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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:54:24 PM EDT
[#1]
Lets get the party started
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:57:08 PM EDT
[#2]
A war is nothing more than the transfer of massive quantities of wealth from one party to another.
Wars have always been fights for resources. Money is the easiest resource to move around. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:57:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Poland isn’t Ukraine. They will fuck the Russians up.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:58:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Russia can sell them more Replacement Migs after this is over.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:58:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Well Poland dropping them off at Ramstein with no backfill. Its up to US and UKRAINE to get them. Poland treading very lightly it seems
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:59:03 PM EDT
[#6]
How many Mig-29s? Enough to matter or just a token gesture?
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:59:44 PM EDT
[#7]
No F35 sweeping the skies clean no care
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Posted: 3/8/2022 3:59:58 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well Poland dropping them off at Ramstein with no backfill. Its up to US and UKRAINE to get them. Poland treading very lightly it seems That was kind of my take. Poland thought of a clever way to get NATO planes while it offloads Soviet Commie Trash Plane Garbage. (That last part is just me being snarky; I don't know if MiG's are quality planes or not.  )
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:01:29 PM EDT
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It seems like the issue was Poland not wanting the rest of NATO,specifically Germany saying “not our problem,Article 5 doesn’t apply” if Poland gets hit due to delivering MiGs. Delivering them from German soil on a US base puts German and a American skin in the game.
Honestly,I have expected Putin to lash out at the nations who supported Ukraine,as he said he would. I most certainly do not want Russian missiles hitting my beautiful little city but the bastards have bombed it more than once in history and we absolutely had to stand with Ukraine against brutality. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:01:30 PM EDT
[#10]
So technically, they are not giving them to Ukraine, they are giving them to us to give to Ukraine, right?
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:03:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So technically, they are not giving them to Ukraine, they are giving them to us to give to Ukraine, right? Pretty much. Poland is saying, "Hey, we've got these here Soviet fighters if'n youse guys want 'em. But we want NATO planes in return, M'kay?" |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:03:14 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That was kind of my take. Poland thought of a clever way to get NATO planes while it offloads Soviet Commie Trash Plane Garbage. (That last part is just me being snarky; I don't know if MiG's are quality planes or not. )It doesn't really matter how "good" the MiG-29s are or aren't... the Ukrainian pilots and maintainers are already trained on them, so they're the only aircraft that could do them much good right now. This is a good move for everyone (except the Russians... and fuck those guys anyway). |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:04:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So technically, they are not giving them to Ukraine, they are giving them to us to give to Ukraine, right? Seems so. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:16:02 PM EDT
[#14]
Any Phantoms still laying around, ready to fly?
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:22:16 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any Phantoms still laying around, ready to fly? |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:23:21 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many Mig-29s? Enough to matter or just a token gesture? How many MiG-29 poland has? Poland has 21 single-seat MiG-29s and 6 twin-seat MiG-29s, according to Janes World Air Forces.18 hours ago |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:24:09 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lets get the party started You first |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:27:28 PM EDT
[#18]
Do they have pilots?
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:28:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Good. Russia needs to go home.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:30:16 PM EDT
[#20]
Does Ukraine have a relatively safe airbase still open to refuel and rearm these?
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any Phantoms still laying around, ready to fly? Ask Japan, their last and greatest version just retired a couple of years ago. Bet it wouldn't take much to get em ready to fly again. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:30:30 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they have pilots? I doubt they had very many more pilots than they had fighters at the start of the war. Bet a good percent of them are KIA/MIA now. Wonder if NATO volunteers will fly under Ukraine flag incognito. Russia did it to us in Vietnam and Korea. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:30:32 PM EDT
[#23]
Paint them all with Russian markings on all of them. Install transponders so they know who is who. Have fun.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:31:16 PM EDT
[#24]
Sky over Ukraine soon will get "interesting".
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:33:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia can sell them more Replacement Migs after this is over. Can they though? Or will Poland continue to buy more F35s? |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:34:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Can't blame the Poles for being careful on this one.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:34:07 PM EDT
[#27]
I’ll believe it when they’re actually operating in Ukrainian airspace.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:35:27 PM EDT
[#28]
Hells yeah...
