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Weird how they don't notice the southern border is wide open....
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@cnnbrk The US military shoots down another high-altitude object from the skies, this time over Lake Huron, sources say. It's the third in as many days |
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Then why is that E3 still doing loops in bfe MI? Has to be that far away to get a radar signature from something way high up and be able to fly level?
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View Quote Bluffwheat be babblin…. |
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View Quote So did COVID. |
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Quoted: Millhouse just started a live stream....if you can stand him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KFPLGJLaaU View Quote WYF is going on? |
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So did COVID. Hello 911? I just witnessed a murder. |
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Quoted: So, like MT, they can't fucking find it? I think we are seeing the failures of our military and potato Administration. While I always suspected our abilities were overstated, we look absolutely impotent. View Quote Surely we have to have it narrowed down pretty well. The planes would watch it to the ground and mark the GPS coordinates reasonably close. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/415017/Screenshot_20230212_123833_Chrome_jpg-2708413.JPG E3 changed course, now headed due north over Milwaukee. Tanker still doing laps over Michigan. View Quote Banner ad is ironic… |
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Quoted: Quoted: Millhouse just started a live stream....if you can stand him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KFPLGJLaaU WYF is going on? They nuked the superbowl |
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John Ramirez, retired CIA analyst, speculating on why UFO's/UAP's have suddenly become a bigger topic in the last few years and it seems to be ramping up even more.
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Jamil Jaffer, founder and executive director of the National Security Institute: US response to flying objects will reveal military capabilities
US response to flying objects will reveal military capabilities: expert | NewsNation Prime |
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Quoted: John Ramirez, retired CIA analyst, speculating on why UFO's/UAP's have suddenly become a bigger topic in the last few years and it seems to be ramping up even more.
View Quote Balloons from China aren’t alien. And we aren’t going to be able to shoot down an alien craft. |
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Quoted: Jamil Jaffer, founder and executive director of the National Security Institute: US response to flying objects will reveal military capabilities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUa0IRFbKU View Quote I'll say again: the military has radar all over the place and they can't see these things either? Everybody is just relying on NORAD? |
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Quoted: Balloons from China aren’t alien. And we aren’t going to be able to shoot down an alien craft. View Quote Correct. But we can shoot down man-made objects that are "thought" to be alien by a substantial portion of the population that is easily affected by the very specific and intentional use of alien/ufo verbiage by .gov and media. The burning question is why. Something strange is going on. But it is of this world. |
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Quoted: I'll say again: the military has radar all over the place and they can't see these things either? Everybody is just relying on NORAD? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Jamil Jaffer, founder and executive director of the National Security Institute: US response to flying objects will reveal military capabilities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUa0IRFbKU I'll say again: the military has radar all over the place and they can't see these things either? Everybody is just relying on NORAD? What about the network of Air Traffic Control centers all over the US. How are they not seeing these balloons / objects ? |
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Quoted: Correct. But we can shoot down man-made objects that are "thought" to be alien by a substantial portion of the population that is easily affected by the very specific and intentional use of alien/ufo verbiage by .gov and media. The burning question is why. Something strange is going on. But it is of this world. View Quote |
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Quoted: ATC "radar" doesn't work the same way as Military radar. ATC stuff essentially relies on the plane's transponder to send the location info out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What about the network of Air Traffic Control centers all over the US. How are they not seeing these balloons / objects ? ATC "Secondary Radar" which is their spinny antenna setup is pretty much junk from the 80s still left around and operational but doesn't even provide as much information as weather radar, it's back at 2nd generation Radar of the Vietnam war era. Once ADSB cooperative radar was initiated they don't even bother looking at their actual radar unless a pilot reports something, and even then they either won't see it or it is hidden in clutter. It barely detects airliners reliably, it won't be showing any balloons unless they're designed to return a strong radar signal with a corner reflector or transponder installed on platform. Problem with weather radar is it's designed to see water in air to get wind speeds and precipitation at all altitudes so isn't so good at airspace control. |
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My local terminal controller under 10,000ft, points out primary targets to commercial arrival traffic all the time. "10 o clock 2 miles, type & altitude unknown primary only" Southwest: "were looking but negative contact"
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Quoted: I'll say again: the military has radar all over the place and they can't see these things either? Everybody is just relying on NORAD? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Jamil Jaffer, founder and executive director of the National Security Institute: US response to flying objects will reveal military capabilities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUa0IRFbKU I'll say again: the military has radar all over the place and they can't see these things either? Everybody is just relying on NORAD? I've seen a few articles quoting someone from NORAD I believe talking about how they recently adjusted the filters. Basically our radars were set to not show anything moving below a certain speed, getting rid of garbage returns and reducing clutter on the screen. If these are air defense radars they probably weren't interested in anything flying slower than an aircraft or ICBM would be. Now they opened up the gate and boom, tons of unidentified contacts. |
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Quoted: I've seen a few articles quoting someone from NORAD I believe talking about how they recently adjusted the filters. Basically our radars were set to not show anything moving below a certain speed, getting rid of garbage returns and reducing clutter on the screen. If these are air defense radars they probably weren't interested in anything flying slower than an aircraft or ICBM would be. Now they opened up the gate and boom, tons of unidentified contacts. View Quote Especially, in the current seas of lousy ones. |
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Quoted: Excellent post. Especially, in the current seas of lousy ones. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've seen a few articles quoting someone from NORAD I believe talking about how they recently adjusted the filters. Basically our radars were set to not show anything moving below a certain speed, getting rid of garbage returns and reducing clutter on the screen. If these are air defense radars they probably weren't interested in anything flying slower than an aircraft or ICBM would be. Now they opened up the gate and boom, tons of unidentified contacts. Especially, in the current seas of lousy ones. I was also thinking about the story of the earlier balloon incursions being identified after the fact. I have a feeling they were identified from emissions collections. Since we have a certain incursion from that first Chinese balloon I bet the emissions coming from it looked familiar and that's when they correlated that this has happened before and attributed previously unidentified emissions to earlier incursions. I also bet that expedited opening up the filters. |
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Quoted: I was also thinking about the story of the earlier balloon incursions being identified after the fact. I have a feeling they were identified from emissions collections. Since we have a certain incursion from that first Chinese balloon I bet the emissions coming from it looked familiar and that's when they correlated that this has happened before and attributed previously unidentified emissions to earlier incursions. I also bet that expedited opening up the filters. View Quote Or they are just lying. |
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Quoted: I was also thinking about the story of the earlier balloon incursions being identified after the fact. I have a feeling they were identified from emissions collections. Since we have a certain incursion from that first Chinese balloon I bet the emissions coming from it looked familiar and that's when they correlated that this has happened before and attributed previously unidentified emissions to earlier incursions. I also bet that expedited opening up the filters. View Quote |
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