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Posted: 5/6/2021 11:32:54 AM EDT
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Facebook ad. Nice try.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:37:43 AM EDT
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Nice try, I’ll just file the firing pin down.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:38:05 AM EDT
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“I will comply”
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:39:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:40:24 AM EDT
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99.87% of people will.

I do wonder how that thing works

How does the one on the right even work? Will the steel really flex that much? Or are they just made out of metal so they are harder to destroy before your door gets kicked in?
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:41:06 AM EDT
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I've never understood the the entrapment tactic, legal ploy or not. Enough real criminals out there.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:44:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:45:01 AM EDT
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low hanging fruit... and it was never about getting actual bad guys...
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:46:34 AM EDT
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They don’t exist to find criminals

They exist to criminalize citizens
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:47:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:54:35 AM EDT
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Thats because it isn't an ATF trap..... It's guys in China, who could give a fuck about the NFA, that are perfectly willing to send you anything once you send them your money.

They don't care if it gets nabbed in customs, or you get a knock at your door after ordering one.

I've said it dozen's of times .... ATF doesn't need to run stings .....there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to do their work for them.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:55:04 AM EDT
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I love how it advertises saving $5-$10.

"We have the cheapest felony in town!"

After the solvent trap hoobla it doesn't sound like the ATF hardly has any handle on these. It sounds like china is just trying to sell literally anything they can to americans.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:55:39 AM EDT
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How much were they askin'?  It's for a friend.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:57:12 AM EDT
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lol I don't think they're going to work, they're solid, I think the link needs to be flexible.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 11:59:06 AM EDT
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Low res at that.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:01:14 PM EDT
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It makes me smile to think of how many people have bought shit like this from overseas.

I'd be shocked if even 2% of people ever get caught. There must be millions upon millions of unregistered machine guns in the USA at this point. Can't say it breaks my heart either.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:01:19 PM EDT
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No firing pin, how does it fire
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:01:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:03:19 PM EDT
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Looking for a drop-in auto sear for my Ruger Single-Six.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:12:29 PM EDT
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Isn't the ATF standard for "readily covetable" something like 8 hours in a full equipped machine shop, by a skilled machinist?

By that standard, a solid block of steel is a machine gun as it takes less time that that to turn it into a full auto WWII style Sten gun.

Always remember, the enemy of the ATF are law abiding hobby gun enthusiasts.  The felons and criminals gun runners are to be avoided by them.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:14:22 PM EDT
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Meh. I went with the wall hanger version.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:15:09 PM EDT
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Not ATF, it's a Nigerian scammer
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:18:45 PM EDT
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Laughs in wire EDM.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:20:33 PM EDT
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Thats true but just about anyone can cast a part and it would hold up. Heck you could probably use a hacksaw and some files and do the same.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:22:58 PM EDT
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Then again I have no idea why anyone would want full auto. I mean its fun at the range but unless you’re in a squad and need to provide cover fire, I don’t see the point.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:23:19 PM EDT
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Wire EDM and spring stock
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:24:29 PM EDT
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Looks legit.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:26:04 PM EDT
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They don’t exist to find criminals

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This. They would rather dupe people then actually remove criminals off the street.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:26:05 PM EDT
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They don't exist to find criminals

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Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:26:43 PM EDT
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Thats because it isn't an ATF trap..... It's guys in China, who could give a fuck about the NFA, that are perfectly willing to send you anything once you send them your money.

They don't care if it gets nabbed in customs, or you get a knock at your door after ordering one.

I've said it dozen's of times .... ATF doesn't need to run stings .....there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to do their work for them.
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And you work for whom?  
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:29:36 PM EDT
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Soon any metal barstock will be an illegal 2% machinegun reciever.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:33:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:40:28 PM EDT
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This. 25 years in LE.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:41:55 PM EDT
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lulz....jokes on them, I have a registered shoe string
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:43:35 PM EDT
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I should order one and Form 3 it.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:44:07 PM EDT
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Ell-Oh-Fuggin-Ell
Fuck the Kingsguard, Fuck the King
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:50:04 PM EDT
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Do I get to choose what's for Dinner at Club Fed?
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:53:31 PM EDT
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It's easier to bag joe shmoe than to do real investigative work and getting off their fat asses.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 12:58:48 PM EDT
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I'm not so sure that's how that thing is supposed to look...

Pretty sure it's not going to open the bottles the way it was intended....
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:05:33 PM EDT
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It's because not enough of those real criminals are breaking the specific legal technicalities that are the ATF's only real reason for existing.

And also because throwing an otherwise non-criminal gun owner in prison for decades on manufactured charges scares the hell out of other gun owners and make us wary of each other thus stopping us from being a connected organized group
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:05:58 PM EDT
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I'm not so sure that's how that thing is supposed to look...

Pretty sure it's not going to open the bottles the way it was intended....
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I'm not so sure that's how that thing is supposed to look...

Pretty sure it's not going to open the bottles the way it was intended....


I was gonna say the same thing. I’m no sme, but that doesn’t look like the auto sears I’ve seen.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:07:07 PM EDT
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With the cost of ammo today? No fucking way.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:08:07 PM EDT
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I should order one and Form 3 it.
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Even an SOT can't Form 2 contraband.......
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:08:20 PM EDT
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Thats true but just about anyone can cast a part and it would hold up. Heck you could probably use a hacksaw and some files and do the same.
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Tool steel, CNC and Wire EDM for AR parts, castings, hacksaws and files for the AK parts.  

Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:08:28 PM EDT
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Thats because it isn't an ATF trap..... It's guys in China, who could give a fuck about the NFA, that are perfectly willing to send you anything once you send them your money.

They don't care if it gets nabbed in customs, or you get a knock at your door after ordering one.

I've said it dozen's of times .... ATF doesn't need to run stings .....there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to do their work for them.
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Just because the ATF might be hunting over another guys bait doesn't mean it's not an ATF trap.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:09:26 PM EDT
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With the price of ammo the key ring hole is the most important feature.  

It always amazes me that Ho Lee Fuk in Wi Kon Yu can figure out what Cletus in Couchland USA will be tempted to spend Federal Dwindle Notes on.
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:11:07 PM EDT
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Don't forget the rubber band
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:11:08 PM EDT
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Fuck.  I just ordered a dozen.  Am I gonna get raped in prison?
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:12:15 PM EDT
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Perfect timing.  I just got a Facebook ad for the "viper stock".  No mention that it's an NFA item in the ad.  It's only mentioned on the webpage in the FAQ, and even then it's the 3rd question behind such pressing issues such as "How do I track my package".

Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:14:36 PM EDT
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They don’t exist to find criminals

They exist to criminalize citizens
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I've never understood the the entrapment tactic, legal ploy or not. Enough real criminals out there.


They don’t exist to find criminals

They exist to criminalize citizens

This.  They also have to justify the existence of their job with reports of, "Look how many people are willing to break the law!  More funding!!"
Link Posted: 5/6/2021 1:15:59 PM EDT
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It might be fun to make an ad for a "full auto firing pin" to troll the batf.  Include a picture with the end of an AR firing pin filed off.
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