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Bumpstocks should have always been NFA. Stupid item that I would never own anyway.
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Quoted: Not really. The leadership is disintegrating, and WLP should step down and retire, but the 5 million members like myself - we're still here. Because the NRA leadership turned out to be two faced embezzling bastiges doesn't mean I or any other NRA member will suddenyl vote Demonrat. However, I see many NRA members also joining Second Amendment Foundation and Gun Owners of America. View Quote |
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Quoted: Someone called...? My comment in this thread is... Watch what a politician *does* not what a politician says. Watch what laws, budgets, and formal orders are made by a President. Pay little attention to public statements and statements made to cheering crowds. They mean very little in the end. Watch very carefully what they actually *do.* I think with certain, bombastic, over-the-top politicians, what they *say* is so exciting and bombastic, some folks ignore (or even justify) the politicians formal actions that violate their bombastic original statements and false promises. Conservatives are educated. Conservatives study, read, and analyze the actions of politicians... We pay attention to their, "Conservative Review," grades. We are educated. Watch what a politician actually does... Not what a politician says. If you are a conservative, you watch what a politician does. You criticize, and condemn those who do not keep their campaign promises. View Quote |
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You know, I have alot of really smart friends. Smart successful business leaders. Very successful. Very smart. Some are even as smart as me. Some of the most successful people in the whole world. And, all of them, they say to me, you know, Trump is doing a wonderful job. He won the election in 2016. Bunch of people didn't think he would win, but he did. So, he is the winner of the election. Now, he is the President. He is the President of the United States. Our nation. Don't believe the fake news that says he is not the President. He is the President. Plus, just look at his wife. What a beautiful women. She was a model. Think of Trump's Obamacare replacement plan as a woman. Sure, you have not seen it yet, and it has not even been drafted. But, if it had been drafted, it would be beautiful. Trust me. Like his wife. Only the best. And, everybody says, she is beautiful. Just stunning. Many people also say, and I have heard this quite often, all the time, she is the most beautiful woman that ever lived. I was in the airport in Denver just the other day, a wonderful place, great airport. We love the Denver airport, don't we? I fly in there all the time. Colorado has some problems, we all know that, but they have a great airport. All our airports should be like that. I'm in construction, so I know beautiful airports. Everyone should go see the Denver airport. I love the Denver airport. This man came up to me and said the First Lady is the most beautiful woman that has ever lived. Then, we talked about how the media refuses to report on this fact. Dishonest media. If they refuse to report that the First lady is the most beautiful woman that ever lived, what else are they hiding? Bet they don't even report about the beautiful Denver airport. Its wonderful. They have this place there called Root Down. Its a funky bistro in the airport. Good people. In the beautiful Denver airport. Its wonderful. Many people don't know this but bistro comes from the Greek word bison. And, bison, some call them buffalo, the Greeks call them bison, used to roam the great plains. A huge stretch of land in the midwest. I love the midwest. I've seen it myself. It is huge. The great plains. Great people out there. We love the midwest, don't we? I do. Oh, crooked, crooked Hillary. She probably doesn't even go to Denver. I know alot of people in Denver. Trust me, I do. Alot of people. Very smart, very successful people. And, I asked them, hey, have you ever seen Hillary? I call her crooked, crooked Hillary. She lost the election. And, they all say, everyone says, they have never seen Hillary in the Denver airport. I asked the people at Root Down, good people at Root Down, working hard to run a funky bistro, good Americans, there at the beautiful Denver airport, and they have never seen her. What kinda person doesn't like a funky bistro? But, the media, the dishonest media, remains silent. Can't trust them. No sir. Can't trust them. Crooked, crooked Hillary. She hates the Denver airport and the Great Plains. Great Plains, Great Plains, I tell you, from sea to shining sea. Crooked, crooked Hillary. View Quote |
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The problem with such statements is that you really can't prove them, nor are they indicative of anything else other than how you project the public to be. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Trump doesn't really understand guns or the gun community. And like the blacks,most are proud of it......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWM BUT,that whole support the team shit keeps most tied to it (like the blacks with the dems). Someday the two choices will be between slightly lesser evils......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/l7l9QmtiXHU 25 yr old cartoon sums up the stupidity of the people.............. I am not projecting anything-simply observing and reporting what I see.I don't remember the Constitution setting up a huge redistributionist nanny state government so many want. |
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Trump doesn't really understand guns or the gun community. And like the blacks,most are proud of it......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWM BUT,that whole support the team shit keeps most tied to it (like the blacks with the dems). Someday the two choices will be between slightly lesser evils......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/l7l9QmtiXHU 25 yr old cartoon sums up the stupidity of the people.............. |
