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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:20:19 PM EDT
[#1]
Go on. I need a new truck in a few years. I am unsure if I am going to buy or lease. If I buy a truck it will have a v8.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:20:37 PM EDT
[#2]
Interesting!!!!
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:22:31 PM EDT
[#3]
Ford 2015 - "Haha it's not 1961 Grandpa! All anyone could ever want is a little Vee-six!"
Ford 2020 - "WE HEARD YOU LIKE DISPLACEMENT" Ford F-150 Tremor with a 6.8L V8 in it would be amazing, holy fuck. Enough so to make me think real hard about trading in my truck that had zero intention on ever selling.  What a time to be alive. So many choices from the truck makers, and a lot of them are really fucking good. Assuming this is true (And we don't know if it is) - I wonder if Detroit is thinking Orangeman might win this, and thusly CAFE standards might get kneecapped. They might be responding to that. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:25:48 PM EDT
[#4]
That would be cool to have a second v8 option.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:26:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Just wait...pushrods will now be the best thing ever. Fucking Ford fanboys are a scourge.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:26:40 PM EDT
[#6]
Next stop $4.0 gasoline to match these new engines. But yea fuck small displacement engines for doing truck things. Going to keep rocking my 5.0 for awhile longer. I am sure Ford will fuck with it though and give us lovely features like cylinder deactivation and engine shut off to go with it.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:27:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ford 2015 - "Haha it's not 1961 Grandpa! All anyone could ever want is a little Vee-six!" Ford 2020 - "WE HEARD YOU LIKE DISPLACEMENT" Ford F-150 Tremor with a 6.8L V8 in it would be amazing, holy fuck. Enough so to make me think real hard about trading in my truck that had zero intention on ever selling. What a time to be alive. So many choices from the truck makers, and a lot of them are really fucking good. Assuming this is true (And we don't know if it is) - I wonder if Detroit is thinking Orangeman might win this, and thusly CAFE standards might get kneecapped. They might be responding to that. Forced induction version of this engine and coil rear suspension in next get Raptor. You know Ford has been sitting on plans for 10 years of what to do when someone comes out with a raptor competitor. Wonder if they would ever do long trailing arm independent rear like sport SxS? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:28:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Fords been hitting it out of the park lately.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:30:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Let’s not also forget about Fords recent CEO change. Farley is a car guy;)
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:30:28 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Next stop $4.0 gasoline to match these new engines. But yea fuck small displacement engines for doing truck things. Going to keep rocking my 5.0 for awhile longer. I am sure Ford will fuck with it though and give us lovely features like cylinder deactivation and engine shut off to go with it. I eliminated start/stop along with a few other undesirable things with a $15 cable and a free program. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:30:31 PM EDT
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The future is now, ecoboost fanboys.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:31:03 PM EDT
[#12]
Alright...put this in the Expedition...Ford Folks...and we're buying one...(Lord willing of course)...
YeeeeHaaaa! |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:31:34 PM EDT
[#13]
So a downsize Godzilla engine.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:31:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Why 7.3 and 6.8 gas?
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:31:59 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fords been hitting it out of the park lately. I bet this puppy will end up in a Bronco down the line... |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:32:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So a downsize Godzilla engine. Yes |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:32:31 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait...pushrods will now be the best thing ever. Fucking Ford fanboys are a scourge. People that hate everything are exhausting. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:33:08 PM EDT
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Large displacement engines with modern heads and injection systems would mean BIG power. This appeals to me.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:33:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait...pushrods will now be the best thing ever. Fucking Ford fanboys are a scourge. Yeah it sucks when a company gives their customers choices. ETA: Also, would you rather they were nearly 100% focused on making oversized Powerwheels like GM, or developing kick-ass new gas engines? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:33:48 PM EDT
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Does this mark the end of EcoBoost? If so, that kinda sucks because that's one of the reasons I bought an F150. 2.7 liters is one thing, but just imagine what a 6.8 would make with twin turbos. I bet Ford could get the emissions down to legal levels if they really tried.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:34:00 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why 7.3 and 6.8 gas? they are narrow? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:34:00 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So a downsize Godzilla engine. Yes They could make it aluminum also |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:35:33 PM EDT
[#23]
But why?
