvious that dog owner wants the dogs to fight, and it will happen. The GSD is quite obviously stressed and the idiot owner is just laughing. Most people don't know shit about dog behavior. OR training . This video is why I keep my mouth shut when people say, "oh my dog/kid got bit by a dog and he wasn't doing anything to the dog...." These idiots probably think this puppy wasn't really doing anything either... The adult GSD is very well mannered, smart understanding. Yes, he possess the right temperament for this exercise. That's a game the owner needs to immediately stop! That isn't funny at all, they needed to immediately correct the pup before the adult feels it needs to correct the pup. It wasn't a game. The pup was being safely trained and learned about boundaries. See, best to do it with a known adult dog with the right temperament then have it done on the street when the pup ...... who doesn't realize the potential repercussions of his actions..... pulls that shit on some dog that will just attack it without a correction. That pup will get emboldened as it gets older and the adult doesn't see that as a game or as cute or funny. This training is meant to do the exact opposite of embolden the pup. He got his correction and realized it was time to stop his horse shit. It worked out perfectly. What happens when the pup is old enough that it doesn't feel it needs to back down and these two dogs work it out themselves? Will this behavior be funny then? The training was meant to teach him the consequences of this type behavior. He wasn't emboldened he was shut down without injury. He got the point. |
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Quoted: This! Most people don't know shit about dog behavior. This video is why I keep my mouth shut when people say, "oh my dog/kid got bit by a dog and he wasn't doing anything to the dog...." These idiots probably think this puppy wasn't really doing anything either... View Quote |
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Things aren't always as the seem. The owners of these to dogs did the pup a favor. View Quote |
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Quoted: you are correct.. there are tons of ass hats out there that have no biz owning and dog/dogs View Quote if these things didn't happen the Mal pup would grow up to be a real menace instead of a well adjusted cool doggo. people fuck dogs up...left to their own dogs figure out the pack structure just fine |
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Just the pack leader teaching the younger one their place in the pack; no blood, no foul. View Quote |
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Quoted: This! Most people don't know shit about dog behavior. This video is why I keep my mouth shut when people say, "oh my dog/kid got bit by a dog and he wasn't doing anything to the dog...." These idiots probably think this puppy wasn't really doing anything either... The adult GSD is very well mannered, smart understanding. That's a game the owner needs to immediately stop! That isn't funny at all, they needed to immediately correct the pup before the adult feels it needs to correct the pup. That pup will get emboldened as it gets older and the adult doesn't see that as a game or as cute or funny. What happens when the pup is old enough that it doesn't feel it needs to back down and these two dogs work it out themselves? Will this behavior be funny then? View Quote |
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Quoted: I really doubt that. This is an effective safe way to teach young dogs boundaries in a controlled atmosphere with an even tempered adult dog. Trainers often use adult dogs with the right temperament to teach young dogs. I was asked more than a few times to "borrow " one of my dogs for this reason. You have to know the temperament of the adult dog and not use any dog willy nilly. I highly doubt this was a game and the humans in the room wanted to see the pup savaged. You would have to be mentally handicapped to do that. It's best to teach these young pups boundaries in a controlled atmosphere. The pup got his correction with no harm. Best to teach boundaries this way than out on the street with strange dogs that won't stop at a mild correction and will actually attack the pup. Most people don't realize that for some dogs it only takes one bad experience with another dog ( as a puppy ) to turn that pup into a dog aggressive adult. Things aren't always as the seem. The owners of these to dogs did the pup a favor. View Quote |
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My 4 year old male Border Collie is like the GSD. My 2 year old female Border Collie is like the Mal.