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Trump doesn't really understand guns or the gun community. And like the blacks,most are proud of it......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWM BUT,that whole support the team shit keeps most tied to it (like the blacks with the dems). Someday the two choices will be between slightly lesser evils......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/l7l9QmtiXHU 25 yr old cartoon sums up the stupidity of the people.............. |
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No offense,but I've been hearing that shit for 30+ years...And all we've gotten is gun control I'll go back to a write in or 3rd Party. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. he just chose to run in the R primary because it was an easier path in 2016 Gun control,bigger government,and more spending is more in line with the Republican Party........ |
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You know, I have alot of really smart friends. Smart successful business leaders. Very successful. Very smart. Some are even as smart as me. Some of the most successful people in the whole world. And, all of them, they say to me, you know, Trump is doing a wonderful job. He won the election in 2016. Bunch of people didn't think he would win, but he did. So, he is the winner of the election. Now, he is the President. He is the President of the United States. Our nation. Don't believe the fake news that says he is not the President. He is the President. Plus, just look at his wife. What a beautiful women. She was a model. Think of Trump's Obamacare replacement plan as a woman. Sure, you have not seen it yet, and it has not even been drafted. But, if it had been drafted, it would be beautiful. Trust me. Like his wife. Only the best. And, everybody says, she is beautiful. Just stunning. Many people also say, and I have heard this quite often, all the time, she is the most beautiful woman that ever lived. I was in the airport in Denver just the other day, a wonderful place, great airport. We love the Denver airport, don't we? I fly in there all the time. Colorado has some problems, we all know that, but they have a great airport. All our airports should be like that. I'm in construction, so I know beautiful airports. Everyone should go see the Denver airport. I love the Denver airport. This man came up to me and said the First Lady is the most beautiful woman that has ever lived. Then, we talked about how the media refuses to report on this fact. Dishonest media. If they refuse to report that the First lady is the most beautiful woman that ever lived, what else are they hiding? Bet they don't even report about the beautiful Denver airport. Its wonderful. They have this place there called Root Down. Its a funky bistro in the airport. Good people. In the beautiful Denver airport. Its wonderful. Many people don't know this but bistro comes from the Greek word bison. And, bison, some call them buffalo, the Greeks call them bison, used to roam the great plains. A huge stretch of land in the midwest. I love the midwest. I've seen it myself. It is huge. The great plains. Great people out there. We love the midwest, don't we? I do. Oh, crooked, crooked Hillary. She probably doesn't even go to Denver. I know alot of people in Denver. Trust me, I do. Alot of people. Very smart, very successful people. And, I asked them, hey, have you ever seen Hillary? I call her crooked, crooked Hillary. She lost the election. And, they all say, everyone says, they have never seen Hillary in the Denver airport. I asked the people at Root Down, good people at Root Down, working hard to run a funky bistro, good Americans, there at the beautiful Denver airport, and they have never seen her. What kinda person doesn't like a funky bistro? But, the media, the dishonest media, remains silent. Can't trust them. No sir. Can't trust them. Crooked, crooked Hillary. She hates the Denver airport and the Great Plains. Great Plains, Great Plains, I tell you, from sea to shining sea. Crooked, crooked Hillary. View Quote |
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Quoted: Damn,you prove your own point............. Trump knows the vast majority of gun owners will; support him no matter what,so he can play some lip service. This is why we are where we are,and where we are headed. What do you get when you reward bad behavior instead of holding them accountable??? There really is no solution.The vast majority don't believe in smaller government or less spending,so we will end up getting the government we deserve. |
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Elections are coming. That is all. And I love Trump, but his lack of followthrough on 2A and bumpstocks position is disappointing. View Quote |
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If it's so bad how come all you never_trumpers haven't organized and popped p-mags or put forth a better candidate? All I have heard and seen for 3.5 years is a lot of whining because voters refused the candidate you wanted which brought about the never happy with Trump bitch fest...What happens if Trump gets elected in 2020, another 4 years of bitch fest because voters still refuse to vote for your guy? What about 2024? 2028? Is the bitch fest ever going to end or are you guys eventually going to realize that there is no perfect candidate that everyone will vote for? Honestly, what has 3.5 years of bitching actually accomplished? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Not prove them??Look around.Look at the people the voters have elected,and look at the shit they are trying to elect to the top slot. The proof is where we are in this country................... But I'm not a Battered Wife that will just take it and make up defenses/justifications for it. "Perfect Candidate"? How about a mediocre Republican Candidate/President that doesn't pass gun control (and not give us anything pro gun),increase the size and spending of the gov.?? Is that really too much to ask from the Party that used to run on that??? |
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I won't be surprised if he pushes a new AWB if he's re-elected. View Quote But don't worry-even if we get more infringements,plenty here will remind us how oh so lucky we are that sanders/biden.warren/etc isn't President,because it would be a lot worse...................... |
