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Quoted: I think DOD initially rejected this one from Korea but i think it’s now authorized so who knows maybe Cold War could someday https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_1017_jpeg-3161033.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: I think DOD initially rejected this one from Korea but i think it’s now authorized so who knows maybe Cold War could someday https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_1017_jpeg-3161033.JPG What's that one called? Anyone can get a KDSM, I thought. @CarmelBytheSea Quoted: Quoted: That’s so fucking cringe. Participation medal you get after graduating basic. Whoa slow down stacking bodies bro save some for the rest of us. CIB or a CAR? I’ll allow it. +1 +2 |
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0/10 would not wear. If thats your thing cool but my military service is not my identity.
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Quoted: I talk about my experience but it was a long time ago and I identify as a Grandfather and duck guide. View Quote I identify as a shitposter and video game nerd. My family likes the award stuff, so I keep my uniforms in pristine shape in case they want to do something with them later. |
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Quoted: Even the Army's CAB. If you're a clerk and you have a gunfight with the Taliban, I'm down with that shit. View Quote Oh 100%…there’s plenty of CABs during AFG/Iraq that were pretty legit getting into gun fights and blown the fuck up. There’s also a shit ton that were given as freebies when a fuckin rocket or mortar landed like a klick away and the fobbits had to spill their green beans running for a bunker and would get a CAB. I’ve heard stories about some dudes getting FreeIBs (CIBs without getting into actual combat but I’ve never directly seen it I any unit I served with…they followed the wording to the letter you had to “ actively close with and destroy the enemy with direct fires”. CMB deserves a mention too…Docs need love. |
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Hey, as a United States Marine enlisted man, it is really hard to complete three years of undetected crime!
I made Sgt. in just over two years (I was really good at doing things Marines do); because I didn’t have a Good Conduct medal, everyone thought I was a shit bird. |
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Quoted: Oh 100%…there’s plenty of CABs during AFG/Iraq that were pretty legit getting into gun fights and blown the fuck up. There’s also a shit ton that were given as freebies when a fuckin rocket or mortar landed like a klick away and the fobbits had to spill their green beans running for a bunker and would get a CAB. I’ve heard stories about some dudes getting FreeIBs (CIBs without getting into actual combat but I’ve never directly seen it I any unit I served with…they followed the wording to the letter you had to “ actively close with and destroy the enemy with direct fires”. CMB deserves a mention too…Docs need love. View Quote I know one guy who got his CIB that way. Pressure plate IED went off damaging the Hummer he was driving (1SG's truck). No other enemy contact. It was back when people were getting them for IEDs when they were added as criteria for initiating contact and they were getting confused as the only needed element instead of IEDs being the initiation of a TIC (2009). |
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Quoted: Oh 100%…there’s plenty of CABs during AFG/Iraq that were pretty legit getting into gun fights and blown the fuck up. There’s also a shit ton that were given as freebies when a fuckin rocket or mortar landed like a klick away and the fobbits had to spill their green beans running for a bunker and would get a CAB. I’ve heard stories about some dudes getting FreeIBs (CIBs without getting into actual combat but I’ve never directly seen it I any unit I served with…they followed the wording to the letter you had to “ actively close with and destroy the enemy with direct fires”. CMB deserves a mention too…Docs need love. View Quote People always slip through the cracks. My assertion is that, #1 They all volunteered. #2 they went when called and didn't try to get out it. #3 Most of them did what was asked. I'll give an example. A group of (insert non combat MOS troops) get attacked. Two guys in that group man the fuck up and go hard against the enemy while 6 of them jump into a hole and try not to die. The entire group get a CAB. I'm Okay with that. It might not be the right thing but I'm good with it. |
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Quoted: Hey, as a United States Marine enlisted man, it is really hard to complete three years of undetected crime! I made Sgt. in just over two years (I was really good at doing things Marines do); because I didn’t have a Good Conduct medal, everyone thought I was a shit bird. View Quote |
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Quoted: Hey, as a United States Marine enlisted man, it is really hard to complete three years of undetected crime! I made Sgt. in just over two years (I was really good at doing things Marines do); because I didn’t have a Good Conduct medal, everyone thought I was a shit bird. View Quote It took me almost 5 years to make Sergeant. |
