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Posted: 1/10/2018 9:51:59 AM EST
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They will sell a ton.
But , they would sell a zillion of them if there is a SOLID mag well adapter system for G19,Sig226,S&W MP,BerettaM92,Uzi,Colt etc etc. Looking forward to this little item. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 10:32:26 AM EST
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Welp, the newness wore off for me and the impulse to buy went away, I'm gonna pick one up after Knob creek.
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Posted: 1/10/2018 3:30:11 PM EST
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They will sell a ton. But , they would sell a zillion of them if there is a SOLID mag well adapter system for G19,Sig226,S&W MP,BerettaM92,Uzi,Colt etc etc. Looking forward to this little item. The carbine already ships with an included Glock magazine adapter in addition to the SR9 one. So Glock owners are already covered without even having to buy anything extra. That was a smart move on Ruger's part. Glock mags are cheap, plentiful, and have lots of good aftermarket versions. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 3:33:21 PM EST
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MAC has one in hand apparently. @MilitaryArms hey buddy, do you want some arctic weather testing with that? 
Edit: Honestly, it looks a lot better in the real world instead of promo photos IMO. https://www.facebook.com/militaryarms/ 2018 is looking pretty bright given the down gun market since the election. Companies like Ruger are dropping some amazing new products like their new 9mm takedown Carbine. In the box you will find a takedown rifle very similar to the 10/22. It takes SR9 mags. It also includes a Glock magazine well adapter. It features a 1/2x28 threaded barrel and a 1913 rail machined into the receiver. It also has a last round hold open and adjustable length of pull stock. This is one cool rifle. Now if it shoots as good as it looks I think Ruger has a home run here. I can’t wait to get it to the range. My boys will love this gun and I can shorten the stock to accommodate them. I love the direct Ruger is going these days. I have one request to make this perfect - give me a 10mm version! ?? I love 9mm though so I’m quite content with it. https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/26173432_1795327133812411_7520490154307755011_o.jpg?oh=2e12c4b26542cd6ad467f0160e1e6f82&oe=5AED271C https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/26232204_1795327167145741_5263361166832335864_o.jpg?oh=dec013ce5014db19e8f21684be9380b2&oe=5AFC0168 https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/26173130_1795327213812403_481491050134565221_o.jpg?oh=389fd2e45115e772f81905e0d578efad&oe=5ABC5D32 https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/26173558_1795327250479066_5172356419577290330_o.jpg?oh=c05ba309ab2bef234ecfc0e9da026fd2&oe=5ABE11B4 |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 3:43:50 PM EST
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Kyguns showed in stick yesterday.
GrabaGun should have 1 left |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 6:35:44 PM EST
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Hey guys, I have a video releasing here very soon.
In a nut shell, the gun is pretty cool. The only thing I can really ding it on so far is that mildly loaded range ammo will not properly cycle the gun with the Glock mag well conversion and using Glock factory mags. I had no issues with ammo like 124gr American Eagle and Fiocchi 124gr. Non-Glock magazines like those from ETS or SGM caused some issues. The ETS mags, once fully loaded (the 30 rounders) would bulge too much to fit in the mag well properly, but you could force them in. The SGM's would have the occasional hiccup and the 50 SGM drum had some issues too. Glock mags and American Eagle or Fiocchi and the gun was good to go with no issues, at least my single copy of the gun is. Again, I have a sample set of one. I did talk to 22Plinkster who also has one and he too had issues with light range loads like Federal Syntech range ammo. For me it was Freedom range loads. With warmer loads his gun, like mine, worked without issue. It also looks modular so you can swap out a mag well, bolt face, barrel and have a new caliber. Ruger has made no mention of offering it in other calibers though, but the gun certainly looks capable of taking a conversion kit. |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 6:38:29 PM EST
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Hey guys, I have a video releasing here very soon. In a nut shell, the gun is pretty cool. The only thing I can really ding it on so far is that mildly loaded range ammo will not properly cycle the gun with the Glock mag well conversion and using Glock factory mags. I had no issues with ammo like 124gr American Eagle and Fiocchi 124gr. Non-Glock magazines like those from ETS or SGM caused some issues. The ETS mags, once fully loaded (the 30 rounders) would bulge too much to fit in the mag well properly, but you could force them in. The SGM's would have the occasional hiccup and the 50 SGM drum had some issues too. Glock mags and American Eagle or Fiocchi and the gun was good to go with no issues, at least my single copy of the gun is. Again, I have a sample set of one. I did talk to 22Plinkster who also has one and he too had issues with light range loads like Federal Syntech range ammo. For me it was Freedom range loads. With warmer loads his gun, like mine, worked without issue. It also looks modular so you can swap out a mag well, bolt face, barrel and have a new caliber. Ruger has made no mention of offering it in other calibers though, but the gun certainly looks capable of taking a conversion kit. |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 6:38:31 PM EST
