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Posted: 11/4/2015 10:38:51 AM EST
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Man, the cheese maker just played John Wayne Gacy on American Horror Story this week. Yes, and he was really good in that role too. He was also Twisty the clown last season. http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/tumblr_nd64ckhzwh1rq0qjio1_500.gif More nopes than a spider petting zoo |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 10:45:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit I hope no cure is found. I want it to be 100% doom & gloom like "The Road"  God...that fucking movie. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 10:48:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: God...that fucking movie. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Shit I hope no cure is found. I want it to be 100% doom & gloom like "The Road" God...that fucking movie. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 10:55:01 AM EST
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I've come to the conclusion that this episode was for done for all the Morgan fanbois the show has. Everything in that episode could have been exposed in another way in less than 15 minutes. We get it...Morgan is one of the last vessels of (conflicted) walking humanity on the show but we didn't need 90 minutes of backstory with Donatello. The episode was also a good excuse for a budget episode as well. Only one main character, one special guest character and four extra characters and a goat to pay. Stab, stab, stab, kill, kill, kill, Hulk smash! Now that makes a good TV show! Character development is for faggots. character development is good. predictable, uncreative character development is boring. Looks like I got your goat... Don't get me wrong. I thought it was a well acted episode. I thought Lenny James and John Carroll Lynch were great. I get that the TWD producers look for every excuse to have a couple budget episodes per season but I just don't think 90 minutes of basic and predictable back story explaining how Morgan went all Kumbaya was needed. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 10:57:41 AM EST
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John Carrol Lynch - not a member of Tenacious D: http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI3NjM3MDg4N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDk5NDMz._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg Kyle Gass of Tenacious D: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Kyle_Gass.jpg I can see how you might confuse the two. Kyle was hilarious in Elf. Lynch was Frances McDormand's husband in Fargo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I liked last night's episode. My takeaways from it were: - Lenny James is a great actor - The other guy from Tenacious D is also a great actor - Stephen Williams is either a pseudonym for Terrence Malick or he had the Terrance Malick playbook open to page one - If there was an episode this season that could be submitted for an award and have the words "for your consideration" put in front of it, it is this one It will be interesting to see where they go from here with Morgan. The episodes leading up to this one painted a picture of Morgan's absolutism but the episode last night showed us a man who's convictions may be built on feet of clay. I can see the stars aligning for one hell of a mid season finale if things continue on this course. John Carrol Lynch - not a member of Tenacious D: http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI3NjM3MDg4N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDk5NDMz._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg Kyle Gass of Tenacious D: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Kyle_Gass.jpg I can see how you might confuse the two. Kyle was hilarious in Elf. Lynch was Frances McDormand's husband in Fargo. The three cent Mallard stamp. People need the little stamps, too!
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Posted: 11/4/2015 12:27:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit...so gut wrenching. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Shit I hope no cure is found. I want it to be 100% doom & gloom like "The Road" God...that fucking movie. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 12:47:50 PM EST
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FKeep in mind Jenner mentioned that the zombie virus was not the only bug kept at the
CDC .he mentioned that every bad bug known to man was there. And if released could set loose a plague across the country and world that would eliminate mankind. So it had to go boom!  