She torments him even though he is much larger. She just came out of heat. During heat, she really chews up his muzzle. She won't give it up. I just purchased a muzzle for her next heat. |
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I'm curious what is up with that immediate laying down, head down move the older dog did once the pup fell over. Was it being submissive or apologizing? I don't know these things. We have two pugs and they're retarded most of the time. View Quote |
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When you have pups mixed in with other dogs, it's amusing to watch them. For a while they whole pack tolerates their puppy antics. They roll around on the big dogs, pull on their tails, and ears. The big dogs mostly tolerate it. They even tolerate them not eating in order, and standing in the food bowl to eat. Then one day, it's like a switch is closed. It's time for some manners to be taught. You hear the growl, and woof, then the yipe, yipe, yipe as it heads over to mom. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just the pack leader teaching the younger one their place in the pack; no blood, no foul. I have seen this type of behavior with my own dogs as new pups were brought into the pack. At the puppy stage the adult dogs know it is a puppy and tolerate their antics to a point but there are "corrections" that are given by a snarl, or growl, or if things persist a nip to the hindquarters. All of my dogs regard me as the pack leader but the puppies have these types of interactions with all of the other dogs as they figure out where they fit in the "org chart". Once that is settled, everybody is happy. |
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I feel like the type of owner to sit there and record this interaction so they can get views on YT instead of correcting the mal is not the type of owner to have a mal
edit see my other post below for explanation lol |
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Quoted: When you have pups mixed in with other dogs, it's amusing to watch them. For a while they whole pack tolerates their puppy antics. They roll around on the big dogs, pull on their tails, and ears. The big dogs mostly tolerate it. They even tolerate them not eating in order, and standing in the food bowl to eat. Then one day, it's like a switch is closed. It's time for some manners to be taught. You hear the growl, and woof, then the yipe, yipe, yipe as it heads over to mom. View Quote Christopher Walken The Lion Speech |
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I feel like the type of owner to sit there and record this interaction so they can get views on YT instead of correcting the mal is not the type of owner to have a mal View Quote if the pup persisted the response would get more aggressive...as it should. It's all part of the process of establishing and maintaining the pack hierarchy. It's also why the gsd got submissive immediately...because the gsd isn't top dog in the pack...camera person was. |
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I feel like the type of owner to sit there and record this interaction so they can get views on YT instead of correcting the mal is not the type of owner to have a mal View Quote Canines have to learn to interact with other canines at one point or another. There may come a time when the owner is not immediately available ( within seconds ) to tell the pup what to do. Things can happen very quickly in the canine world. Best that the pup learn how to interact with other canines in a safe controlled setting with a known quantity adult dog. Not teaching the pup / not letting the pup interact with other canines and learn what it needs to know would stunt the pups social growth. Sometimes the only way for a pup to learn an important lesson is to let them have at it. Safely. ETA: Canines ARE sooner or later going to interact with other canines. If a human always steps in, their education is stunted.... sometimes with disastrous results. It is wise for a pup to learn that there are other canines out there that will hurt them if they engage in certain types if behavior . |
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I felt sorry for the GSD. He's like me and peoples kids when they latch on to you and bug you, I think "Yeah, you're cute, now go away. Seriously, go away. Go. Away. Grrrrrrrrrr...."
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Quoted: Dogs do bite people without provocation. I had a Dutch Shepherd that was being kept as a pet attack me. It seemed like it was coming up to sniff me and just went apeshit on me. Tore my $300 jeans and left a four inch bruise where it bit from the pressure. No puncture because my phone stopped the teeth. View Quote |
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Quoted: AND the pup would have missed out on a very important lesson. Canines have to learn to interact with other canines at one point or another. There may come a time when the owner is not immediately available ( within seconds ) to tell the pup what to do. Things can happen very quickly in the canine world. Best that the pup learn how to interact with other canines in a safe controlled setting with a known quantity adult dog. Not teaching the pup / not letting the pup interact with other canines and learn what it needs to know would stunt the pups social growth. Sometimes the only way for a pup to learn an important lesson is to let them have at it. Safely. ETA: Canines ARE sooner or later going to interact with other canines. If a human always steps in, their education is stunted.... sometimes with disastrous results. It is wise for a pup to learn that there are other canines out there that will hurt them if they engage in certain types if behavior . View Quote A correction to the pup and/or letting the GSD know it did fine is all I'm saying. Confirmation from the one in charge that the interaction was fine, versus them just staring at it through their phone screen and laughing to the other person. |
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I'm curious what is up with that immediate laying down, head down move the older dog did once the pup fell over. Was it being submissive or apologizing? I don't know these things. We have two pugs and they're retarded most of the time. View Quote TC |
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poor older dog was watching his owners pleading in his eyes for them to make the correction which they should have... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Older pup teaching the younger pup some social skills. My Aussie will correct misbehaving dogs if he thinks they’re not getting it. |
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