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Posted: 10/19/2022 10:58:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Primary is the time to "pick Your Team". Once that is over & the Game starts (election) - You back your team all the way through. Bigger_Hammer  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The primary is the time to pick your candidate. Once November rolls around if you are not voting for the candidate with an (R) you might as well be voting for Pelosi and Schumer themselves. Don't enable Commies. This. Primary is the time to "pick Your Team". Once that is over & the Game starts (election) - You back your team all the way through. Bigger_Hammer Some of us got kicked off the 'team' a long time ago. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 10:59:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except reality is the exact opposite of what he posted. The N_Ts of GD are saying they won't vote for Trump backed candidates in the general election that "fail their purity test".  The Republicans can never unite after the primaries like the dims do.  Believe it or not, Trump’s endorsements are pretty irrelevant one way or the other. As for Trump himself though, you are correct. Many will never vote for him again, even if he is the nominee. Including me. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:10:46 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because I don’t want Democrats to be in office. This is a binary choice. Why do I feel like on debating an 8 yer old kid? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you don't want more socialism or gun control, why do you support the incumbent Republicans?  Because I don’t want Democrats to be in office. This is a binary choice. Why do I feel like on debating an 8 yer old kid? Who's being childish here? Voting AGAINST someone just because of their 'team' is just as monumentally stupid as voting FOR someone because of their 'team'. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:11:45 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every election is the most important ever. And ever election we have to hold our nose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Republicans should stop being worthless, spineless fucks. If they tried that, they might get people To vote for them enthusiastically instead of reluctantly. This election is about control of the Senate. How can you not understand that? Every election is the most important ever. And ever election we have to hold our nose. That is reality. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:13:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A proven disloyal RINO backstabber should get no vote from anyone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. Yep. McConnell, Romney, Kinshaw, Crenshaw and that twat Kinzinger and all the R’s that voted to impeach, made me a registered Independent. I’ll never vote for a Liberal, but don’t assume I’ll vote for some RINO. A proven disloyal RINO backstabber should get no vote from anyone. They should be identified and weeded out. That is a far cry from the voting is useless and all Republicans suck argument made by many here. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:16:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please don't ignore my questions. Over the last 20 years, how many bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? What have they accomplished over the last two decades? Over that same period of time, how many rights have we lost while the Republicans were in control? Let's also take a look at who the Republicans tried to force on us in the 2008 & 2012 presidential elections. Do you feel that McCain and Romney were the best candidates that the Republican party had to offer, and that they truly represented the will of their constituents? Remember when the Republican party backed Murkowski even after she lost the primary in 2010? Remember how fervently the Republican party opposed Trump during the 2016 primary? With friends like the Republican party, who needs enemies?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Over the last 20 years, what bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? Over the last 20 years, how many rights have we lost at the hands of the Republicans? Why should we be content with the Republicans sitting on their laurels and expecting the Supreme Court to fix all of their mistakes? Why are you content with Republicans that refuse to do their jobs? The alternative is Democrats advancing socialism and gun control. Why can’t you comprehend this? Please don't ignore my questions. Over the last 20 years, how many bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? What have they accomplished over the last two decades? Over that same period of time, how many rights have we lost while the Republicans were in control? Let's also take a look at who the Republicans tried to force on us in the 2008 & 2012 presidential elections. Do you feel that McCain and Romney were the best candidates that the Republican party had to offer, and that they truly represented the will of their constituents? Remember when the Republican party backed Murkowski even after she lost the primary in 2010? Remember how fervently the Republican party opposed Trump during the 2016 primary? With friends like the Republican party, who needs enemies? If you are holding out for a federal law you will be disappointed. We have made great progress across the states and courts with Republicans though. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:17:31 AM EDT
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The Republican Loyalists (here & I.R.L.) will go to the polls, hold their nose & vote for even the Wackiest Trump Candidates - doing as their duty as "Republicans".
