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Quoted: It was "cylindrical" and "silverish grey," ABC's Martha Raddatz was told. ABC News Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz first reported that when fighters were scrambled, the pilots did visuals, got images and said there was no sign the object had propulsion. It was described as "cylindrical and silver-ish gray" and seemed to be floating, a U.S. official said. Asked if was "balloon-like," the official said, "All I say is that it wasn't 'flying' with any sort of propulsion, so if that is 'balloon-like' well -- we just don't have enough at this point." View Quote |
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Quoted: Why would they want PedoPeter to look good? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Amazing how much space that dude has in your head rent free. Is it possible that this is another Chinese intelligence gathering attempt? Misidentified weather balloon or amateur radio balloon like someone else already posed? Seems more likely than Russia sending a drone for us to shoot down intentionally so the president "looks good". |
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Sounding more and more like it was possibly a NWS balloon now. Over reaction on the part of NORAD as a knee jerk to the intel balloon honestly.
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Quoted: Quoted: Sounding more and more like it was possibly a NWS balloon now. Over reaction on the part of NORAD as a knee jerk to the intel balloon honestly. https://twitter.com/wildweatherdan/status/1624161750814711826?s=20
So these balloons are designed to transmit on their way up to 100k feet then pop and fall back to earth. Two are launched daily from Nome Alaska. One stopped transmitting data after only transmitting 100mb which apparently is unusual. That is what I am gathering from those tweets, I have no idea what the expected amount of data is though. The dude tweeting is a meteorologist. |
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Quoted: https://twitter.com/wildweatherdan/status/1624161750814711826?s=20
So these balloons are designed to transmit on their way up to 100k feet then pop and fall back to earth. Two are launched daily from Nome Alaska. One stopped transmitting data after only transmitting 100mb which apparently is unusual. That is what I am gathering from those tweets, I have no idea what the expected amount of data is though. The dude tweeting is a meteorologist. View Quote SOOO...... ,they possibly shot down a locally launched weather balloon ? Shapes don't match, so questionable . |
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Quoted: SOOO...... ,they possibly shot down a locally launched weather balloon ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://twitter.com/wildweatherdan/status/1624161750814711826?s=20
So these balloons are designed to transmit on their way up to 100k feet then pop and fall back to earth. Two are launched daily from Nome Alaska. One stopped transmitting data after only transmitting 100mb which apparently is unusual. That is what I am gathering from those tweets, I have no idea what the expected amount of data is though. The dude tweeting is a meteorologist. SOOO...... ,they possibly shot down a locally launched weather balloon ? Yes that is a possibility. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://twitter.com/wildweatherdan/status/1624161750814711826?s=20
So these balloons are designed to transmit on their way up to 100k feet then pop and fall back to earth. Two are launched daily from Nome Alaska. One stopped transmitting data after only transmitting 100mb which apparently is unusual. That is what I am gathering from those tweets, I have no idea what the expected amount of data is though. The dude tweeting is a meteorologist. SOOO...... ,they possibly shot down a locally launched weather balloon ? Yes that is a possibility. |
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So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that.
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Quoted: So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. View Quote It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? |
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View Quote "Ryder said American pilots who flew alongside the latest object before it was downed determined that no human was aboard. He added it was incapable of maneuvering and did not resemble an airplane" Exactly how does a jet flying at a speed of hundreds of miles per hour fly "alongside" of an object with no propulsion? |
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So in the span of a week, our fighter jets have shot down two airborne craft inside the boundary of the USA.
When's the last time something similar has occurred? WWII? |
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Quoted: So in the span of a week, our fighter jets have shot down two airborne craft inside the boundary of the USA. When's the last time something similar has occurred? WWII? View Quote WW2, a P-63 shot down a japanese ballon bomb over the continental US-Nevada. Attached File |
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What if there are millions of balloons to be released?
Like a balloon Banzai charge? |
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We need to fire an awful lot of people in the federal government.
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Quoted: It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? Considering commercial airliners fly at 40,000 feet & given the technology we have I find it hard to believe that they don’t know exactly what they were shooting down. But that’s just my opinion |
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Quoted: Amazing how much space that dude has in your head rent free. Is it possible that this is another Chinese intelligence gathering attempt? Misidentified weather balloon or amateur radio balloon like someone else already posed? Seems more likely than Russia sending a drone for us to shoot down intentionally so the president "looks good". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Could be Russian Why would they want PedoPeter to look good? Amazing how much space that dude has in your head rent free. Is it possible that this is another Chinese intelligence gathering attempt? Misidentified weather balloon or amateur radio balloon like someone else already posed? Seems more likely than Russia sending a drone for us to shoot down intentionally so the president "looks good". I was arguing against it being Russian, thanks for reading. |
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Quoted: Considering commercial airliners fly at 40,000 feet & given the technology we have I find it hard to believe that they don’t know exactly what they were shooting down. But that’s just my opinion View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? Considering commercial airliners fly at 40,000 feet & given the technology we have I find it hard to believe that they don’t know exactly what they were shooting down. But that’s just my opinion I guess identifying something as NOT a commercial airliner, NOT a US military asset, NOT responding, NOT manned, and inside our controlled airspace is identification enough in my mind. Not trying to be argumentative or anything, just offering a different perspective. I don't see the need or possibility for 100% verification of an item when you're limited to radar return and visual observation at high speed and 40k feet altitude if you're able to rule the things it isn't. Even if it ends up being an errant weather service balloon from Nome that malfunctioned. I wouldn't expect an intelligence gathering platform to be announcing its presence and identity. |
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Quoted: I guess identifying something as NOT a commercial airliner, NOT a US military asset, NOT responding, NOT manned, and inside our controlled airspace is identification enough in my mind. Not trying to be argumentative or anything, just offering a different perspective. I don't see the need or possibility for 100% verification of an item when you're limited to radar return and visual observation at high speed and 40k feet altitude if you're able to rule the things it isn't. Even if it ends up being an errant weather service balloon from Nome that malfunctioned. I wouldn't expect an intelligence gathering platform to be announcing its presence and identity. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? Considering commercial airliners fly at 40,000 feet & given the technology we have I find it hard to believe that they don’t know exactly what they were shooting down. But that’s just my opinion I guess identifying something as NOT a commercial airliner, NOT a US military asset, NOT responding, NOT manned, and inside our controlled airspace is identification enough in my mind. Not trying to be argumentative or anything, just offering a different perspective. I don't see the need or possibility for 100% verification of an item when you're limited to radar return and visual observation at high speed and 40k feet altitude if you're able to rule the things it isn't. Even if it ends up being an errant weather service balloon from Nome that malfunctioned. I wouldn't expect an intelligence gathering platform to be announcing its presence and identity. To be clear, I have no problem with us shooting it down. I just want to know what it is. |
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Ok it's been what, 7 hours since shooting "the object" down.
