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Link Posted: 7/1/2023 10:56:02 AM EDT
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and its russel
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I was going with those in the back have the least to lose and the most to gain.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 10:59:14 AM EDT
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Hulk not gaining on Gasley
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 10:59:29 AM EDT
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I’ll be interested to compare the inter wear on the Red Bulls and the Ferrari.

ETA: and the Astons
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 10:59:50 AM EDT
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What wait now in front
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 10:59:52 AM EDT
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why in the freaking god did they put mediums on leclerc ? seriously ?`

wrong choice of tires and 2 laps late?

the pits are literally retards
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:00:41 AM EDT
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What wait now in front
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Might get Norris
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:01:12 AM EDT
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Hulk is flying but will run out of laps
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:02:49 AM EDT
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Might get Norris
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gonna be close
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:03:40 AM EDT
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If ferrari did what Mercedes did with russel (nothing to lose) Leclerc could have done P7

well done Mercedes
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:04:01 AM EDT
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Alonso Stroll is a joke
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:04:17 AM EDT
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gonna be close
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He did and much more. Good call on the tires.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:05:27 AM EDT
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Surprisingly fun sprint race.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:05:52 AM EDT
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That was a good show
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:05:53 AM EDT
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good race from Carlos.

im beginning to believe those who here say that Leclerc has lost the edge
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:06:43 AM EDT
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not a single accident ! impressive
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:07:19 AM EDT
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That was great
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:07:45 AM EDT
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He did and much more. Good call on the tires.
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honestly it wasnt a difficult call for russel and mercedes. they basically had nothing to lose. same for leclerc and ferrari. Yes Mercedes did the right thing, ferrari not
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:07:46 AM EDT
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Surprisingly fun sprint race.
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You should watch the F2 and F3 sprints.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:08:00 AM EDT
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He did and much more. Good call on the tires.
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Great call.  I dunno if i was misreading the timing or what but it seemed like he was way back at times but then making up time like instantly. I will have to rewatch.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:08:58 AM EDT
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honestly it wasnt a difficult call for russel and mercedes. they basically had nothing to lose. same for leclerc and ferrari. Yes Mercedes did the right thing, ferrari not
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For them yeah. For Haas it was a bit of a gamble.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:11:31 AM EDT
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Great call.  I dunno if i was misreading the timing or what but it seemed like he was way back at times but then making up time like instantly. I will have to rewatch.
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Probably a timing and scoring update issue. Also the other cars battling each other slowed them down. So with the other cars being defensive and slower than they could be and having better tires Hulk was going to be much faster in comparison.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:12:33 AM EDT
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You should watch the F2 and F3 sprints.
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Surprisingly fun sprint race.

You should watch the F2 and F3 sprints.


Eh…I have tried to care over the years, but I never could get into it.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:21:45 AM EDT
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Missed the stupid sprint. Thought it started now.

A Formula Regional driver was killed today at Spa, in a support race for the WEC.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:24:22 AM EDT
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Eh…I have tried to care over the years, but I never could get into it.
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Surprisingly fun sprint race.

You should watch the F2 and F3 sprints.


Eh…I have tried to care over the years, but I never could get into it.

These had complex track conditions, coupled with names like Fittipaldi and Mansel, not to mention seeing four wide in T3 and three wide in T4-7 makes for some fun viewing.

The F3 sprint was a bit more fun than F2 admittedly.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:29:16 AM EDT
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So happy for Max.  Just an unbelievable result for him, finally.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:34:53 AM EDT
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So happy for Max.  Just an unbelievable result for him, finally.
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Yes, Max finally gets a bit of luck. Poor, poor Max struggling against the odds finally has fortune turn in his favor. Why oh why can't Max catch a break?



Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:36:10 AM EDT
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Yes, Max finally gets a bit of luck. Poor, poor Max struggling against the odds finally has fortune turn in his favor. Why oh why can't Max catch a break?



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Haha
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 11:41:48 AM EDT
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I thoroughly enjoyed that one, a 5 lap longer race would have really shaken things up.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 12:18:15 PM EDT
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Yes, Max finally gets a bit of luck. Poor, poor Max struggling against the odds finally has fortune turn in his favor. Why oh why can't Max catch a break?



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So happy for Max.  Just an unbelievable result for him, finally.


Yes, Max finally gets a bit of luck. Poor, poor Max struggling against the odds finally has fortune turn in his favor. Why oh why can't Max catch a break?




Something similar happened in the F2 sprint where Fittipaldi had two wheels pushed into the grass on the straight between T3 and T4.

Full spinout and could not continue.

Max could have been really fucked by Perez.  

Super lucky guy!
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 12:30:23 PM EDT
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Missed the stupid sprint. Thought it started now.

A Formula Regional driver was killed today at Spa, in a support race for the WEC.
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Sucks to hear that.
A reminder that despite all the advances in safety, it's still a dangerous sport we enjoy. RIP.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 12:49:29 PM EDT
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Sucks to hear that.
A reminder that despite all the advances in safety, it's still a dangerous sport we enjoy. RIP.
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Missed the stupid sprint. Thought it started now.

A Formula Regional driver was killed today at Spa, in a support race for the WEC.
Sucks to hear that.
A reminder that despite all the advances in safety, it's still a dangerous sport we enjoy. RIP.

