Go make your own thread

I’m thinking either divorce or he torpedoed his military career just when he could retire.

Really sorry you had to deal with that.

Ok cool. Next time I hope people start throwing bowling balls. Free ammo, there for the taking. Imagine 27 bowling balls coming at that dude. Would be nice if the news talked about these people so we know people fought back. Why this is buried and not top of the news, I don't know. Shit reporting.

It's hindsight now, but this is why people need to have a plan.....cover, react, take down. Practice it. Think about it. Stop living in la la land.

NOT a doctor, but i read a lot.
The brain is amazing, it filters all sorts of background info out 99.99% of the time . Currently you are reading this and you are seeing roughly 180 degrees in front of you, but only actually comprehending about 3degrees, your butt is giving you feeling signals from what the material of your chair is, the mouse is giving you feeling of what the surface is made of, your skin is giving you information about room temp, the drone of your HVAC unit in the background is being filtered out. Each of those things is taking a tiny bit of brain power to filter out, but once you concentrate on them they "appear" again, this is why it is harder to concentrate with music, a TV, 6 kids playing tag, etc going on. .  Potentially the hearing aids nudged the filter mechanism of his brain enough that it wasn't working (or was working incorrectly) and he was hearing his HVAC unit but understanding it as "kill bowlers at XYZ address".

Thank you.  Brother and I have managed to carve decent lives out for ourselves despite the horrors we endured.

Saving for referance later....


Next time someone starts shooting in a bowling ally, I need to pick up  a 12 pound bowling ball and throw it at shooter who's 10,15,20 yards away.

I get what you are trying to say, fight till you can't,  but you are not coming off as intelligent as you think you are.

Unfortunately too many people dont understand that "concealed is concealed."

I doubt though there was a CCWer in any of those places (who left his/her gun home because they were going to a bar). I'd be suprised to find out otherwise.

Too late

Are you arguing that things need to go back to normal? Or what are you questioning? Folks should no longer be vigilant and locked down while this nutso is still loose?

Chill, Winston. There’s “situationally aware” and then there’s flat-out paranoid. Being switched on 24/7 doesn’t make someone real fun to be around.

The shooter is not affiliated with any child porn stuff that I'm aware of, there are 2 people named Robert Card, DOB 4/3/84(registered sex offender), and DOB 4/4/83(Shooter DOB)  with records in Maine  . The CP guy is exact same name, but one day off on DOB and NOT the shooter.   @Pred

And they have constitutional carry.

All those stupid fucking training sessions I went to pretty much left off the fight part.

The latest news today is cops are focusing on the boat launch area of the river, again, divers going down

That has always been my guess, he just waded out to the deep drop off in river, blew his head off, weight of guns, gear, ammo drags him down and current washes him away to the fishes

glub, glub, glub

Hey, harden up and maybe go guard a Walmart or something, anything other than posting stupid, insulting nonsense in this thread.

Reports said one of the bowlers hid in the pin mechanism system. He survived, however hypothetically speaking couldn't the pin system crush someone if it would have activated?  Is there that much room for a person to hid behind the pins?

That's code for donate to my campaign.

It's late October so that river temp is pretty cold so people thinking he swam anywhere in that water and hid all night motionless
escaping thermal without a heat source  man that wouldn't be easy . Even the nights are getting cold up there .

So far it's either he switched cars and is long gone or he didn't walk to far from that ramp and ate a bullet in those woods near by .

Please spare us the details.

Yeah, I'm a large semi-muscular man and I don't think I could start hucking bowling balls for distance and accuracy.  Bowling pins maybe...

You should start teaching your methods of awareness and hardening the fuck up, you know, once you graduate from high school.

I knew there was a reason for the standing power throw

wow this dude is still out and about ? This is the longest a mass shooter has been at large after a shooting. Not surprised if he has previous military experience. It’s wasn’t easy evading capture or law enforcement really screwed up.

Edit:
“Border alert goes up in Canada for fugitive Maine killer Robert Card - as it's revealed he left behind a cell phone to throw cops 'off his scent' after killing 18: Had become obsessed with stock market crashes and Biden before massacre”

This guy has a screen name here for sure

Or someone is helping him

That will NOT fly around here.

If anything does pass they’ll only target those inclined to obey the law anyway. How many Glock switches are running around in major cities? I’ve seen videos of high schoolers showing them off in chi-raq. But cops won’t do anything because that crowd will shoot back.

but it WAS noticed though.

he was referred by his command for mental health screening / care

people KNEW he was losing it

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Maine hunts for Army reservist suspected of killing 18 in Lewiston

By Richard Valdmanis and Gabriella Borter
October 26, 202311:15 PM EDTUpdated 12 hours ago

LEWISTON, Maine, Oct 26 (Reuters) - Police on Thursday searched the woods, waterways and towns of Maine for a U.S. Army reservist wanted in connection with the mass shootings that killed 18 people and wounded 13 more the previous night at a bowling alley and a bar in Lewiston.

The town of Lewiston, a former textile hub of 38,000 people, and neighboring communities largely shut down to enable hundreds of officers to expand their manhunt with an arrest warrant for Robert R. Card. Card, 40, is a sergeant at a nearby U.S. Army Reserve base who law enforcement officials said had been temporarily committed to a mental health facility over the summer.