And nobody is any the wiser (outside of the government) on what the fuck it is. Everything I'm reading says no surveillance onboard, not a balloon, unknown origin, flying at 40,000ft, no propulsion. What the fuck is that then |
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Quoted: Ok it's been what, 7 hours since shooting "the object" down. And nobody is any the wiser (outside of the government) on what the fuck it is. Everything I'm reading says no surveillance onboard, not a balloon, unknown origin, flying at 40,000ft, no propulsion. What the fuck is that then View Quote That is a good question, I had assumed a small balloon because they didn't mention it was aerodynamic in shape , a flying cylinder w/ no propulsion, wth . We know nothing . |
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Quoted: Ok it's been what, 7 hours since shooting "the object" down. And nobody is any the wiser (outside of the government) on what the fuck it is. Everything I'm reading says no surveillance onboard, not a balloon, unknown origin, flying at 40,000ft, no propulsion. What the fuck is that then View Quote Either something embarrassing to admit or they destroyed it prior to actually determining what it was? |
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Quoted: What if there are millions of balloons to be released? Like a balloon Banzai charge? View Quote This is really good, the History Guy never disappoints, but one of the things I was most amazed by was the staggering number of balloons released every day Shootin' Balloons: A History |
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Quoted: Quite possibly a NOAA weather balloon, which would explain why they're so close-lipped about it: they need the time to write up a story and identify a fall guy. View Quote Nah, they'll call it what it is if that ends up being the case. I don't think a fall guy is necessary either. I think they're just recovering shit that blew up at 40k feet and fell to the ground in a remote location for analysis. We already see the overactive imaginations at work because they gave a brief an hour after the shootdown with the information they had at the time. Now we have people picking it apart because someone said "flew alongside" instead of "next to" or something, and the dude who saw it didn't use the word "balloon" so they didn't brief "balloon" and suddenly when they recover balloon debris it's a conspiracy. We'll hear something. If it is a NWS weather balloon that is what we will hear, and it'll be before Monday. |
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Quoted: This is really good, the History Guy never disappoints, but one of the things I was most amazed by was the staggering number of balloons released every day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqC9ICdfhQM View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What if there are millions of balloons to be released? Like a balloon Banzai charge? This is really good, the History Guy never disappoints, but one of the things I was most amazed by was the staggering number of balloons released every day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqC9ICdfhQM If a billion chinese built a million balloons and 1% contained nukes and the rest were decoys that would be 10,000 nukes floating into the USA or 200 EMP airbursts over each state. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I've worked in both the Arctic and Antarctic and I can assure you the risk is far overstated. The sled dogs almost never become infected with alien creatures from crashed UFO's, which run around eating scientists. They only eat the slow ones, and Prof. Domack was a prick anyway |
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Quoted: If a billion chinese built a million balloons and 1% contained nukes and the rest were decoys that would be 10,000 nukes floating into the USA or 200 EMP airbursts over each state. View Quote Heck at this point I think they could send over a dozen balloons full of nothing and we'd shut the country down. They'll probably do that first just for entertainment value, then they'll do a balloon banzai. |
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I wonder if china’s tic tac squadron is operational. Maybe we finally shot one down.
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I hope the CCP executes the man responsible for this fiasco and reeducates his entire family and all the people he has dinner parties with on the weekends.
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I jumped the gun. Amateur radio community was wrong. K9YO-15 was just picked up again.
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Quoted: The type of balloons NWS offices use for soundings aren't cylindrical, aren't silver and they are also not the size of a car. https://www.gannett-cdn.com/authoring/2017/09/05/NSJR/ghows-LS-54158573-1a47-51fa-e053-0100007fa882-d37647ab.jpeg?width=660&height=429&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp And since they are released on a daily basis by NWS offices nationwide, they also aren't anything uncommon. Pretty much anyone with a meteorological or aviation background would be thoroughly familiar with a weather balloon. So whatever this device was, it was probably something just a little out of the ordinary. View Quote Do those balloons stay the same size at all altitudes? Do they look differently if they expand? Does weather change how things look at 40k feet? |
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