However those Trump Candidates are often not strong as General Election Candidates - to win in a General Election a Candidate must pull over the Middle (that is how Trump narrowly won in 2016 & narrowly lost 2020) The Middle makes the Decision & that Decides General Elections. This year should be an easy "cake walk" with the Economy in Shambles & the usual dynamics of being a mid term - for the Republicans to sweep both the House & Senate. But anger over the Abortion issue with women voters blaming the Republicans (50% of the population) & Trump personally injecting himself into many local races - making it "about him & 2020" - have made for a MUCH tighter race than a typical midterm should be. I sincerely hope Republicans can win the House & Senate this year. I've voted from Republicans every single election every single position since 1980. As much as I dislike Trump (the Man & Politician) I'd still hold my nose & vote for him a third time as a Republican if it came to that in 2024 Vs. wasting a vote on a 3rd party or voting... for ...  a ... Democratic  .Bigger_Hammer @FMJ3 |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:18:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who's being childish here? Voting AGAINST someone just because of their 'team' is just as monumentally stupid as voting FOR someone because of their 'team'. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you don't want more socialism or gun control, why do you support the incumbent Republicans? Because I don’t want Democrats to be in office. This is a binary choice. Why do I feel like on debating an 8 yer old kid? Who's being childish here? Voting AGAINST someone just because of their 'team' is just as monumentally stupid as voting FOR someone because of their 'team'. No, it is perfectly logical. Vote against the worst team. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:21:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This - if you can’t hold your nose for a Republican, then at least vote third-party, to show people that it matters. Otherwise your opinions are meaningless, since you can’t be bothered to do even the simplest thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. But vote, so that the numbers matter. Even if it's not for an R, just so long as it's not for a D. Make the R's realize that they're missing votes, and maybe they will GAF again. This - if you can’t hold your nose for a Republican, then at least vote third-party, to show people that it matters. Otherwise your opinions are meaningless, since you can’t be bothered to do even the simplest thing. But then they slap your peepee for stealing votes from the R, there is no pleasing these people. You might as well just let them vote for you... |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:31:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it is perfectly logical. Vote against the worst team. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you don't want more socialism or gun control, why do you support the incumbent Republicans? Because I don’t want Democrats to be in office. This is a binary choice. Why do I feel like on debating an 8 yer old kid? Who's being childish here? Voting AGAINST someone just because of their 'team' is just as monumentally stupid as voting FOR someone because of their 'team'. No, it is perfectly logical. Vote against the worst team. Then I have the PERFECT hypothetical for you — Do you root for the Cleveland Browns or the Detroit Lions? |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:35:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then I have the PERFECT hypothetical for you — Do you root for the Cleveland Browns or the Detroit Lions? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you don't want more socialism or gun control, why do you support the incumbent Republicans? Because I don’t want Democrats to be in office. This is a binary choice. Why do I feel like on debating an 8 yer old kid? Who's being childish here? Voting AGAINST someone just because of their 'team' is just as monumentally stupid as voting FOR someone because of their 'team'. No, it is perfectly logical. Vote against the worst team. Then I have the PERFECT hypothetical for you — Do you root for the Cleveland Browns or the Detroit Lions? Neither has any impact on my life, government certainly does. I can’t tune out government. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 12:00:07 PM EDT
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The election results are rigged for sure from this point on no matter how you vote.
It’s just easier for the liberal racist socialist party to cheat with the mail in option. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 12:02:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither has any impact on my life, government certainly does. I can’t tune out government. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you don't want more socialism or gun control, why do you support the incumbent Republicans? Because I don’t want Democrats to be in office. This is a binary choice. Why do I feel like on debating an 8 yer old kid? Who's being childish here? Voting AGAINST someone just because of their 'team' is just as monumentally stupid as voting FOR someone because of their 'team'. No, it is perfectly logical. Vote against the worst team. Then I have the PERFECT hypothetical for you — Do you root for the Cleveland Browns or the Detroit Lions? Neither has any impact on my life, government certainly does. I can’t tune out government. You answered exactly how I thought you would. They both suck, neither effects me any more than the other and neither stands for my beliefs. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 12:03:41 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who's being childish here? Voting AGAINST someone just because of their 'team' is just as monumentally stupid as voting FOR someone because of their 'team'. You just possibly cant think long term and not be short sighted. Who is being childish? |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 12:07:24 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You answered exactly how I thought you would. They both suck, neither effects me any more than the other and neither stands for my beliefs. So you are OK with 5 dollar a gallon gas and your 401k going to shit? |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 1:27:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “Getting it over with” LoL - like people who can’t be bothered to even vote are going to actually show up for the party. I doubt. And just like justice delayed is justice denied, loss of freedom delayed is… still freedom… I have been voting since 1976. At this point, seeing how things have gone, voting really isn't a solution. Everyone in the beltway lives a different reality than we do. Seems it doesn't take long to assimilate either. You play the game, or you go home. Everyone leaves a millionaire, some much much more. They say what you want to hear, and do what they want. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 1:31:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They should be identified and weeded out. That is a far cry from the voting is useless and all Republicans suck argument made by many here. Sometimes, the only way to remove them, is to not vote for them twice. Once in the primary, and second in the election. I have had trouble "holding my nose" for decades and all it has done is lead us to where we are. Time for a different method. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 1:46:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It got us the majority on the Supreme court which gave us Bruen victory. Among others. Control of the chamber is a big deal. It also prevents bad bills like an AWB from being able to get a vote. Yep, the ONLY reason that there isn't a nationwide confiscatory AWB ban in effect right now, is because the GOP held control of the House in 2012 when Sandy Hook happened. The media went into a full court press to try to push the GOP to bringing a AWB to the floor, and the leadership ignored them. Control is vitally important. Had the Democrats had a trifecta back then like they do now, they absolutely would have gutted the filibuster and pushed through a NY style outright ban. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 1:55:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You just possibly cant think long term and not be short sighted. Who is being childish? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who's being childish here? Voting AGAINST someone just because of their 'team' is just as monumentally stupid as voting FOR someone because of their 'team'. You just possibly cant think long term and not be short sighted. Who is being childish? Are you a boomer or gen z? |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:18:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you a boomer or gen z? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Who's being childish here? Voting AGAINST someone just because of their 'team' is just as monumentally stupid as voting FOR someone because of their 'team'. You just possibly cant think long term and not be short sighted. Who is being childish? Are you a boomer or gen z? He's a boomer, they all think their opinions matter... |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:19:39 PM EDT
[#21]
Conservatives, independents and yes, even you RINO's, we are inches away from a veto proof Red team Congress. Now is not the time to hold grudges and sulk off to your bunk with a picture of Nancy Pelosi tucked under your pillow. You too can be a hero. Vote for the Red team this November. Let's change the direction America is going. Go Red team go !!
(brought to you by team Red) kwg |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:20:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ... Over the last 20 years, how many bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? What have they accomplished over the last two decades? ... In my state alone, in that time frame, laws were passed to change CCW from shall issue to must issue; open carry was codified (it had long been a gray area here); the state prohibition on SBRs and SBSs was removed; our "stand your ground" law was clarified/strengthened; and, just this year, Constitutional Carry was passed and enacted. Similar efforts occurred in many other states during this time. In every case the primary drafters, supporters, and champions of these efforts were Republicans. (A few individual Democrats may have voted for these elsewhere... here, they fought every one tooth & nail.) |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:30:10 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Conservatives, independents and yes, even you RINO's, we are inches away from a veto proof Red team Congress. Now is not the time to hold grudges and sulk off to your bunk with a picture of Nancy Pelosi tucked under your pillow. You too can be a hero. Vote for the Red team this November. Let's change the direction America is going. Go Red team go !! (brought to you by team Red) kwg It's like picking sides in the impending race wars... |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:36:45 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. Word! |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:40:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Truth Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. Truth Agreed. The only influence I have is my vote. If I just give it to any Republican for fear of how bad the Democrats will be then I basically lose my influence. At that point the GOP can be like "yeah, we're going to ban assault weapons, but just their sale and no confiscate so we're not as "bad" as the Democrats who want to ban and confiscate existing one." Nope, I'm not going to accept half assed support for liberty. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:52:11 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Republicans should stop being worthless, spineless fucks. If they tried that, they might get people To vote for them enthusiastically instead of reluctantly. +1000 |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:54:23 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. The only influence I have is my vote. If I just give it to any Republican for fear of how bad the Democrats will be then I basically lose my influence. At that point the GOP can be like "yeah, we're going to ban assault weapons, but just their sale and no confiscate so we're not as "bad" as the Democrats who want to ban and confiscate existing one." Nope, I'm not going to accept half assed support for liberty. Total fucking horseshit. That scenario exists .in your mind only |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 3:38:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. The only influence I have is my vote. If I just give it to any Republican for fear of how bad the Democrats will be then I basically lose my influence. At that point the GOP can be like "yeah, we're going to ban assault weapons, but just their sale and no confiscate so we're not as "bad" as the Democrats who want to ban and confiscate existing one." Nope, I'm not going to accept half assed support for liberty. When was the last time an AWB happened (state or fed) when repubs were in majority? I dont know of a time but I'd be happy to know. In 1994 dems held majority in both houses BTW |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 3:52:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Total fucking horseshit. That scenario exists .in your mind only Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Agreed. The only influence I have is my vote. If I just give it to any Republican for fear of how bad the Democrats will be then I basically lose my influence. At that point the GOP can be like "yeah, we're going to ban assault weapons, but just their sale and no confiscate so we're not as "bad" as the Democrats who want to ban and confiscate existing one." Nope, I'm not going to accept half assed support for liberty. Total fucking horseshit. That scenario exists .in your mind only That's certainly the best way to influence people... |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 5:34:14 PM EDT
