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Posted: 8/4/2021 9:49:36 PM EDT
LOL

Marine Brig. Gen. A.T. Williamson, director of Marine Corps manpower plans and policy division, echoed Nowell's comments, noting that removing photos may have disadvantaged the board's ability to promote diversity in the top ranks.

The Corps eliminated required photographs from the promotion process in September 2020 and in June extended that policy to most tattoo photos, which the Corps has required since 2015.

Williamson said the Corps is continuing to collect data from the most recent board season, but early indicators show that eliminating the photograph requirement has decreased diversity in the promotion system.
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Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:53:25 PM EDT
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Marine Brig. Gen. A.T. Williamson, director of Marine Corps manpower plans and policy division, echoed Nowell's comments, noting that removing photos may have disadvantaged the board's ability to promote diversity in the top ranks.

The Corps eliminated required photographs from the promotion process in September 2020 and in June extended that policy to most tattoo photos, which the Corps has required since 2015.

Williamson said the Corps is continuing to collect data from the most recent board season, but early indicators show that eliminating the photograph requirement has decreased diversity in the promotion system.
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Well there's something NOBODY saw coming (Sarcasm). So what's next on the wheel of good ideas?
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:53:53 PM EDT
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Oh for fuck's sake!
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:54:13 PM EDT
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Photos, so they can identify and promote more minorities.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:54:28 PM EDT
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the chicoms and ruskies are laughing their asses off
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:54:44 PM EDT
[#5]
That is incredibly funny
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:54:49 PM EDT
[#6]
They remove the photo because they assume the promotion boards are racist and making recommendations based on race.

They prove non white candidates are objectively less qualified...
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:54:53 PM EDT
[#7]
This is really funny.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:55:14 PM EDT
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“It’s a meritocracy, we’re only going to pick the best of the best, but we’re very clear with our language ...that we want them to consider diversity across all areas. Right?” Nowell said. “And therefore ... I think having a clear picture on this just makes it easier. So actually our data show that it would support adding photos back in.”




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Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:55:58 PM EDT
[#9]
It’s almost as if this is a negative hypothesis?
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:56:14 PM EDT
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“Oh fuck, we didn’t mean to do it by merit.”
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:57:28 PM EDT
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Similar to standardized testing in college. They were originally instituted to take the social/"good old boys club" component out of college admissions, now they're racist because Asians and Jews dominate.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:57:31 PM EDT
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Well did THAT go the way you expected????

It warms the cockles of my cold black heart to know that all they did was prove that “diversity” quotas are just another form of racism
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:57:39 PM EDT
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LOL exactly

Its pretty disheartening though
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:57:51 PM EDT
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No it isn't and everyone knows it isn't.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:58:51 PM EDT
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Racial diversity can be the only diversity. Diversity of ideas and skill sets can only come from racial diversity. Interesting thought process.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 9:59:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:01:20 PM EDT
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So since I got out 35 years ago the officer corps is still a bunch of douche bags?


Whoodathinkit?
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:03:30 PM EDT
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Does this mean Marines will get spray tans before official photos are taken now?
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:04:15 PM EDT
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It’s a meritocracy, we’re only going to pick the best of the best, but we’re very clear with our language ...that we want them to consider diversity across all areas. Right?” Nowell said. “And therefore ... I think having a clear picture on this just makes it easier. So actually our data show that it would support adding photos back in.”




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How the fuck can red and blue both be true
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:06:00 PM EDT
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“It’s a meritocracy, we’re only going to pick the best of the best, but we’re very clear with our language ...that we want them to consider diversity across all areas. Right?” Nowell said. “And therefore ... I think having a clear picture on this just makes it easier. So actually our data show that it would support adding photos back in.”




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It's a cheerocracy now
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:06:02 PM EDT
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They remove the photo because they assume the promotion boards are racist and making recommendations based on race.

They prove non white candidates are objectively less qualified...
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Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:08:15 PM EDT
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Damn.....
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:08:40 PM EDT
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How the fuck can red and blue both be true
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It’s a meritocracy, we’re only going to pick the best of the best, but we’re very clear with our language ...that we want them to consider diversity across all areas. Right?” Nowell said. “And therefore ... I think having a clear picture on this just makes it easier. So actually our data show that it would support adding photos back in.”




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How the fuck can red and blue both be true

It's easy if you understand that Orwell was about 40 years late and doublethink is real.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:10:52 PM EDT
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Lol
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:12:29 PM EDT
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So give each candidate a number. No name no photo, only quals.  

