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So tell me if I have this right. Akins sent in a SKS in a prototype stock that was broken and did not function as intended. ATF said as supplied it was not a machine gun and sent it back. Akins then built his 10/22 version and started selling it without ever sending it to ATF for approval. ATF then ruled it a no go and he had to recall them or do his spacer spring fix whatever. That is what I remember reading and if true makes Akins a really poor example. People constantly bring it up as a example but in my opinion it was totally his fault and not the other way around. Our crap laws continue to be crap but if my understanding is correct he screwed the pooch. View Quote I could go into why, but that is not material to the conversation at hand. You think putting forth a documented example of DOJ You think that is not a "good" point to bring forth? Ayn Rand unfortunately was prophetic: "The stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission." "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them." |
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"Rubber ban" is misspelled on pg. 11. Should be "rubber band". Not trying to be a nitpicker but this is very important to all of us and it should be as correct as possible. I'm sure anyone reading it would understand the author's intent but it doesn't look good. View Quote |
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Don't tell anyone this. I am actually human and make typos. But, don't worry about that, because in a few days we will drop something shiny and new!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Rubber ban" is misspelled on pg. 11. Should be "rubber band". Not trying to be a nitpicker but this is very important to all of us and it should be as correct as possible. I'm sure anyone reading it would understand the author's intent but it doesn't look good. |
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We are either a nation of laws or we aren’t. We need to know sooner rather that later. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sweet Jesus.... "as purported acting Attorney General" 84. Defendant acting Attorney General Whitaker’s appointment violated 28 USC § 508(a) as he was not the Deputy Attorney General when Attorney General Sessions resigned. 85. Acting Attorney General Whitaker signed the Final Rule, and because his appointment is unlawful under § 508(a), the Final Rule is of no force and effect because acting Attorney General Whitaker has no authority to exercise the powers of the office he purports to hold. |
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Quoted: Been absent social media for a while, how/why did you get banned? View Quote |
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IIRC the number of .38 cal pellets in 00Buck is 13. 13xX rounds in a semi-auto shotgun far exceeds the rate of fire of any current NFA registered machine gun. I put this in my comment to the ATF during the comment period. Any chance this bit of info might be used to support the case for NOLO?
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IIRC the number of .38 cal pellets in 00Buck is 13. 13xX rounds in a semi-auto shotgun far exceeds the rate of fire of any current NFA registered machine gun. I put this in my comment to the ATF during the comment period. Any chance this bit of info might be used to support the case for NOLO? View Quote |
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IIRC the number of .38 cal pellets in 00Buck is 13. 13xX rounds in a semi-auto shotgun far exceeds the rate of fire of any current NFA registered machine gun. I put this in my comment to the ATF during the comment period. Any chance this bit of info might be used to support the case for NOLO? View Quote |
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Do you really want to spend Mr. LaRues money fighting the NRA?
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Do you really want to spend Mr. LaRues money fighting the NRA? View Quote can just change the law by edict......even if I voted for him. He won't be President forever, and our opponents won't think twice about capitalizing on that precedent. |
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Not reasons given so I’ll offer my educated guess. Ironically I got suspended back in November for retweeting the DSA assholes account the night they showed up at Tucker Carlson’s house. I was pointing out their threats of violence and trying to get the word out about what was happening. Also, ironic those assholes are back on Twitter again after 2 suspensions this year but I’m still suspended View Quote |
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Quoted: It's run by a bunch of liberal shitbags, so of course they'll give favors to their kind. After the election I pretty much dropped social media, with the rare exception of checking Facebook for special events. Even that's down to 1-2 times a month. View Quote |
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Quoted: Don’t tell anyone this. I am actually human and make typos. But, don’t worry about that, because in a few days we will drop something shiny and new!!! View Quote Side note: I wish there was a way to @ a group of people on here. Like, we could sign up to a group, like Nolo's fan club, and Nolo could then @ the group and everybody that joined would get a notification. Would something like that be possible? Is there a way to submit a request like that? |
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I read through the lawsuit filing link posted on here and overall, it was pretty good. However the parts about questioning whether the rifles in the hotel room, all equipped with bump stocks, were even used in the Las Vegas massacre seemed a whole lot of conspiracy theory. That alone may cause a judge not on the side of the 2nd to nix it.