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:35:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: they are narrow? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why 7.3 and 6.8 gas? they are narrow? Yeah, Coyote's downfall will be how fucking massive it is. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:37:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait...pushrods will now be the best thing ever. Fucking Ford fanboys are a scourge. The 4.9L (pushrod) inline six, E4OD transmission, manual locking hubs, and limited slip was the best combo I've ever owned in a truck Love, Scourge  |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:37:58 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I eliminated start/stop along with a few other undesirable things with a $15 cable and a free program. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Next stop $4.0 gasoline to match these new engines. But yea fuck small displacement engines for doing truck things. Going to keep rocking my 5.0 for awhile longer. I am sure Ford will fuck with it though and give us lovely features like cylinder deactivation and engine shut off to go with it. I eliminated start/stop along with a few other undesirable things with a $15 cable and a free program. All you had to do was pull a plug under the dash, $0. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:39:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Put a V8 in the new Bronco
Put a V8 in the new Bronco Put a V8 in the new Bronco Put a V8 in the new Bronco |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:43:13 PM EDT
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But the Coyote is a great engine? What's the reason for going to this new engine?
Also, how awkward it must be after all the smack talk about GM v8's still using pushrods....only to return to them. P.S. GM = King of pushrod tech. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it sucks when a company gives their customers choices. OHC because pushrods are so old. SFA because death wobble isn't a thing and my fteenthousand needs articulation, small displacement turbos because its the future, that fucked up high pressure oil injection system on diesels, now HotV turbo setups....now we're circling back to pushrod engines in sports cars and it will be awesome... Ok. I agree. Pushrod V8s are the titties..welcome to always. Maybe I'm just grumpy today but humanity is making me tired |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:44:52 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, Coyote's downfall will be how fucking massive it is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why 7.3 and 6.8 gas? they are narrow? Yeah, Coyote's downfall will be how fucking massive it is. Wonder if it'll fit into the Ford Warthog? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:44:56 PM EDT
[#31]
Call me skeptical about the engine going in the 150s and Mustangs in any appreciable fashion. Ford's future is electric, they just broke ground on a gazillion dollar electric plant for '22. It may replace the 5.0, but it won't go in the Raptor. The Raptor is about highlighting the tech and what that is and modernize. Every next gen Raptor they have spotted testing as a distinct V6 sound. Ferrari is going V6 in the F series lineup. With Rivian, GMC and Tesla coming out with pure electric trucks, the Mach E "Mustang", they aren't going backwards. I just cannot see that as a business model
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:47:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Call me skeptical about the engine going in the 150s and Mustangs in any appreciable fashion. Ford's future is electric, they just broke ground on a gazillion dollar electric plant for '22. It may replace the 5.0, but it won't go in the Raptor. The Raptor is about highlighting the tech and what that is and modernize. Every next gen Raptor they have spotted testing as a distinct V6 sound. Ferrari is going V6 in the F series lineup. With Rivian, GMC and Tesla coming out with pure electric trucks, the Mach E "Mustang", they aren't going backwards. I just cannot see that as a business model https://www.thedrive.com/news/35890/2021-ford-f-150-raptor-will-have-700-hp-supercharged-v8-from-mustang-gt500-report  New 2022 Ford Raptor F-150 First Video! V8 Engine Sound Heard?! |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:48:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, Coyote's downfall will be how fucking massive it is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why 7.3 and 6.8 gas? they are narrow? Yeah, Coyote's downfall will be how fucking massive it is. It's the reason GM kept a pushrod engine in the C7. Lighter weight. (Good for performance) Simpler engine (tends to be a positive for reliability, though DOHC is totally reliable) Smaller engine (also tends to be good for performance) Lower cost to manufacture (good for everyone?) Allowed them to have a lower hood line, so that netted them better aero, lower center of gravity, also allowed the engine to be moved back closer to the firewall and that fact plus it weighing less gave the car a better front to rear weight distribution. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:51:02 PM EDT
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Another example of how ford is killing it. Nothing in that article mentions "short deck" 7.3 block. If it is the same block as the 7.3, sans alloy. You should be able to swap 7.3 rotating assemblies into the aluminum block. Much like the 360,390,427's back in the day. That my friends is amazing. I believe Ford has finally declared war on the "LS swap the world" fanboys.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:51:18 PM EDT
[#35]
An aluminum block 6.8 for the F150, Mustang and new Bronco seems like a logical choice for some folks.