Eastman and a psychopath.: My take on it was the psychopath killed his wife and children and he plotted and eventually kidnapped and killed the psychopath all before the zombie virus started .and only found out about the virus when he eventually went to Alanna months afterwards so in my mind that explains why the psychopath didn't turn. I might be wrong but that's what I got out of it. Judith being a cure. I don't think it's a viable plot. It would be copying Znation that's a switch instead of Z nation copying The Walking DeadAnd they had the good sense to put the kid in permanent daycare. And my thoughts on the Morgan episode was I enjoyed it. Can't have blood and guts in every episode. I think it's served a purpose was well-thought-out just part of the show. Dragon NaturallySpeaking has gone crazy and has a mind of its own so bear with me on the different size fonts it's actually stopped working completely .but they sent me a couple of fixes and we'll see what happens. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 2:33:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then they will be on a mission to get The Judith to the CDC! She will grow up knowing she's special and will be a monumental pain-in-the-ass. Some guy in an NSA listening post will guide them via shortwave radio. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not necessarily. Our major characters have been told that and certainly have witnessed much evidence to support it, but we don't know with 100% certainty that there aren't a tiny percentage of folks who are either naturally immune or were somehow never exposed (since we really don't know the origin). IF (and I personally do NOT think this is where the writer's are headed, FTR) there are such "immunes" among the population, given the SOP adopted by the survivors at this point in the story (ensure head trauma for all dead and undead alike) how would our intrepid crew even discover that? The vast majority of folks dead from natural causes at this point would have been (1) brained by their peers if they are part of a group, (2) found and eaten by walkers if they are not, or (3) squirreled away unfound somewhere. Just a passing thought... again, not where I think all this is going.  It was a huge mistake to let Dr. Jenner commit suicide and allow the CDC research to go up in flames. Monumental mistake. There has got to be other U.S. Facilities and people still alive who could carry on research. Something tells me that sooner or later Rick and his crew will venture into Washington D.C. and learn that there is some facility still operational. I also think we'll find out that Rick's daughter is immune. Then they will be on a mission to get The Judith to the CDC! She will grow up knowing she's special and will be a monumental pain-in-the-ass. Some guy in an NSA listening post will guide them via shortwave radio. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 2:45:59 PM EST
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Eastman and a psychopath.: My take on it was the psychopath killed his wife and children and he plotted and eventually kidnapped and killed the psychopath all before the zombie virus started .and only found out about the virus when he eventually went to Alanna months afterwards so in my mind that explains why the psychopath didn't turn. I might be wrong but that's what I got out of it. So are you saying the reason the guy didn't change was because he wasn't exposed to the strain originally so he wouldn't turn to walker? Wouldn't that mean guys on subs during that time wouldn't change as long as they stayed away from populated areas when everything went down? |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 3:02:11 PM EST
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If there were many episodes like this during the first season there would not have been a second.
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Posted: 11/4/2015 3:11:50 PM EST
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If there were many episodes like this during the first season there would not have been a second. I could say that for multiple episodes from pretty much every season, so that's a moot point. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 3:14:34 PM EST
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Well, I think AMC has been pretty good about wrapping up popular series in the past and I would be pretty surprised and disappointed if there was never any kind of resolution and we leave them on the walls of Alexandria with Walkers all around at the end of the series. I'm glad to hear it's a possibility that not every group of survivors are total maniacs. The apocalypse should be entering a new phase where civilization again starts to appear to certain degrees. Everyone who has survived to this point may certainly be ruthless, but not necessarily "bad." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Show loosely follows the comics - the next several seasons are already written. There will be other good groups & bad groups - the whole WD universe doesn't revolve around Rick's group being the only ones who survived. They've already said that they will never reveal the cause, so there will never be a cure. Eventually the shows ratings will start to tank, it won't be renewed, & the actors will move on with their careers. Well, I think AMC has been pretty good about wrapping up popular series in the past and I would be pretty surprised and disappointed if there was never any kind of resolution and we leave them on the walls of Alexandria with Walkers all around at the end of the series. I'm glad to hear it's a possibility that not every group of survivors are total maniacs. The apocalypse should be entering a new phase where civilization again starts to appear to certain degrees. Everyone who has survived to this point may certainly be ruthless, but not necessarily "bad." If it's anything like the comic books there is no end in sight and it will have to be canceled after season 12 with a mostly new cast of characters. The comic book was initially pitched as a never ending zombie movie because the creator always thought that by the time you really get into the characters of a zombie movie the movie is over. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 3:18:44 PM EST
