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Posted: 9/29/2022 10:57:34 PM EDT
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Examine Biden's work product since he's been president for the answer:
1) Steals the election while eating ice cream in the comfort of his basement. 2) Tries to mandate a sketchy and dangerous vax on everyone in America. 3) Cuts and runs from Afghanistan abandoning Americans and leaving enough weapons behind to start WW3. 4) Floods the USA with millions of illegal aliens and fentanyl. 5) Prints money like crazy which will create a huge recession/depression in America before the end of 2023. 6) Uses federal law enforcement to harass, persecute and arrest political opponents. 7) Vilifies half of America, threatens them with the military and suggests they will need F-15's to defeat him. 8) Threatens to end the Nordstream pipelines. Did I miss anything? Now is there anything there that suggests Biden is the type of personality to commit terrorism, crime or an act of war? |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:06:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine. (at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2 How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines? Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 28 pages and still no evidence to support any of the various statements that claim whodunit. Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine. (at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2 How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines? Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame. Biden can’t shut up I’m sure the IC cringes |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:09:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Examine Biden's work product since he's been president for the answer: 1) Steals the election while eating ice cream in the comfort of his basement. 2) Tries to mandate a sketchy and dangerous vax on everyone in America. 3) Cuts and runs from Afghanistan abandoning Americans and leaving enough weapons behind to start WW3. 4) Floods the USA with millions of illegal aliens and fentanyl. 5) Prints money like crazy which will create a huge recession/depression in America before the end of 2023. 6) Uses federal law enforcement to harass, persecute and arrest political opponents. 7) Vilifies half of America, threatens them with the military and suggests they will need F-15's to defeat him. 8) Threatens to end the Nordstream pipelines. Did I miss anything? Now is there anything there that suggests Biden is the type of personality to commit terrorism, crime or an act of war? Add rhat he is surrounded by misanthropic commies who would love a war |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:22:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Deniability for one. Also, there is no evidence that Russia did this. There's no evidence they didn't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can the "who done it" be narrowed down by process of elimination? I'm guessing only a few nation state's have the resources and technology to carry out such a mission. Being a SCUBA diver, I didn't realize it was so easy to dive so deep and blow something up! Almost 2,000 oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. Won't be pretty if this becomes commonplace. Sure. Easy peasy. Might take some special training, you think? I have many SCUBA certifications but missed the BUD/S one. Besides, he made it sound like Jacques Cousteau was blowing up U-boats in 1942. And now DIY mini-subs! And that pipeline is so easy to fix after being dynamited! Some people ought to just stick to hating on Trump. LMAO. I'm a rec diver too and it isn't anything I'd do, but I know a couple of rig divers/welders and the one I spoke with didn't think it was a big deal from the dive standpoint. The not being detected is probably the biggest issue. Why would Russia use rec divers OR rig divers?  Deniability for one. Also, there is no evidence that Russia did this. There's no evidence they didn't. Of course there is. We just don’t see it…yet They have tons of motive and access |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:24:40 PM EDT
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First of all biden can't walk up a airline gangway without falling on his face muchless an attack on a stationary oil pipeline.
What did the libtards think when they voted for this crim inal treasonous demented career criminal that he'd get BETTER? |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:24:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Examine Biden's work product since he's been president for the answer: 1) Steals the election while eating ice cream in the comfort of his basement. 2) Tries to mandate a sketchy and dangerous vax on everyone in America. 3) Cuts and runs from Afghanistan abandoning Americans and leaving enough weapons behind to start WW3. 4) Floods the USA with millions of illegal aliens and fentanyl. 5) Prints money like crazy which will create a huge recession/depression in America before the end of 2023. 6) Uses federal law enforcement to harass, persecute and arrest political opponents. 7) Vilifies half of America, threatens them with the military and suggests they will need F-15's to defeat him. 8) Threatens to end the Nordstream pipelines. Did I miss anything? Now is there anything there that suggests Biden is the type of personality to commit terrorism, crime or an act of war? 1-7 do kinda make it seem like he hates us. but you can be absolutely certain that in this case he not only has the correct opinion, he's looking out for America's best interest. because if we know anything about the federal gov particularly the crew in charge now, they put America First only a putin puppet would dare accuse our political class of selling this country out for something that only benefits themselves and not the people that elected them |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:26:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First of all biden can't walk up a airline gangway without falling on his face muchless an attack on a stationary oil pipeline. What did the libtards think when they voted for this crim inal treasonous demented career criminal that he'd get BETTER? Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance? |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:30:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance? Biden has the same job as Ronald McDonald. And has an equal amount of say of what goes on. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:48:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: First of all biden can't walk up a airline gangway without falling on his face muchless an attack on a stationary oil pipeline. What did the libtards think when they voted for this crim inal treasonous demented career criminal that he'd get BETTER? Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance? I'm thinking narcissistic dotard, sociopathic, demented delegator.
