User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 12:37:14 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can’t say I blame Wilson. Given the option of living in Denver or Philadelphia, it’s a no-brainer. Hell, living in pretty much any city or town in the US instead of Philly would be a no-brainer.  Denver is such a mess I can't imagine how bad Philly is. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 12:38:03 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, Mina compares Dak to Drew Brees on stats. But the big difference of course is style. Dak is one of several quarterbacks who put up big numbers as dual threat guys. Then they get older and want to be pocket passers. The question I have is this: Has anyone actually made the transition? Off the top of my head, I can't really think of a guy who started as a dual threat guy who you could point to and say "wow, he's turned into a really great pocket passer." Steve Young maybe? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last year Dak also led the NFL in INTs thrown that were NOT "turnover-worthy" meaning a lot of the INTs weren't his fault. Of course many people didn't let a little thing like that get in the way of their Dak narrative. The most obvious example was when the throw in the pic below resulted in a game-ending pick six and the usual suspects blamed it all on Dak for "throwing a horrible INT," "choking," "costing his team the game," etc. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/D8F917AC-2038-4FF7-B2B1-69D6E11D4708_jpe-2837436.JPG Vick? |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 12:40:48 PM EDT
[#3]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 12:51:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Vick? |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 12:55:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
They haven’t won a Super Bowl since 1996. I can’t say I give a shit about simply making it to a Conference Championship game. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 12:57:07 PM EDT
[#6]
Steelers have moved Kendrick Green back to back up center.
 Dude is not a center and should have been released. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 2:17:04 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t speak to that. I’d bang her, but that’s where my interest in anything regarding that woman ends.  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 3:06:17 PM EDT
[#8]
I thought they had a contract that didn't allow this... Things looked like they were almost done, I guess not. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 3:16:13 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Last year Dak also led the NFL in INTs thrown that were NOT “turnover-worthy” meaning a lot of the INTs weren’t his fault. Of course many people didn’t let a little thing like that get in the way of their Dak narrative. The most obvious example was when the throw in the pic below resulted in a game-ending pick six and the usual suspects blamed it all on Dak for “throwing a horrible INT,” “choking,” “costing his team the game,” etc. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/D8F917AC-2038-4FF7-B2B1-69D6E11D4708_jpe-2837436.JPG Agreed. That TE that walked, he would smack the ball up into the air instead of catching it. I remember at least 3 INTs because of that last season. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 3:17:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is because defenses figured out to simply drop back in coverage to force Dak to make reads. If they continue to do it again this year, I expect his numbers to be the same. Granted if they can improve the running game even just slightly more, it will help his passing as he can pass in basic coverage. I would say that Daks ability to read defenses could improve. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 3:20:08 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 3:34:53 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, Mina compares Dak to Drew Brees on stats. But the big difference of course is style. Dak is one of several quarterbacks who put up big numbers as dual threat guys. Then they get older and want to be pocket passers. The question I have is this: Has anyone actually made the transition? Off the top of my head, I can't really think of a guy who started as a dual threat guy who you could point to and say "wow, he's turned into a really great pocket passer." Steve Young maybe? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last year Dak also led the NFL in INTs thrown that were NOT "turnover-worthy" meaning a lot of the INTs weren't his fault. Of course many people didn't let a little thing like that get in the way of their Dak narrative. The most obvious example was when the throw in the pic below resulted in a game-ending pick six and the usual suspects blamed it all on Dak for "throwing a horrible INT," "choking," "costing his team the game," etc. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/D8F917AC-2038-4FF7-B2B1-69D6E11D4708_jpe-2837436.JPG Was Dak ever really a dual threat guy? In 7 seasons, he has two with 300+ rushing yards and his career high was 357 yards. In 2022, there were 9 QBs with 300+ rushing yards: Fields - 1,143 LJax - 764 Allen - 762 Hurts - 760 Jones - 708 Mariota - 438 Murray - 418 Geno - 366 Mahomes - 358 All of these guys rushed for more yardage just last year than Dak ever has. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 3:59:44 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was Dak ever really a dual threat guy? In 7 seasons, he has two with 300+ rushing yards and his career high was 357 yards. In 2022, there were 9 QBs with 300+ rushing yards: Fields - 1,143 LJax - 764 Allen - 762 Hurts - 760 Jones - 708 Mariota - 438 Murray - 418 Geno - 366 Mahomes - 358 All of these guys rushed for more yardage just last year than Dak ever has. The question I have is more philosophical. A lot of commentators seem to take it for granted that you can transition to a pocket passer. I'm not sure we've actually seen it though. I think they're underestimating the skill set needed to be a pocket passer. It's more than just big arm, which Dak clearly has. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 4:04:30 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
You will always have americancake_queen 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 4:11:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. That TE that walked, he would smack the ball up into the air instead of catching it. I remember at least 3 INTs because of that last season. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last year Dak also led the NFL in INTs thrown that were NOT “turnover-worthy” meaning a lot of the INTs weren’t his fault. Of course many people didn’t let a little thing like that get in the way of their Dak narrative. The most obvious example was when the throw in the pic below resulted in a game-ending pick six and the usual suspects blamed it all on Dak for “throwing a horrible INT,” “choking,” “costing his team the game,” etc. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/D8F917AC-2038-4FF7-B2B1-69D6E11D4708_jpe-2837436.JPG Agreed. That TE that walked, he would smack the ball up into the air instead of catching it. I remember at least 3 INTs because of that last season. Haha, yeah one of them in particular was so bad it almost seemed like he did it intentionally.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/2/2023 5:06:54 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just going off memory, he tended to have at least one or two big runs a game. It was enough that you had to respect it, which opened up passing lanes. He's probably more Steve Young than Michael Vick. He never needed the kind of laser accuracy that a Brees or Rodgers had. But for very understandable reasons Dak wants to run less. The question I have is more philosophical. A lot of commentators seem to take it for granted that you can transition to a pocket passer. I'm not sure we've actually seen it though. I think they're underestimating the skill set needed to be a pocket passer. It's more than just big arm, which Dak clearly has. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was Dak ever really a dual threat guy? In 7 seasons, he has two with 300+ rushing yards and his career high was 357 yards. In 2022, there were 9 QBs with 300+ rushing yards: Fields - 1,143 LJax - 764 Allen - 762 Hurts - 760 Jones - 708 Mariota - 438 Murray - 418 Geno - 366 Mahomes - 358 All of these guys rushed for more yardage just last year than Dak ever has. The question I have is more philosophical. A lot of commentators seem to take it for granted that you can transition to a pocket passer. I'm not sure we've actually seen it though. I think they're underestimating the skill set needed to be a pocket passer. It's more than just big arm, which Dak clearly has. FWIW, statistically his running stats are marginally better than a young Rodgers. That's not a bad thing IMO. As far as the transition between scrambler/dual threat QB and pocket passing QB, I don't think anyone has been elite at both. I think you have guys like Mahomes or a young Rodgers who have elite arm talent while in the pocket or scrambling, plus just enough wheels to opportunistically break off a good run. Then you have guys like Brady who are elite pocket passers and look like a liability when they do run. Then you have guys like Vick or Groot that are RB's with an arm. I only mentioned Vick because in the 2nd half of his career he wasn't as reliant on his legs. He wasn't really a pocket passer though, more like the Rodgers/Mahomes kind of QB but with less arm talent. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/3/2023 5:28:25 PM EDT
[#17]
Bills gave Ed Oliver a 4 year/$68M/$45M extension.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/3/2023 5:38:48 PM EDT
[#18]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/3/2023 5:40:55 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haha, yeah one of them in particular was so bad it almost seemed like he did it intentionally. I am sure it wasn't on purpose. But a couple, it looked like the fucker was playing volleyball. I also think that with Amari gone, there were a few instances of recievers running the wrong routes. But, Dak does need to cut back on INTs this year, no question. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/4/2023 7:24:34 PM EDT
[#20]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/4/2023 7:53:27 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote History The Office:Michael Scott-Stay Calm |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/4/2023 8:12:48 PM EDT
[#22]
Seems like they are speculating on the reason he shook his head????
