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Posted: 6/20/2023 8:13:24 PM EDT
BOOM! Ron DeSantis Privately Tells Corporate Donors He Is Against U.S Tariffs on Chinese Goods June 20, 2023 | Sundance | 131 Comments This is the big one. The Economic Policy is the distinct and singular policy at the core of Make America Great Again. The MAGA coalition is centered around the principles of America First economics, and Ron DeSantis has just admitted he does not support them. CTH has long warned about Ron DeSantis’ economic policy being driven by the donors who fund him. When he was in congress, DeSantis voted in support of Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) for President Obama, and DeSantis voted in support of the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement (TPP). These are the trade policies supported by the Club for Growth who was congressman DeSantis’ biggest funder. The Club for Growth also held the pre-announcement donor fundraiser in February of this year in support of DeSantis ’24. The Wall Street billionaire, hedge fund, multinational corporate alliance, that assembles at Sea Island and funds Ron DeSantis, are fully against America First trade and economic policies. DeSantis has just made an admission of his alignment with that corporate “globalist” outlook to a private confab of donors in California. The DeSantis campaign is in full panic and retreat mode now that his establishment position is exposed. The statements during the secret meeting were leaked. [CALIFORNIA] […] The Republican snuck in and out of the Coalinga landmark undetected by the public nor the media, by design. He flew in and out of the nearby Coalinga airport, ushered to the back loading docks by unmarked Fresno County Sheriff’s vehicles. The Central Valley lunch stop for 60 donors — paying $3,300 — was in between a breakfast event in Sacramento, and an evening in southern California. The only indication that something special was going on was a “private event” sign. Most of the questions for the security guard related to the location of the restrooms. […] John Harris, the rancher and entrepreneur, hosted the DeSantis event at his eponymous resort, along with Fresno developer Richard F. Spencer. Harris was unable to attend, but Spencer did grant a rare media interview with GV Wire. […] The Florida governor also talked about global supply chain problems and China, and “how to make life better for the people here in the United States,” Maher said. Others reported that DeSantis said Trump’s tariffs were “not effective.” (read more) More about the donor event is HERE – “Around 50 people joined DeSantis for lunch at Harris Ranch in Coalinga, which was hosted by Harris Farms Chairman John Harris and Richard Spencer, the owner of Fresno-based Harris Construction.” (link) In addition, while in California, DeSantis also went to another Big Club fundraiser. “Governor of Florida Ron DeSantis’s Silicon Valley Peninsula fundraiser was hosted by John Hamilton, a real estate investor who has donated tens of thousands to RINOs and former presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney and John McCain.” (more) Ron DeSantis aligning against the core values of America First economics is a HUGE warning flare. We have discussed this issue on these pages and in every platform we can reach for a long time. The DeSantis team is trying desperately to recover from sunlight upon their donor influence, but they cannot refute the words of their candidate in support of those donor priorities. View Quote Keep in mind also that Donald Trump recently announced the sweeping “Economic Agenda 47“, which includes baseline tariffs against all imported goods. ?UNIVERSAL BASELINE TARIFFS: President Trump has announced a plan to replace the Biden system of punishing domestic producers and rewarding outsourcers with a new system that rewards domestic production while taxing foreign companies. Rather than raising taxes on American producers, President Trump will impose tariffs on FOREIGN producers through a system of universal baseline tariffs on most imported goods. Higher tariffs will increase incrementally if other countries manipulate their currency or otherwise engage in unfair trading practices. (link) Candidate Ron DeSantis now stands in opposition to this approach, and the current tariffs against imported Chinese goods which have been exceptionally effective. So effective, even the Biden administration has admitted their value. As long as Donald J. Trump singularly represents the only counterforce against this UniParty globalist construct, he will continue to be targeted by the system of financial controllers who fund the political system. For the sake of brevity, this alignment of multinational corporate and financial economic interests is called the “Big Club.” As part of the strategic political effort, the Republican wing of the Big Club needs to carve up the supporters of Donald Trump into smaller, easier to target, pieces. This is where the value of the culture war, what is now considered as ‘wokeism’, plays into the strategy of those who seek to control political outcomes and remove the threat that Trump represents to their financial interests. In many ways, this is why we are seeing prominent Republican officeholders pushing the culture war as a tool for their own political advancement. The same Big Club members who are directly fighting against the America-First economic agenda, are the same Big Club members who are funding the Republican politicians to push the culture war. The corporations, billionaires and multinationals who are funding the Republican candidates do not have any vested interest in the culture war. For them the social issues are a tool, technique or insurance policy to guarantee security of the interest that does matter – their financial status. There are trillions at stake, literally trillions. Additionally, decades of their prior investment interests are contingent upon the ‘service driven economy’ being maintained. Dollars drive the U.S. global trade and financial exchanges. The multinationals, both corporations and banks, have pre-deployed investments all around the globe. However, many of those investments are entirely contingent upon the retention of the U.S. economic system they pre-established before the investment was made. President Donald J. Trump represents the threat to that entire financial system. Once you understand this, then a great deal of the more nuanced and granular U.S. political moves, almost all of which are funded by the corporations and billionaires who are attached to the global investment process, begin to make sense. Every non-Trump candidate, funded to create the opposition to America First, is part of this process to use anti-wokeism as a strategy. With this level of money at stake, do not be surprised when you look at how much is being spent to construct the system that guarantees the continuation of globalism. The money spent in funding the Republican candidates to advance the distracting cultural war pales in comparison to the amount of money at risk in the 2024 election outcome. View Quote https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/20/boom-ron-desantis-privately-tells-corporate-donors-he-is-against-u-s-tariffs-on-chinese-goods/ |
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Wow. That's the first major positive thing I've heard about him.
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It is in the best interest of this country to move away from China as a source of things. It is a strategic vulnerability.
I don't much care how we do it, but it needs to be done. |
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I’m against Tariffs as well
Most of the manufacturing will eventually end up in MX anyways. |
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Ah, a Conservative Treehouse article. At least we know what some of his supporters want now.
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Tariffs suck. China is pricing themselves out of the labor market for which they're suited on their own accord, with no help needed from us.
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We need to go full trade war on China. We need to force the supply chains out of China.
DeSantis just lost 2028. |
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Why are tariffs the one tax idiots on our side are happy to pay? Chinese goods or chinese steel in American goods ends up costing more and that money goes right into the treasury to be wasted. How does that solve anything? Morons.....
The taxes come out of our pockets and no one else's. |
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DeSantis is pure swamp. Wholly owned by the DC establishment. Anyone who thinks DeSantis is going to govern as a conservative is wrong. Every time some new policy question comes out, DeSantis is on the wrong side. He supports Russia and China, but not the US.
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Quoted: We need to go full trade war on China. We need to force the supply chains out of China. DeSantis just lost 2028. View Quote The the republic of the US was lost in 2020 when half the nation stood there and excepted Biden as the next president DeSantis , trump , or what ever republican that runs will never ever win . This nation needs a complete reset . |
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Quoted: DeSantis is pure swamp. Wholly owned by the DC establishment. Anyone who thinks DeSantis is going to govern as a conservative is wrong. Every time some new policy question comes out, DeSantis is on the wrong side. He supports Russia and China, but not the US. View Quote Ok, please explain for the class what happens when we impose import tariffs on the Chinese. |
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Quoted: It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. View Quote Yeah and if we just impose taxes on corporations they'll pay it out of their profits instead of raising prices. |
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I support tariffs on all foreign made goods.
That is how the government is supposed to be funded. Its how we got a huge manufacturing middle class, and the average family had a stay at home mom. Now we have the rust belt. Fuck free trade. Fuck Walmart. |
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Quoted: Tariffs are just taxes. View Quote Bullshit, tariffs are tariffs. Prior to income taxes most of the government was funded with tariffs. They’re a perfect tool to force stop funding of our enemy and decouple industries that think they can abuse our investment and consumer base and get graft and payola from China while sucking out our money and technology |
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Quoted: I support tariffs on all foreign made goods. That is how the government is supposed to be funded. Its how we got a huge manufacturing middle class, and the average family had a stay at home mom. Now we have the rust belt. Fuck free trade. Fuck Walmart. View Quote |
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Quoted: DeSantis is pure swamp. Wholly owned by the DC establishment. Anyone who thinks DeSantis is going to govern as a conservative is wrong. Every time some new policy question comes out, DeSantis is on the wrong side. He supports Russia and China, but not the US. View Quote Perhaps, but he’s a hell of a good governor. |
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1000% tariff on everything chinese and spend all the money building artificial islands in the pacific for, uh, fishing.
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Quoted: Bullshit, tariffs are tariffs. Prior to income taxes most of the government was funded with tariffs. They’re a perfect tool to force stop funding of our enemy and decouple industries that think they can abuse our investment and consumer base and get graft and payola from China while sucking out our money and technology View Quote Tariffs are literally taxes, its in the definition. If the government wants to go back to no income tax and fund themselves primarily on tarrifs, lets talk. |
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If you dont make china stuff more expensive how do you wean us companies from producing in china, and make china weaker?
But the downside is more union made shit.. Fuck, we’re fucked. |
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DeSantis employs a similar approach to handling China issues as he does with domestic politics – reducing complex issues to battles in the culture war. He often reduces China and Chinese citizens to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and advocates for bills in the name of counteracting the malign influence of the CCP. Not only has he banned TikTok from schools and government servers in Florida, but he restricted Chinese citizens from purchases of Florida’s agricultural land, land near military bases, and critical infrastructure, citing security reasons. View Quote DeSantis is not giving China a free ride he's taking a different approach than Trump |
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Quoted: 1000% tariff on everything chinese and spend all the money building artificial islands in the pacific for, uh, fishing. View Quote Import tariffs on Chinese goods would not be paid by the Chinese. And I don't mean effectively, I mean literally. Import tariffs are levied against the importer. |
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Quoted: Yeah and if we just impose taxes on corporations they'll pay it out of their profits instead of raising prices. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. Yeah and if we just impose taxes on corporations they'll pay it out of their profits instead of raising prices. They will only raise prices until the customer decides it is too expensive. |
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Tarrif's are a necessary step in bringing back industry to the USA, but it's only one part. A concentrated program needs to be implemented so we can start producing goods here rather than buying them from china,
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Quoted: It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They just pass the cost to is so wtf good does it do lol It changes consumer behavior and brings manufacturing back to the US. Which means more jobs and more domestic wealth creation with less of our local wealth being transferred overseas. That is patently ridiculous. The tariffs do nothing to make the cost of US goods cheap enough to compete with Chinese goods. They just make the consumer spend a bit more on Chinese stuff which simply takes that money out of the economy so there is less money available to buy America goods. |
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First thing to defeat china is kill the epa and entitlement programs. Those 2 things are why china is going to wipe us off the planet as a country.
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What did he actually say?
The article the OP link says: The Florida governor also talked about global supply chain problems and China, and “how to make life better for the people here in the United States,” Maher said. Others reported that DeSantis said Trump’s tariffs were “not effective.” View Quote This smells like cheap smear click bait. |
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Quoted: Not supporting tariffs is good now? Wtf... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/114465/FxKaVSnWIAILXVE_jpeg-2858573.JPG View Quote Finally we agree and also he restricted the sale of agricultural land to the Chinese |
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NAFTA took jobs from the USA to Mexico, then Mexico to India, China etc.
There is no free trade bringing in goods made on slave wages. |
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Quoted: Bullshit, tariffs are tariffs. Prior to income taxes most of the government was funded with tariffs. They’re a perfect tool to force stop funding of our enemy and decouple industries that think they can abuse our investment and consumer base and get graft and payola from China while sucking out our money and technology View Quote Paying tariffs to our government will force us off cheap goods? Really? If the tariff does not bring up the cost of chinese goods to the same cost as American goods then the Chinese goods will still sell for less and you have less money to buy American goods because you paid billions to the corrupt federal government. |
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Quoted: Tarrif's are a necessary step in bringing back industry to the USA, but it's only one part. A concentrated program needs to be implemented so we can start producing goods here rather than buying them from china, View Quote No. If you want to bring back manufacturing, make it profitable to produce things in the US. There are many ways to do this, and most of them involve the government simply getting out of the way. |
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Tariffs have never worked.
If you want REAL economic warfare you need embargoes. No one in power will ever seriously suggest an embargo. |
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