Coming off the top of Raidillon. That's such a dangerous spot for a crash.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 12:55:30 PM EDT
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Coming off the top of Raidillon. That's such a dangerous spot for a crash.
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There was so much spray, you couldn't see the crash on camera.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 12:56:54 PM EDT
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Coming off the top of Raidillon. That's such a dangerous spot for a crash.
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Jacques Villeneuve almost died there as well in his time
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 1:04:54 PM EDT
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Alonso v. Stroll, stupid shit. Trying to not beat team daddy's boy.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 1:12:34 PM EDT
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Alonso v. Stroll, stupid shit. Trying to not beat team daddy's boy.
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It’s honestly shameful
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 1:18:27 PM EDT
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Leclerc blaming himself for not being good enough under mixed conditions and drying track. Yeah, we saw that.

Apparently he and sainz have different set up. Leclerc      had less downforce.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 1:28:06 PM EDT
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I thoroughly enjoyed that one, a 5 lap longer race would have really shaken things up.
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Five laps longer and everyone would’ve been on slicks.

Entertaining sprint. Feel bad Lando hit the anti stall. Oscar was putting on some great moves at the end.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 2:36:35 PM EDT
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Alonso v. Stroll, stupid shit. Trying to not beat team daddy's boy.
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I had hoped the team to tell Stroll they each have to earn their position.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 2:44:27 PM EDT
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why in the freaking god did they put mediums on leclerc ? seriously ?`

wrong choice of tires and 2 laps late?

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Perhaps they are saving softs for the actual race?   Might be an allocation issue - or just "Ferrari."

I don't know why anyone would intentionally take mediums with 10 laps or less left beyond that?
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 2:45:31 PM EDT
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Jacques Villeneuve almost died there as well in his time
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Found a video of the actual crash. He was t-boned just like Hubert.

https://i.imgur.io/LTBq8fx.mp4
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 4:59:40 PM EDT
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Simon Pagenaud withstands harrowing IndyCar Series Mid-Ohio practice crash | Motorsports on NBC
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 5:23:30 PM EDT
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Damn!

China Beach at Mid-Ohio due to brake failure... been there.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 5:43:59 PM EDT
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More on the impeding.

apparently in the Shootout, Verstappen impeded Hamilton, the lap after hamilton impeded him, and stewards in this case penalized nobody.. in both cases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNCc2P2j8Dg

images visible at 3.55 for the 1st impeding (hamilton on verstappen) and 4.38 for the 2nd (Verstappen on Hamilton)

there wasnt even an investigation, when it clear that Verstappen did what he did as a 'revenge' for what hamilton did before (basically ruining Hamilton last lap on purpose).

honestly, I don't understand how this selective enforcement keeps happening and everybody is fine with it.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 6:00:54 PM EDT
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More on the impeding.

apparently in the Shootout, Verstappen impeded Hamilton, the lap after hamilton impeded him, and stewards in this case penalized nobody.. in both cases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNCc2P2j8Dg

images visible at 3.55 for the 1st impeding (hamilton on verstappen) and 4.38 for the 2nd (Verstappen on Hamilton)

there wasnt even an investigation, when it clear that Verstappen did what he did as a 'revenge' for what hamilton did before (basically ruining Hamilton last lap on purpose).

honestly, I don't understand how this selective enforcement keeps happening and everybody is fine with it.
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Why exactly do you think Ferrari would be targeted? Back when there was the RB/MERC revelry the concern was the protection of HAM - a major value not only for a major player dollars wise but to break Schumachers record.  Exactly why would they be selectively enforcing against Ferrari? To what gain? Ferrari can’t get out of their own way no one has to impede them.

I’m not saying they don’t make ridiculous calls at times but you only seem to point out Ferrari
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 6:28:23 PM EDT
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Max finishing 20+ seconds ahead of Checo after only 24 laps.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 6:30:30 PM EDT
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I honestly thought the penalty on Charles was bullshit. He was going to the pits and they've already made it clear to be inside the line when going into the pits.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 6:33:50 PM EDT
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More on the impeding.

apparently in the Shootout, Verstappen impeded Hamilton, the lap after hamilton impeded him, and stewards in this case penalized nobody.. in both cases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNCc2P2j8Dg

images visible at 3.55 for the 1st impeding (hamilton on verstappen) and 4.38 for the 2nd (Verstappen on Hamilton)

there wasnt even an investigation, when it clear that Verstappen did what he did as a 'revenge' for what hamilton did before (basically ruining Hamilton last lap on purpose).

honestly, I don't understand how this selective enforcement keeps happening and everybody is fine with it.
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Eta:  I see you were referring to an earlier penalty not missed ones for Ham or Ver.


One element of ruling, writing this as a "steward" for another sport, is that we cannot consider intent.  

A steward cannot know what a driver is thinking.  They can speculate, but that has no legal standing.  All they can do is rule based on the physical evidence to determine a consequence.

Physical evidence can suggest intent but nobody knows if a driver is being vindictive other than the driver himself.  He is the only one that knows what he is thinking.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 6:34:35 PM EDT
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It’s honestly shameful
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Alonso v. Stroll, stupid shit. Trying to not beat team daddy's boy.


It’s honestly shameful


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Wasn't that last lap? From a team perspective, why play games there in changing track conditions? I'm still new to this. More like a "if you want to race, should have passed earlier" thing.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 6:36:00 PM EDT
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Max finishing 20+ seconds ahead of Checo after only 24 laps.
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The only way another team wins this year is if both Red Bulls take a shit mid-race.


Link Posted: 7/1/2023 6:38:19 PM EDT
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The only way another team wins this year is if both Red Bulls take a shit mid-race.


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Max finishing 20+ seconds ahead of Checo after only 24 laps.
The only way another team wins this year is if both Red Bulls take a shit mid-race.



Which includes one driver taking another out which is what we almost witnessed at T2 today.
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