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:36:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt they had very many more pilots than they had fighters at the start of the war. Bet a good percent of them are KIA/MIA now. Wonder if NATO volunteers will fly under Ukraine flag incognito. Russia did it to use in Vietnam and Korea. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do they have pilots? I doubt they had very many more pilots than they had fighters at the start of the war. Bet a good percent of them are KIA/MIA now. Wonder if NATO volunteers will fly under Ukraine flag incognito. Russia did it to use in Vietnam and Korea. Flying Tigers? 
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:37:02 PM EDT
[#30]
I bet the US chickens out.
Not sure how long random whoever dudes are going to last against whatever air force and anti plane missiles Russia has. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:37:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A war is nothing more than the transfer of massive quantities of wealth from one party to another. Wars have always been fights for resources. Money is the easiest resource to move around. It's a cartel war and we are the luciferian globalists led by Gates,Soros,Fauci,Obama,Clinton,Biden,Bush,Romney, Bezos,Zuckerberg,Klaus Schwab, determined to destroy America and build back better...aka a globalist vassal state. Putin is the other side of the same coin...build back better after you destroy what is... The only way to win is not to play. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:38:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet the US chickens out Group buy on MiG's?? |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:38:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll believe it when they’re actually operating in Ukrainian airspace. I get your cynicism, but hell, even if they never do get up and operational, a whole bunch of Russian pilots just read the headline and went, "FUUUUUUUUUUCKKK!"
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:38:39 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many Mig-29s? Enough to matter or just a token gesture? ~29 jets |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:39:51 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet the US chickens out I hope you are right. I do not want the USA to have anymore role in this war than what we are currently doing. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:39:55 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't blame the Poles for being careful on this one. Smart for them to let Biden be in the Russians crosshairs... He supposed to be traveling to Saudi and Venezuela to beg for oil from those who've already said NO! |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:40:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet the US chickens out. Not sure how long random whoever dudes are going to last against whatever air force and anti plane missiles or whatever Russia has. Poland could own the skies now with their F35s |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:40:16 PM EDT
[#38]
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:40:39 PM EDT
[#39]
Looks like winter 2022/2023 will be a nuclear winter.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:40:49 PM EDT
[#40]
What kind of bull shit is that? Poland trying to say we didn’t give Ukraine planes it was some one else? Either way they still get F16s.
This is what it is….Putin isn’t going to give a shit he’ll see it as the Poles escalated things and so did everyone else involved. It could actually make him deploy more destructive weapons. Is what really matters is does he think Russia, and himself, would survive a nuclear exchange with the US? |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:40:59 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You first Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lets get the party started You first Exactly. How many does the Russian Air Force shoot down and Putin escalate? We should've been arming UKR 8 years ago. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:41:36 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a cartel war and we are the luciferian globalists led by Gates,Soros,Fauci,Obama,Clinton,Biden,Bush,Romney, Bezos,Zuckerberg,Klaus Schwab, determined to destroy America and build back better...aka a globalist vassal state. Putin is the other side of the same coin...build back better after you destroy what is... The only way to win is not to play. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A war is nothing more than the transfer of massive quantities of wealth from one party to another. Wars have always been fights for resources. Money is the easiest resource to move around. It's a cartel war and we are the luciferian globalists led by Gates,Soros,Fauci,Obama,Clinton,Biden,Bush,Romney, Bezos,Zuckerberg,Klaus Schwab, determined to destroy America and build back better...aka a globalist vassal state. Putin is the other side of the same coin...build back better after you destroy what is... The only way to win is not to play. With all due respect, get some help. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:42:34 PM EDT
[#43]
And of course we’re paying for the Pole’s F16s?
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:42:55 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No F35 sweeping the skies clean no care They are in the friendly skies already. If called on it would be easy. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:43:00 PM EDT
[#45]
Let's NOT get this started.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:43:38 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope you are right. I do not want the USA to have anymore role in this war than what we are currently doing. |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:44:14 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any Phantoms still laying around, ready to fly? Load Fortunate Son on the internal 8 track and let er rip! |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:44:41 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well Poland dropping them off at Ramstein with no backfill. Its up to US and UKRAINE to get them. Poland treading very lightly it seems Poland is getting F-16's to backfill the 29's |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:44:52 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's NOT get this started. I think that ship has sailed. Warring powers will always claim the other one started it first. What's more important is who gets to finish it. Pass the Iodine pills, please.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/8/2022 4:45:12 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And of course we’re paying for the Pole’s F16s? I wouldn't be surprised.
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