Maybe he shook his head because he was think, "Damn bro...I want to win a Super Bowl before I retire."
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/4/2023 8:14:29 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
Yeah , the JJ vs JJ feud really fucked us Cowboys fans over . They maybe could have had success like Belichik and Kraft had . We will never know .
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/4/2023 9:35:27 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah , the JJ vs JJ feud really fucked us Cowboys fans over . They maybe could have had success like Belichik and Kraft had . We will never know . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
Yeah , the JJ vs JJ feud really fucked us Cowboys fans over . They maybe could have had success like Belichik and Kraft had . We will never know . I very, very much doubt it. For his entire 35 year coaching career Jimmy Johnson was never in the same place for more than 5 seasons. I don't think Jimmy was going to stick around for much longer (damn sure not 15+ years) regardless of what Jerry did. Not to mention, the primary reason the Patriots dynasty happened was, IMO, because they had the GOAT for nearly two decades. Whereas the Cowboys had a QB who needed the best O-line in NFL history, the NFL career rushing leader, a Hall of Fame WR, an All Pro TE, a top 5 defense, and a Hall of Fame coach just so he could be above average - good. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/4/2023 9:58:42 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I very, very much doubt it. For his entire 35 year coaching career Jimmy Johnson was never in the same place for more than 5 seasons. I don't think Jimmy was going to stick around for much longer (damn sure not 15+ years) regardless of what Jerry did. Not to mention, the primary reason the Patriots dynasty happened was, IMO, because they had the GOAT for nearly two decades. Whereas the Cowboys had a QB who needed the best O-line in NFL history, the NFL career rushing leader, a Hall of Fame WR, an All Pro TE, a top 5 defense, and a Hall of Fame coach just so he could be above average - good. Yes , you are correct , but damnit if they weren’t fucking great during those years ! I was a fan of the ‘boys back during the Tom Landry’s 70’s years . |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/4/2023 10:06:11 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I very, very much doubt it. For his entire 35 year coaching career Jimmy Johnson was never in the same place for more than 5 seasons. I don't think Jimmy was going to stick around for much longer (damn sure not 15+ years) regardless of what Jerry did. Not to mention, the primary reason the Patriots dynasty happened was, IMO, because they had the GOAT for nearly two decades. Whereas the Cowboys had a QB who needed the best O-line in NFL history, the NFL career rushing leader, a Hall of Fame WR, an All Pro TE, a top 5 defense, and a Hall of Fame coach just so he could be above average - good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:
Yeah , the JJ vs JJ feud really fucked us Cowboys fans over . They maybe could have had success like Belichik and Kraft had . We will never know . I very, very much doubt it. For his entire 35 year coaching career Jimmy Johnson was never in the same place for more than 5 seasons. I don't think Jimmy was going to stick around for much longer (damn sure not 15+ years) regardless of what Jerry did. Not to mention, the primary reason the Patriots dynasty happened was, IMO, because they had the GOAT for nearly two decades. Whereas the Cowboys had a QB who needed the best O-line in NFL history, the NFL career rushing leader, a Hall of Fame WR, an All Pro TE, a top 5 defense, and a Hall of Fame coach just so he could be above average - good. Jimmy secretly interviewed with Jacksonville during the 93 season. He had a date in his calendar as to when he was leaving Dallas. He was never staying put. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 12:26:52 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I very, very much doubt it. For his entire 35 year coaching career Jimmy Johnson was never in the same place for more than 5 seasons. I don't think Jimmy was going to stick around for much longer (damn sure not 15+ years) regardless of what Jerry did. Not to mention, the primary reason the Patriots dynasty happened was, IMO, because they had the GOAT for nearly two decades. Whereas the Cowboys had a QB who needed the best O-line in NFL history, the NFL career rushing leader, a Hall of Fame WR, an All Pro TE, a top 5 defense, and a Hall of Fame coach just so he could be above average - good.  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 1:29:32 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop. Just stop. I'll tolerate many things from a Cowboys fan, but this is beyond the pale. There is only one acceptable answer. Jerruh Jones is the sole cause of everything wrong with the Cowboys . . . and America. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-95.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I very, very much doubt it. For his entire 35 year coaching career Jimmy Johnson was never in the same place for more than 5 seasons. I don't think Jimmy was going to stick around for much longer (damn sure not 15+ years) regardless of what Jerry did. Not to mention, the primary reason the Patriots dynasty happened was, IMO, because they had the GOAT for nearly two decades. Whereas the Cowboys had a QB who needed the best O-line in NFL history, the NFL career rushing leader, a Hall of Fame WR, an All Pro TE, a top 5 defense, and a Hall of Fame coach just so he could be above average - good. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-95.gif Oh, you done it now. He just went to make a pot of coffee... (I suffer from JDS as well) |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 11:09:07 AM EDT
[#29]
Was arrested in 2018 for driving on a suspended license and possession (with the Browns). Has been suspended for 18 total games for substance abuse. Signed on with the XFL in 2020 but was injured and dropped. Hasn't played in a game since 2020 when he had 2 receptions for the Dolphins playing 56 snaps in 4 games. Signed to the Cowboys practice squad last season. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 11:24:07 AM EDT
[#30]
 Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 11:39:09 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/1zvslystz4-7.gif 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 12:04:46 PM EDT
[#32]
Bills biggest weakness right now is roster spots.
They're going to cut about 6 guys they really don't want to On the other hand they still don't have a starter at MLB or ROT |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 12:10:48 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah , the JJ vs JJ feud really fucked us Cowboys fans over . They maybe could have had success like Belichik and Kraft had . We will never know . Implementation of the salary cap ended the Cowboy dynasty more than Jimmy’s frustration with Jerry. It meant that payroll was no longer the pathway to success. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 12:18:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I only mentioned Vick because in the 2nd half of his career he wasn't as reliant on his legs. He wasn't really a pocket passer though, more like the Rodgers/Mahomes kind of QB but with less arm talent.  Mahomes and Rodgers are both a million times the QB that Vick was for a lot of reasons, but I contend that nobody has ever had more arm talent than he did. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 1:37:14 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Implementation of the salary cap ended the Cowboy dynasty more than Jimmy’s frustration with Jerry. It meant that payroll was no longer the pathway to success. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah , the JJ vs JJ feud really fucked us Cowboys fans over . They maybe could have had success like Belichik and Kraft had . We will never know . Implementation of the salary cap ended the Cowboy dynasty more than Jimmy’s frustration with Jerry. It meant that payroll was no longer the pathway to success. The salary cap actually would’ve helped the Cowboys, which is why Jerry was the one pushing for it. For an NFL owner, Jerry Jones really isn’t all that rich. Jerry knew if other, far wealthier, owners started to REALLY open up their checkbooks there would be no way for Jerry to compete. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 1:40:51 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mahomes and Rodgers are both a million times the QB that Vick was for a lot of reasons, but I contend that nobody has ever had more arm talent than he did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I only mentioned Vick because in the 2nd half of his career he wasn't as reliant on his legs. He wasn't really a pocket passer though, more like the Rodgers/Mahomes kind of QB but with less arm talent. Mahomes and Rodgers are both a million times the QB that Vick was for a lot of reasons, but I contend that nobody has ever had more arm talent than he did. Including Marino and Elway? |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 1:49:37 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The salary cap actually would’ve helped the Cowboys, which is why Jerry was the one pushing for it. For an NFL owner, Jerry Jones really isn’t all that rich. Jerry knew if other, far wealthier, owners started to REALLY open up their checkbooks there would be no way for Jerry to compete. I don’t remember it happening that way, at all. I remember Eddie DeBartolo, Jr., and Jerry in an arms race for about 5-6 years with two teams loaded with Hall of Famers that they couldn’t monopolize once the cap was implemented. Regardless, if Jerry did want the cap, do you think it has worked out as he intended? The Cowboys are valuable, he didn’t go broke on All Pros….but he hasn’t won anything since, either. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 1:51:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Including Marino and Elway? Yes, and they were both also a million times better as QBs. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 4:36:18 PM EDT
[#39]
Via The Athletic: NFL players on gambling policy, suspensions: 'That could have been any one of us'
Both agents [Peter Schaffer + anonymous agent] said that since the April suspensions, they have heard from players confessing they now know they’ve violated the league’s gambling policy. “I have a player who has said to me, I bet from the facility, $3 or $5 bets on other sports,” said the second veteran agent, who asked for and was granted anonymity so his client could not be identified. “He said, ‘What do I do?’ I said, ‘Don’t volunteer anything. But if somebody asks you, you have to be honest. They likely have evidence.'” Article says, from the players they interviewed, 80% didn't know it was illegal to gamble from work/team facilities on their phones. 7 year veteran player: “I had no idea. I don’t think any player knows about that. That’s so specific. If players know about that, kudos to them.” 9 year veteran player: “I thought that you couldn’t bet on anything during the NFL season." (Incorrect) 10 year veteran player: “I don’t even know what the rule is, or when the rule changed or the fine print on what you can or can’t gamble on." Article has some Q&A with anonymous players about gambling. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 5:07:04 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Via The Athletic: NFL players on gambling policy, suspensions: 'That could have been any one of us' Both agents [Peter Schaffer + anonymous agent] said that since the April suspensions, they have heard from players confessing they now know they’ve violated the league’s gambling policy. “I have a player who has said to me, I bet from the facility, $3 or $5 bets on other sports,” said the second veteran agent, who asked for and was granted anonymity so his client could not be identified. “He said, ‘What do I do?’ I said, ‘Don’t volunteer anything. But if somebody asks you, you have to be honest. They likely have evidence.'” Article says, from the players they interviewed, 80% didn't know it was illegal to gamble from work/team facilities on their phones. 7 year veteran player: “I had no idea. I don’t think any player knows about that. That’s so specific. If players know about that, kudos to them.” 9 year veteran player: “I thought that you couldn’t bet on anything during the NFL season." (Incorrect) 10 year veteran player: “I don’t even know what the rule is, or when the rule changed or the fine print on what you can or can’t gamble on." Article has some Q&A with anonymous players about gambling. I guess I don't understand the big deal, as long as they don't bet on themselves to lose and take a dive. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 5:16:05 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t remember it happening that way, at all. I remember Eddie DeBartolo, Jr., and Jerry in an arms race for about 5-6 years with two teams loaded with Hall of Famers that they couldn’t monopolize once the cap was implemented. Regardless, if Jerry did want the cap, do you think it has worked out as he intended? The Cowboys are valuable, he didn’t go broke on All Pros….but he hasn’t won anything since, either. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The salary cap actually would’ve helped the Cowboys, which is why Jerry was the one pushing for it. For an NFL owner, Jerry Jones really isn’t all that rich. Jerry knew if other, far wealthier, owners started to REALLY open up their checkbooks there would be no way for Jerry to compete. I don’t remember it happening that way, at all. I remember Eddie DeBartolo, Jr., and Jerry in an arms race for about 5-6 years with two teams loaded with Hall of Famers that they couldn’t monopolize once the cap was implemented. Regardless, if Jerry did want the cap, do you think it has worked out as he intended? The Cowboys are valuable, he didn’t go broke on All Pros….but he hasn’t won anything since, either. I’m talking about your claim of “implementation of the salary cap ended the Cowboy dynasty more than Jimmy’s frustration with Jerry.” What did or didn’t happen over a decade after that is a different conversation. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 5:16:41 PM EDT