[#30]
This thread brought to you by the Lincoln Project, The National Review and principled conservatives everywhere.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 5:37:46 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As for Trump himself though, you are correct. Many will never vote for him again, even if he is the nominee. Including me. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 5:39:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. This all day. I will not vote for trump again. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 5:45:48 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This election is about control of the Senate. How can you not understand that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Republicans should stop being worthless, spineless fucks. If they tried that, they might get people To vote for them enthusiastically instead of reluctantly. This election is about control of the Senate. How can you not understand that? Every election is about control of the Senate or the House or the White House or SCOTUS appointees... the same bullshit gets said literally every election cycle, oMg gUyZZZ! mOsT iMpOrTaNt eLeCtIoN eVaaaaaa!!!! cHeSs nOt cHeCkErS gUyZZZ iM sUpEr sErIoUs!!11!1!!!! |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 5:51:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does everyone realize that if the Republicans were in control of both houses there would be no 6 Jan probe? yEaH gAiiizzzz nO J6 pRoBeZ Ted Cruz: hold my beer...  Ted Cruz: Jan. 6 Rioters Who Assaulted Police 'Should Go To Jail For A Very Long Time' |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 5:54:07 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yEaH gAiiizzzz nO J6 pRoBeZ Ted Cruz: hold my beer...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ew4OYcjkP8Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does everyone realize that if the Republicans were in control of both houses there would be no 6 Jan probe? yEaH gAiiizzzz nO J6 pRoBeZ Ted Cruz: hold my beer... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ew4OYcjkP8Yeah, and this bucket of turds is supposed to be one of the good ones... barf |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 6:08:14 PM EDT
[#36]
According to the OP we should blindly vote for people like:
John McCain Eye Patch McCain Liz Chenney Mitt Romney And the rest of the liberal slim just because they have an (R) next to their name |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 6:17:36 PM EDT
[#37]
Some day the establishment, country club rino types (and all their jock sniffing supporters) who've had control of the GOP for the last 40 years will realize those days are over. Some day.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 6:20:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We “controlled” the senate with people like McCain. How did that work out for us? Great. See NYSRPA v. Bruen. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 6:49:57 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: According to the OP we should blindly vote for people like: John McCain Eye Patch McCain Liz Chenney Mitt Romney And the rest of the liberal slim just because they have an (R) next to their name |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 6:54:43 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great. See NYSRPA v. Bruen. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We “controlled” the senate with people like McCain. How did that work out for us? Great. See NYSRPA v. Bruen. Something that has literally nothing to do with that anti-gun piece of shit. He's rolling in his grave https://www.gunowners.org/john-mccains-gun-control-problem/ |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 6:55:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: in a primary no. In a general election? Absofuckinglutely. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: According to the OP we should blindly vote for people like: John McCain Eye Patch McCain Liz Chenney Mitt Romney And the rest of the liberal slim just because they have an (R) next to their name Not a single one I would vote for in the primary or general and I'd make a point to vote 3rd party |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 7:08:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Paul Ryan (R Wis) was a total failure as speaker of the house.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 7:31:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you are OK having a leftist scum being elected? Because that is the alternative. It’s no worse than electing a republican scum like Romney. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 7:33:29 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does everyone realize that if the Republicans were in control of both houses there would be no 6 Jan probe? What are you, 12? |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 7:35:16 PM EDT
[#45]
Fuck the D’s and fuck the R’s.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 7:38:36 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck the D’s and fuck the R’s. 
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Posted: 10/19/2022 8:18:14 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What are you, 12? The committee was created by a House vote. It followed party lines. Do you have any other words of brilliance? |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 10:33:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The committee was created by a House vote. It followed party lines. Do you have any other words of brilliance? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What are you, 12? The committee was created by a House vote. It followed party lines. Do you have any other words of brilliance? Just conveniently didn't respond to my post with Ted Cruz calling everyone a terrorist? Perhaps you share his views. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:17:47 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: in a primary no. In a general election? Absofuckinglutely. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: According to the OP we should blindly vote for people like: John McCain Eye Patch McCain Liz Chenney Mitt Romney And the rest of the liberal slim just because they have an (R) next to their name  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 3:19:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just conveniently didn't respond to my post with Ted Cruz calling everyone a terrorist? Perhaps you share his views. Please explain how the opinion of a Senator has to do with a vote in the House. |
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