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Hey guys, I have a video releasing here very soon. In a nut shell, the gun is pretty cool. The only thing I can really ding it on so far is that mildly loaded range ammo will not properly cycle the gun with the Glock mag well conversion and using Glock factory mags. I had no issues with ammo like 124gr American Eagle and Fiocchi 124gr. Non-Glock magazines like those from ETS or SGM caused some issues. The ETS mags, once fully loaded (the 30 rounders) would bulge too much to fit in the mag well properly, but you could force them in. The SGM's would have the occasional hiccup and the 50 SGM drum had some issues too. Glock mags and American Eagle or Fiocchi and the gun was good to go with no issues, at least my single copy of the gun is. Again, I have a sample set of one. I did talk to 22Plinkster who also has one and he too had issues with light range loads like Federal Syntech range ammo. For me it was Freedom range loads. With warmer loads his gun, like mine, worked without issue. It also looks modular so you can swap out a mag well, bolt face, barrel and have a new caliber. Ruger has made no mention of offering it in other calibers though, but the gun certainly looks capable of taking a conversion kit. |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 8:54:10 PM EST
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So you just admitted Freedom Munitions is shitty underloaded ammo. Thank you.  Freedom Munitions ammo - does it work well? If you have something against Freedom Munitions, don't use it. I have fired over 90,000 rounds of their ammo and guess what? I've had more problems with Winchester White Box than I've had with Freedom in my collection of all sorts of oddball firearms which is why I continue to use Freedom. If Freedom starts to regularly fail me, I'll move on to something else. I'm under no contract and I'm paid by no company to promote their ammo. With that said, every major manufacturer offers me ammo to use. I use Freedom because 1) it's worked great for me and 2) it's affordable. Lots of people complain about the price of ammo so I use affordable ammo in the vast majority of my videos. |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 9:13:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. Did you try any Magpul Glock mags? |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 9:34:03 PM EST
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When running it suppressed did it function
any more reliably with the lighter loads? And did you try any 147gr @ 850fps or anything similar to that? |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 9:37:59 PM EST
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Does a G26 mag fit in the magwell?
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Posted: 1/11/2018 10:25:40 PM EST
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When running it suppressed did it function any more reliably with the lighter loads? And did you try any 147gr @ 850fps or anything similar to that? |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 10:25:55 PM EST
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Does a G26 mag fit in the magwell? |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 10:42:53 PM EST
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I don't have one to try. I hate the mini-Glocks. Keep up the good work. And for Gods sake get a G26. |
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Posted: 1/11/2018 10:57:26 PM EST
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I don't have one to try. I hate the mini-Glocks. |
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Posted: 1/12/2018 5:26:16 PM EST
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The video is great, but I would love it if you’d try a G26 mag (both OEM and Magpul). You are in the gun business—surely you know someone who could hook you up! Unfortunately, Ilive down by Cincy and it’d be a hike for me. https://kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=128676 |
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Posted: 1/12/2018 5:40:20 PM EST
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Waiting for my LGS to get some @435-...
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Posted: 1/12/2018 6:28:43 PM EST
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Waiting for my LGS to get some @435-... |
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Posted: 1/12/2018 6:29:26 PM EST
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Just picked mine up, shoot tomorrow next to the Evo pistol
any questions or things you want a picture of? |
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Posted: 1/12/2018 6:39:38 PM EST
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Just picked mine up, shoot tomorrow next to the Evo pistol any questions or things you want a picture of?