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Quoted: I never considered an MSM a high enough award to brag about. View Quote I chuckle a little bit when I see the plates, but good on them for taking money back from the USG...unless their state doesn't allow that and they actually paid for them... The PH plates were an easy sell. Free, and a lot of states give you free tolls and shit like that. I've got a pile of BSM's and never once thought about getting plates until the lady at the DMV asked if I had one when I was registering my wife's car. $12 bucks later I was proud to tell the world I was a BSM recipient. |
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Quoted: I know one guy who got his CIB that way. Pressure plate IED went off damaging the Hummer he was driving (1SG's truck). No other enemy contact. It was back when people were getting them for IEDs when they were added as criteria for initiating contact and they were getting confused as the only needed element instead of IEDs being the initiation of a TIC (2009). View Quote I had a CAB as a 19 series PV2 in an Infantry company three days after getting to Iraq for running a .50 in a TIC until I was black on ammo. We got our combat awards before any of the 11Bs did, they weren't happy about that. I've probably earned it 40 or 50 times over since then. I have seen CIBs for IEDs, for IDF, for just about everything. I've seen SF ODAs bring out their staff and fake firefights for CIBs. Once an award is designed its a measure tied to competition, there's going to be all kinds of funky shit going on with them. Hell, the other day I just saw a retroactive purple heart awarded because a guy was fucking with a UXO and fragged himself and 4 other people. I called him out during his celebration. |
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Quoted: Hell, the other day I just saw a retroactive purple heart awarded because a guy was fucking with a UXO and fragged himself and 4 other people. I called him out during his celebration. View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: For all of you GD war heroes, what WOULD be an appropriate award to adorn across your motorcycle jacket? Good Conduct would be hilarious. View Quote Captain Sarcasm that I am, I wore my Good Conduct medal lapel pin once to a wedding. The only one that knew what it was was another vet. He snarfed when he realized what it was and said, "Good one!" |
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Quoted: I’m so clueless I’ve been missing out on the possibility of cheaper plates but I have gotten into national parks View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’ll be damned. Wonder if MSM plates are discounted. I don’t have any cool-guy warhero ones, but I’ve got some MSM’s and Air Medals I’m so clueless I’ve been missing out on the possibility of cheaper plates but I have gotten into national parks The only cheaper plate option in California that I’m aware of is 100% disabled due to a mobility condition. Buddy of mine with two bad knees was able to get the county veteran services officer to sign off on the paperwork. The VA medical center refused to. Unfortunately there’s no discounted vet plate that not also a handicapped plate |
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A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.
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Quoted: Quoted: That's not a jacket you get at the store. That's a motorcycle club. Their center patch is a ribbon they've earned, according to their website. That guy who rode past you is a hero. He earned the NDSM. You never know. Maybe he really has a DSC or a Navy Cross and a sense of humor. I once knew an old 442 RCT vet that used to tell new guys at the Legion that he was in Japanese aviation supply and handed out crash helmets to Kamikaze pilots. He was one funny deadpan character when I knew him. The other WW2 guys at the legion used to laugh like hell when he did that. I was sad to hear he passed. |
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Quoted: What's that one called? Anyone can get a KDSM, I thought. @CarmelBytheSea +2 View Quote @11boomboom https://www.afpc.af.mil/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/421898/republic-of-korea-korean-war-service-medal/ |
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Quoted: @11boomboom https://www.afpc.af.mil/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/421898/republic-of-korea-korean-war-service-medal/ View Quote Interesting. The one I saw was the mostly blue one when I searched for Korean War medal. |
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Quoted: MSM's used to be handed out like CoA's to SNCO's and Field Grades for not getting relieved on a deployment. View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: Well, a jacket like that would definitely make it easier for me at the Veteran's Day Golden Corral Free Buffet so I don't have to wear my full uniform so everyone can give me the proper recognition I so richly deserve and thanx me for my cervix. https://everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Stolen-Valor.jpg View Quote Basic EOD badge, what a bitch. |
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Quoted: US Army 1970-2012. I have three of them. In basic (1970) at the sunny and pleasant Fort Bragg it was called the "Fire Guard Ribbon". The mark of a true warrior who would do anything for a drink between 2400 hrs - 0500 hrs. Was issued and became proficient with the fire guard stick aka broom handle. View Quote Damn. 42 years across several conflicts. |
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The NDSM is one slight step above the rainbow ribbon. Still utterly useless.