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I think eventually they do need an immune and search for a cure to come up. Maybe some desperate journey to deliver an immune person to people who can create a cure similar to the video game "The Last of Us" where they could progressively kill off nearly every character until the final episode when they make it. End it with the delivery of the immune person to the scientists and then a flash forward 20 years to a post-Walker infection free world where they remember the folks who died to get the immune person delivered through some memorial similar to the end of "Red Dawn" (the original) or "The Postman." They could have the journey to deliver the immune take them all the way to California where the group that survived up to that point could meet the Fear the Walking Dead folks for a tie in. Nope never gonna happen. It's not that kind of story. Being immune wouldn't do anything for them story wise; never gonna do it. Why rehash the Last of Us? There's already a Last of Us. It was good. No need to copy it in the Walking Dead when there is still 80 issues of Walking Dead that they haven't even touched yet. Why do I type this no one ever listens. By all means prattle on about your show ideas about being immune and how you're a better show runner than the guy with a hit show. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 4:17:45 PM EST
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So are you saying the reason the guy didn't change was because he wasn't exposed to the strain originally so he wouldn't turn to walker? Wouldn't that mean guys on subs during that time wouldn't change as long as they stayed away from populated areas when everything went down? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Eastman and a psychopath.: My take on it was the psychopath killed his wife and children and he plotted and eventually kidnapped and killed the psychopath all before the zombie virus started .and only found out about the virus when he eventually went to Alanna months afterwards so in my mind that explains why the psychopath didn't turn. I might be wrong but that's what I got out of it. So are you saying the reason the guy didn't change was because he wasn't exposed to the strain originally so he wouldn't turn to walker? Wouldn't that mean guys on subs during that time wouldn't change as long as they stayed away from populated areas when everything went down? The psycho didn't change because he died BEFORE all this went down. You don't sit and watch a guy starve to death for 47 days, instantly get remorse and then go turn yourself in; you'd have given him a sandwich if it was that close. The psycho could have died well before the infection took hold anywhere. Eastman could have holed up there for MONTHS, first afraid of being caught, then his conscience finally getting the best of him and he left to turn himself in, only to find that the world went to shit in the time between the psycho's death and his trip to town. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 4:30:30 PM EST
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo.
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Posted: 11/4/2015 4:34:04 PM EST
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 4:34:17 PM EST
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. It is a quite popular HOPE, esp. here, but I haven't seen anything yet to strongly indicate one way or the other. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:01:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:15:20 PM EST
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So are you saying the reason the guy didn't change was because he wasn't exposed to the strain originally so he wouldn't turn to walker? Wouldn't that mean guys on subs during that time wouldn't change as long as they stayed away from populated areas when everything went down? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Eastman and a psychopath.: My take on it was the psychopath killed his wife and children and he plotted and eventually kidnapped and killed the psychopath all before the zombie virus started .and only found out about the virus when he eventually went to Alanna months afterwards so in my mind that explains why the psychopath didn't turn. I might be wrong but that's what I got out of it. So are you saying the reason the guy didn't change was because he wasn't exposed to the strain originally so he wouldn't turn to walker? Wouldn't that mean guys on subs during that time wouldn't change as long as they stayed away from populated areas when everything went down? exactly what I'm saying is that the psychopath was killed before the zombie virus was around. So he died and was buried just like everybody else in the real world. After the zombie virus comes then as far as they presented it everybody instantly has it .before it comes no has it everybody just lives and dies normally. As for people in isolated areas and submarines after the virus comes. I don't know it seems the way they presented regardless of where you are you get it doesn't make sense but it's a horror movie. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:40:23 PM EST
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I've come to the conclusion that this episode was for done for all the Morgan fanbois the show has. Everything in that episode could have been exposed in another way in less than 15 minutes. We get it...Morgan is one of the last vessels of (conflicted) walking humanity on the show but we didn't need 90 minutes of backstory with Donatello. The episode was also a good excuse for a budget episode as well. Only one main character, one special guest character and four extra characters and a goat to pay. Stab, stab, stab, kill, kill, kill, Hulk smash! Now that makes a good TV show! Character development is for faggots. character development is good. predictable, uncreative character development is boring. Looks like I got your goat...
