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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:17:19 PM EDT
[#1]
Suited Shootist?
Is he the Man vs Food guy? |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:18:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Who's to say the DEI crowd wants to be a part of the 2A crowd?
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:19:15 PM EDT
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This is almost as stupid an idea as the poster here that insists that Hispanics are really super conservative, and the reason why they vote liberal is because American conservatives are big racist meanies… not because big government socialism is the ultimate expression of patrón culture.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:20:50 PM EDT
[#4]
The DIE crowd's ideology is the reason the 2A crowd exists.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:21:33 PM EDT
[#5]
All commie types are either enemy proper, or braindead weapons of the enemy. May fuck be upon them all, forever.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:26:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Diversity, Equity and Inclusion folks are by definition collectivist. The Fight for the 2A Rights are for the preservation of rights of Individuals. So there is a difference and we should be very leery of those F'ers. My thoughts exactly. I'm not in favor of disenfranchising ANYONE from those rights bestowed on them by their Creator, but I'm especially not awfully trusting of those who would gladly disenfranchise me... |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:26:29 PM EDT
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The "DE&I crowd" is mostly entitlement class who want something for nothing, self loathing liberals and corporate HR.
to wit, groups of people I don't give a fuck about anyway. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:32:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Dude…no.
I remember way back when everyone was buzzing about “inviting the left into the big tent of 2A activism,” and now we have Antifa cells actively training and getting better with the weapons our side encouraged them to take up. Who do you think they’re planning on “defending themselves” from? No. Fuck that. Only a goddamn fool arms and trains a sworn enemy in the hope of reconciliation. There is no reconciliation with communists. They hate you with an ideological fervor that most people simply cannot understand, and if they can get away with it, they’ll use violence, to include deadly violence to rid the peoples collective of “fascists” like you, me and everyone else who just wants to be left the fuck alone. Our side’s biggest problem is retarded belief that being an individual means never cooperating with anyone else or joining a team effort to help the larger whole. We can’t get more than a few people together for more than a day on any subject relevant to our interests, while the left will drop any difference of opinion to unite behind even the most ridiculous ideas, because they understand the value of incrementalism. Instead of inviting the “DEI” crowd into our tent, we need to close ranks, consolidate and get our fucking shit straight before those assholes close us down forever. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:32:42 PM EDT
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Every single time you give "those people" a single concession or gesture of goodwill they take it, spit on it, and scream at you for more
Fuck them, I'd rather go down with the ship on fire than extend some cucked olive branch to the groups that are actively destroying everything i value Eat shit and die |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:35:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted: Look, I get it. No, I don't think you fucking do get it. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:37:19 PM EDT
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This "omg we need the biggest tent possible"
is bullshit and doesn't reflect history in any way. Basically every win on the 2A has been a result of a relatively small, extremely dedicated group effort In modern America 100 million people who want something<<<1 million people who rabidly want something Nothing some whiny dude in leisure wear says on video will change that Anyone who doesn't want me dead is welcome to own a gun, there is no need for pathetic groveling Aside from that, the guy's message doesn't even mention DEI. The diversity part sure. Not being a jerk isn't the same as what insane leftists advocate Lastly, the YouTube guy has the same awful linguistics as the scary gruff gunguize and everyone else on the internet. "applied violence arena" Redditification of the world |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:44:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re confusing equity and equality. Equality is giving everyone the same opportunity. Equity is giving everyone the same outcome. Not the same. It’s a liberal game of words to make you think you’re getting something you’re not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Inclusion and (to an extant) equity is just being a good person. Diversity for the sake of diversity is fucking retarded. Mandating either and trying to measure/enforce such is the joy of petty tyrants everywhere. DEI is corporate bullshit. Leave it there. Be open and inviting to all, and helpful to those you think deserve it. You’re confusing equity and equality. Equality is giving everyone the same opportunity. Equity is giving everyone the same outcome. Not the same. It’s a liberal game of words to make you think you’re getting something you’re not. Equity is helping people succeed. It is spending extra time and resources with people. That is great when you want to do it. I do it with Scouts, my children's friends, co-workers that I think are worth the effort. It is charitable to help people, but like all charity it has to be done freely. I don't waste my time with slackers or, frankly, those that will never get it. Diversity as a goal, diversity for diversity's sake is counterproductive to achieving any productive goal. Undo equity is detrimental to achievement and a waste of resources. While corporate DEI is bullshit, personally spending extra time to make a difference when you want to and when you feel it is productive is a blessing. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:49:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is almost as stupid an idea as the poster here that insists that Hispanics are really super conservative, and the reason why they vote liberal is because American conservatives are big racist meanies… not because big government socialism is the ultimate expression of patrón culture. The stupidity is pigeonholing "Hispanics" or any group. Every Cuban I know is a die-hard Republican. Most (but certainly not all) Puerto Ricans I know lean socialist. I couldn't tell you where Spaniards land in that continuum. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:51:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Didn’t watch his video but I know him.
