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Posted: 5/28/2018 12:02:44 AM EDT
I think the world needs to standardize on this. It's super annoying having to deal with so many different types. Which ones can go and which should stay?
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Square or Phillips (preferably both) head screws and Hex. To hell with Torx and flatheads.
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When the others strip out, you can always get a hack saw or Dremel and slot them!
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Torx any day of the week View Quote Quoted:
No love for Robertson? View Quote robertson second phillips slot hex is for bolts, not screws. |
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Flathead is shitty, that can go. Phillips and torx are both good designs for different applications. Lots of wrenchers out there subscribe to the "mo' torque, mo' betta" philosophy, so sometimes you have to limit their torque input with a phillips head. In some situations, a torx head allows for excessive input torque allowing the user to damage the fastener or the parts they are fastening. Sometimes, if you need more torque, a torx head is perfect.
In short, there are reasons this is not standardized. |
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Don't forget JIS.
Personally Torx or Robertson are fine by me. |
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Torx is best. Standardize on it.
It's more resistant to camming out and handles more torque for a given head size than the others. Slot heads need to be banned by federal law! |
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Torx or square/robertson for screws. Phillips should have been gone years ago. Slotted is ok for some applications so you can turn it without having any tools in the field.
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Probably unpopular, but I prefer.
1) Hex 2.) Flat 3.) Torx 4.) Phillips |
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Phillips is the worst, by far.
Too many stupid sizes that make zero sense, and tou end up with stripped screws. Hex is sort of better. Torx or square drive I love. Slot, you can always make it bigger if it starts to strip. |
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I like torx. As long as you use the correct size, I feel it has the least chance of stripping. Something just feels right when you insert the correct torx bit into a torx nut....
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I think the world needs to standardize on this. It's super annoying having to deal with so many different types. Which ones can go and which should stay? View Quote I removed the bumper from my 99 Cherokee...it had Torx, metric bolts, and SAE! |
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Flathead does get points for versatility. Even if you don't have a screwdriver, if you really need something unscrewed, there is something laying around that is up to the task.
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Torx heads are very forgiving of angle, extremely handy to use in tight spaces. It's a superior product.
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If you're Chrysler in the mid-90s through early 2000s...get ALL! I removed the bumper from my 99 Cherokee...it had Torx, metric bolts, and SAE! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the world needs to standardize on this. It's super annoying having to deal with so many different types. Which ones can go and which should stay? I removed the bumper from my 99 Cherokee...it had Torx, metric bolts, and SAE! |
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Torx is best. Standardize on it. It's more resistant to camming out and handles more torque for a given head size than the others. Slot heads need to be banned by federal law! View Quote Some rocket scientist at one of my jobs years ago took a torx tip that was too small, installed it in an electric drill, and wrecked over a dozen screws on an aircraft panel before it dawned on him sum ting wong. At least drilling them off was easy, since a torx head will help guide the bit. |
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Flat/slotted FTW.
“But flat are the worst, sk1, you big box of cocks, you from portland or something? What are you smoking?” Huh interesting you ask... When I use any other type of fastener, I expect them to WORK. When they don’t it pisses me off. I have no such expectation with flats. I expect them to suck going in so I’m never disappointed. I’m 100%right for all the wrong reasons ETA sersiouly though. Torx and f the rest |
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Torx.
Fuck flathead with a spike. Fuck everyone who uses slotted screws on a gun or computer so the shitty screwdriver can slip out and mar something with a spike-covered spike. Fuck Philips also because of every twat who makes a tiny electronics screw out of a shitty soft metal so you strip it just barely turning the goddamn screwdriver. Fuck hex in applications that need torque, some asshole always makes soft screws and then they get rounded. Torx is the only screw that never screws up. There are people who prefer torx, and there are people who are wrong. Period. |
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Flathead is shitty, that can go. Phillips and torx are both good designs for different applications. Lots of wrenchers out there subscribe to the "mo' torque, mo' betta" philosophy, so sometimes you have to limit their torque input with a phillips head. In some situations, a torx head allows for excessive input torque allowing the user to damage the fastener or the parts they are fastening. Sometimes, if you need more torque, a torx head is perfect. In short, there are reasons this is not standardized. View Quote |
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Torx, external torx, and 12 points are my favorites for screws and bolts except in large sizes where a 6 point does fine.
For machine screws, standard drive should be eliminated in all but the rarest of applications. Phillips is so so. |
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Flat head if I have to pick one. It does the best with torque. Otherwise, pick the one best for the application. A properly sized flat head seems to be the most reliable.
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Then let all be standardized as Torx with spiral-lock threads.
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It's slotted, not flathead, btw. But torx is great. Never going to be standardized. It's too late. All the varieties are everywhere, so you are stuck with needing the drivers for all of them.
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It's slotted, not flathead, btw. But torx is great. Never going to be standardized. It's too late. All the varieties are everywhere, so you are stuck with needing the drivers for all of them. View Quote |
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Torx are the best, they rarely strip out. Absolutely despise square it strips out the easiest. Flat is obsolete, Philips is alright.
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Phillips: Fucking useless.
Slot: Has uses. Hex: Has uses. Torx: GLORIOUS FASTENER MASTER RACE! |
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Anyone that thinks Phillips is anything but a monument to human stupidity hasn't spent five minutes examining how it actually works.
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Everyone loves to bash slotted (for good reason), but if you're going to take a fastener and expose it to decades worth of grime, dust, grease, and paint and still want to unscrew it, slotted is easiest to clean out by far.
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Everyone loves to bash slotted (for good reason), but if you're going to take a fastener and expose it to decades worth of grime, dust, grease, and paint and still want to unscrew it, slotted is easiest to clean out by far. View Quote |
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Anyone that thinks Phillips is anything but a monument to human stupidity hasn't spent five minutes examining how it actually works. See US Patent #2,474,994 for details on this wonderful feature of the Phillips drive. Friends don't let friends use drives that cam-out. |
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That’s true, but that’s a pretty poor single positive to combine with all the negatives. They work great if you have a 50 piece precision driver set like a gunsmiths kit, but that’s ridiculous for common use. A t10 torx is a t10 torx. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Everyone loves to bash slotted (for good reason), but if you're going to take a fastener and expose it to decades worth of grime, dust, grease, and paint and still want to unscrew it, slotted is easiest to clean out by far. |
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