Two deaths associated with the nation's outbreak of vaping-related illnesses have been announced in New Jersey and in Virginia on Tuesday, bringing the total death toll to 16.

One victim was an adult female from northern New Jersey while the other victim was an adult from the southwest region of Virginia. Virginia state officials did not release additional information about the victim who died in Greensboro, North Carolina, on Sept. 26.

Pew resurfaced these charts and figures as the death toll stemming from vaping-related breathing illness hit 12 on Thursday, the CDC reported, along with 805 confirmed or probable cases of the mysterious illness that has stricken the nation.

Two more people have died from a severe lung illness linked to vaping, bringing the total number of deaths in the U.S. to 11. The 10th victim was in Georgia and the 11th was in Florida. While the Georgia patient had a history of heavy e-cigarette use, doctors said the patient didn't vape THC, the active ingredient in marijuana.

No information regarding the individual who died in Florida has been made available by the Florida Department of Health.

Out of the 530 cases, the CDC has analyzed 373 and determined that that two-thirds of people with severe lung illnesses, or 67 percent are 18 to 34 years old, and 16 percent are under 18.  The majority, 72 percent, are male. The CDC said symptoms include cough, shortness of breath, fatigue, chest pain, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. These worsen over time.

At the business end of things, Altria and Philip Morris International said Wednesday that they were calling off merger talks a month after floating a deal that would have created the world's largest tobacco company.

The makers of Marlboro cigarettes said last month that they were in discussions to become a single company, more than a decade after splitting into two as lawsuits mounted.

Altria has exclusively sold Marlboro cigarettes and other tobacco brands in the US, while Philip Morris has handled international sales.

TIMELINE OF THE ELEVEN VAPING DEATHS IN THE US

FIRST VICTIM
An Illinois man said to be using e-cigarettes to smoke THC died on August 24 after his lungs failed when he developed a mystery lung illness.

SECOND VICTIM
The second person to die after vaping was a 'middle-aged' Oregon resident.

They were said to have recently started using an e-cigarette containing cannabis oil from a legal dispensary and passed away sometime at the end of August.

THIRD VICTIM
A third victim in Indiana passed away from the mysterious lung disease in August.

The patient was described only as 'elderly' and little else is known about them.

FOURTH VICTIM
The fourth victim, a 65-year-old man, died sometime in August but his death wasn't confirmed until September 6.

Minnesota officials said the patient had been using the electronic devices to smoke THC.

FIFTH VICTIM
A 55-year-old man from Los Angeles was the fifth person to lose his life after smoking the e-cigarettes. He died on September 7.

SIXTH VICTIM
A woman in her fifties was the sixth person to succumb to vaping-related illnesses.

The Kansas-born woman, who had a history of health problems, passed away on September 12.

SEVENTH VICTIM
A California man became the seventh person to pass away after using the devices. The 40-year-old from Tulare County died on September 17.

EIGHTH VICTIM  
The Missouri man in his forties became the eighth victim to die from vaping.

He had normal lung function until he started using the devices in May.

The victim began experiencing trouble breathing which gradually got worse before he was taken to hospital in St Louis on August 22. He passed away on September 19.

NINTH VICTIM
A man in his fifties became the second Kansas resident to die to the vaping-related illness.

He was said to be a regular vaper who had 'underlying health issues'. He passed on September 24.

TENTH VICTIM
Georgia identified the state's first death from a vaping-associated illness.

The patient had a history of heavy nicotine vaping, but no reported history of vaping THC, the active ingredient in marijuana.

ELEVENTH VICTIM
No information regarding the individual who died in Florida has been made available by the Florida Department of Health

Shown are the expression levels of HMOX1 and CYP1A1, two biomarkers of smoke exposure, in HBE cells under different exposure treatments and times. AT, air treated control, MSS, mainstream smoke treated, EV0, e-vapor (0?mg/ml nicotine)-treated, EV16, e-vapor (16?mg/ml nicotine)-treated. Values presented are FPKM.

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I'm gonna make a prediction here. I'm thinking its because the less than whole smoke is worse than whole smoke. As bad as smoking pot and tobacco are, vaping it appears worse. It does not activate the same genetic expressions

https://i.postimg.cc/c4R5X3fP/41598-2016-Article-BFsrep23984-Fig4-HTML.jpg

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep23984

and with marijuana whole vs partial (ie could extrapolate to vape), I addressed it here https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Vaping-criminal-probe-launched-as-mystery-illness-reaches-530/5-2256873/&r=81117506&dlnk=1#i81117506

edit probably a failure of p53 activation in vape, that activates in whole smoke. p53 repairs dna damage and causes cell apoptosis if needed.

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I still think this is directly related to people using oils instead of glycol.

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Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States

LET'S BAN VAPING!

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Self regulating problem.  Like heroin/fentynal users.

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Mind explaining the other millions of vape users that have been vaping for years without issue?

This is for posterity, fairly sure hes got me on ignore.

Kinda funny that just now suddenly cases appear. What changed? Explain that with the scientific method, hint it involves another variable

In one of the other threads 84% of those that died had admitted to using thc vape. Bets on the other 16% did use it but didn't admit to it?

Eta: there is no smoke in vape, no combustion= no smoke= none of your quoted crap

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Falling coconuts kill 150 people each year. Just sayin, coconuts are at least 10x worse than vaping.

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its sad how big of a deal they are really trying to make this.

its on every local news channel, morning evening and night.

freaking 11 people, give me a break.....

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Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States

LET'S BAN VAPING!

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I still think this is directly related to people using oils instead of glycol.

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Widespread use of vape, and people switching entirely over to vape products and cutting out smoking. That's why we're seeing all these cases all of the sudden IMO

I'm saying the lack of whole smoke is the problem with vape. See how its not triggering the "smoke" genes in the graph I posted? Diid you check out the link to the study where it shows vape nicotine has a different genetic profile reaction than "mainstream smoke" (what the study calls it aka regular cigarette smoke).

Unfortunately, about 20 children die in the U.S. every year because they drown in buckets. Children love water. When a child sees a bucket of water, it is an instant attraction.

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Coincidence, a bad batch of an ingredient from somewhere, a specific food grade flavoring that doesn't react well to being vaporized and inhaled, a previously unknown allergy to a specific food grade flavoring or something along those lines maybe?

Given how many use these devices, one would think if there was a major issue you would have thousands, if not tens of thousands of people sick or dead.

Reading the very basic details reminds me of how the media reports on influenza deaths. The number is the sizzle but when you dig into the facts you find things like age, pre-existing health issues and the like behind the majority.

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11!

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Mind explaining the other millions of vape users that have been vaping for years without issue?

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Cumulative effect? Maybe, like tobacco, it takes years to become ill from it? So just now been around long enough to see the onset of long term health consequences?

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Remember when an entire industry had to retool to add tamper resistant seals to their products when seven people dies in Chicago from poisoned Tylenol? Me too

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Probably have to be pretty high up the supply chain for this to be a case of tampering but it is not impossible.

The THC stuff in legal states is produced locally AFAIK, naturally the bootleg stuff in illegal states is made in somebody's basement.

The liquid industry has had a big push to rely on legitimate labs to produce their product. For the most part the DIY mix thing is gone from the retail end.

Juul carts are produced in a factory and have several tamper seals, on case packaging, "pack" purchase packaging and individual pods.

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I still think this is directly related to people using oils instead of glycol.