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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:44:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. Know what the average age of a new HD buyer is in the last few years? Ever wonder why the kids won't buy HD? There're reasons for all that & reliability is one of them. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:53:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  My cousin has three HD's. One (pick one) is always in the shop, he's riding one & the third is waiting to go to the shop for repairs. There's ALWAYS something wrong with all three of them at any given time. Your love of HD doesn't change the facts about their reliability. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have had dozens of Harleys over the years. I have had a couple that gave me minor issues - but they were due to serious builds I did or paid to have done. To throw a blanket statement out that Harleys are not reliable means you probably have never owned one - or the last one you owned was a pre EVO AMF piece of shit. My cousin has three HD's. One (pick one) is always in the shop, he's riding one & the third is waiting to go to the shop for repairs. There's ALWAYS something wrong with all three of them at any given time. Your love of HD doesn't change the facts about their reliability. My fleet of 19 police Harley's are all in service, none are leaking oil, and they're all ridden hard. I had one this past weekend need a jump during our Memorial Day Parade details; $150 for a new stator and it was back on the road in a couple hours. Anti-Harley bros are worse than Harley bros 
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:59:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 100% Are Harley guys that ignorant or is it beyond their comprehension. GSA- great power, adjustable abs, adjustable traction control, adjustable suspension height, adjustable wheelie control, 7 ride modes, heated grips, heated seats, heated suit plugs, universal pannier attachment system, quick shift, on or off road ridding, great handling and lighter than a HD Harley “Astro Glide”- SHINNY and if you change everything possible it’s at best half a factory GSA and still sounds like obsolete junk running. Least reliable and inefficient engines made. I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. its a very boomer thing. They have AMF stuck in their heads like the VCR thats blinking 12:00 in their particle board entertainment center. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:09:26 AM EST
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:13:12 AM EST
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Tenere 700
Tracer 9 GT Pan America Id take any of these to replace my xsr700 that is serving as my main transportation and has been for the past 2.5 years |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:21:20 AM EST
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I'm really happy with my DL 1000 V Strom Good all around mounut and stone cold reliable. Not as sexy or single track friendly as my former KTM 950 Adventures but my one bike choice. I have sold all my other tagged bikes.
In a money no option world I might consider finding the best 950S adventure out there and picking up a couple more as spare parts.  |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:32:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Know what the average age of a new HD buyer is in the last few years? Ever wonder why the kids won't buy HD? There're reasons for all that & reliability is one of them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. Know what the average age of a new HD buyer is in the last few years? Ever wonder why the kids won't buy HD? There're reasons for all that & reliability is one of them.  |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:47:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Know what the average age of a new HD buyer is in the last few years? Ever wonder why the kids won't buy HD? There're reasons for all that & reliability is one of them. The numbers are surprising actually. Harley still captures most of the 25-30 crowd in the last numbers I saw. Of course they just capture most, period. I shudder to think what the average age of an ADV rider…it isn’t young that’s for sure. But Harley is being smart. They are reducing their production and for good reason, there just aren’t as many young people riding at all any more. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 1:40:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Know what the average age of a new HD buyer is in the last few years? Ever wonder why the kids won't buy HD? There're reasons for all that & reliability is one of them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. Know what the average age of a new HD buyer is in the last few years? Ever wonder why the kids won't buy HD? There're reasons for all that & reliability is one of them. I've seen that posted on here numerous times but it certainly doesn't reflect the area I'm in. Everything from casual riders to the club bikers are filled with young guys on Harleys. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 1:41:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My cousin has three HD's. One (pick one) is always in the shop, he's riding one & the third is waiting to go to the shop for repairs. There's ALWAYS something wrong with all three of them at any given time. Your love of HD doesn't change the facts about their reliability. I'm surrounded by people with Harleys that are never in the shop for anything other than maintenance. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 1:44:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My cousin has three HD's. One (pick one) is always in the shop, he's riding one & the third is waiting to go to the shop for repairs. There's ALWAYS something wrong with all three of them at any given time. Your love of HD doesn't change the facts about their reliability. I think your cousin should never play Russian Roulette. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 1:55:36 PM EST
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:14:05 PM EST
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I haven't quite decided if this thread is more of a "Ford VS Chevy" argument, or if it more of a "stop liking what I don't like" thread. It may be a combination of the two.