[#42]
Via Brandon Beane, the new Bills stadium will be natural gas with heated coils underneath to keep it from freezing up. The Bills have not used natural gas since 1972 at War Memorial stadium.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 5:19:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Via Brandon Beane, the new Bills stadium will be natural gas with heated coils underneath to keep it from freezing up. The Bills have not used natural gas since 1972 at War Memorial stadium. They should have went with propane, I tell you what. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 6:12:34 PM EDT
[#44]
6th round pick in 2020, so entering his 4th season. He's their kick returner. 61 returns in 45 game appearances. 1,645 yards (27.0 per return), 1 run back for a TD. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 7:46:22 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Was arrested in 2018 for driving on a suspended license and possession (with the Browns). Has been suspended for 18 total games for substance abuse. Signed on with the XFL in 2020 but was injured and dropped. Hasn't played in a game since 2020 when he had 2 receptions for the Dolphins playing 56 snaps in 4 games. Signed to the Cowboys practice squad last season. And he’s gone. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 7:49:48 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m talking about your claim of “implementation of the salary cap ended the Cowboy dynasty more than Jimmy’s frustration with Jerry.” What did or didn’t happen over a decade after that is a different conversation. ??? The salary cap was implemented between the 1993 and 1994 seasons? Dallas and San Fran both won one more, but it was the end of the era. Only SF has made it back to a NFCCG or SB since, and they didn’t win. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 7:54:14 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mahomes and Rodgers are both a million times the QB that Vick was for a lot of reasons, but I contend that nobody has ever had more arm talent than he did. I'll take that bet for $1. Bert Jones (Colts) & Sonny Jurgensen (Redskins) are two that come to mind with as good as or better arms than Vick. Terry Bradshaw is another that might be as good as well. Bobby Layne is another QB I could list. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 7:57:22 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I don't understand the big deal, as long as they don't bet on themselves to lose and take a dive. Suggest you read up on the 1919 Chicago White Sox. What would a player say when he's $3-400,000 in debt to the bookies & they "politely suggest" he drop a critical pass here & there? |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 8:39:20 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ??? The salary cap was implemented between the 1993 and 1994 seasons? Dallas and San Fran both won one more, but it was the end of the era. Only SF has made it back to a NFCCG or SB since, and they didn’t win. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m talking about your claim of “implementation of the salary cap ended the Cowboy dynasty more than Jimmy’s frustration with Jerry.” What did or didn’t happen over a decade after that is a different conversation. ??? The salary cap was implemented between the 1993 and 1994 seasons? Dallas and San Fran both won one more, but it was the end of the era. Only SF has made it back to a NFCCG or SB since, and they didn’t win. I'm talking specifically about the 90s Cowboys' dynasty and what was the primary reason it ended. You started talking about what happened over the next quarter of a century after it ended and I'm just saying that's a different conversation from what I'm talking about. |
|
|
|
Posted: 6/5/2023 11:02:18 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Suggest you read up on the 1919 Chicago White Sox. What would a player say when he's $3-400,000 in debt to the bookies & they "politely suggest" he drop a critical pass here & there? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I guess I don't understand the big deal, as long as they don't bet on themselves to lose and take a dive. Suggest you read up on the 1919 Chicago White Sox. What would a player say when he's $3-400,000 in debt to the bookies & they "politely suggest" he drop a critical pass here & there? There is a huge difference between betting on sports in 1919 with a bookie/mobster and betting on sports in 2023 with FanDuel/Draftkings. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
