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We have a roundabout on Ft. Eustis. It sucks, because you are combining VA drivers with a roundabout. It is a two lane roundabout, with both lanes being enter and exit on the main road. The roads that feed into it from the sides are one lane enter and exit. I have had a few close calls when people who are in the inside lane change to the outside lane and exit the roundabout onto one of the side roads without signalling as I am entering the outside lane of the roundabout.
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Our city spent a lot of money installing one of these things which I fucking hate because people are too dumb to yield. So now they made it a 4-way stop, kind of defeats the purpose https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40454/IMG_0134-396857.JPG View Quote I'd say the street department wins the fail contest though. |
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Our city just put in two of them citing "safety." Within the last couple of months there have been more crashes there than in the last ~17 years we've been here.
That's includes dumb motherfuckers going through too fast, losing control and crashing through people's backyard fences. Good thinking, Redding. Safety |
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Quoted: Negative. There were only two such traffic circles in the world, and one of them changed that when I brought it to their attention. View Quote On topic - I like roundabouts, easy to use and keeps traffic flowing. What I really hate with the ones here installed by ODOT is the crazy curves in the approach lanes (to make you slow down prior to entering the roundabout). They're poorly designed and not large enough to accommodate farm equipment (the one at 235 and 41). |
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The first time we drove into this roundabout I thought we were going to die. Driving in Mexico is crazy but this is an extra heavy serving of crazy.
Mexico City Now which way is straight here? |
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The town I grew up in the added two roundabouts on either side of a bridge, I call it a dog bone, don't know the proper term. But it makes things go much more smoothly than having a traffic signal on either side of the bridge. Traffic would back up for nearly a half mile simply because of the lights. Traffic still sucks there because of the nature of the intersection but it flows so much better now. I like roundabouts personally.
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This is the only roundabout I've ever had trouble with. The plaza surrounding the Arc Du Triomphe in Paris. There are no lines on the road. No lanes. No orderly method of transiting the damn thing. You fight your way in and then fight your way back out again. Best left to professionals and scooter pilots. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/62/13/a7/6213a77b8f7ba57e6749ee21a5ec8db0.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Traffic_seen_from_top_of_Arc_de_Triomphe.JPG View Quote |
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Most roundabouts in America are too small.
They also kink the approach lane to slow people down. There's a three-way roundabout on the way to where I ride my dirtbikes. When they opened it the speed limit was 35, on one lane you can take it at 60 if you wanted to with ease. The lowered the speed limit to 20, when I bitched about it and demanded to see the engineering studies they raised it back up to 35. |
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Not to mention the city budget for one (here) is in the millions... just can't see how it could cost that. Maybe I am missing something.
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Roundabouts are fine, IF people use them properly.
The problem is, most people here don't understand or use them properly, and that's why you have problems. (I think a lot of this stems from people not understanding the basics of a Yield sign) I will say, that roundabouts make me nervous on my motorcycle. I've seen too many instances of people just pulling out and not giving a shit. |
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Small roundabouts are horrible in high-traffic areas, but where they've put them around here (Grapevine/Southlake/Westlake) they work amazingly well. Very few people seem to have issues with them. Some are utterly retarded. This is one I randomly went through in Florida, I didn't know WTF they wanted me to do https://www.yourobserver.com/sites/default/files/styles/sliders_and_planned_story_image_870x580/public/photo-0-22455-20121018111019.jpg?itok=EX_f1RFm View Quote |
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I fucking hate the damn things. MI loves putting them in high traffic areas. That combined with the issue that many drivers have no idea how to use them compounds the issue further.
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Small roundabouts are horrible in high-traffic areas, but where they've put them around here (Grapevine/Southlake/Westlake) they work amazingly well. Very few people seem to have issues with them. Some are utterly retarded. This is one I randomly went through in Florida, I didn't know WTF they wanted me to do https://www.yourobserver.com/sites/default/files/styles/sliders_and_planned_story_image_870x580/public/photo-0-22455-20121018111019.jpg?itok=EX_f1RFm View Quote What confused you? Inside lane to navigate all the to the third exit or way around, right lane to go straight through or to turn right. Very simple and efficient. |
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Ah yes, the roundabout. My first experience was in Western Australia. I thought it was neat, but my Aussie GF said, "yeah, until the brickies and sparkies knock off for the arvo and coming hooning 'round, bloody hell...