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:40:31 PM EST
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Things to remember in a science-fiction movie anything can happen.
They're not restricted to the real world physics. Anything can happen and does the way firearms work the way people die it doesn't matter it's a science-fiction movie. Not a documentary. It's all good fun. 
SilverBullet, stake in the heart, crucifix, they all work for their intended purpose bullet in the brain after you're dead. .
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:51:58 PM EST
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:18:06 PM EST
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Shit I hope no cure is found. I want it to be 100% doom & gloom like "The Road" God...that fucking movie. Agreed. The picture painted in the book was even more bleak. All the daylight, the lack of constant raining ash and other gruesome acts in the movie made it seem very different. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:34:24 PM EST
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Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. Flight 462 was one of their dumber ideas - it's not watchable in 30 second clips during commercials - it should have been released as a single webisode, which is how most of us will probably watch it after the end of the season. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 7:32:49 PM EST
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Flight 462 was one of their dumber ideas - it's not watchable in 30 second clips during commercials - it should have been released as a single webisode, which is how most of us will probably watch it after the end of the season. I agree completely. It's presentation is just so incredibly disjointed... even in the tiny one minute bites they are dropping it, the viewer loses a ton of continuity between mini episodes which forces them to keep the story ultra simplistic. I'm sure once the whole animal is out and viewed back to back it will be much easier to digest, but as it is now it is just annoying more than interesting. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 7:54:34 PM EST
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didn't care for that episode. I love character development; the episode that had the governor wandering and finding the family was a great episode, you end up even liking the guy momentarily.
This did nothing for morgans character other than taking 90 min to show he met the right type of person to handle ptsd - it would be funny though if eastman was actually the murderer who broke out of the cell killed the real psychologist, than posed as him and trained morgan and sends morgan out thinking he was trained by some peaceful guy. these seasons only have 10 -13 episodes so to have a wasted episode sucks. not the end of the world but based off this episode morgan is going to have ptsd real quick hanging around rick |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 8:35:27 PM EST
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Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/4/2015 9:10:53 PM EST
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. They claim a character from flight 462 will be on Fear after its all done. I could see that happening... remember the shot in I think it was episode 3 or 4 of Fear when the camera focuses on this passenger plane in the sky tipping its wings as is careens on by? It is a little too coincidental in my book. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 9:26:47 PM EST
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didn't care for that episode. I love character development; the episode that had the governor wandering and finding the family was a great episode, you end up even liking the guy momentarily. This did nothing for morgans character other than taking 90 min to show he met the right type of person to handle ptsd - it would be funny though if eastman was actually the murderer who broke out of the cell killed the real psychologist, than posed as him and trained morgan and sends morgan out thinking he was trained by some peaceful guy. these seasons only have 10 -13 episodes so to have a wasted episode sucks. not the end of the world but based off this episode morgan is going to have ptsd real quick hanging around rick 16 episodes |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 9:58:00 PM EST
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didn't care for that episode. I love character development; the episode that had the governor wandering and finding the family was a great episode, you end up even liking the guy momentarily. This did nothing for morgans character other than taking 90 min to show he met the right type of person to handle ptsd - it would be funny though if eastman was actually the murderer who broke out of the cell killed the real psychologist, than posed as him and trained morgan and sends morgan out thinking he was trained by some peaceful guy. these seasons only have 10 -13 episodes so to have a wasted episode sucks. not the end of the world but based off this episode morgan is going to have ptsd real quick hanging around rick 16 episodes That's what bothered me about this episode. There are only four more this year and I didn't like that they used up a whole episode on this one story line. I wouldn't have minded as much if all of the episodes were 90 minutes long. One hour is too quick. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 10:58:18 PM EST
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Man, the cheese maker just played John Wayne Gacy on American Horror Story this week. Yes, and he was really good in that role too. He was also Twisty the clown last season. http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/tumblr_nd64ckhzwh1rq0qjio1_500.gif More nopes than a spider petting zoo Let me help you. 
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Posted: 11/4/2015 11:09:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The book is brutal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Shit I hope no cure is found. I want it to be 100% doom & gloom like "The Road" God...that fucking movie. If by brutal you mean unreadable, you are correct. I didn't get past page 25. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 11:20:45 PM EST
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I liked last night's episode. My takeaways from it were: - Lenny James is a great actor - The other guy from Tenacious D is also a great actor - Stephen Williams is either a pseudonym for Terrence Malick or he had the Terrance Malick playbook open to page one - If there was an episode this season that could be submitted for an award and have the words "for your consideration" put in front of it, it is this one It will be interesting to see where they go from here with Morgan. The episodes leading up to this one painted a picture of Morgan's absolutism but the episode last night showed us a man who's convictions may be built on feet of clay. I can see the stars aligning for one hell of a mid season finale if things continue on this course. That right there is pretty much the only way the writers could "get away" with making an episode this long with so few action- and/or plot-rich moments. I enjoyed the episode. It was, in my opinion, on par with "The Grove" in season 4- which I believe we all agree was excellent. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 5:14:33 AM EST
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Not necessarily. Our major characters have been told that and certainly have witnessed much evidence to support it, but we don't know with 100% certainty that there aren't a tiny percentage of folks who are either naturally immune or were somehow never exposed (since we really don't know the origin). IF (and I personally do NOT think this is where the writer's are headed, FTR) there are such "immunes" among the population, given the SOP adopted by the survivors at this point in the story (ensure head trauma for all dead and undead alike) how would our intrepid crew even discover that? The vast majority of folks dead from natural causes at this point would have been (1) brained by their peers if they are part of a group, (2) found and eaten by walkers if they are not, or (3) squirreled away unfound somewhere. Just a passing thought... again, not where I think all this is going. It was a huge mistake to let Dr. Jenner commit suicide and allow the CDC research to go up in flames. Monumental mistake. There has got to be other U.S. Facilities and people still alive who could carry on research. Something tells me that sooner or later Rick and his crew will venture into Washington D.C. and learn that there is some facility still operational. I also think we'll find out that Rick's daughter is immune. Then they will be on a mission to get The Judith to the CDC! She will grow up knowing she's special and will be a monumental pain-in-the-ass. Some guy in an NSA listening post will guide them via shortwave radio. Time for Timer! I hanker for a hunka cheeze |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 7:17:57 AM EST
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FKeep in mind Jenner mentioned that the zombie virus was not the only bug kept at the CDC .he mentioned that every bad bug known to man was there. And if released could set loose a plague across the country and world that would eliminate mankind. So it had to go boom!
Eastman and a psychopath.: My take on it was the psychopath killed his wife and children and he plotted and eventually kidnapped and killed the psychopath all before the zombie virus started .and only found out about the virus when he eventually went to Alanna months afterwards so in my mind that explains why the psychopath didn't turn. I might be wrong but that's what I got out of it. Judith being a cure. I don't think it's a viable plot. It would be copying Znation that's a switch instead of Z nation copying The Walking DeadAnd they had the good sense to put the kid in permanent daycare. And my thoughts on the Morgan episode was I enjoyed it. Can't have blood and guts in every episode. I think it's served a purpose was well-thought-out just part of the show. Dragon NaturallySpeaking has gone crazy and has a mind of its own so bear with me on the different size fonts it's actually stopped working completely .but they sent me a couple of fixes and we'll see what happens. They were isolated enough to where even if the psychopath died after the outbreak began, he most likely would not have become a zombie. I doubt Eastman contracted the virus until after his first contact with people or a zombie, perhaps when he went into town. Even during the early days, I doubt every single individual in populated areas had it. Even a particularly bad and contagious virus still needs time to spread. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 7:22:31 AM EST
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Eastman and a psychopath.: My take on it was the psychopath killed his wife and children and he plotted and eventually kidnapped and killed the psychopath all before the zombie virus started .and only found out about the virus when he eventually went to Alanna months afterwards so in my mind that explains why the psychopath didn't turn. I might be wrong but that's what I got out of it. So are you saying the reason the guy didn't change was because he wasn't exposed to the strain originally so he wouldn't turn to walker? Wouldn't that mean guys on subs during that time wouldn't change as long as they stayed away from populated areas when everything went down? If they last left a port before the virus began spreading, absolutely. If not, possibly. Same with populations on islands that don't get many visitors or don't have major airports or seaports. Personally, I think the TWD world is a better setting for a show along the lines of 'The Last Ship.' |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 9:18:44 AM EST
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didn't care for that episode. I love character development; the episode that had the governor wandering and finding the family was a great episode, you end up even liking the guy momentarily. This did nothing for morgans character other than taking 90 min to show he met the right type of person to handle ptsd - it would be funny though if eastman was actually the murderer who broke out of the cell killed the real psychologist, than posed as him and trained morgan and sends morgan out thinking he was trained by some peaceful guy. these seasons only have 10 -13 episodes so to have a wasted episode sucks. not the end of the world but based off this episode morgan is going to have ptsd real quick hanging around rick That would have actually made the episode interesting lol. The fight between Morgan and Eastman in the end would have actually had some meaning for Morgan's character if they had gone in that direction. They actually have 16 episodes split into two half seasons of 8 each. Normally each TWD half season has 1 or 2 episodes that they phone in ... remember Daryl and Beth's worthless episode? Beth breaking off her virginity with gay Daryl would have been the only thing that would have saved that one. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 9:31:05 AM EST
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Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. Um, yeah it does have something to do with FTWD. The kid who got his knife confiscated (can't remember the character's name) in FTWD is one of the passengers. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 9:36:14 AM EST
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Um, yeah it does have something to do with FTWD. The kid who got his knife confiscated (can't remember the character's name) in FTWD is one of the passengers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. Um, yeah it does have something to do with FTWD. The kid who got his knife confiscated (can't remember the character's name) in FTWD is one of the passengers. Narp. You are thinking of Tobias the pudgy pock-marked ARFCOM messiah. The putz on the plane is just another mop-haired white teenager. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 9:37:50 AM EST
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Shit I hope no cure is found. I want it to be 100% doom & gloom like "The Road" God...that fucking movie. It's a laugh-a-minute, uplifting, feel-good musical with a surprise happy ending compared to the book, which is downright gloomy. I predict our last view of Alexandria will be a burned-out ruin, with "Clear" scrawled on the wall. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 9:40:06 AM EST
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Not necessarily. Our major characters have been told that and certainly have witnessed much evidence to support it, but we don't know with 100% certainty that there aren't a tiny percentage of folks who are either naturally immune or were somehow never exposed (since we really don't know the origin). IF (and I personally do NOT think this is where the writer's are headed, FTR) there are such "immunes" among the population, given the SOP adopted by the survivors at this point in the story (ensure head trauma for all dead and undead alike) how would our intrepid crew even discover that? The vast majority of folks dead from natural causes at this point would have been (1) brained by their peers if they are part of a group, (2) found and eaten by walkers if they are not, or (3) squirreled away unfound somewhere. Just a passing thought... again, not where I think all this is going. It was a huge mistake to let Dr. Jenner commit suicide and allow the CDC research to go up in flames. Monumental mistake. There has got to be other U.S. Facilities and people still alive who could carry on research. Something tells me that sooner or later Rick and his crew will venture into Washington D.C. and learn that there is some facility still operational. I also think we'll find out that Rick's daughter is immune. Then they will be on a mission to get The Judith to the CDC! She will grow up knowing she's special and will be a monumental pain-in-the-ass. Some guy in an NSA listening post will guide them via shortwave radio. Please, please, please, please, please! |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 9:40:17 AM EST