Police circulated photographs of a bearded man in a brown hooded sweatshirt and jeans at one of the crime scenes armed with what appeared to be a semi-automatic rifle. Hundreds of officers from an array of agencies including the U.S. Coast Guard joined the search, and neighboring Canada said its border officers were on alert.

There was an eerie quiet in the normally bustling city on the banks of the Androscoggin River, with almost no cars on the roads, just a few people outside, and many downtown businesses closed. Rifle-toting security agents in bulletproof vests guarded the hospital where many of the shooting victims were taken.

Card's trail led to Lisbon, about 7 miles (11 km) to the southeast, where Maine State Police found a white SUV they believe Card used to get away and parked at a boat launch on the river. Public records showed he has three watercraft registrations: two Sea-Doos and a Bayliner.

Card is a petroleum supply specialist at the Army Reserve base in Saco, Maine, who had never been deployed in combat since enlisting in 2002, the U.S. Army said.

A Maine law enforcement bulletin described Card as a trained firearms instructor who recently said he had been hearing voices and had other mental health issues.

He threatened to shoot up the National Guard base in Saco and was "reported to have been committed to mental health facility for two weeks during summer 2023 and subsequently released," according to the bulletin from the Maine Information & Analysis Center, a unit of the state police.

Reuters could not confirm the details reported in the bulletin.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/police-scour-maine-man-sought-lewiston-mass-shootings-2023-10-26/

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Some reports said he hid in the pit and others said he crawled up on top of the pin setter. I would assumed he crawled up top of the equipment.
There should be a little space between the machines that you can climb up on before you get to the pit. And depending on the design/setup there could be a few feet of space between the overhang and the machine.

The pins are knocked into a small pit with a belt system to feed them back into the pin setter. The pit is generally a foot or two above the actual concrete floor, due to the space needed for the belt system.
Going into the pit would be relatively dangerous due to a lot of moving parts and I'm not sure how easy that would be to get out of.

Edit- Don't know if I explained it well. This video shows a pretty normal setup.

Who gives a shit? Also, I haven't seen a single refugee or Somali in Lewiston, not saying they're not there. I just haven't seen'em. Im only there a few times a week.

From what I’ve read so far of his military career, deer hunting on a regular basis would’ve given him way more practical skills.

Not even a little

They closed the area schools that night. They're closed today too.

Right. He lost his crap and got violent. Possibly with a retirement package pending. Heck they could have told him something bad regarding his packet and he lost it towards the command. Can’t say I wouldn’t go biblical at someone if they would have played fast and loose with my packet there at the end.

I KNEW IT! FUCKIN KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN. A mass shooting in a state with no AWB or mag ban on the heels of Bruen and Benitez' rulling on Miller and Duncan V. bonta....... The antigun eggheads are going to be coming out of the woodwork.

I think they are putting to much into this guys training  unless he actually trained on his own in addition to the army  He very well may be better than most but some media are acting like he's some kinda special forces operator   And why no ones said much of the girlfriend that recently dumped him ? I'd not be surprised if this alley and the bar was her cliches and friends  that may have Ben dissing him or even threatening him if he bothered  her or something  Theres something to these targets

yes lots of hypotheticals

but as a reservist -- he wouldn't have been eligible to receive his retirement pay for another 20 years anyway -- as a 40 year old -- (receive at age 60)  so it was not an imminent / immediate benefit loss in any case

(mil experts correct me if i am wrong re. Reservist Retirement Pay)

CBS just ran a story citing possibly targeting those locations due to the ex-GF

Well said.

I'd say that's a possibility.  Small chance but not zero.

If 2% of 350 million people are borderline homicidal, that is a lot of warnings.

The divers are searching the river today and the Warden Service will be searching the banks for evidence. Hopefully they uncover something that helps put this threat to an end.

Well of course they are.  These are their opportunities to do something easy.

Check the year....

Just poop shooting here, but I wonder what the chances are this guy had built himself some sort of underground "hidey-hole," where he has literally gone to ground waiting for things to cool off before making his next move. Anyone who's ever read "Rogue Male," will know what I'm talking about. If this is the case, perhaps some hunter will stumble across it come hunting season?

Maybe folks ought to consider arming themselves and providing for the common defense?

That seems normal to me.  How about you?

Agreed 100%. I carry all the time whether at home or not, the only thing I avoid is metal detectors. I had a 2 week trip this summer to Maine, NH, and NY. Obviously broke the laws carrying in the Northeast but I don't care anymore. My priority is protecting my family and having a firearm is the best defense for that.

In the beginning, my wife gave me shit for carrying at work since it was against policy and I could be fired. After the deteriorating nature of our country the past few years, she now understands that policy won't save your ass. The no gun sign won't save your ass. The best chance of survival is fighting back and taking it to the threat. This country needs an enema.

That has crossed my mind.

 You ever seen duck pin bowling.  Did that once as a kid.
  Smaller pins and smaller ball kids bowl with.  No holes in the ball.

It's in the OP: