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Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:47:31 PM EDT
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And he gets saved by others not wanting to take the job.

Diehard Cowboys fans are rejoicing while the talking heads are about to doom and gloom the Cowboys now. Joe Whitt or Al Harris is my guess. Big Mike will go in house for his potential last year.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:47:52 PM EDT
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So Belichick and Vrabel are out of the running for any head coaching jobs.

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How can you hire Vrabel if BB is available and no GM wants BB because he wants to be in complete control, is an asshole, is too old and only will realistically coach 2 to 3 years, has a bad record without Brady etc.

Basically BB is a bad hire and his being on the market opens up criticism for anyone going with Vrabel.

Risk averse GMs will avoid both.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:56:23 PM EDT
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How can you hire Vrabel if BB is available and no GM wants BB because he wants to be in complete control, is an asshole, is too old and only will realistically coach 2 to 3 years, has a bad record without Brady etc.

Basically BB is a bad hire and his being on the market opens up criticism for anyone going with Vrabel.

Risk averse GMs will avoid both.
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So Belichick and Vrabel are out of the running for any head coaching jobs.

Wild.


How can you hire Vrabel if BB is available and no GM wants BB because he wants to be in complete control, is an asshole, is too old and only will realistically coach 2 to 3 years, has a bad record without Brady etc.

Basically BB is a bad hire and his being on the market opens up criticism for anyone going with Vrabel.

Risk averse GMs will avoid both.


This is how:



I think Belichick is still a dangerous coach, and I was dreading the possibility of him coming to the AFC West, but he does have downsides, and I could see an argument for hiring Vrabel over him.

I thought Vrabel would get the Pats job, and I thought his traits made him a good solution to the problems in Atlanta and Carolina, but all three teams chose options I think are a lot more questionable.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:00:45 PM EDT
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Vrabel with a good GM would have been incredible in NE. Heck, Vrabel with a good GM anywhere would be incredible.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:14:11 PM EDT
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It's nuttier when you look at some of the guys that did get hired.

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So Belichick and Vrabel are out of the running for any head coaching jobs.

Wild.


It's nuttier when you look at some of the guys that did get hired.



Quinn is Rivera 2.0.

I can understand hiring a defensive coach, but it makes little sense when the skins wanted an offensive guy. And, you go defense, but you don’t entertain Belichick or Vrabel?

There’s no world where Quinn is better than those two.

Same clown show in Washington. What a disappointment.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:15:08 PM EDT
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I wanted him or Bill in DC. I’m already not enthused for next season.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:16:09 PM EDT
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I'm not sure what Vrabel's ceiling is, but he usually coached tough teams, and they seemed to outperform the talent on the roster.

If you have a stable franchise that's stagnant and you want to take it to the next step (Seattle), I'm not sure you should call Mike Vrabel.

If your football team is a disgusting smoking toilet of a franchise (Carolina, Atlanta, and Vegas), and you want a guy to come in, cut through the BS, and fix it, Mike Vrabel is probably a guy you should have called.

Predicting the success of rookie coaches is hard (I was wrong about LaFleur, Stefanski, and Campbell), but I'd be very surprised if more than one of those three teams hired HCs better than Vrabel.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:19:16 PM EDT
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Quinn is Rivera 2.0.

I can understand hiring a defensive coach, but it makes little sense when the skins wanted an offensive guy. And, you go defense, but you don’t entertain Belichick or Vrabel?

There’s no world where Quinn is better than those two.

Same clown show in Washington. What a disappointment.
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Ever think of the possibility that neither one wanted the job?

Belichick knows football history and he probably knows Vince Lombardi went to the Redskins after Green Bay...and then died soon after.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:25:13 PM EDT
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Ever think of the possibility that neither one wanted the job?

Belichick knows football history and he probably knows Vince Lombardi went to the Redskins after Green Bay...and then died soon after.
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Quinn is Rivera 2.0.

I can understand hiring a defensive coach, but it makes little sense when the skins wanted an offensive guy. And, you go defense, but you don’t entertain Belichick or Vrabel?

There’s no world where Quinn is better than those two.

Same clown show in Washington. What a disappointment.

Ever think of the possibility that neither one wanted the job?

Belichick knows football history and he probably knows Vince Lombardi went to the Redskins after Green Bay...and then died soon after.




What I was expecting: The WTF still has that Dan Snyder stank all up in the carpet and the bed sheets.

What I read: Belichick would die there.

But I guess if you consider the Joe Theismann -> Alex Smith story, it's not that crazy.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:27:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:47:27 PM EDT
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There's been good coordinators become amazing HCs and amazing coordinators fail at HC and no one really knows until they take the jobs.

I'm not a fan of Vrabel--I've seen some bad clock management and in-game decisions in every Titans game I've seen, maybe 7-8.

But the best explanation is that there wasn't a job he was sold on, and another 8 teams will be looking next year that might be a better fit.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:48:04 PM EDT
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CBS will have 165 cameras for the Super Bowl. Includes:
24 4k zoom capable cameras
20 pylon cameras
24 robotic operated cameras
48 super slo motion cameras
23 augmented reality cameras (Nickelodeon)
6 brand new "doink" cameras (mounted high up on the FG uprights)
5 sky / fly cameras
3 drone cameras
5 shallow DOF cameras (endzone celebration cameras)
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:49:43 PM EDT
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What I was expecting: The WTF still has that Dan Snyder stank all up in the carpet and the bed sheets.

What I read: Belichick would die there.

But I guess if you consider the Joe Theismann -> Alex Smith story, it's not that crazy.
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Quinn is Rivera 2.0.

I can understand hiring a defensive coach, but it makes little sense when the skins wanted an offensive guy. And, you go defense, but you don’t entertain Belichick or Vrabel?

There’s no world where Quinn is better than those two.

Same clown show in Washington. What a disappointment.

Ever think of the possibility that neither one wanted the job?

Belichick knows football history and he probably knows Vince Lombardi went to the Redskins after Green Bay...and then died soon after.




What I was expecting: The WTF still has that Dan Snyder stank all up in the carpet and the bed sheets.

What I read: Belichick would die there.

But I guess if you consider the Joe Theismann -> Alex Smith story, it's not that crazy.


Maybe neither wanted the job, but you would’ve heard that the skins reached out. That never hit the news cycle.

And Bill was willing to take the gig in ATL. That’s not much a step up from DC.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:53:08 PM EDT
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24 4k zoom capable cameras
20 pylon cameras
24 robotic operated cameras
48 super slo motion cameras
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6 brand new "doink" cameras (mounted high up on the FG uprights)
5 sky / fly cameras
3 drone cameras
5 shallow DOF cameras (endzone celebration cameras)
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3 dedicated Taylor Swift views
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:53:19 PM EDT
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I think Belichick is still a dangerous coach, and I was dreading the possibility of him coming to the AFC West, but he does have downsides, and I could see an argument for hiring Vrabel over him.

I thought Vrabel would get the Pats job, and I thought his traits made him a good solution to the problems in Atlanta and Carolina, but all three teams chose options I think are a lot more questionable.
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So Belichick and Vrabel are out of the running for any head coaching jobs.

Wild.


How can you hire Vrabel if BB is available and no GM wants BB because he wants to be in complete control, is an asshole, is too old and only will realistically coach 2 to 3 years, has a bad record without Brady etc.

Basically BB is a bad hire and his being on the market opens up criticism for anyone going with Vrabel.

Risk averse GMs will avoid both.


This is how:



I think Belichick is still a dangerous coach, and I was dreading the possibility of him coming to the AFC West, but he does have downsides, and I could see an argument for hiring Vrabel over him.

I thought Vrabel would get the Pats job, and I thought his traits made him a good solution to the problems in Atlanta and Carolina, but all three teams chose options I think are a lot more questionable.


At this point Vrabel is the better choice, but second rate GMs are afraid of hearing all the criticism that they hired a Great Value BB instead of the real deal.

You know the Cowherd and Bayless types will relentlessly criticize them if they don’t win immediately for that choice.

A smart GM will pick Vrabel but these aren’t smart GMs.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:59:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/1/2024 2:12:18 PM EDT
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I’m kinda surprised how it rarely seems to be brought up that the Dolphins, despite being loaded the past few seasons, are the only NFL team not to win a playoff game this century.

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Link Posted: 2/1/2024 2:14:07 PM EDT
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Maybe neither wanted the job, but you would’ve heard that the skins reached out. That never hit the news cycle.

And Bill was willing to take the gig in ATL. That’s not much a step up from DC.
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Quinn is Rivera 2.0.

I can understand hiring a defensive coach, but it makes little sense when the skins wanted an offensive guy. And, you go defense, but you don’t entertain Belichick or Vrabel?

There’s no world where Quinn is better than those two.

Same clown show in Washington. What a disappointment.

Ever think of the possibility that neither one wanted the job?