To all who still ride, enjoy yourself whatever kind of bike you ride, and stay safe. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:15:29 PM EST
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Vincent Black Shadow. Hands down.
Edit: No can read so good  |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:18:52 PM EST
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If you’re going to take it off pavement get a KLR650.
If you’re going to stay on pavement only get something w/a fairing, some sort of bags and at lease 1000cc. Stay with Japanese brands. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:21:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryVery nice looking Indian! |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:30:27 PM EST
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LOL at the Harley hate BS in this thread. Although it wouldn't be my first choice, I could get by with a Harley Heritage Softail for an "only" bike, which would include riding on sandy USFS roads in northern Michigan. I, and the guys I ride with, have owned a variety of bikes over the years, including Harley Davidsons. Those Harleys, with the exception of the AMF Sportster that I owned, have all been reliable. Now I wish I still had that XLCH.
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:41:59 PM EST
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Any machine can - and will - break down. But I will bet that as a percentage, HDs are one of the most reliable bikes on the road - if not the most. People just love hating on stuff here.
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Posted: 6/4/2023 2:42:20 PM EST
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I don't know. If my job would require me to drive coast to coast on a motorcycle, in all weather, I wouldn't be working between November and March.
That being said, I love my Yamaha FZ 07.(now MT 07) The CP2 engine is bulletproof. Stock seat sucks for long distance travel, but thats about it. Probably need some aftermarket baggage though. I considered a KTM Duke, but parts availability sucks. It's a nice bike, but if something breaks, I'm not waiting months to get a part. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 3:04:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:   Nothing beats a sumo for fun-to-dollar, especially if you have limited time and or tight roads. I stoppie at the end of my driveway, wheelie thru the gears to the stop sign at the end of the road and then drop it from 6th into 2nd and back it into the first turn out of the neighborhood. I’m grinning ear to ear like an idiot within the first 60 seconds and hundred yards of road. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/287916/00441209-A1BD-45CC-B3AD-3EA4E36CDA0F-2502888.jpg I giggled at this post. Then it dawned on me, my daily driver is a SMCR. So yes, supermoto every day.
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Posted: 6/4/2023 3:11:28 PM EST
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I'm not up on all the new stuff out there so I'd probably go find whatever the last VFR model was that Honda made and go with that. Get off my lawn!
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Posted: 6/4/2023 5:32:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not up on all the new stuff out there so I'd probably go find whatever the last VFR model was that Honda made and go with that. Get off my lawn! There's no get off my lawn in any VFR, those things freaking rule! Selling my '02 was the biggest mistake I ever made. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 5:45:10 PM EST
[#23]
My R1250GSA is boringly good. Especially for commuting, 1000mi+ days, date night, twisties, gravel, easy maintenance, hauling a bunch of stuff....
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Posted: 6/4/2023 5:56:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the exact opposite of what I want a MC to do. 
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:29:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My fleet of 19 police Harley's are all in service, none are leaking oil, and they're all ridden hard. I had one this past weekend need a jump during our Memorial Day Parade details; $150 for a new stator and it was back on the road in a couple hours. Anti-Harley bros are worse than Harley bros I used to be in the "Harley's are crap" camp, but after watching a lot of "Million Dollar Bogan" on the YouTubes and him putting his Road Glide(?) through the wringer I'm not so sure... That bike has been rode hard and put away wet so much with (apparently) no major problems...  |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:39:51 PM EST
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Quoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. I grew up on Harley’s. My dad had 10 HDs at one point, always got them for a steal from somebody that needed the money more. Rode one through college and my 20s. They are way behind current motorcycles- I’d rather ride Honda, KTM, Husky, BMW, Ducati, Kawasaki, Suzuki, or Yamaha any day over an HD. HD is as American as every mfr listed above- Assembled in America isn’t American made. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:42:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to be in the "Harley's are crap" camp, but after watching a lot of "Million Dollar Bogan" on the YouTubes and him putting his Road Glide(?) through the wringer I'm not so sure... That bike has been rode hard and put away wet so much with (apparently) no major problems... https://i.imgur.com/IZ3VZFi.jpg Harley-Davidson is the target of hate because they make a great, albeit expensive and someone dated, bike. Yes, they are overpriced. Yes, they will never be as fast as any sport bike. Yes, they are heavy. And yes, there are a lot of "wanna be bikers" out there riding Harleys. But, they are very reliable, handle well for the weight and they still own the largest % of the heavy bike market - by a long ways. And my big dump truck, a 2020 CVO Limited, will still click off 4.4 second 0-60 times while providing me an extremely comfortable ride with lots of creature comforts. So, all y'all just keep hating on them. I'll keep riding all of mine with no breakdowns.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:47:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HD is as American as every mfr listed above- Assembled in America isn’t American made. This is true of literally 95% of products sold in the United States. And Harley makes their motors/transmissions in WI. They make their fiberglass in WI. They make frames, gas tanks, fenders in PA - where the bikes are assembled. You won't find many cars, trucks, motorcycles, etc. more made in America than Harley-Davidsons. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:50:00 PM EST
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I'm not a fan of baggers as I prefer my bikes slicker and lighter but if it's my everyday transportation I'll need the ability to carry items more than I do now and would need something comfortable for long rides on the highway.