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:51:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine. (at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2 How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines? Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 28 pages and still no evidence to support any of the various statements that claim whodunit. Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine. (at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2 How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines? Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame. One minute Biden is shitting his own pants and doesn't know what month it is, the next we're assuming something he said 7 months ago means we blew up a pipeline today. Which is it? |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:55:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One minute Biden is shitting his own pants and doesn't know what month it is, the next we're assuming something he said 7 months ago means we blew up a pipeline today. Which is it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 28 pages and still no evidence to support any of the various statements that claim whodunit. Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine. (at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2 How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines? Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame. One minute Biden is shitting his own pants and doesn't know what month it is, the next we're assuming something he said 7 months ago means we blew up a pipeline today. Which is it? Good point. Assuming Biden's mouth and anus operate independently is a stretch. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:58:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good point. Assuming Biden's mouth and anus operate independently is a stretch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 28 pages and still no evidence to support any of the various statements that claim whodunit. Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine. (at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2 How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines? Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame. One minute Biden is shitting his own pants and doesn't know what month it is, the next we're assuming something he said 7 months ago means we blew up a pipeline today. Which is it? Good point. Assuming Biden's mouth and anus operate independently is a stretch. Look, maybe we did it. I'm not saying we didn't. I'm just saying Biden says dumb shit constantly, him saying this 7 months ago is hardly the smoking gun some think it is. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:02:12 AM EDT
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"The sabatage done to our enemies (Russia) infrastructure is a direct attack on NATO. Any further attacks on Russia's infrastructure will be met with the full force of NATO member nations militaries against Russia's infrastructure in retaliation."
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:05:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "The sabatage done to our enemies (Russia) infrastructure is a direct attack on NATO. Any further attacks on Russia's infrastructure will be met with the full force of NATO member nations militaries against Russia's infrastructure in retaliation." You should look up who financed most of “Russia’s” Nordstream infrastructure. 
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:05:34 AM EDT
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Since you guys are talking dive ops I'll ad in my anecdotal 2¢.
Many, many, many moons ago I worked for a international submersible dive operation as a diver/ technician. This story isn't about my experience but the guy's I worked with and their expertise. Some of the guys I worked with were former Navy. A SEAL, 3 EOD guys and a couple nuke techs (our gear was battery operated, hydraulic/ pneumatic, btw) Our dive master at work was this SEAL. He was a short timer (single enlistment, gunners mate) and persona non grata with the Navy. They later arrested him at work and he disappeared to Fort Is. at Pearl for a couple of months. He never said what happened. Over beers sometime later he told me when he was in, him and his friends would assassinate/ blow shit up dressed up as PLO/Hamas while running around Lebanon and Palestine. My young mind was blown. Moving on.... The 3 EOD guy's preferred form a recreation was Blue water hunting. In the channel between Oahu and Molokai lies a place called Penguin Banks. It's a large crater and at a depth of 100m is where these giant Ulua swim/ school. These crazy fucks would drift dive on heliox with spear guns, bang sticks and flares. Spear these giant fish and club them to death @ depth then start their decompression ascent. Needless to say lots of blood in the water. The pics of they had of the tiger sharks that would show up were enormous. The guy on the surface boat was armed with a 44mag Desert Eagle. One of them made the cover of Blue Water Hunter( old magazine). Regarding the nuke techs, they were very smart and odd. One was on a boomer. What's this have to do with anything? Nothing really. Does the US do stuff? Yeah. Instruments of state craft. Can men on Heliox blow up a underwater pipe line at depth? Absolutely. Thanks for reading.