Belichick knows football history and he probably knows Vince Lombardi went to the Redskins after Green Bay...and then died soon after.




What I was expecting: The WTF still has that Dan Snyder stank all up in the carpet and the bed sheets.

What I read: Belichick would die there.

But I guess if you consider the Joe Theismann -> Alex Smith story, it's not that crazy.


Maybe neither wanted the job, but you would’ve heard that the skins reached out. That never hit the news cycle.

And Bill was willing to take the gig in ATL. That’s not much a step up from DC.


I also don't remember them being mentioned, but I guess it happened:



Insert 28-3 reference here.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 2:19:51 PM EDT
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There's been good coordinators become amazing HCs and amazing coordinators fail at HC and no one really knows until they take the jobs.

I'm not a fan of Vrabel--I've seen some bad clock management and in-game decisions in every Titans game I've seen, maybe 7-8.

But the best explanation is that there wasn't a job he was sold on, and another 8 teams will be looking next year that might be a better fit.
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There may more than a few HC openings next year with a much better QB compared to this year with only Justin Herbert as the exception.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 2:29:31 PM EDT
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7 years later and I still can’t fully wrap my head about what happened in the last 1 1/2 quarters of that game.

Perhaps the most perplexing is the Falcons having a 1st and 10 on the Patriots 22 with about 4 minutes left and leading by 8.

The Falcons milked about 30 seconds off the clock and PUNTED.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 2:29:56 PM EDT
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The Packers Hire Jeff Hafley as Defensive Coordinator
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 2:33:58 PM EDT
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Things I learned:

Mark Andrews has Type 1 'beetus.

Mark Andrews flies Southwest.

"Medical professionals" needed help from a NFL TE to save a woman's life in a medical emergency.

Link Posted: 2/1/2024 2:43:20 PM EDT
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Mark Andrews has Type 1 'beetus.

Mark Andrews flies Southwest.

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They needed his blood sugar kit, it's not hard.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 2:52:57 PM EDT
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7 years later and I still can’t fully wrap my head about what happened in the last 1 1/2 quarters of that game.

Perhaps the most perplexing is the Falcons having a 1st and 10 on the Patriots 22 with about 4 minutes left and leading by 8.

The Falcons milked about 30 seconds off the clock and PUNTED.
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Kind of the same reason why Detroit lost to the '49ers on Sunday. Terrible choices by the coaching staff. Atlanta should have snapped the ball with one second left on the play clock three successive times as they ran dives. Even if they didn't gain a single yard, they'd have run 45 seconds off the clock each play (unless NE called timeout, which they had three at the time). Either way, you'd leave the Patriots with no timeouts and then proceed to kick a FG with 2:00 left, now up by 10 points. Game over.

Statistically, there was no reason whatsoever for Atlanta to lose that game. Not a single one. They broke the mold for "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory."

ETA: I just looked, and on the big play to Julio Jones on the sideline...Matt Ryan snapped the ball with 13 seconds left on the play clock.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 2:59:47 PM EDT
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Ravens have promoted Zach Orr to DC.

Orr (31) is a former Ravens player turned coach. Coaching history:
BAL Defensive Analyst 2017-20
JAX OLB Coach 2021
BAL ILB Coach 2022-23

Basically, was an intern for 4 years. Then he went from a linebacker coach to defensive coordinator after just 3 seasons. That's a quick rise. Will make note to see what happens with him in the next couple years.

Edit: Was a UFA LB for the Ravens. Played less than 150 defensive snaps in 2014 and 2015. His playtime and performance exploded in 2016 when he made it as an AP2. Played 98% of the snaps that season with 3 INTs, 5 PD, 1 FF, 2 FR and 133 tackles. Was revealed he has a congenital spine issue and was forced to retire for medical reasons. Immediately made an intern for the Ravens after that.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 4:14:38 PM EDT
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I always enjoy a good Arrested Development reference.

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Link Posted: 2/1/2024 4:23:44 PM EDT
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New owner same dumpster fire.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 4:39:52 PM EDT
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New owner same dumpster fire.
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New owner same dumpster fire.

Hire a guy that had 3 winning seasons in 9 years as an NFL HC.

Fire him after he couldn’t produce a single winning season in 4 years for you.