For me it'd be the Indian Chieftain. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 6:56:48 PM EST
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To be fair, some of the H-D hate is left over from the days when H-D riders looked down on metric riders. I remember the days of "when you gonna get a real bike instead of that jap crap" and I'm sure most of you do too.
And let's be honest, the AMF era H-D's weren't exactly known for quality. There's been (and still is) a lot of unreasonable hate on both sides. Me? I like motorcycles, period. Most of my favorite memories are on two wheels, I just wish I could still ride. 
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:00:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I grew up on Harley’s. My dad had 10 HDs at one point, always got them for a steal from somebody that needed the money more. Rode one through college and my 20s. They are way behind current motorcycles- I’d rather ride Honda, KTM, Husky, BMW, Ducati, Kawasaki, Suzuki, or Yamaha any day over an HD. HD is as American as every mfr listed above- Assembled in America isn’t American made. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. I grew up on Harley’s. My dad had 10 HDs at one point, always got them for a steal from somebody that needed the money more. Rode one through college and my 20s. They are way behind current motorcycles- I’d rather ride Honda, KTM, Husky, BMW, Ducati, Kawasaki, Suzuki, or Yamaha any day over an HD. HD is as American as every mfr listed above- Assembled in America isn’t American made. Being outdated underpowered etc is a totally different thing. I agree with those points but it still doesn't make them bad. Just like guys who like to shoot revolvers. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:13:10 PM EST
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You want one bike for all of North America?
Nobody makes one. They don't exist. There is no good answer. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:17:08 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You want one bike for all of North America? Nobody makes one. They don't exist. There is no good answer. so fun |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:18:28 PM EST
[#34]
harley roadking
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:21:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being outdated underpowered etc is a totally different thing. I agree with those points but it still doesn't make them bad. Just like guys who like to shoot revolvers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. I grew up on Harley's. My dad had 10 HDs at one point, always got them for a steal from somebody that needed the money more. Rode one through college and my 20s. They are way behind current motorcycles- I'd rather ride Honda, KTM, Husky, BMW, Ducati, Kawasaki, Suzuki, or Yamaha any day over an HD. HD is as American as every mfr listed above- Assembled in America isn't American made. Being outdated underpowered etc is a totally different thing. I agree with those points but it still doesn't make them bad. Just like guys who like to shoot revolvers. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:24:41 PM EST
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Top speed of a road glide is 105-110 when it hits the limiter. And it will pull like a train to that point. A very few mods and it does more than that. 0-60 in 4.6, again, stock. Nimble enough to dominate police competitions….if you have the ability.