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Posted: 1/12/2018 6:46:12 PM EST
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i'm all out of glitter. i must have mailed it off somehwere
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Posted: 1/12/2018 6:55:15 PM EST
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Posted: 1/12/2018 7:04:28 PM EST
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Ruger -
Please make one of these in .30 carbine and take M1 Carbine Magazines. Keep it under $500. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. |
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Posted: 1/12/2018 7:18:13 PM EST
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Ruger - Please make one of these in .30 carbine and take M1 Carbine Magazines. Keep it under $500. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. Obscure caliber and magazines for cheaper than the mass produced highly anticipated 9mm version Great idea
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Posted: 1/12/2018 7:30:59 PM EST
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Posted: 1/12/2018 7:32:25 PM EST
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Ruger - Please make one of these in .30 carbine and take M1 Carbine Magazines. Keep it under $500. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. Fulton Armory makes a seemingly nice M1 Carbine. I'm hoping to get one eventually. I know the current crop of reproductions aren't fairing very well in the reviews I've seen, so I've held off on buying one. |
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Posted: 1/12/2018 7:43:01 PM EST
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Just picked mine up, shoot tomorrow next to the Evo pistol any questions or things you want a picture of? |
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Posted: 1/12/2018 7:54:07 PM EST
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Please hip fire it and tell me if you encounter problems. I know, it's a strange request, but I discovered mine has malfunctions if I don't properly shoulder it. This discovery came after filming and will have to be noted in a follow-up video. I'm currently disputing the demonetization with YouTube and won't release the current video until I have that resolved. I noted with mine that 1) it likes factory Glock magazines best and 2) some mildly loaded range ammo may not fully cycle the action. I had zero issues with Fiocchi 124's, ZQI 115gr hollow points, and Federal American Eagle 124's using OEM Glock mags, aside from the newly discovered issue of mine not reliably functioning when fired from the hip. Not sure what ammo I've got, but i know several different flavors. |
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Posted: 1/12/2018 11:26:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please hip fire it and tell me if you encounter problems. I know, it's a strange request, but I discovered mine has malfunctions if I don't properly shoulder it. This discovery came after filming and will have to be noted in a follow-up video. I'm currently disputing the demonetization with YouTube and won't release the current video until I have that resolved. I noted with mine that 1) it likes factory Glock magazines best and 2) some mildly loaded range ammo may not fully cycle the action. I had zero issues with Fiocchi 124's, ZQI 115gr hollow points, and Federal American Eagle 124's using OEM Glock mags, aside from the newly discovered issue of mine not reliably functioning when fired from the hip. |
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Posted: 1/12/2018 11:57:01 PM EST
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Posted: 1/13/2018 12:00:52 AM EST
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I'm wondering what effect a extended barrel will have on traditional 9mm defensive loadings, as we know most loadings are optimized to perform within a certain velocity range, I wonder if it would be necessary to run a bonded, or similar bullet to allay concerns of non-bonded bullets breaking up or under penetrating with the added velocity?
Or does 9mm burn so quick that it never reaches maximum velocity, which leads to the possibility of development of specially "carbine/subgun" loads with modern projectiles to take advantage of the longer barrel? Don't matter I want at least one (maybe 2) of these, awaiting MAC's video. |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 12:10:46 AM EST
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I'm wondering what effect a extended barrel will have on traditional 9mm defensive loadings, as we know most loadings are optimized to perform within a certain velocity range, I wonder if it would be necessary to run a bonded, or similar bullet to allay concerns of non-bonded bullets breaking up or under penetrating with the added velocity? Or does 9mm burn so quick that it never reaches maximum velocity, which leads to the possibility of development of specially "carbine/subgun" loads with modern projectiles to take advantage of the longer barrel? Don't matter I want at least one (maybe 2) of these, awaiting MAC's video. But it doesn't seem that it is enough to cause bullet failure. A lot of the modern defensive loads are made to be somewhat velocity-blind. |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 12:19:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm wondering what effect a extended barrel will have on traditional 9mm defensive loadings, as we know most loadings are optimized to perform within a certain velocity range, I wonder if it would be necessary to run a bonded, or similar bullet to allay concerns of non-bonded bullets breaking up or under penetrating with the added velocity?
Or does 9mm burn so quick that it never reaches maximum velocity, which leads to the possibility of development of specially "carbine/subgun" loads with modern projectiles to take advantage of the longer barrel? Don't matter I want at least one (maybe 2) of these, awaiting MAC's video. |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 12:31:30 AM EST
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That's been an unaddressed issue in PCC's for some time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I'm wondering what effect a extended barrel will have on traditional 9mm defensive loadings, as we know most loadings are optimized to perform within a certain velocity range, I wonder if it would be necessary to run a bonded, or similar bullet to allay concerns of non-bonded bullets breaking up or under penetrating with the added velocity?
Or does 9mm burn so quick that it never reaches maximum velocity, which leads to the possibility of development of specially "carbine/subgun" loads with modern projectiles to take advantage of the longer barrel? Don't matter I want at least one (maybe 2) of these, awaiting MAC's video. It seems to work better in a Carbine than it does in a pistol. ETA: I of course, shoot 147 HST in my pistols, and it seems fine in the longer barrels, but I have some Critical Duty left from when that was all that was available (along with the 9BP/LE) so I use it as cheap insurance, and I already have some. |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 12:54:13 AM EST
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Keep in mind that loads optimized for long barrels might mess with a blowback gun. I never read up but I feel like I remember people having trouble with some hot loads in blowback guns.