Sure enough, beer-30 and for a good hour it was diesel Land Cruisers, Patrols, and Pajero's (and V8 Holden's) going round the round about, full throttle a time or two before exiting like that scene in Star Trek where they sling shot around the sun. It was glorious. Black smoke, like cooking chickens in the barnyard. |
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I hate roundabouts in general, but they make 3 wheel motion easier, lol
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Small roundabouts are horrible in high-traffic areas, but where they've put them around here (Grapevine/Southlake/Westlake) they work amazingly well. Very few people seem to have issues with them. Some are utterly retarded. This is one I randomly went through in Florida, I didn't know WTF they wanted me to do https://www.yourobserver.com/sites/default/files/styles/sliders_and_planned_story_image_870x580/public/photo-0-22455-20121018111019.jpg?itok=EX_f1RFm I can't remember if they've changed it or not since I've been there. |
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The stop sign is stupid but I love roundabouts. Speeds traffic up considerably. Yes the tards will have problems but eyes open, head on a swivel and you'll avoid them and get across town in half the time.
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As mentioned in my scenario above (not unlikely in snowy regions like MI and CO), even with the curvature, a newbie to these things coming up to a green light on one of these things may wonder why there's an odd jag in the lane, but instinct and habit say, "STAY ON THE RIGHT", for those who've never encountered one of these. Someone who isn't aware of their existence wouldn't expect a road design/feature that deliberately directs them to drive on the 'wrong' side of a divider. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: I don't know how someone could fuck up driving in a diverging diamond. You follow the gentle curves and the huge arrows. What I envision, is someone who's never been through one before, encountering one for the first time on a snowy winters night. The roads have a light layer of snow, so ther aren't any visible arrows or lines on the road. They see a green light, and have a split second to wonder why there's an odd jag in the road, making it a PITA to stay on the right side they're used to staying in, but instinct tells them, "stay on the right side". Only to encounter oncoming traffic that entered the other side 'correctly'. Someone who isn't aware of their existence wouldn't expect a road design/feature that deliberately directs them to drive on the 'wrong' side of a divider. Diverging Diamond Interchange comes to Washington State |
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Small roundabouts are horrible in high-traffic areas, but where they've put them around here (Grapevine/Southlake/Westlake) they work amazingly well. Very few people seem to have issues with them. Some are utterly retarded. This is one I randomly went through in Florida, I didn't know WTF they wanted me to do https://www.yourobserver.com/sites/default/files/styles/sliders_and_planned_story_image_870x580/public/photo-0-22455-20121018111019.jpg?itok=EX_f1RFm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I loathe roundabouts. Some are utterly retarded. This is one I randomly went through in Florida, I didn't know WTF they wanted me to do https://www.yourobserver.com/sites/default/files/styles/sliders_and_planned_story_image_870x580/public/photo-0-22455-20121018111019.jpg?itok=EX_f1RFm |
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That's actually a rare (in the US, anyway) example of a well-designed one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I loathe roundabouts. Some are utterly retarded. This is one I randomly went through in Florida, I didn't know WTF they wanted me to do https://www.yourobserver.com/sites/default/files/styles/sliders_and_planned_story_image_870x580/public/photo-0-22455-20121018111019.jpg?itok=EX_f1RFm Crash rates quadrupled when they put it in. Sure, that's all human factor, but that doesn't stop it from being the Serpa of intersections |
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So build a giant, expensive "traffic calming device" then put up a $500 stop sign.
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There's a new roundabout in San Antonio. First few months it was ok. Then the gardens they built at the entrance grew up and you can't see who is in the roundabout as you enter until you get real close. This isn't grass you can mow, either. It's like six foot high Esperanza bushes and Bird of Paradise. Fuckin dumb. View Quote |
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If you're stuck with it, might as well have some fun with it...
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You've never lived life until you go full steam into a multilane roundabout in Kuwait. I bet I could have bent an AR barrel my butthole was clenched so tight. That being said I've almost got into a couple wrecks in the US trying to drive a roundabout normally because people are fucking stupid. View Quote |
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You ain't seen roundabouts until you've seen Middle Eastern roundabouts. Here's me doing check-rides with our replacements in southwest Asia.
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Hate these things. We were driving in a country 55 mph road the other night and in the middle of nowhere they had one of these. Absolutely no reason for it, but there it was. Have to keep the union road crew working somehow I guess.
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Hate these things. We were driving in a country 55 mph road the other night and in the middle of nowhere they had one of these. Absolutely no reason for it, but there it was. Have to keep the union road crew working somehow I guess. View Quote Hard to t bone someone at 60 MPH when you hit a roundabout. |
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