Hire a guy that had 2 winning seasons in 6 years as an NFL HC.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 4:46:40 PM EDT
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Former Colts CB Isaiah Rodgers Sr., who placed hundreds of bets in amounts worth $25-$50 that led to his suspension from the NFL and subsequent release from the Colts last summer, spoke with ESPN's Outside the Lines which will air during multiple editions of SportsCenter on ESPN tomorrow. Some quotes from an early release of the segment:

Stated that a friend of his used his account to make a bet on Jonathan Taylor (which paid out) while he was warming up on the field before a Colts game in 2022. "Once my phone was geotagged from the first bet, I have to take accountability for every bet."

Said he started betting for his friends and family who live in Florida (no legal sportsbook app gambling). "I never included myself into any of the gambling. I never took any dollar. I never took a dollar for me. I never placed a bet for me to win."

Admitted to having and using two different cellphones and making bets from the Colts facilities. "I knew the rules. I knew I wasn't supposed to do it. I have to take what comes with it." He ended up losing out on $2.8 million of his $3.4 million rookie contract as a result of his suspension and release.

"I question myself, too. I thought I probably wouldn't get caught. I wouldn't get in trouble. I was just being a good-hearted person, trying to help people. It will never happen again. Never."
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 4:54:13 PM EDT
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I am glad the lady is OK, but I really wish it had been Gronk
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 4:57:30 PM EDT
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They had the exact same percentage of winning seasons as an NFL HC prior to being hired by the Redskins, so, yeah, pretty much.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 5:32:49 PM EDT
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Good news for the 49ers!


Link Posted: 2/1/2024 5:40:47 PM EDT
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During his HC announcement press conference, Jim Harbaugh said, "I'm so excited. If I could describe it to you, it would be like Morgan Freeman in Shawshank Redemption."


ESPN: "White Head Coach of LA Chargers compares Michigan tenure to being a black man in prison"
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 5:51:46 PM EDT
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In the Swift scenario, he has a career game.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 5:56:11 PM EDT
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Terrell Williams, the Titans Assistant HC/DL Coach, is leaving Tennessee to become the Run Game Coordinator/DL Coach for the Detroit Lions.

He was probably on his way out in TN with Brian Callahan coming in anyways. So polite parting of ways as he joins Dan Campbell's staff.
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I will say this. I prefer seeing Taylor after every Kelce TD over seeing Brittnay after every Mahomes TD. But now we sometimes get the shots of them both together and I just want to...


Link Posted: 2/1/2024 6:10:36 PM EDT
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Terrell Williams, the Titans Assistant HC/DL Coach, is leaving Tennessee to become the Run Game Coordinator/DL Coach for the Detroit Lions.

He was probably on his way out in TN with Brian Callahan coming in anyways. So polite parting of ways as he joins Dan Campbell's staff.
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I know Terrell and his family.  Good dude and I'm glad they are landing on their feet.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 6:20:19 PM EDT
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Marvin Lewis, as rumored/expected, will join the Las Vegas Raiders as the Assistant Head Coach.

Antonio Pierce had brought in Marvin Lewis, who coached him when he was a player in Washington in 2002, and who he worked with at Arizona State in 2019-2021, to help him when he transitioned to Interim Head Coach this season. Now he is taking the official role.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 6:25:54 PM EDT
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That's... not bad?
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There are only a few top qb’s, that is always going to be the way it is.

The league needs to wise up and not give guys like Dak and Cousins the same deals as the absolute top guys.

Their money would be better spent elsewhere.
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"Allen, Jackson, and Herbert aren't coming to Dallas, so there's no possibility to upgrade."  

I mean, I don't think they should replace Dak either, but these arguments are just

I agree with that last one.  That is always my first question.   Who are they getting as QB to replace him?




There are only a few top qb’s, that is always going to be the way it is.

The league needs to wise up and not give guys like Dak and Cousins the same deals as the absolute top guys.

Their money would be better spent elsewhere.

Agreed, but Jerry about to make Dak the highest paid play of all time.
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Good to bring in a veteran, experienced, coach to be the OC to help out Mayo.
Almost 20 years as an offensive coach in the NFL.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 7:30:29 PM EDT
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Fire him after he couldn’t produce a single winning season in 4 years for you.

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They had the exact same percentage of winning seasons as an NFL HC prior to being hired by the Redskins, so, yeah, pretty much.
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They had the exact same percentage of winning seasons as an NFL HC prior to being hired by the Redskins, so, yeah, pretty much.


They hired a whole firm to help in the head coaching search. So you’re telling me after striking out on who they really wanted, Quinn was who they really wanted?
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Well this was an interesting find.  

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Do you mind sharing those drugs?
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Yep
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