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Posted: 1/13/2018 11:19:50 AM EST
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@MilitaryArms
Shot a few hundred rounds. All through G19 mags as that's all I have right now. Winchester white box 115 gr. PMC Bronze 115 gr Prvi Partizan 158 gr Hornady critical defense 135 gr Federal hydrashok 124 gr Speer Gold dot 124 gr No issues at all. I shot a mixture of suppressed and unsuppressed. Hip firing worked fine. Bump fires quite easily. Shot side by side with the CZ Scorpion pistol. I'll clean and sell the CZ. |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 2:04:06 PM EST
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LOL Obscure caliber and magazines for cheaper than the mass produced highly anticipated 9mm version Great idea
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Posted: 1/13/2018 2:30:07 PM EST
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@MilitaryArms Shot a few hundred rounds. All through G19 mags as that's all I have right now. Winchester white box 115 gr. PMC Bronze 115 gr Prvi Partizan 158 gr Hornady critical defense 135 gr Federal hydrashok 124 gr Speer Gold dot 124 gr No issues at all. I shot a mixture of suppressed and unsuppressed. Hip firing worked fine. Bump fires quite easily. Shot side by side with the CZ Scorpion pistol. I'll clean and sell the CZ. 
Since that was the PCC I was looking at getting in the future, this is an interesting statement. Would you care to elaborate on the comparison between the two? |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 2:43:58 PM EST
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Since that was the PCC I was looking at getting in the future, this is an interesting statement. Would you care to elaborate on the comparison between the two? For me, the Ruger just felt and shot better, which surprised me. |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 2:52:05 PM EST
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MSRP? |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 2:54:17 PM EST
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Posted: 1/13/2018 2:54:24 PM EST
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Being heavier the recoil is better managed, shared mags with my G19, slimmer mags without a bulge at the end, I like the iron sights on the Ruger better. Same type, but the rear aperture being further away suits me better. For me, the Ruger just felt and shot better, which surprised me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since that was the PCC I was looking at getting in the future, this is an interesting statement. Would you care to elaborate on the comparison between the two? For me, the Ruger just felt and shot better, which surprised me. with the takedown system it isn't a significantly bigger size to transport, either |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 3:25:32 PM EST
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thanks, that's good to know with the takedown system it isn't a significantly bigger size to transport, either I'm anxiously awaiting Magpul to release one similar to X-22 
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Posted: 1/13/2018 3:27:02 PM EST
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After watching Full30s review on FB the other day this thing really does look interesting.
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Posted: 1/13/2018 3:30:14 PM EST
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as it shipped, the longer part is 20.5". It comes with 4 total .25" plates for LOP adjustment, 2 of which are installed. I'm anxiously awaiting Magpul to release one similar to X-22 https://www.magpul.com/Files/Files/Images/Products/ButtStocks/MAG808/Single/MAG808-rifle-4.png?format=jpg&width=950&height=450 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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thanks, that's good to know with the takedown system it isn't a significantly bigger size to transport, either I'm anxiously awaiting Magpul to release one similar to X-22 https://www.magpul.com/Files/Files/Images/Products/ButtStocks/MAG808/Single/MAG808-rifle-4.png?format=jpg&width=950&height=450 |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 4:22:21 PM EST
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Missed it by 1 millimeter. 
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Posted: 1/13/2018 7:02:45 PM EST
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I can dream can't I??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL Obscure caliber and magazines for cheaper than the mass produced highly anticipated 9mm version Great idea |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 7:13:54 PM EST
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That's why I asked earlier in this thread if magwell adapters could be 3D printed, or if they need to be harder than plastic materials. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL Obscure caliber and magazines for cheaper than the mass produced highly anticipated 9mm version Great idea |
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Posted: 1/13/2018 7:46:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could probably make one on a 3d printer, but you'd probably either have to really beef it up or have room for inserts to make it stronger. From the photos, it looks like the magwells are some kind of fiberfill nylon, probably GFN 6-6 or similar. Mind you, I'm not an engineer so grain of salt and all on my post. The Ruger insert has several metal components, with the ejector being molded in. There is also a transfer bar for the bolt hold open, and a spring loaded pawl for something on the front, no idea what it's for. So, could you 3D print the entire thing? Not if you want it to last more than a few rounds @NorthPolar |
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