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Fixed it for you. I support Trump but he is painfully ignorant of the 2nd amendment and gun culture. Hopefully he'll take some clues from those in his administration who are better informed. I have seen zero progun democraps in my life. Clearly there are those here who are "democrats first" and Americans second. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: Damn,you prove your own point............. Trump knows the vast majority of gun owners will; support him no matter what,so he can play some lip service. This is why we are where we are,and where we are headed. What do you get when you reward bad behavior instead of holding them accountable??? If that is too hard for you, Don’t promise to vote for gun grabbers.(democraps) I support Trump but he is painfully ignorant of the 2nd amendment and gun culture. Hopefully he'll take some clues from those in his administration who are better informed. I have seen zero progun democraps in my life. Clearly there are those here who are "democrats first" and Americans second. You support gun grabbing republicans. I do not. |
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Quoted: The solution isn't a cult like following of Team R no matter what they do,that's for sure. There really is no solution.The vast majority don't believe in smaller government or less spending,so we will end up getting the government we deserve. View Quote |
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Sure it's disappointing but what do you think would have happened had Hillary been elected? No one is perfect but Trump has done a hell of a job compared to what Hillary would have done. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Elections are coming. That is all. And I love Trump, but his lack of followthrough on 2A and bumpstocks position is disappointing. Hillary would have at least had republicans putting up a fight against gun grabbers instead of being the bastards writing the legislation. |
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One more fucking anti gun initiative by Trump and I am done with him. View Quote You guys should hang out together. You can compare notes. RDak... Man Of Eventual Action!!! |
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Quoted: My Mother-In-Law has a bad case of the "just about ready to's" as well. Whenever someone does something she doesn't like, she's "just about ready to" do or say something. You guys should hang out together. You can compare notes. RDak... Man Of Eventual Action!!! View Quote *click* |
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. While Trump himself will deny it, and he's made statements contradicting it, I got the impression that Tump is uninterested in firearms and basically followed NRA leadership's very public stances in his positions on gun issues in cases that have angered many here. If we want Trump's gun position modified we're going to have to get him to listen to another pro-gun org or change the NRA's leadership to more reflect a no compromise pro-gun rights stance. Trump himself said that NRA is a paper tiger... and he's right. When nobody gives attention to NRA because it compromises on 2nd Amendment is becomes politically irrelevant. YMMV . View Quote |
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As I've posted before many times, Trump is the best pro-RKBA President in many decades. With Pelosi running the House, and so-called "conservatives" electing Democrat Senators in states like Alabama, West Virginia, Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, and Montana last year, we won't see any pro-RKBA legislation until 2024 at the earliest. Unless you want to cut a deal with the dems.... Therefore the only way to impact change at the national level is with judicial rulings. Trump is doing a great job at this. 2 outstanding USSC judges. A record number of circuit court judges. 99 district court judges. And many more on the way. View Quote Yeah,judges will save us.For sure.............. |
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The ability to say, "Awww man... that SUCKS! But at least it was one of our own. Would've been worse if it was one of them". Personally, I think it sucks even worse, when the person who supposedly has your back, instead deliberately stabs you in the back. I'd rather face the guy whom I know wants to stab me in the face, because I'm ready to fight them tooth and nail. Other folks have already voiced it though; if you value the 2A, vote for the candidates who've proven that they're pro-2A, not the ones who are anti-2A, or the ones who claim to be pro-2A, but have shown that they're willing to pass anti-2A. Don't spout that BS about, "Yeah, but that candidate can't beat the Dems", because THAT'S how you keep supporting further erosion of the 2A. By continually showing ALL the candidates that they CAN pass anti-2A stuff without consequences. If, and only if, they realize, "Hey, there's a significant block of voters who won't support you if you pass ANYTHING anti-2A", will they understand not to keep passing anti-2A stuff. But as it stands now, they know it doesn't matter, because folks let them slide when they pass anti-2A stuff, with the, "Who else we gonna vote for?" sheeple mentality. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Candidate Trump made a lot of pro 2A comments. President Trump is a gun banner at heart, but he was and will continue to be the lesser of evils. It's that whole #gottasupporttheteam mindset-Make excuses/justifications/defenses/counter accusations when our side passes gun control (or increase spending,expands the size of gov.,etc..) and bitch about the left doing it. What is this long term plan of lesser evil each time going to give us? Personally, I think it sucks even worse, when the person who supposedly has your back, instead deliberately stabs you in the back. I'd rather face the guy whom I know wants to stab me in the face, because I'm ready to fight them tooth and nail. Other folks have already voiced it though; if you value the 2A, vote for the candidates who've proven that they're pro-2A, not the ones who are anti-2A, or the ones who claim to be pro-2A, but have shown that they're willing to pass anti-2A. Don't spout that BS about, "Yeah, but that candidate can't beat the Dems", because THAT'S how you keep supporting further erosion of the 2A. By continually showing ALL the candidates that they CAN pass anti-2A stuff without consequences. If, and only if, they realize, "Hey, there's a significant block of voters who won't support you if you pass ANYTHING anti-2A", will they understand not to keep passing anti-2A stuff. But as it stands now, they know it doesn't matter, because folks let them slide when they pass anti-2A stuff, with the, "Who else we gonna vote for?" sheeple mentality. Any Republican that voted for gun control of any kind,should have been thrown out,and never been elected to anything again. Instead,they get rewarded.Remind me again what you get when you reward bad behavior?? |