Do you honestly need more than that on public roads? I don’t but I am just a daily rider. Having said that a lot of you know I ride a GSA most of the time. I don’t own a tour bike and the only Harley I currently own is older than me. I just love all motorcycles. But here is a challenge for Harley Haters…go ride one. Seriously go do it and post a no BS review and let’s see what you think from real first hand experience. It’s easy to do, Harley dealers practically force test rides on you. Go check them out. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:25:49 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. But it's still enjoyable to poke fun at HD guys that believe their bikes are the end all, be all. I am sure this is about as exciting as hating SIG Sauers. But real riders, are brand agnostic. I own Harleys, I own Triumphs, I own metrics, I am looking at KTMs. I ride. I appreciate the ride. And I have fun on all brands. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:30:07 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am sure this is about as exciting as hating SIG Sauers. But real riders, are brand agnostic. I own Harleys, I own Triumphs, I own metrics, I am looking at KTMs. I ride. I appreciate the ride. And I have fun on all brands. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Agreed. But it's still enjoyable to poke fun at HD guys that believe their bikes are the end all, be all. I am sure this is about as exciting as hating SIG Sauers. But real riders, are brand agnostic. I own Harleys, I own Triumphs, I own metrics, I am looking at KTMs. I ride. I appreciate the ride. And I have fun on all brands. even though I like tossing shit at HD guys, I'll probably end up owning one at some point. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:30:18 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But here is a challenge for Harley Haters…go ride one. Seriously go do it and post a no BS review and let’s see what you think from real first hand experience. It’s easy to do, Harley dealers practically force test rides on you. Go check them out. Harley haters would screw their first cousin before they rode a Harley. They hate things because all their group think buddies on here will pile on with them. I'm guessing most of these dudes/girlies think a long day in the saddle is riding 50 miles. Ignorance is pure bliss @Canoeguy ! |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:33:06 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Harley haters would screw their first cousin before they rode a Harley. They hate things because all their group think buddies on here will pile on with them. I'm guessing most of these dudes/girlies think a long day in the saddle is riding 50 miles. Ignorance is pure bliss @Canoeguy ! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But here is a challenge for Harley Haters…go ride one. Seriously go do it and post a no BS review and let’s see what you think from real first hand experience. It’s easy to do, Harley dealers practically force test rides on you. Go check them out. Harley haters would screw their first cousin before they rode a Harley. They hate things because all their group think buddies on here will pile on with them. I'm guessing most of these dudes/girlies think a long day in the saddle is riding 50 miles. Ignorance is pure bliss @Canoeguy ! That's not true my cousin's virtue is intact and I now own a Fatbob. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:34:42 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: even though I like tossing shit at HD guys, I'll probably end up owning one at some point. I have said that I am looking at KTMs. And while I want a KTM 1290 Super Duke really damn bad, I am thinking I'll kill myself on it. Really damn quickly! I like my Triumph Tigers. With that in mind, I might just test ride a HD Pan America. I really thought it was a boneheaded idea for HD to enter the adventure bike market so late, but the independent reviews are really good. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:35:19 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not true my cousin's virtue is intact and I now own a Fatbob. But are you a Harley hater? |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:35:53 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. But it's still enjoyable to poke fun at HD guys that believe their bikes are the end all, be all. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. I grew up on Harley's. My dad had 10 HDs at one point, always got them for a steal from somebody that needed the money more. Rode one through college and my 20s. They are way behind current motorcycles- I'd rather ride Honda, KTM, Husky, BMW, Ducati, Kawasaki, Suzuki, or Yamaha any day over an HD. HD is as American as every mfr listed above- Assembled in America isn't American made. Being outdated underpowered etc is a totally different thing. I agree with those points but it still doesn't make them bad. Just like guys who like to shoot revolvers. It just comes across as envy most of the time. It's like that frat boy act when they all gang up on something. Almost all of the diehard Harley guys I know are that way solely because they are an American company. They are almost all Vets and all consider themselves pretty patriotic people. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:39:03 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: so fun It's not that simple. I'm sure the ADV guys will be here to tell you about how their GSA will do this and that and oh my god Harley guys and.... If I were only going to ride paved roads - I would want a gigantic tourer. Harley Limited, Road Glide, something to that effect, Gold Wing would be a great choice. If I were going to ride dirt roads, not every *marked* dirt road is traversable by a GSA or whatever ADV bike is the soup de jour. I can think of three old logging roads on maps that are barely passable on something like a 300XCW - which I have. You're not taking one of those GSA's to 5 Miles of Hell, either. This premise is stupid, because predicated on jerking off ADV guys in their power rangers outfits so they can pretend. "Hurrrdurrr I can take my bike where you can't take your Harley." No shit. You can take a bowling ball into the ocean, but you can't roll strikes with a surfboard. Some retard will be along to say the KLR will do it all - of course, as is par for any motorcycle thread on here. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:43:10 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It just comes across as envy most of the time. It's like that frat boy act when they all gang up on something. Almost all of the diehard Harley guys I know are that way solely because they are an American company. They are almost all Vets and all consider themselves pretty patriotic people. Again, I ride with all sorts so it doesn't matter to me. First road bike I ever rode on was a sportster. ride on. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:47:02 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have said that I am looking at KTMs. And while I want a KTM 1290 Super Duke really damn bad, I am thinking I'll kill myself on it. Really damn quickly! I like my Triumph Tigers. With that in mind, I might just test ride a HD Pan America. I really thought it was a boneheaded idea for HD to enter the adventure bike market so late, but the independent reviews are really good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: even though I like tossing shit at HD guys, I'll probably end up owning one at some point. I have said that I am looking at KTMs. And while I want a KTM 1290 Super Duke really damn bad, I am thinking I'll kill myself on it. Really damn quickly! I like my Triumph Tigers. With that in mind, I might just test ride a HD Pan America. I really thought it was a boneheaded idea for HD to enter the adventure bike market so late, but the independent reviews are really good. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:49:33 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It just comes across as envy most of the time. It's like that frat boy act when they all gang up on something. Almost all of the diehard Harley guys I know are that way solely because they are an American company. They are almost all Vets and all consider themselves pretty patriotic people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. I grew up on Harley's. My dad had 10 HDs at one point, always got them for a steal from somebody that needed the money more. Rode one through college and my 20s. They are way behind current motorcycles- I'd rather ride Honda, KTM, Husky, BMW, Ducati, Kawasaki, Suzuki, or Yamaha any day over an HD. HD is as American as every mfr listed above- Assembled in America isn't American made. Being outdated underpowered etc is a totally different thing. I agree with those points but it still doesn't make them bad. Just like guys who like to shoot revolvers. It just comes across as envy most of the time. It's like that frat boy act when they all gang up on something. Almost all of the diehard Harley guys I know are that way solely because they are an American company. They are almost all Vets and all consider themselves pretty patriotic people. Our fleet is Harley only because there's no other brand dealers close to HQ Our department history was Harley's way back when, Kawasaki's in the 80's, Gold Wings in the 90's, and been Harley's since then. I like all bikes, but have naturally gone towards what I'm familiar with now. The Harley hate crowd is very off-putting and helps me stick with my decision lol. |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:54:20 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: SuperDuke is a beast for sure. I am almost 60 and still ride like I did when I raced motor cross 35 years ago. As much as I want a Super Duke, I actually prefer to live until I am 75. Probably a bad choice for someone my age! 
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:56:08 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like all bikes, but have naturally gone towards what I'm familiar with now. The Harley hate crowd is very off-putting and helps me stick with my decision lol. This is absolutely true! Anything that so many hate is probably the better choice! |
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Posted: 6/4/2023 7:58:09 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not that simple. I'm sure the ADV guys will be here to tell you about how their GSA will do this and that and oh my god Harley guys and.... If I were only going to ride paved roads - I would want a gigantic tourer. Harley Limited, Road Glide, something to that effect, Gold Wing would be a great choice. If I were going to ride dirt roads, not every *marked* dirt road is traversable by a GSA or whatever ADV bike is the soup de jour. I can think of three old logging roads on maps that are barely passable on something like a 300XCW - which I have. You're not taking one of those GSA's to 5 Miles of Hell, either. This premise is stupid, because predicated on jerking off ADV guys in their power rangers outfits so they can pretend. "Hurrrdurrr I can take my bike where you can't take your Harley." No shit. You can take a bowling ball into the ocean, but you can't roll strikes with a surfboard. Some retard will be along to say the KLR will do it all - of course, as is par for any motorcycle thread on here. In fairness a GSA certainly can go where Harleys(minus the PanAm) can’t. And then it can jump on the highway and ride across America on the interstate extremely comfortably. However…most of them don’t. But that is the rider and not the bike. But if your riding doesn’t include mud, rocks, ruts, and etc. then the GSA is perhaps not the right bike and a Harley may be. Or better yet you may just want a Harley because of the way it looks or vice-versa you may want a GSA to dream of big international adventures. No matter the reason that is a good enough in my mind to choose one over the other. |
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