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I read through the lawsuit filing link posted on here and overall, it was pretty good. However the parts about questioning whether the rifles in the hotel room, all equipped with bump stocks, were even used in the Las Vegas massacre seemed a whole lot of conspiracy theory. That alone may cause a judge not on the side of the 2nd to nix it. View Quote |
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With the small amount of information that has been released, the question begs to be asked, the whole basis for this illegal order to change the rule is based on those guns actually being used. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I read through the lawsuit filing link posted on here and overall, it was pretty good. However the parts about questioning whether the rifles in the hotel room, all equipped with bump stocks, were even used in the Las Vegas massacre seemed a whole lot of conspiracy theory. That alone may cause a judge not on the side of the 2nd to nix it. |
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I read through the lawsuit filing link posted on here and overall, it was pretty good. However the parts about questioning whether the rifles in the hotel room, all equipped with bump stocks, were even used in the Las Vegas massacre seemed a whole lot of conspiracy theory. That alone may cause a judge not on the side of the 2nd to nix it. View Quote Surely we're done with that argument here by now... Me, I'm anxiously awaiting an update on the ever increasing number of pending legal suits on this one.. |
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In order for the government to properly address that point, they would have to provide information. Something that they have apparently been reluctant to do, for some reason. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I read through the lawsuit filing link posted on here and overall, it was pretty good. However the parts about questioning whether the rifles in the hotel room, all equipped with bump stocks, were even used in the Las Vegas massacre seemed a whole lot of conspiracy theory. That alone may cause a judge not on the side of the 2nd to nix it. Ask yourself why? If they were used we would have been inundated with photos, video, reports, and DOJ experts explaining to every camera they could find.....Not to mention how the press would have ran with the "proof"... If there is anything I have learned from dealing with .gov , firearms, and court cases; When they don't present the obvious evidence, there is a reason. ALWAYS. Go read page 60 of the published rule and get back to us.....They all but admit they were not used. FBI even when sued in federal court would rather ignore the law than give you that evidence means that they fear the evidence more than the judge's wrath. They are hiding something. Nolo has a map and shovel. |
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Ask yourself why? If they were used we would have been inundated with photos, video, reports, and DOJ experts explaining to every camera they could find.....Not to mention how the press would have ran with the "proof"... If there is anything I have learned from dealing with .gov , firearms, and court cases; When they don't present the obvious evidence, there is a reason. ALWAYS. Go read page 60 of the published rule and get back to us.....They all but admit they were not used. FBI even when sued in federal court would rather ignore the law than give you that evidence means that they fear the evidence more than the judge's wrath. They are hiding something. Nolo has a map and shovel. View Quote |
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Fine, then providing evidence should not be a problem?
Also I would not be too convinced of audio....Having been on set when firearms were used in filming. What you "heard" on TV is nothing like what was heard on set. So much so they have people on set who do nothing but audio. Ever wonder why they did a reveal not near any reflective surface (and always in the woods, swamp, open areas). Concrete and glass canyons tell me not to trust shit audio recorded mostly by cell phone. Flat reflective surfaces everywhere and echo's that sure sounded like more than one gun firing....But hey if your convinced I guess we should not enquire to see the evidence? It's entirely possible they were used (or were present, but used only as a butt stock). It does not change the fact that ATF currently claims to NOT have examined the firearms (We both know that's BS). Why would ATF refuse to officially examine firearms that are directly related to a policy/rule/edict that the acting ATF director told congress would end up in court? |
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Good. It's time for the left to draw first fudd blood. So far, they've been on the sidelines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Fine, then providing evidence should not be a problem? Also I would not be too convinced of audio....Having been on set when firearms were used in filming. What you "heard" on TV is nothing like what was heard on set. So much so they have people on set who do nothing but audio. Ever wonder why they did a reveal not near any reflective surface (and always in the woods, swamp, open areas). Concrete and glass canyons tell me not to trust shit audio recorded mostly by cell phone. Flat reflective surfaces everywhere and echo's that sure sounded like more than one gun firing....But hey if your convinced I guess we should not enquire to see the evidence? It's entirely possible they were used (or were present, but used only as a butt stock). It does not change the fact that ATF currently claims to NOT have examined the firearms (We both know that's BS). Why would ATF refuse to officially examine firearms that are directly related to a policy/rule/edict that the acting ATF director told congress would end up in court? View Quote While I've got no problem with asking the ATF to make a full report, you shouldn't expect them to find he didn't utilize a bump stock. Personally, I've done a decent amount of full auto shooting on many different platforms. I've also shot a lot of bumpstock equipped rifles. The audio clearly shows the use of bumpstock(s) through the varying cadence. It doesn't just ramp up speed through a belt lightening. Here is a video with all the gunfire put together in chronological order. You can clearly hear the varying tempo in several bursts. It sounds like a bumpstock does when varying forward pressure is applied. Mapping the Las Vegas Massacre | NYT - Visual Investigations |
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