Easy.  May the best man win.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:13:27 PM EDT
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It's easy if you understand that Orwell was about 40 years late and doublethink is real.
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It’s a meritocracy, we’re only going to pick the best of the best, but we’re very clear with our language ...that we want them to consider diversity across all areas. Right?” Nowell said. “And therefore ... I think having a clear picture on this just makes it easier. So actually our data show that it would support adding photos back in.”




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How the fuck can red and blue both be true

It's easy if you understand that Orwell was about 40 years late and doublethink is real.




Yep, Orwell, Rand, etc. knew how it was going to go, they just didn't get the timeline right.

We were warned long ago.

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Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:15:09 PM EDT
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They remove the photo because they assume the promotion boards are racist and making recommendations based on race.

They prove non white candidates are objectively less qualified...
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Yep, and anyone who spent any time on AD in any branch of the service could have predicted both of these
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:15:18 PM EDT
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Damn wipepo
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:15:18 PM EDT
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So many people here call that shit!

Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:15:39 PM EDT
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Cry more marines
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:15:44 PM EDT
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“Oh fuck, we didn’t mean to do it by merit.”
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Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:17:19 PM EDT
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Racial diversity can be the only diversity. Diversity of ideas and skill sets can only come from racial diversity. Interesting thought process.
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Which is itself racist.  

Amazingly, not all white people come from wealthy middle-class homes, and not all black people grew up in the ghetto. This somehow is beyond the grasp of those pushing diversity.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:18:05 PM EDT
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Well there you go.  No photos is racist.  Wait photos are racist.  Wait I’m confused now.  How about we remove names next to see if that works.  Just retired after 30 years of service and having sat on those promotions boards myself it it sweet justice to watch this play out and blow up in their face.  Sec of the Navy got played.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:18:31 PM EDT
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LOL....So I guess they need to go with name clues now so the next Avondré that comes up is a shoe-in.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:20:15 PM EDT
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They remove the photo because they assume the promotion boards are racist and making recommendations based on race.

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That isn't necessarily true

Diverse doesn't mean it's relative to population anymore. If 20% of America was black, but they only saw 1 in 5 black people promoted, it would probably be called racist.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:21:24 PM EDT
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What gets me is that either:

A. USMC leadership was somehow suckered into doing this without realizing the implications which means they are, all rhetoric aside, too stupid to be entrusted with leading Marines

or

B. Did this on purpose as some really high level trolling
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:21:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:21:34 PM EDT
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That's both hilarious AND makes me sad;  how far the Marine Corps devolved from what it was when I joined in 1990 to what it came to when I retired last year.

And how far it has yet to go...

Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:22:09 PM EDT
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Well did THAT go the way you expected????

It warms the cockles of my cold black heart to know that all they did was prove that “diversity” quotas are just another form of racism
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It’s a bingo
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:23:18 PM EDT
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Lol!!!!
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:24:14 PM EDT
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Funny
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:24:21 PM EDT
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I prefer the Wheel of Fish to the Wheel of Good Ideas/Intentions.

Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:25:52 PM EDT
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Lol
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:27:17 PM EDT
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Promotions based on merit, LOL.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:27:46 PM EDT
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So a meritocracy is racist?
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:35:45 PM EDT
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*laughs in DD-214*
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:38:02 PM EDT
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So a meritocracy is racist?
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Disparate impact.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:40:22 PM EDT
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Yep, and anyone who spent any time on AD in any branch of the service could have predicted both of these
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They remove the photo because they assume the promotion boards are racist and making recommendations based on race.

They prove non white candidates are objectively less qualified...

Yep, and anyone who spent any time on AD in any branch of the service could have predicted both of these

The funny thing is, the only thing the promotion boards actually use the photo for is a fat body check.

They don't give a shit about the race of the candidate.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:43:37 PM EDT
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That isn't necessarily true

Diverse doesn't mean it's relative to population anymore. If 20% of America was black, but they only saw 1 in 5 black people promoted, it would probably be called racist.
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In practice obviously, but not according to their own language and precepts.

They've required a minority and a woman on Officer promotion boards for decades.

Sounds like pandering to me.  Especially when they can get a two-for-one and get a minority woman assigned to the board.
Link Posted: 8/4/2021 10:47:01 PM EDT
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This is great news for the Marines and taxpayers. It is bad news for the people who want quota hiring
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