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. Um, yeah it does have something to do with FTWD. The kid who got his knife confiscated (can't remember the character's name) in FTWD is one of the passengers. Narp. You are thinking of Tobias the pudgy pock-marked ARFCOM messiah. The putz on the plane is just another mop-haired white teenager. But, IIRC, one of the characters on the flight/in the mini-series will be joining FtWD in season 2. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 9:45:18 AM EST
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I could see that happening... remember the shot in I think it was episode 3 or 4 of Fear when the camera focuses on this passenger plane in the sky tipping its wings as is careens on by? It is a little too coincidental in my book. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. They claim a character from flight 462 will be on Fear after its all done. I could see that happening... remember the shot in I think it was episode 3 or 4 of Fear when the camera focuses on this passenger plane in the sky tipping its wings as is careens on by? It is a little too coincidental in my book. I noticed that also, in fact they had quite a bit of air traffic in the background. Which is not surprising for L.A. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:51:07 AM EST
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Narp. You are thinking of Tobias the pudgy pock-marked ARFCOM messiah. The putz on the plane is just another mop-haired white teenager. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it popular understanding that Fear the Walking Dead will operate like American Horror Story? As in new cast/different location? I didn't see anyone familiar in the new promo. Are you talking about the Flight 462 thing? That is a self-contained mini series in one minute jumps. It has nothing to do with Fear other than the name and it taking place during the same timeframe. I think of Flight 462 like I do the original Walking Dead webisodes... it is a "side story" happening concurrently to the main stories to different people. Um, yeah it does have something to do with FTWD. The kid who got his knife confiscated (can't remember the character's name) in FTWD is one of the passengers. Narp. You are thinking of Tobias the pudgy pock-marked ARFCOM messiah. The putz on the plane is just another mop-haired white teenager. Ok, I could've sworn it was the same dude. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:55:15 AM EST
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:32:28 AM EST
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If Judith doesn't turn out to be immune than why bring her character into the show? What purpose does she serve?
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:38:00 AM EST
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If Judith doesn't turn out to be immune than why bring her character into the show? What purpose does she serve? The baby is a millstone at worst and a mcguffin at best. She exists entirely as a source of pathos for Rick and Coral, and as a football for the rest of the cast to protect and shelter. She might as well be a bag of flour with a happy face drawn on it with magic marker. IMO the only reason she continues to exist is that her inevitable death will set up Rick and Coral for a dramatic character shift when it happens. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:06:03 PM EST
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The baby is a millstone at worst and a mcguffin at best. She exists entirely as a source of pathos for Rick and Coral, and as a football for the rest of the cast to protect and shelter. She might as well be a bag of flour with a happy face drawn on it with magic marker. IMO the only reason she continues to exist is that her inevitable death will set up Rick and Coral for a dramatic character shift when it happens. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If Judith doesn't turn out to be immune than why bring her character into the show? What purpose does she serve? The baby is a millstone at worst and a mcguffin at best. She exists entirely as a source of pathos for Rick and Coral, and as a football for the rest of the cast to protect and shelter. She might as well be a bag of flour with a happy face drawn on it with magic marker. IMO the only reason she continues to exist is that her inevitable death will set up Rick and Coral for a dramatic character shift when it happens. They should have wrote her off at the prison. Fine just showing the babyseat empty. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:10:57 PM EST
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:24:54 PM EST
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They should have wrote her off at the prison. Fine just showing the babyseat empty. I was really hoping they would have just done that. I think it is a two prong problem with having a baby on a show like this... you either have to kill it or keep it, and both carry a bunch of issues with them. I've kind of chalked up her survival this far to the whole "you can't kill the dog" trope... the writers either don't want to kill the baby out of some need to not anger the audience or they are saving her death for some really harsh storyline that will get the most mileage. Because lets face it, the baby is not a "character" it is a prop that exists entirely to add dimension to other characters. And if you think of it that way the baby is dead no matter what, it is simply a question of when in my mind. |
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