Alex is a Grade-A fucking retard, but at least he’s not shilling for SwampFox so much anymore. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:53:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The stupidity is pigeonholing "Hispanics" or any group. Every Cuban I know is a die-hard Republican. Most (but certainly not all) Puerto Ricans I know lean socialist. I couldn't tell you where Spaniards land in that continuum. People from Spain aren't considered Hispanic. Seriously. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:53:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The hell is DEI? Some new fad that HR likes to talk about all the time. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 1:57:37 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Diversity, Equity and Inclusion folks are by definition collectivist. The Fight for the 2A Rights are for the preservation of rights of Individuals. So there is a difference and we should be very leery of those F'ers. Nailed it, |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 2:00:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: Look, I get it. I'm a (old enough) member of the community that I can relate to those who have a certain reaction to the DEI crowd. And those that intentionally cause problems with their devious behavior are a concern to me as well. But all of the anger/hate/whatever you want to call it isn't going to change the fact that time marches on and if we want to keep our rights, we need to embrace their desire to be a part of our community. We will need them, and their rights as human beings to self-defense are no different than ours. Will there be a small set of subversive people who are there to cause problems? Of course there will. Some humans are scummy like that. But unless we embrace the vast majority who just want to learn and be able to protect themselves and their loved ones, we will lose what I feel is the most important fight to protect our Democracy. (insert Emperor Palpatine "let the hate flow through you" meme here)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp1q-kkNLac Attached File |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 2:00:38 PM EDT
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Hey look, it's an old person applying outdated ideals from a bygone era that contributed to the current sorry state of the country telling us why the DIE cultists really aren't so bad and we totally just need to explain that the 2A guarantees everyone's right to self defense one more time and they'll totally be our allies this time like for real
Do you understand what the 2A means to the "DEI crowd"? It means they get to kill you with the gun you're happily showing them how to use. You just told them that they have a fundamental right to defend themselves, and lo and behold, it turns out that most of them consider "whiteness" to be an existential threat to their existence. And you shoot to end the threat, do you not? I appreciate you and your sentiment though. It's noble of you to volunteer to go probe the minefield like that so the rest of us can get a little more warning on who's going to shoot us in the back of the head for our kindness and tolerance. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 2:03:43 PM EDT
[#20]
How about no.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 2:17:49 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is not a democracy. Our rights are not up for a vote. There is no DEI crowd. Not in the gun or any freedom loving community. The “DEI crowd” are degenerate communist pedophiles who hate you and hate this country. To them “white” is inherently evil. To make up for past injustice “whites” have to be underrepresented or better yet have no representation and minorities must be over represented. DEI is a part of CRT which is a Marxist ideology that says the only way to level the playing field for oppressed minorities is through communism. Equal outcomes, not equal opportunity. This is some deeply anti-American shit. This. I will not support or be a welcoming person to those who would rather have me rounded up and shot just because of my skin color. They are creating hate where there was none in some, or rekindling the hate others had found the heart to no longer hate. OP, you should feel very bad right now. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 2:36:11 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who's to say the DEI crowd wants to be a part of the 2A crowd? Seems to me they'd fit in more with that John Brown gun group |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 2:39:58 PM EDT
[#23]
DEI is marxist ideology pushed by marxists
fuck them |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 2:41:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who's to say the DEI crowd wants to be a part of the 2A crowd? If they do it is to tear it down. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:05:43 PM EDT
[#25]
 Pretty sure OP is confused about what DEI is and entails, based entirely on the way he's using it in his post. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:07:33 PM EDT
[#26]
I need to know who is covered under the “DEI crowd” before weighing in.