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Fixed it for you. I support Trump but he is painfully ignorant of the 2nd amendment and gun culture. Hopefully he'll take some clues from those in his administration who are better informed. I have seen zero progun democraps in my life. Clearly there are those here who are "democrats first" and Americans second. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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One more fucking anti gun initiative by Trump and I am done with him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Someone called...? My comment in this thread is... Watch what a politician *does* not what a politician says. Watch what laws, budgets, and formal orders are made by a President. Pay little attention to public statements and statements made to cheering crowds. They mean very little in the end. Watch very carefully what they actually *do.* I think with certain, bombastic, over-the-top politicians, what they *say* is so exciting and bombastic, some folks ignore (or even justify) the politicians formal actions that violate their bombastic original statements and false promises. Conservatives are educated. Conservatives study, read, and analyze the actions of politicians... We pay attention to their, "Conservative Review," grades. We are educated. Watch what a politician actually does... Not what a politician says. If you are a conservative, you watch what a politician does. You criticize, and condemn those who do not keep their campaign promises. I'm sure it will work out great in the long run though...........after he's reelected,THEN we'll see all the pro gun stuff happening and spending get cut drastically.This time for sure. |
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My Mother-In-Law has a bad case of the "just about ready to's" as well. Whenever someone does something she doesn't like, she's "just about ready to" do or say something. You guys should hang out together. You can compare notes. RDak... Man Of Eventual Action!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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One more fucking anti gun initiative by Trump and I am done with him. You guys should hang out together. You can compare notes. RDak... Man Of Eventual Action!!! |
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One more fucking anti gun initiative by Trump and I am done with him. You guys should hang out together. You can compare notes. RDak... Man Of Eventual Action!!! |
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Nothing changes from election to election. We are way past the point of no return now. Frankly we are one major economic crisis away from totalitarianism. The average American will abandon all of the founding principles when it happens. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: The solution isn't a cult like following of Team R no matter what they do,that's for sure. There really is no solution.The vast majority don't believe in smaller government or less spending,so we will end up getting the government we deserve. Human nature,and it wont be pretty. |
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President is a fair weather 2A friend. NRA is crumbling. BSA is failing. ARF is Changing.
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Sure it's disappointing but what do you think would have happened had Hillary been elected? No one is perfect but Trump has done a hell of a job compared to what Hillary would have done. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Elections are coming. That is all. And I love Trump, but his lack of followthrough on 2A and bumpstocks position is disappointing. It's OK when our guy beats us,because it's a much better beating than the other guy gives......... Every damn time a Republican gives us gun control,we are supposed to thank our lucky stars it was not the democrats giving us gun control.And then we show the Republicans how much we believe in the 2nd by reelecting them or voting them into higher office. If that doesn't send a clear message,I don't know what would.................... |
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One more fucking anti gun initiative by Trump and I am done with him. You guys should hang out together. You can compare notes. RDak... Man Of Eventual Action!!! If it wasn’t do you have any specifics on where the line is this time? |
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One more fucking anti gun initiative by Trump and I am done with him. You guys should hang out together. You can compare notes. RDak... Man Of Eventual Action!!! |
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It’s a sound bite. He don’t give a fuck about your rights outside the right to vote and he wants you to vote for him.
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He banned bumpstocks by EO which might have opened up a Pandora's box, he is for red flag laws that can and will abuse due process...…...one more anti gun initiative and I just plain will have had enough. I cannot keep ignoring this stuff because I know a democrat will be worse...…..it will be my personal limit. Yours and other's limits might be different.....which is fine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He banned bumpstocks by EO which might have opened up a Pandora's box, he is for red flag laws that can and will abuse due process...…...one more anti gun initiative and I just plain will have had enough. I cannot keep ignoring this stuff because I know a democrat will be worse...…..it will be my personal limit. Yours and other's limits might be different.....which is fine. View Quote Remind me again, how many firearm regulations went into effect during Obama's eight years? How many during Trumps first term? |
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