Frankly, I think the only medal that really deserves praise is the MOH. Those require more scrutiny than most. Lord knows they give out Bronze and Silver stars like candy to officers. Most people never look twice for a V device on them. We all know the “staged” PHs, CIBs, and CABs. Hell we had a guy who tried to put in for a PH because he twisted his ankle running for cover during a mortar attack. |
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Quoted: The NDSM is one slight step above the rainbow ribbon. Still utterly useless. Frankly, I think the only medal that really deserves praise is the MOH. Those require more scrutiny than most. Lord knows they give out Bronze and Silver stars like candy to officers. Most people never look twice for a V device on them. We all know the “staged” PHs, CIBs, and CABs. Hell we had a guy who tried to put in for a PH because he twisted his ankle running for cover during a mortar attack. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: The NDSM is one slight step above the rainbow ribbon. Still utterly useless. Frankly, I think the only medal that really deserves praise is the MOH. Those require more scrutiny than most. Lord knows they give out Bronze and Silver stars like candy to officers. Most people never look twice for a V device on them. We all know the “staged” PHs, CIBs, and CABs. Hell we had a guy who tried to put in for a PH because he twisted his ankle running for cover during a mortar attack. I think any award with a "V" device deserves praise. Same for CIB/CAB/CMB and PH. Quoted: They tried to delineate combat exposure by position, bless their hearts, which is not correct. They did. Dick move, IMO. |
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Quoted: I chuckle a little bit when I see the plates, but good on them for taking money back from the USG...unless their state doesn't allow that and they actually paid for them... The PH plates were an easy sell. Free, and a lot of states give you free tolls and shit like that. I've got a pile of BSM's and never once thought about getting plates until the lady at the DMV asked if I had one when I was registering my wife's car. $12 bucks later I was proud to tell the world I was a BSM recipient. View Quote 100% |
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Quoted: Interesting. The one I saw was the mostly blue one when I searched for Korean War medal. View Quote That’s the original 1950s United Nations issue medals but the ROK wanted to award their own Republic of Korea medal I think on the 50th anniversary of the Korean War and Pentagon initially said it would not be authorized as if some Clint Eastwood aged Korea war vets gave a shit what the Pentagon announced proved. I’m not sure when it finally became authorized without looking up info online |
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Quoted: I think any award with a "V" device deserves praise. Same for CIB/CAB/CMB and PH. They did. Dick move, IMO. View Quote It's all smoke and magic. That CPT with the MSM will just get another for PCSing a year later, degrading the whole purpose of the first one. Rank tied to awards or award quotas are nonsense anyway. Luckily I've never managed to fall into that trap in my career. Got my first V device as a PFC, got my first BSM as an E5. Everything past that is just growing share prices for rackbuilder.com. Here's another neat variable, time. I've seen a lot of issues with Ranger Regiment and SF Groups having problems getting BSMs approved because they do short tours and often need to combine deployments to get one. But then I've seen NMF dudes with 7-8 BSM's due to short tours. In the end, the only thing I can say about awards is everything is made up and the points dont matter. |
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Quoted: The NDSM is one slight step above the rainbow ribbon. Still utterly useless. Frankly, I think the only medal that really deserves praise is the MOH. Those require more scrutiny than most. Lord knows they give out Bronze and Silver stars like candy to officers. Most people never look twice for a V device on them. We all know the “staged” PHs, CIBs, and CABs. Hell we had a guy who tried to put in for a PH because he twisted his ankle running for cover during a mortar attack. View Quote The MoH is the most political medal of all. They gave Billy Dixon a medal of honor for his actions at the battles of adobe walls and then tried to take it away because he was a scout for the army but not a soldier. he said, no thank you. It hangs in a museum in Amarillo. |
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Quoted: In the end, the only thing I can say about awards is everything is made up and the points dont matter. View Quote I mean, that's basically the thing. Personal awards can have meaning for the individual. The awards I'm proudest of are my CIB and stack of OSRs because it used to trip people out how much time I was overseas. |
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