If it’s some broad term that means anyone who is not a white male, then sure, of course we need women and minorities to be pro-2a. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:09:17 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My thoughts exactly. I'm not in favor of disenfranchising ANYONE from those rights bestowed on them by their Creator, but I'm especially not awfully trusting of those who would gladly disenfranchise me... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Diversity, Equity and Inclusion folks are by definition collectivist. The Fight for the 2A Rights are for the preservation of rights of Individuals. So there is a difference and we should be very leery of those F'ers. My thoughts exactly. I'm not in favor of disenfranchising ANYONE from those rights bestowed on them by their Creator, but I'm especially not awfully trusting of those who would gladly disenfranchise me... Acronym should be DIE. (Diversity, Inclusion, Equity). I’m all for diversity and voluntary inclusion, but throwing equity in there tells you there’s a commie sapper trying to undermine culture, natural hierarchy, and voluntary trade under property rights. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:13:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Acronym should be DIE. (Diversity, Inclusion, Equity). I’m all for diversity and voluntary inclusion, but throwing equity in there tells you there’s a commie sapper trying to undermine culture, natural hierarchy, and voluntary trade under property rights. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Diversity, Equity and Inclusion folks are by definition collectivist. The Fight for the 2A Rights are for the preservation of rights of Individuals. So there is a difference and we should be very leery of those F'ers. My thoughts exactly. I'm not in favor of disenfranchising ANYONE from those rights bestowed on them by their Creator, but I'm especially not awfully trusting of those who would gladly disenfranchise me... Acronym should be DIE. (Diversity, Inclusion, Equity). I’m all for diversity and voluntary inclusion, but throwing equity in there tells you there’s a commie sapper trying to undermine culture, natural hierarchy, and voluntary trade under property rights. It might not mean equity of wealth. Or it might, not sure. I have heard equity used for other things, like political equity for example. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:15:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: Look, I get it. I'm a (old enough) member of the community that I can relate to those who have a certain reaction to the DEI crowd. And those that intentionally cause problems with their devious behavior are a concern to me as well. But all of the anger/hate/whatever you want to call it isn't going to change the fact that time marches on and if we want to keep our rights, we need to embrace their desire to be a part of our community. We will need them, and their rights as human beings to self-defense are no different than ours. Will there be a small set of subversive people who are there to cause problems? Of course there will. Some humans are scummy like that. But unless we embrace the vast majority who just want to learn and be able to protect themselves and their loved ones, we will lose what I feel is the most important fight to protect our Democracy. (insert Emperor Palpatine "let the hate flow through you" meme here) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp1q-kkNLacTrolling.... and you aren't even good at it. 