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:25:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since you guys are talking dive ops I'll ad in my anecdotal 2¢. Many, many, many moons ago I worked for a international submersible dive operation as a diver/ technician. This story isn't about my experience but the guy's I worked with and their expertise. Some of the guys I worked with were former Navy. A SEAL, 3 EOD guys and a couple nuke techs (our gear was battery operated, hydraulic/ pneumatic, btw) Our dive master at work was this SEAL. He was a short timer (single enlistment, gunners mate) and persona non grata with the Navy. They later arrested him at work and he disappeared to Fort Is. at Pearl for a couple of months. He never said what happened. Over beers sometime later he told me when he was in, him and his friends would assassinate/ blow shit up dressed up as PLO/Hamas while running around Lebanon and Palestine. My young mind was blown. Moving on.... The 3 EOD guy's preferred form a recreation was Blue water hunting. In the channel between Oahu and Molokai lies a place called Penguin Banks. It's a large crater and at a depth of 100m is where these giant Ulua swim/ school. These crazy fucks would drift dive on heliox with spear guns, bang sticks and flares. Spear these giant fish and club them to death @ depth then start their decompression ascent. Needless to say lots of blood in the water. The pics of they had of the tiger sharks that would show up were enormous. The guy on the surface boat was armed with a 44mag Desert Eagle. One of them made the cover of Blue Water Hunter( old magazine). Regarding the nuke techs, they were very smart and odd. One was on a boomer. What's this have to do with anything? Nothing really. Does the US do stuff? Yeah. Instruments of state craft. Can men on Heliox blow up a underwater pipe line at depth? Absolutely. Thanks for reading. Good read. Out of all the dives I did, drift dives in Cozumel were my favorite. I think the guys that did this were specialists and military or former military. What country or sponsor behind them is the big mystery. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:26:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is difficult to tell with so many here supporting russia Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looks like a great false flag by Russia judging by how so many here want it to be blamed on America. That's just my OPINION. Don't get too upset... I am still waiting for actual facts and evidence like everyone else in the world. Russia slammed two missiles into our city at 1am. One by a large bus stop/market that didn't hurt anyone. The other in a residential neighborhood fucking up about 60+ homes. We don't know the actual death toll as they are still digging. Russia is nothing more than a terrorist state. Fuck Putin as his ball lickers. No way they would do something irrational.  "Russian forces carried out a missile strike on the city of Dnipro on the night of 28 29 September, killing at least three and injuring five civilians". https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/29/7369561/index.amp Theyd still be alive if Ukraine had simply surrendered. You mean they would still be alive if putin wasn't a sorry piece of shit terrorist and would still be alive if russia wouldn't have invaded. Stop trying to be edgy in a sad situation that you obviously know is terrible on innocent civilians, why be shitty towards an arfcom brother like that? I'm hoping he was just being sarcastic, but it's hard to tell these days. It is difficult to tell with so many here supporting russia Well, we all know Putin had to invade to get evidence from the 46 bio weapons labs that the US globalists were making Corona 2.0 because the first Corona and vaccine weren't deadly enough. Putin was also being a bro and once he got the records from Kyiv, expose Biden's "10% for the big guy". So now that we've established that Putin is the last world leader to resist the WEF, what choice did he have? So at that point, the Ukrainians fighting back (anyone fighting to the comedian/actor Zelensky) are fighting to protect the WEF/Bidens. Americans are all about narratives not details. My sarcastic comments are in line with the narratives many here claim to espouse. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:30:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine. (at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2 How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines? Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 28 pages and still no evidence to support any of the various statements that claim whodunit. Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine. (at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2 How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines? Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame. You know the answer: A lot clearer, such as if there was evidence. The lack of evidence doesn't absolve US from involvement, but it negates your claim. You are simply re-stating a claim without evidence. No argument even exists, you're not actually making one. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:37:53 AM EDT
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Wondering if the pipeline was insured.
Gas was turned off, Germany has been finding new sources, no more money to be made Russian version of a kitchen fire insurance scam? edit: yep, it was insured |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:42:06 AM EDT
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Germany was beginning to face a lot of protests to end the sanctions against Russia.