That said, my next truck will be an F250 with the 7.3L. I have no need for a diesel truck or a gasser with turbo. I am in no hurry, and want to see how the 7.3L does in the real world after a year or so. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:57:15 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The 4.9L (pushrod) inline six, E4OD transmission, manual locking hubs, and limited slip was the best combo I've ever owned in a truck Love, Scourge https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/43446/f150_2-1492766.jpg  Attached FileRight on. 300 ci straight six Stopped making it because it never dies. Great torque, power and gas mileage. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:58:14 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait...pushrods will now be the best thing ever. Fucking Ford fanboys are a scourge. Let me guess...Jeep owner? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:01:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another example of how ford is killing it. Nothing in that article mentions "short deck" 7.3 block. If it is the same block as the 7.3, sans alloy. You should be able to swap 7.3 rotating assemblies into the aluminum block. Much like the 360,390,427's back in the day. That my friends is amazing. I believe Ford has finally declared war on the "LS swap the world" fanboys. Except with aftermarket support like Holley's Sniper EFI there will never be any war.  I like choices. Ford and Dodge are really leaving GM in the dust with all the configurations that are being brought out. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:02:35 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An aluminum block 6.8 for the F150, Mustang and new Bronco seems like a logical choice for some folks. That said, my next truck will be an F250 with the 7.3L. I have no need for a diesel truck or a gasser with turbo. I am in no hurry, and want to see how the 7.3L does in the real world after a year or so. Every f450 or 550 up here owned by the utilities are gas. Ups and fedex went to gas. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:08:49 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Call me skeptical about the engine going in the 150s and Mustangs in any appreciable fashion. Ford's future is electric, they just broke ground on a gazillion dollar electric plant for '22. It may replace the 5.0, but it won't go in the Raptor. The Raptor is about highlighting the tech and what that is and modernize. Every next gen Raptor they have spotted testing as a distinct V6 sound. Ferrari is going V6 in the F series lineup. With Rivian, GMC and Tesla coming out with pure electric trucks, the Mach E "Mustang", they aren't going backwards. I just cannot see that as a business model I don't disagree, but if it's not going in the Mustang and F150 what's the point of developing the engine? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:09:11 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The future is now, ecoboost fanboys. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:10:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/341059/Fordstraight6_jpg-1662430.JPG Right on. 300 ci straight six Stopped making it because it never dies. Great torque, power and gas mileage. The 300 straight 6 is my all time favorite in the F150, but great gas mileage was not one of the reasons why at all. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:18:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why 7.3 and 6.8 gas? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:19:02 PM EDT
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I am a fan of old school pushrod engines. The mix of better materials and engineering, along with pushrod simplicity, is a win for the buyer.
And V8 power is best power, FTW!!! |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:20:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But why? Because more power is better. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:20:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:21:51 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All you had to do was pull a plug under the dash, $0. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Next stop $4.0 gasoline to match these new engines. But yea fuck small displacement engines for doing truck things. Going to keep rocking my 5.0 for awhile longer. I am sure Ford will fuck with it though and give us lovely features like cylinder deactivation and engine shut off to go with it. I eliminated start/stop along with a few other undesirable things with a $15 cable and a free program. All you had to do was pull a plug under the dash, $0. True but there were several other changes I made to the factory programming while I was at it. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:23:08 PM EDT
[#48]
Woohoo!
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:23:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But the Coyote is a great engine? What's the reason for going to this new engine? Also, how awkward it must be after all the smack talk about GM v8's still using pushrods....only to return to them. P.S. GM = King of pushrod tech. Probably no more awkward than GM going to aluminum body panels after all that smack talk against them. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:24:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why 7.3 and 6.8 gas? Diesel emissions requirements, particularly the DEF portion, are not popular features of vehicle design or ownership. Gas engines get around that much easier. |
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