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:15:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:15:56 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure OP is confused about what DEI is and entails, based entirely on the way he's using it in his post. This. I watched the video. It doesn't mention "DEI", it just says "be welcoming". |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:16:54 PM EDT
[#32]
Training the enemy in shooting doesn't make them a friend, it just makes them an enemy more likely to hit you when they pull the trigger. Some truths are hard but need to be recognized. Gatekeeping is a good thing.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:21:44 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I watched the video. It doesn't mention "DEI", it just says "be welcoming". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty sure OP is confused about what DEI is and entails, based entirely on the way he's using it in his post. This. I watched the video. It doesn't mention "DEI", it just says "be welcoming". What OP posted is akin to insisting I give money to BLM so people don't think I'm racist. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:21:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: AFAIK Dale Earnheardt Inc was very much 2a. Probably some old throwbacks still proud of that handle too. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:23:40 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: AFAIK Dale Earnheardt Inc was very much 2a. Probably some old throwbacks still proud of that handle too. This was the only DEI I know of. I read the op and still wasnt sure what he was talking about. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:26:23 PM EDT
[#36]
There were quite a few here that wanted to join up with Antifa for the VA 2020 2A Rally.......to desperately side with people that want to destroy you is disgusting.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:29:54 PM EDT
[#37]
Only good DEI person is a dead one.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:30:20 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I watched the video. It doesn't mention "DEI", it just says "be welcoming". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty sure OP is confused about what DEI is and entails, based entirely on the way he's using it in his post. This. I watched the video. It doesn't mention "DEI", it just says "be welcoming". Guess I should have watched the video. I was really confused about how DEI could be used in this context and just assumed it was from the video. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:37:10 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is almost as stupid an idea as the poster here that insists that Hispanics are really super conservative, and the reason why they vote liberal is because American conservatives are big racist meanies… not because big government socialism is the ultimate expression of patrón culture. Many of them are conservative. But they vote for conservative politicians. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:39:07 PM EDT
[#40]
I don’t have a problem with the freaks, I just have a problem with the commies/Marxist/collectivists/socialists.
Problem is, very few fall outside the circles on a Venn diagram. DEI crowd isn’t worth shaking out to see if there’s any flyers in the group. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:39:44 PM EDT
[#41]
No, fuck DEI.
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:42:51 PM EDT
[#42]
Yes, the 2A community should welcome people with a varied backgrounds.
No, we should not welcome the DEI crowd. DEI is three lies for the price of one. It’s not about diversity, equity, or inclusion. It’s about punishing and excluding white people, especially straight, Christian, white men. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:44:47 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Diversity, Equity and Inclusion folks are by definition collectivist. The Fight for the 2A Rights are for the preservation of rights of Individuals. So there is a difference and we should be very leery of those F'ers. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:51:29 PM EDT
[#44]
DEI is based on filtering everything through the lens of skin color, sex identity, etc.
We don't do that and should not. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:53:54 PM EDT
[#45]
Dale Earnhardt Incorporated folded many years ago, what gives?
Why pick on Dale Earnhardt ? He liked 2A. Didn't Theresa mess up DEI? |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 3:59:33 PM EDT
[#46]
I want zero to do with any DEI, CRT, JBGC, ANTIFA, BLM, or other commie marxist group. They can all fuck directly off.
Don't call me, I won't call you. They are all varying degrees of radicalization. Any of them who say otherwise are simply liars. ETA: Modly just told me he hates DEI groups. |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 4:03:44 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It might not mean equity of wealth. Or it might, not sure. I have heard equity used for other things, like political equity for example.  DEI Explained |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 4:09:10 PM EDT
[#48]
I welcomed the Pink Pistols to VCDL meetings back in the day.
Over the years I've found that the PP people tended to be FAR more interested in leftist intersectionality and almost none of them became 2A voters. Just my experience .... |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 4:18:07 PM EDT
[#49]
 The Downfall of Dale Earnhardt Incorporated (DEI) |
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Posted: 9/17/2022 4:42:33 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Diversity, Equity and Inclusion folks are by definition collectivist. The Fight for the 2A Rights are for the preservation of rights of Individuals. So there is a difference and we should be very leery of those F'ers. Yes. Same as their treatment of the First Amendment. Those of us whom have been listening to Pinko's know there can be no peace or unity. |
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