Seems to me, if the US and Germany are all in on the WEF great reset idea, then taking the pipeline off the table would advance their interests. No point in protesting against sanctions against gas that can no longer flow through a damaged pipeline. Can't have Europe happy and warm this winter if you want them miserable and desperate enough to accept global socialism. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:47:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Examine Biden's work product since he's been president for the answer: 1) Steals the election while eating ice cream in the comfort of his basement. 2) Tries to mandate a sketchy and dangerous vax on everyone in America. 3) Cuts and runs from Afghanistan abandoning Americans and leaving enough weapons behind to start WW3. 4) Floods the USA with millions of illegal aliens and fentanyl. 5) Prints money like crazy which will create a huge recession/depression in America before the end of 2023. 6) Uses federal law enforcement to harass, persecute and arrest political opponents. 7) Vilifies half of America, threatens them with the military and suggests they will need F-15's to defeat him. 8) Threatens to end the Nordstream pipelines. Did I miss anything? Now is there anything there that suggests Biden is the type of personality to commit terrorism, crime or an act of war? Give him credit where it is due, he shut done the entire #metoo movement overnight once the Tara Reade story broke. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 12:51:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know the answer: A lot clearer, such as if there was evidence. The lack of evidence doesn't absolve US from involvement, but it negates your claim. You are simply re-stating a claim without evidence. No argument even exists, you're not actually making one. Biden's statement is evidence. It's fine with me if you want to defend him. All the liberals are. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 1:06:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good read. Out of all the dives I did, drift dives in Cozumel were my favorite. I think the guys that did this were specialists and military or former military. What country or sponsor behind them is the big mystery. Yep, big mystery as to who did it. #no sarc I don't think we'll ever know definitively. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 1:13:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Examine Biden's work product since he's been president for the answer: 1) Steals the election while eating ice cream in the comfort of his basement. 2) Tries to mandate a sketchy and dangerous vax on everyone in America. 3) Cuts and runs from Afghanistan abandoning Americans and leaving enough weapons behind to start WW3. 4) Floods the USA with millions of illegal aliens and fentanyl. 5) Prints money like crazy which will create a huge recession/depression in America before the end of 2023. 6) Uses federal law enforcement to harass, persecute and arrest political opponents. 7) Vilifies half of America, threatens them with the military and suggests they will need F-15's to defeat him. 8) Threatens to end the Nordstream pipelines. Did I miss anything? Now is there anything there that suggests Biden is the type of personality to commit terrorism, crime or an act of war? Good grief. In order to make this foolish argument you must first establish that this is Biden's policy and not something he is stuck with and that the policy is exclusive to him or at least exclusive to Democrats. Except that Trump began providing training and weapons to Ukraine during his term. Pulling support from Ukraine after the invasion would have been Afghanistan Pullout v2 and Biden & the Democrats could not politically survive abandoning two countries in one term so they have been forced to continue the policy against their will. Anyone opposing Ukraine is actually a TDSing Never_Trumper and not a Biden worshiper as commonly and falsely claimed. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 1:22:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden's statement is evidence. It's fine with me if you want to defend him. All the liberals are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You know the answer: A lot clearer, such as if there was evidence. The lack of evidence doesn't absolve US from involvement, but it negates your claim. You are simply re-stating a claim without evidence. No argument even exists, you're not actually making one. Biden's statement is evidence. It's fine with me if you want to defend him. All the liberals are. Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says. Can't be both. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 2:20:14 AM EDT
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So would this be the first real world underwater demolition operation the SEALs have done? You know, if it was them.
Would they still write a book about it? |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 2:24:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says. Can't be both. It can very much be both. Biden hears something in his little secret meetings, then blurts it out on TV after. It doesn't mean he's in charge of making any of those decisions or coming up with any of the plans. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 2:53:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden has the same job as Ronald McDonald. And has an equal amount of say of what goes on.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 3:00:04 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: First of all biden can't walk up a airline gangway without falling on his face muchless an attack on a stationary oil pipeline. What did the libtards think when they voted for this crim inal treasonous demented career criminal that he'd get BETTER? Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance? Biden couldn't plan his way out of a wet paper bag. But the cia could. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 3:00:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, big mystery as to who did it. #no sarc I don't think we'll ever know definitively. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good read. Out of all the dives I did, drift dives in Cozumel were my favorite. I think the guys that did this were specialists and military or former military. What country or sponsor behind them is the big mystery. Yep, big mystery as to who did it. #no sarc I don't think we'll ever know definitively. Didn't mean to state the obvious, but you are right, we will never know. Most people here despise Biden but love their country. And they want America to be the good guy. So they have a hard time believing our country under Biden would commit terrorism, crime and an act of war by blowing up a pipeline. Even when he says he would. And in a sad display, they give him the benefit of the doubt. Truth is, FJB has already done more horrible things to this country and the world. Now if Trump had said the same thing as Biden, Pelosi would of started her 3rd impeachment for crimes against humanity and would be presenting the statement of "end Nordstream" as incontrovertible proof that he blew up the pipeline. And the state run MSM would run with it. Sadly, that's the type of country we live in now. Conversely, if incontrovertible proof was presented that Biden did it, the MSM and big tech would bury it, just like they did the lap top and everything else. And even more sadly, that's the type of country we live in now. So this mystery will never be solved. We'll never know, like you say. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 3:01:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One minute Biden is shitting his own pants and doesn't know what month it is, the next we're assuming something he said 7 months ago means we blew up a pipeline today. Which is it? What he said seven months ago was retarded. It's still retarded today. Given his track record, a pipeline attack would be right up his alley. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 3:08:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course there is. We just don't see it yet They have tons of motive and access Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can the "who done it" be narrowed down by process of elimination? I'm guessing only a few nation state's have the resources and technology to carry out such a mission. Being a SCUBA diver, I didn't realize it was so easy to dive so deep and blow something up! Almost 2,000 oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. Won't be pretty if this becomes commonplace. Sure. Easy peasy. Might take some special training, you think? I have many SCUBA certifications but missed the BUD/S one. Besides, he made it sound like Jacques Cousteau was blowing up U-boats in 1942. And now DIY mini-subs! And that pipeline is so easy to fix after being dynamited! Some people ought to just stick to hating on Trump. LMAO. I'm a rec diver too and it isn't anything I'd do, but I know a couple of rig divers/welders and the one I spoke with didn't think it was a big deal from the dive standpoint. The not being detected is probably the biggest issue. Why would Russia use rec divers OR rig divers? Deniability for one. Also, there is no evidence that Russia did this. There's no evidence they didn't. Of course there is. We just don't see it yet They have tons of motive and access I've been well-served by not discounting anything you say out of hand over the years. I figure this case is really no different. All the Russians would have to do is send a pig down the line with an explosive charge. Or if they have a Navy that is marginally better than the Army they've put on display I guess they could blow it that way. My best guess is this will turn out to be somewhat of a tempest in a teapot for the next several months. If the Russians wanted to escalate over it I'd think they'd be throwing a royal fit about now. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 3:10:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says. Can't be both. Or, you can only trust the retarded stuff he says. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 3:22:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One minute Biden is shitting his own pants and doesn't know what month it is, the next we're assuming something he said 7 months ago means we blew up a pipeline today. Which is it? Biden has NOTHING to do with US government policy. He is OWNED by the deep state and says whatever he is told to say. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 4:40:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was pretty damn funny. Had me laughing  So was this partial quote from page 20, courtesy of dsteelman about halfway down the page: "Why did t they invest in an army before ? Because they're a corrupt shithole , ran by fucks in track suits" Let's see if the next 7 pages of catch-up provides any more comedic gold. I think it was Doug Casey that called Russia a gas station with an attached gun store, in the middle of a wheat field. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 5:30:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should look up who financed most of "Russia's" Nordstream infrastructure. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "The sabatage done to our enemies (Russia) infrastructure is a direct attack on NATO. Any further attacks on Russia's infrastructure will be met with the full force of NATO member nations militaries against Russia's infrastructure in retaliation." You should look up who financed most of "Russia's" Nordstream infrastructure. Why not just state it The Germans made a calculated choice to create dependency on cheap Russian gas, made cheaper by a direct (non-transiting) link. Gazprom covered half of the cost of N2 for 51% ownership (control) - RDS, Uniper, OMV, Wintershall, and Engie covered the rest. The German firms were minority partners and provided fractional capital. Nordstream AG and Nordstream 2 AG are both majority owned and controlled by Gazprom, tho HQ'd in Zug, Suisse. Which is probably an important point to recognize The pipeline cost would have made German industry more competitive - relatively cheap energy for industry is a policy the German govt has pursued for quite some time. One of the major motivation for direct pipelines were the higher transit fees being charged by Ukraine and Poland, as well as control - which we see Germany merely exchanged. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 5:33:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wondering if the pipeline was insured. Gas was turned off, Germany has been finding new sources, no more money to be made Russian version of a kitchen fire insurance scam? edit: yep, it was insured The damage is cost inconsequential. The non-performance is going to be a much larger threat to N1 AG, N2 AG, and Gazprom - hence the constant shielding with force majuere notices. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 5:45:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says. Can't be both. perhaps thats why, in a recent interview about Ukraine he said "if I knew what our response would be do you think I'd tell you?". They stopped telling him so he didn't broadcast their plans like a retard. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 5:50:36 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says. Can't be both. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You know the answer: A lot clearer, such as if there was evidence. The lack of evidence doesn't absolve US from involvement, but it negates your claim. You are simply re-stating a claim without evidence. No argument even exists, you're not actually making one. Biden's statement is evidence. It's fine with me if you want to defend him. All the liberals are. Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says. Can't be both. A pants shitting retard would be exact type of person who would inadvertently, off the cuff discuss covert activities to demonstrate he is a persons with power or in the know. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 5:53:49 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course there is. We just don’t see it…yet They have tons of motive and access The exact same thing can be said for multiple players |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 5:54:31 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1-7 do kinda make it seem like he hates us. but you can be absolutely certain that in this case he not only has the correct opinion, he's looking out for America's best interest. because if we know anything about the federal gov particularly the crew in charge now, they put America First only a putin puppet would dare accuse our political class of selling this country out for something that only benefits themselves and not the people that elected them Quality ! |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 5:55:15 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance? Because you also think that Biden himself is the one pulling strings ? LoL |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 5:58:59 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A pants shitting retard would be exact type of person who would inadvertently, off the cuff discuss covert activities to demonstrate he is a persons with power or in the know. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You know the answer: A lot clearer, such as if there was evidence. The lack of evidence doesn't absolve US from involvement, but it negates your claim. You are simply re-stating a claim without evidence. No argument even exists, you're not actually making one. Biden's statement is evidence. It's fine with me if you want to defend him. All the liberals are. Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says. Can't be both. A pants shitting retard would be exact type of person who would inadvertently, off the cuff discuss covert activities to demonstrate he is a persons with power or in the know. Its a great narrative, which continues to, rather baldly, be put forward repeatedly - without any real context - which DKProf provided only once. Likely since he felt it resolved the issue and people recognize this fact Unfortunately, information exchange and persuasion doesn't work like this. Even demonstrably false information becomes accepted truth - merely by the interval of repetition. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 6:20:08 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a great narrative, which continues to, rather baldly, be put forward repeatedly - without any real context - which DKProf provided only once. Likely since he felt it resolved the issue and people recognize this fact Unfortunately, information exchange and persuasion doesn't work like this. Even demonstrably false information becomes accepted truth - merely by the interval of repetition. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You know the answer: A lot clearer, such as if there was evidence. The lack of evidence doesn't absolve US from involvement, but it negates your claim. You are simply re-stating a claim without evidence. No argument even exists, you're not actually making one. Biden's statement is evidence. It's fine with me if you want to defend him. All the liberals are. Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says. Can't be both. A pants shitting retard would be exact type of person who would inadvertently, off the cuff discuss covert activities to demonstrate he is a persons with power or in the know. Its a great narrative, which continues to, rather baldly, be put forward repeatedly - without any real context - which DKProf provided only once. Likely since he felt it resolved the issue and people recognize this fact Unfortunately, information exchange and persuasion doesn't work like this. Even demonstrably false information becomes accepted truth - merely by the interval of repetition. It’s kind of like saying only a pants shitting retard would say on video I caused a prosecutor to be fired as a flex, to disprove someone was caught on tape saying he caused a prosecutor to be fired. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 7:07:05 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's kind of like saying only a pants shitting retard would say on video I caused a prosecutor to be fired as a flex, to disprove someone was caught on tape saying he caused a prosecutor to be fired. A better example would be "Trumps Russian Collusion". Although there was suspect linking from the get go, the constant droning drowned out any reasonable objection. So now, even when those suspicions of validity are proven ironclad, nobody realizes the truth. I'm willing to wait for more information, rather than hook my wagons to the emotionally satisfying explanation. Especially when the mechanisms surrounding the distribution of that linking falls within the pattern of manipulation. But sure, I think we can all agree, Biden is cognitively impaired, morally bankrupt and quite likely not fit to serve as President. But Americans have moved on from holding any of their leadership to standards, as long as political outcomes favor their political beliefs. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 7:15:50 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A better example would be "Trumps Russian Collusion". Although there was suspect linking from the get go, the constant droning drowned out any reasonable objection. So now, even when those suspicions of validity are proven ironclad, nobody realizes the truth. I'm willing to wait for more information, rather than hook my wagons to the emotionally satisfying explanation. Especially when the mechanisms surrounding the distribution of that linking falls within the pattern of manipulation. But sure, I think we can all agree, Biden is cognitively impaired, morally bankrupt and quite likely not fit to serve as President. But Americans have moved on from holding any of their leadership to standards, as long as political outcomes favor their political beliefs. I’d love to know what happened after 2012 to make the entirety of the dem machine switch from , “the Russians are our allies now” to what we see today . They invaded Crimea and Hussein did exactly jack shit about it . Now ? The disparity of messages doesn’t seem to bother anyone who can fall back on kill a commie for mommy ideology. Being an 80s child I do love to watch Russian tanks explode , but the magnitude of policy change from 14 to 20 is just too large for me to forget it for too long . Along with the fact that Dems haven’t done anything in America’s best interest in decades |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 7:26:41 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Examine Biden's work product since he's been president for the answer: 1) Steals the election while eating ice cream in the comfort of his basement. 2) Tries to mandate a sketchy and dangerous vax on everyone in America. 3) Cuts and runs from Afghanistan abandoning Americans and leaving enough weapons behind to start WW3. 4) Floods the USA with millions of illegal aliens and fentanyl. 5) Prints money like crazy which will create a huge recession/depression in America before the end of 2023. 6) Uses federal law enforcement to harass, persecute and arrest political opponents. 7) Vilifies half of America, threatens them with the military and suggests they will need F-15's to defeat him. 8) Threatens to end the Nordstream pipelines. Did I miss anything? Now is there anything there that suggests Biden is the type of personality to commit terrorism, crime or an act of war? I agree with all those points. But Biden is just the useful idiot. Someone else is making all these disastrous decisions. How many times have we seen him say “they’re going to be mad at me for that” or “they told me I’m not allowed to take questions” or something else along those lines. Whoever it is, is definitely out to destroy America and what it’s stood for. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 7:32:48 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A better example would be "Trumps Russian Collusion". Although there was suspect linking from the get go, the constant droning drowned out any reasonable objection. So now, even when those suspicions of validity are proven ironclad, nobody realizes the truth. I'm willing to wait for more information, rather than hook my wagons to the emotionally satisfying explanation. Especially when the mechanisms surrounding the distribution of that linking falls within the pattern of manipulation. But sure, I think we can all agree, Biden is cognitively impaired, morally bankrupt and quite likely not fit to serve as President. But Americans have moved on from holding any of their leadership to standards, as long as political outcomes favor their political beliefs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's kind of like saying only a pants shitting retard would say on video I caused a prosecutor to be fired as a flex, to disprove someone was caught on tape saying he caused a prosecutor to be fired. A better example would be "Trumps Russian Collusion". Although there was suspect linking from the get go, the constant droning drowned out any reasonable objection. So now, even when those suspicions of validity are proven ironclad, nobody realizes the truth. I'm willing to wait for more information, rather than hook my wagons to the emotionally satisfying explanation. Especially when the mechanisms surrounding the distribution of that linking falls within the pattern of manipulation. But sure, I think we can all agree, Biden is cognitively impaired, morally bankrupt and quite likely not fit to serve as President. But Americans have moved on from holding any of their leadership to standards, as long as political outcomes favor their political beliefs. Add that people will always vote for those who will take money from others and then give it to them. |
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Posted: 9/30/2022 7:32:59 AM EDT
[#50]
You have to remove your own bias and look at objectively.
Biden isn't going to fuck up and mention a devised plan months in advance. I don't think he'd even be briefed just for that reason. That said he knows Nord is bad policy for us. I think he is a figurehead with a purpose and a purpose he knew in advance. Blowing that line shut a door for Russia and improved a position for us. Our government knew the line was bad for us geopolictically. Trump knew that, Obama knew that back in 2016 and Bush was againist the original Nord. (https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/interview/senior-obama-official-nord-stream-2-and-brexit-may-weaken-eu-energy-security/ ) Quote 2016 article" This doubling of one pipeline from one source, instead of creating multiple routes from multiple sources across that territory, does not appear to enhance Europe’s energy security. And it also of course deprives Ukraine of very important transit fees, which are significant from the perspective of Ukraine’s budget challenges. It pretty obvious who did this and they are attempting to accelerate the war. |
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